And Israel is an apartheid state

[Billo_Really]

Why then call up Flo's Bar and have them send the schizoid over to the bar you frequent. This way you and the schizoid can have a nice tete a tete while sitting on the bar stools and can blame Israel and the Jews for everything wrong in the world.

You've been watching a little too much Walker, Texas Ranger, because people don't talk politics in bars, they talk sports.

 

[Roudy]

My husband was born in a CLASSICALLY shariah society-

Not if he was born in Yemen he wasn't. Yemen is an extreme society, and always has been.

I'd go further and say that there can be no such thing as a "classical" Shariah society because only five countries utilise it as the basis of law. If we were to choose the kind of 'medium' incarnation it might be something like Jordan.

There ya go, talking out of URANUS again:

Countries where Sharia applies in personal status issues (such as marriage, divorce, inheritance, and child custody), but otherwise have a secular legal system. Many predominantly Muslim countries have not adopted hudud penalties in their criminal justice systems.[158]
Nationwide application
Algeria: article 222 of the Family Code of 1984 specifies sharia as the residuary source of laws.[170] In criminal cases the testimony of two women are equal to the testimony of one male witness.[171]
Bahrain: civil courts have jurisdiction over cases related to civil, commercial, and criminal matters, while Sharia courts adjudicate disputes over personal status issues, including marriage, divorce, child custody, and inheritance.[172] A personal status law was adopted in 2009 to regulate matters such as marriage, divorce, child custody and inheritance. It applies only to Sunni Muslims; there is no codified personal status law for Shiites. Before a Shari’a court a woman's testimony is worth half of that of a man.[173]
Bangladesh: the Muslim Personal Law (Shariat) Application Act, 1937 (XXVI of 1937) applies to Muslims in all matters relating to Family Affairs.[174] Islamic family law is applied through the regular court system.[175] There are no limitations on interfaith marriages.[176]
Brunei: Sharia courts decide personal status cases or cases relating to religious offences.[177] Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah declared in 2011 his wish to establish Islamic criminal law as soon as possible.[178]
Comoros: the legal system is based on Sharia.[179] According to the article 229-7 of the Penal Code, any Muslim who makes use of products forbidden by Islamic law can be punished by imprisonment of up to six months.[180]
Djibouti: the Family Code is mainly derived from Islamic law and regulates personal status matters such as marriage, divorce, child custody and inheritance.[181]
Egypt: Islamic jurisprudence is the principal source of legislation. Sharia courts and qadis are run and licensed by the Ministry of Justice.[182] The personal status law that regulates matters such as marriage, divorce and child custody is governed by Sharia. In a family court, a woman’s testimony is worth half of a man’s testimony.[183]
Eritrea: sharia courts entertain cases dealing with marriage, inheritance and family of Muslims.[184]
Ethiopia: sharia courts have jurisdiction on cases regaring marriage, divorce, maintenance, guardianship of minors (only if both parties are Muslims). Also included are cases concerning waqfs, gifts, succession, or wills, provided that donor is a Muslim or deceased was a Muslim at time of death.[185]
Gambia: article 7 of the constitution identifies sharia as source of law in matters of personal status and inheritance among members of communities to which it applies.[186]
Gaza Strip: the Egyptian personal status law of 1954 is applied. The personal status law is based on Islamic law and regulates matters related to inheritance, marriage, divorce and child custody. Shari’a courts hear cases related to personal status. The testimony of a woman is worth only half of that of a man in cases related to marriage, divorce and child custody.[187]
Ghana: Islamic law is applied by customary or traditional courts as part of customary law.[188]
India: the Muslim Personal Law (Shariat) Application Act 1937 directs the application of Muslim Personal Law to Muslims in a number of different areas, mainly related to family law.[189]
Israel: Islamic law is binding on personal law issues for Muslim citizens.[190]
Jordan: the Family Law in force is the Personal Status Law of 1976.[191] Sharia Courts have jurisdiction over personal status matters relating to Muslims.[192] In sharia courts the testimony of two women is equal to that of one man.[193]
Kenya: Islamic law is applied by Kadhis' Courts where "all the parties profess the Muslim religion".[194] Under article 170, section 5 of the constitution, the jurisdiction of Kadhis’ court is limited to matters relating to "personal status, marriage, divorce or inheritance in proceedings in which all the parties profess the Muslim religion and submit to the jurisdiction of the Kadhi’s courts".[195]
Kuwait: sharia is the main source of legislation[196] Kuwaiti courts are competent to hear all disputes concerning personal status, and civil, criminal and commercial matters. For the application of personal status laws, there are three separate sections: Sunni, Shia and non-Muslim.[197] The personal status law is based on the Maliki school of Sunni Islam. For Shiites, their own school of Islam regulates personal status matters. Before a family court the testimony of a woman is worth half of that of a man.[198]
Lebanon: there are 17 official religions in Lebanon, each with its own family law and religious courts. Law of 16 July 1962 concurring in the project of organization of the Sharia, with Sunni and Ja'afari Shii jurisdictions.[191]
Libya: Qaddafi merged civil and sharia courts in 1973. Civil courts now employ sharia judges who sit in regular courts of appeal and specialise in sharia appellate cases.[199] The personal status laws are derived from Islamic law.[200]
Malaysia: Muslims are bound by Sharia on personal matters like marriage and custody rights, