America’s Founders Were Deeply Religious

[Taz]

That refers to the Judeo-Christian faith. Compare this fact with the elites of the major political party today, and the schools they oversee, teaching quite the reverse.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



Last week Att’y Gen William Barr gave a speech about the importance of having a religious America. And, of course, he was attacked for it.


1.“United States Attorney General William Barr spoke at Notre Dame Law School [enemies of religion] raced to warn us of our impending doom. Also as per usual, in their screeds were seeds of the very things Barr described.

…RefuseFascism.org, which proclaimed in a headline, “At Notre Dame, William Barr Lays Out a Christian Fascist Nightmare.”

…writer Joan Walsh described Barr as "a paranoid right-wing Catholic ideologue who won't respect the separation of church and state." She mocked the Catholic men's service group Knights of Columbus (of which Barr has been a member) as "a patriarchal cosplay group." Walsh's distaste for Catholicism is matched only by her evident loathing of evangelicals. She writes: "(I)t's worth noting that Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney were all also raised Catholic -- but Pence and Pompeo went one better than Barr and joined the official GOP denomination, White Evangelical Protestantism ... I couldn't wish these guys better company to spend time with in hell.

“From the Founding Era onward, there was strong consensus about the centrality of religious liberty in the United States.

The imperative of protecting religious freedom was not just a nod in the direction of piety. It reflects the Framers’ belief that religion was indispensable to sustaining our free system of government.

In his renowned 1785 pamphlet, “Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments,” James Madison described religious liberty as “a right towards men” but “a duty towards the Creator,” and a “duty….precedent both in order of time and degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society.



How does religion promote the moral discipline and virtue needed to support free government?

First, it gives us the right rules to live by. The Founding generation were Christians. They believed that the Judeo-Christian moral system corresponds to the true nature of man. Those moral precepts start with the two great commandments – to Love God with your whole heart, soul, and mind; and to Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself.”
America’s great experiment with freedom needs religion
A Moral Citizenry Is Not a Theocracy



Faith is inseparable from liberty and freedom.

Rabid anti-religion bigots attacked Barr....hoping that all of America renounce the views of our Founders, that which made our nation the shining city on the hill.

If you agree with Barr about the relationship between religion and liberty, you cannot, of course, vote Democrat.

They were so religious they owned slaves.

And told a great story about how everyone was/is equal..and free....and only they could vote...

Context is everything in history.

So is propaganda and the rhetorical art of getting dumbshitz believe in the lies perpetuated to get them to kill for yous and the organization.

You mean like the propaganda that slavery in America was a British institution?

You don't want to have this conversation cause it'll just show how ignorant you really are about this subject.

I'd be surprised if you could back anything up.

 

[ding]

That refers to the Judeo-Christian faith. Compare this fact with the elites of the major political party today, and the schools they oversee, teaching quite the reverse.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



Last week Att’y Gen William Barr gave a speech about the importance of having a religious America. And, of course, he was attacked for it.


1.“United States Attorney General William Barr spoke at Notre Dame Law School [enemies of religion] raced to warn us of our impending doom. Also as per usual, in their screeds were seeds of the very things Barr described.

…RefuseFascism.org, which proclaimed in a headline, “At Notre Dame, William Barr Lays Out a Christian Fascist Nightmare.”

…writer Joan Walsh described Barr as "a paranoid right-wing Catholic ideologue who won't respect the separation of church and state." She mocked the Catholic men's service group Knights of Columbus (of which Barr has been a member) as "a patriarchal cosplay group." Walsh's distaste for Catholicism is matched only by her evident loathing of evangelicals. She writes: "(I)t's worth noting that Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney were all also raised Catholic -- but Pence and Pompeo went one better than Barr and joined the official GOP denomination, White Evangelical Protestantism ... I couldn't wish these guys better company to spend time with in hell.

“From the Founding Era onward, there was strong consensus about the centrality of religious liberty in the United States.

The imperative of protecting religious freedom was not just a nod in the direction of piety. It reflects the Framers’ belief that religion was indispensable to sustaining our free system of government.

In his renowned 1785 pamphlet, “Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments,” James Madison described religious liberty as “a right towards men” but “a duty towards the Creator,” and a “duty….precedent both in order of time and degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society.



How does religion promote the moral discipline and virtue needed to support free government?

First, it gives us the right rules to live by. The Founding generation were Christians. They believed that the Judeo-Christian moral system corresponds to the true nature of man. Those moral precepts start with the two great commandments – to Love God with your whole heart, soul, and mind; and to Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself.”
America’s great experiment with freedom needs religion
A Moral Citizenry Is Not a Theocracy



Faith is inseparable from liberty and freedom.

Rabid anti-religion bigots attacked Barr....hoping that all of America renounce the views of our Founders, that which made our nation the shining city on the hill.

If you agree with Barr about the relationship between religion and liberty, you cannot, of course, vote Democrat.

They were so religious they owned slaves.

And told a great story about how everyone was/is equal..and free....and only they could vote...

Context is everything in history.

So is propaganda and the rhetorical art of getting dumbshitz believe in the lies perpetuated to get them to kill for yous and the organization.

You mean like the propaganda that slavery in America was a British institution?

You don't want to have this conversation cause it'll just show how ignorant you really are about this subject.

No, that the US has always existed under the pretext that it is not what it advertises.

Give me a break. There were those who opposed it from the beginning. You only see what pleases you.

 

[ding]

That refers to the Judeo-Christian faith. Compare this fact with the elites of the major political party today, and the schools they oversee, teaching quite the reverse.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



Last week Att’y Gen William Barr gave a speech about the importance of having a religious America. And, of course, he was attacked for it.


1.“United States Attorney General William Barr spoke at Notre Dame Law School [enemies of religion] raced to warn us of our impending doom. Also as per usual, in their screeds were seeds of the very things Barr described.

…RefuseFascism.org, which proclaimed in a headline, “At Notre Dame, William Barr Lays Out a Christian Fascist Nightmare.”

…writer Joan Walsh described Barr as "a paranoid right-wing Catholic ideologue who won't respect the separation of church and state." She mocked the Catholic men's service group Knights of Columbus (of which Barr has been a member) as "a patriarchal cosplay group." Walsh's distaste for Catholicism is matched only by her evident loathing of evangelicals. She writes: "(I)t's worth noting that Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney were all also raised Catholic -- but Pence and Pompeo went one better than Barr and joined the official GOP denomination, White Evangelical Protestantism ... I couldn't wish these guys better company to spend time with in hell.

“From the Founding Era onward, there was strong consensus about the centrality of religious liberty in the United States.

The imperative of protecting religious freedom was not just a nod in the direction of piety. It reflects the Framers’ belief that religion was indispensable to sustaining our free system of government.

In his renowned 1785 pamphlet, “Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments,” James Madison described religious liberty as “a right towards men” but “a duty towards the Creator,” and a “duty….precedent both in order of time and degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society.



How does religion promote the moral discipline and virtue needed to support free government?

First, it gives us the right rules to live by. The Founding generation were Christians. They believed that the Judeo-Christian moral system corresponds to the true nature of man. Those moral precepts start with the two great commandments – to Love God with your whole heart, soul, and mind; and to Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself.”
America’s great experiment with freedom needs religion
A Moral Citizenry Is Not a Theocracy



Faith is inseparable from liberty and freedom.

Rabid anti-religion bigots attacked Barr....hoping that all of America renounce the views of our Founders, that which made our nation the shining city on the hill.

If you agree with Barr about the relationship between religion and liberty, you cannot, of course, vote Democrat.

They were so religious they owned slaves.

And told a great story about how everyone was/is equal..and free....and only they could vote...

Context is everything in history.

So is propaganda and the rhetorical art of getting dumbshitz believe in the lies perpetuated to get them to kill for yous and the organization.

You mean like the propaganda that slavery in America was a British institution?

You don't want to have this conversation cause it'll just show how ignorant you really are about this subject.

I'd be surprised if you could back anything up.

Come at me, bro.

 

[ding]

This is gonna be fun.

 

[abu afak]

They were so religious they owned slaves.

Probably not too bright to Bump this nearly Year OLD thread up just to say that.
But thread now being where it is... 'Original intent' was, we can be sure, was that they were not included in second amendment rights.
That would have been unthinkable to them.
And with that original intent still in effect. Murders (and robbery) would be down 50% nationwide, shootings probably 70%.

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[$ecular#eckler]

(You should try to learn how to use the editing tools provided by the forum editor.0

Here is the true quote from article seven of the US Constitution.
done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,
...give your alternate explanation for the reference to 'our Lord.'

The reference to "our Lord," is to comply with standard document dating technique of the era. Notice their intention to change the standard to recognize the founding of America as the new standard for the year count - they did this to several later documents, as well. I cannot recall which ones.

 

[PoliticalChic]

(You should try to learn how to use the editing tools provided by the forum editor.0

Here is the true quote from article seven of the US Constitution.
done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,
...give your alternate explanation for the reference to 'our Lord.'

The reference to "our Lord," is to comply with standard document dating technique of the era. Notice their intention to change the standard to recognize the founding of America as the new standard for the year count - they did this to several later documents, as well. I cannot recall which ones.

My statement was that the reference appears in the Constituiton.

You have needlessly verified what I wrote.


For further edification:

"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth....

Did you catch it? Their work was done “in the Year of our Lord.” The Christian world dates all of human history in terms of the birth of Christ. “B.C.” means “before Christ,” and “A.D.” is the abbreviation for the Latin words “anno Domini,” meaning “year of our Lord.” If the Framers were interested in being pluralistic, multi-cultural, and politically correct, they would have refrained from using the B.C./A.D. designation. Or they would have used the religionless designations “C.E.,” Common Era, and “B.C.E.,” Before the Common Era (see “Common Era,” 2008). In so doing, they would have avoided offending Jews, atheists, agnostics, and humanists. Or they could have used “A.H.” (anno hegirae—which means “in the year of the Hijrah” and refers to Muhammad’s flight from Mecca in A.D. 622), the date used by Muslims as the commencement date for the Islamic calendar. Instead, the Framers chose to utilize the dating method that indicated the worldview they shared. What’s more, their reference to “our Lord” does not refer to a generic deity, nor does it refer even to God the Father. It refers to God the Son—an explicit reference to Jesus Christ. Make no mistake: the Constitution of the United States contains an explicit reference to Jesus Christ—not Allah, Buddha, Muhammad, nor the gods of Hindus or Native Americans!

Let’s get this straight: The Declaration of Independence contains four allusions to the God of the Bible. The U.S. Constitution contains allusions to the freedom to practice the Christian religion unimpeded, the significance and priority of Sunday worship, as well as the place of Jesus Christ in history. "

Christianity is in the Constitution - Apologetics Press

Those who insist that America was not intended to be a “Christian nation” point to the obvious absence of specific directives regarding Christianity in the federal Constitution. The popular propaganda since the 1960s has been that “the irreligious Framers did not want the nation to retain any...

www.apologeticspress.org

 

[danielpalos]

This is how seriously we can take the right wing regarding morals and morality:

 

[Hollie]

(You should try to learn how to use the editing tools provided by the forum editor.0

Here is the true quote from article seven of the US Constitution.
done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,
...give your alternate explanation for the reference to 'our Lord.'

The reference to "our Lord," is to comply with standard document dating technique of the era. Notice their intention to change the standard to recognize the founding of America as the new standard for the year count - they did this to several later documents, as well. I cannot recall which ones.

My statement was that the reference appears in the Constituiton.

You have needlessly verified what I wrote.


For further edification:

"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth....

Did you catch it? Their work was done “in the Year of our Lord.” The Christian world dates all of human history in terms of the birth of Christ. “B.C.” means “before Christ,” and “A.D.” is the abbreviation for the Latin words “anno Domini,” meaning “year of our Lord.” If the Framers were interested in being pluralistic, multi-cultural, and politically correct, they would have refrained from using the B.C./A.D. designation. Or they would have used the religionless designations “C.E.,” Common Era, and “B.C.E.,” Before the Common Era (see “Common Era,” 2008). In so doing, they would have avoided offending Jews, atheists, agnostics, and humanists. Or they could have used “A.H.” (anno hegirae—which means “in the year of the Hijrah” and refers to Muhammad’s flight from Mecca in A.D. 622), the date used by Muslims as the commencement date for the Islamic calendar. Instead, the Framers chose to utilize the dating method that indicated the worldview they shared. What’s more, their reference to “our Lord” does not refer to a generic deity, nor does it refer even to God the Father. It refers to God the Son—an explicit reference to Jesus Christ. Make no mistake: the Constitution of the United States contains an explicit reference to Jesus Christ—not Allah, Buddha, Muhammad, nor the gods of Hindus or Native Americans!

Let’s get this straight: The Declaration of Independence contains four allusions to the God of the Bible. The U.S. Constitution contains allusions to the freedom to practice the Christian religion unimpeded, the significance and priority of Sunday worship, as well as the place of Jesus Christ in history. "

Christianity is in the Constitution - Apologetics Press

Those who insist that America was not intended to be a “Christian nation” point to the obvious absence of specific directives regarding Christianity in the federal Constitution. The popular propaganda since the 1960s has been that “the irreligious Framers did not want the nation to retain any...

www.apologeticspress.org

Yes, let’s get this straight for the hyper-religious loons. The Constitution is very secular in nature. Not one mention of Christianity. In fact, no mention or reference to any of your gods in the body of the Constitution. Hyper-religious loons like to surprise the “our lord” reference but of course, that’s nonsense. A closing salutation of “in the year of our lord” was common for the time. The fact remains, nowhere in the Constitution is there any mention of the Christian gods.

What is the ‘Year of our Lord’ doing on diplomas, government documents, and the Constitution?

'Year of our Lord' is a religious relic that has been mostly discarded. This anachronistic dating convention is reported to FFRF from time to time as a violation that disgraces

ffrf.org

As it turns out, the closing salutation you insist was a reference to the christian gods was not intended to be a part of the Constitution.

From the link:

The "Year of our Lord" language is not actually even part of the Constitution itself, which ends at Article VII. The phrase was not debated or ratified by the Constitutional Convention and it seems unlikely that it was even approved by the delegates. In all likelihood, it was a formalism unthinkingly added by the Constitution's scribe, Jacob Shallus. Perhaps most importantly, the language was not viewed as having any religious significance at the time. In short, the "Year of our Lord" phrase appended to the Constitution has no real legal or historical value


Actually, the Founding Fathers knew that separating religion from government was in the best interest of the governed. That is why they crafted a Constitution that was secular in words and intent.

The Declaration of Independence is a stirring document and it’s importance to the theme of this nation is noted. However, it remains (I believe undeniable), that the DOI is not a legal document with respect to the laws of the United States. It is the Constitution that establishes the legal framework of the country.

 

[Likkmee]

Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope

Like good Christians some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands, to court the wild
But she just patiently smiled, and bore them a child
To be their spirit, and guiding light

 

[Ben Thomson]

That refers to the Judeo-Christian faith. Compare this fact with the elites of the major political party today, and the schools they oversee, teaching quite the reverse.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



Last week Att’y Gen William Barr gave a speech about the importance of having a religious America. And, of course, he was attacked for it.


1.“United States Attorney General William Barr spoke at Notre Dame Law School [enemies of religion] raced to warn us of our impending doom. Also as per usual, in their screeds were seeds of the very things Barr described.

…RefuseFascism.org, which proclaimed in a headline, “At Notre Dame, William Barr Lays Out a Christian Fascist Nightmare.”

…writer Joan Walsh described Barr as "a paranoid right-wing Catholic ideologue who won't respect the separation of church and state." She mocked the Catholic men's service group Knights of Columbus (of which Barr has been a member) as "a patriarchal cosplay group." Walsh's distaste for Catholicism is matched only by her evident loathing of evangelicals. She writes: "(I)t's worth noting that Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney were all also raised Catholic -- but Pence and Pompeo went one better than Barr and joined the official GOP denomination, White Evangelical Protestantism ... I couldn't wish these guys better company to spend time with in hell.

“From the Founding Era onward, there was strong consensus about the centrality of religious liberty in the United States.

The imperative of protecting religious freedom was not just a nod in the direction of piety. It reflects the Framers’ belief that religion was indispensable to sustaining our free system of government.

In his renowned 1785 pamphlet, “Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments,” James Madison described religious liberty as “a right towards men” but “a duty towards the Creator,” and a “duty….precedent both in order of time and degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society.



How does religion promote the moral discipline and virtue needed to support free government?

First, it gives us the right rules to live by. The Founding generation were Christians. They believed that the Judeo-Christian moral system corresponds to the true nature of man. Those moral precepts start with the two great commandments – to Love God with your whole heart, soul, and mind; and to Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself.”
America’s great experiment with freedom needs religion
A Moral Citizenry Is Not a Theocracy



Faith is inseparable from liberty and freedom.

Rabid anti-religion bigots attacked Barr....hoping that all of America renounce the views of our Founders, that which made our nation the shining city on the hill.

If you agree with Barr about the relationship between religion and liberty, you cannot, of course, vote Democrat.

So deeply religious they put it in the Constitution that the government would not be allowed to promote any religion.

 

[anynameyouwish]

That refers to the Judeo-Christian faith. Compare this fact with the elites of the major political party today, and the schools they oversee, teaching quite the reverse.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



Last week Att’y Gen William Barr gave a speech about the importance of having a religious America. And, of course, he was attacked for it.


1.“United States Attorney General William Barr spoke at Notre Dame Law School [enemies of religion] raced to warn us of our impending doom. Also as per usual, in their screeds were seeds of the very things Barr described.

…RefuseFascism.org, which proclaimed in a headline, “At Notre Dame, William Barr Lays Out a Christian Fascist Nightmare.”

…writer Joan Walsh described Barr as "a paranoid right-wing Catholic ideologue who won't respect the separation of church and state." She mocked the Catholic men's service group Knights of Columbus (of which Barr has been a member) as "a patriarchal cosplay group." Walsh's distaste for Catholicism is matched only by her evident loathing of evangelicals. She writes: "(I)t's worth noting that Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney were all also raised Catholic -- but Pence and Pompeo went one better than Barr and joined the official GOP denomination, White Evangelical Protestantism ... I couldn't wish these guys better company to spend time with in hell.

“From the Founding Era onward, there was strong consensus about the centrality of religious liberty in the United States.

The imperative of protecting religious freedom was not just a nod in the direction of piety. It reflects the Framers’ belief that religion was indispensable to sustaining our free system of government.

In his renowned 1785 pamphlet, “Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments,” James Madison described religious liberty as “a right towards men” but “a duty towards the Creator,” and a “duty….precedent both in order of time and degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society.



How does religion promote the moral discipline and virtue needed to support free government?

First, it gives us the right rules to live by. The Founding generation were Christians. They believed that the Judeo-Christian moral system corresponds to the true nature of man. Those moral precepts start with the two great commandments – to Love God with your whole heart, soul, and mind; and to Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself.”
America’s great experiment with freedom needs religion
A Moral Citizenry Is Not a Theocracy



Faith is inseparable from liberty and freedom.

Rabid anti-religion bigots attacked Barr....hoping that all of America renounce the views of our Founders, that which made our nation the shining city on the hill.

If you agree with Barr about the relationship between religion and liberty, you cannot, of course, vote Democrat.

another attempt to take away my rights?


ALL Americans have freedom of religion

that means they have every right to have NO religion

that means YOU do NOT get to FORCE PEOPLE to be christians

or to be subject to idiotic christian morals as law

you stinking christian fascist

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Yes, let’s get this straight for the hyper-religious loons. The Constitution is very secular in nature. Not one mention of Christianity. In fact, no mention or reference to any of your gods in the body of the Constitution. Hyper-religious loons like to surprise the “our lord” reference but of course, that’s nonsense. A closing salutation of “in the year of our lord” was common for the time. The fact remains, nowhere in the Constitution is there any mention of the Christian gods.

Go easy, because I can easily prove that your reverence for the almighty United States Constitution is flawed in dogma.

I agree that the founders were not so deeply religious that they crafted the Constitution in a manner consistent with the opening poster's implied intention, but for you to call the religious people "loons," leaves you to prove that you are not a loon, as well.

Why are you not advocating, or campaigning, for a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people that the founders, and subsequent generations could not gather? Do you sincerely believe that the Constitution (three-part separation theory) for organizing multi-state republic government and deliberating social issues is adequate, and cannot be improved?

have you not recognized that we are encountering a lot of differing interpretations of sections of the constitution(s)? Don't you think it is a little odd that there is a tolerance for differing interpretations and that it is instituted as a function of the Supreme Court that lacks state representation???

Your belief in the Constitution is dogma, because it is a fucked-up system that cannot be replicated in any fashion anywhere in the world or the United States - no state has a constitution that replicates the federal constitution.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

another attempt to take away my rights?
ALL Americans have freedom of religion
that means they have every right to have NO religion

That might not be true - it is up to the states to decide what is a religion, and if is it necessary for citizenship.

you stinking christian fascist

You get this through your fucking head right now. The three-part separation theory for organizing government is improperly deployed. It is a valid theory, but it is not properly deployed in any government charter, and I am the only atheist who figured that out. Your inability to figure that out is dogma - you believe that there is something to be admired about the constitution that is ultimately flawed - the proper administration of social justice. Very, very, similar to religion.

 

[Clipper]

Fallwell is a good example of what happens to so called religioius zealous with cash & time to spare. You pull your pud as the old lady gets plowed by a poolboy. And we're supposed to follow creeps like Fallwell into hell? No thanks.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

So deeply religious they put it in the Constitution that the government would not be allowed to promote any religion.

No. Only the Congress was forbidden from making a law promoting a religion.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Fallwell is a good example of what happens to so called religioius zealous with cash & time to spare. You pull your pud as the old lady gets plowed by a poolboy. And we're supposed to follow creeps like Fallwell into hell? No thanks.

It is not just the "religious," who get fooled. You lame brained libritards trust the demented Democrats to no end.

 

[Clipper]

Fallwell is a good example of what happens to so called religioius zealous with cash & time to spare. You pull your pud as the old lady gets plowed by a poolboy. And we're supposed to follow creeps like Fallwell into hell? No thanks.

It is not just the "religious," who get fooled. You lame brained libritards trust the demented Democrats to no end.

Did Trump get fooled? Or did he know Fallwell was playing switch off as the poolboy laid pipe into the missus?

 

[Hollie]

Yes, let’s get this straight for the hyper-religious loons. The Constitution is very secular in nature. Not one mention of Christianity. In fact, no mention or reference to any of your gods in the body of the Constitution. Hyper-religious loons like to surprise the “our lord” reference but of course, that’s nonsense. A closing salutation of “in the year of our lord” was common for the time. The fact remains, nowhere in the Constitution is there any mention of the Christian gods.

Go easy, because I can easily prove that your reverence for the almighty United States Constitution is flawed in dogma.

I agree that the founders were not so deeply religious that they crafted the Constitution in a manner consistent with the opening poster's implied intention, but for you to call the religious people "loons," leaves you to prove that you are not a loon, as well.

Why are you not advocating, or campaigning, for a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people that the founders, and subsequent generations could not gather? Do you sincerely believe that the Constitution (three-part separation theory) for organizing multi-state republic government and deliberating social issues is adequate, and cannot be improved?

have you not recognized that we are encountering a lot of differing interpretations of sections of the constitution(s)? Don't you think it is a little odd that there is a tolerance for differing interpretations and that it is instituted as a function of the Supreme Court that lacks state representation???

Your belief in the Constitution is dogma, because it is a fucked-up system that cannot be replicated in any fashion anywhere in the world or the United States - no state has a constitution that replicates the federal constitution.

You posted a lot of flawed assumptions. My comments were specifically directed at the hyper-religious loon, the OP, who insists on forcing her gods into the Constitution. What is asserted by angry, hyper-religious is that the Nation was founded exclusively under Judeo-Christian beliefs, and that is patently false. At the outset, neither liberty, pursuit of happiness, democracy, or republicanism had anything to do with Judeo-Christianity, which would instill theocracies (and as such are by definition dictatorships).

I have no need fir any ''belief'' in the Constitution. I can read what the authors wrote.

 

[Hollie]

So deeply religious they put it in the Constitution that the government would not be allowed to promote any religion.

No. Only the Congress was forbidden from making a law promoting a religion.

You may have missed it but that's kinda' what congress does, you know, make laws.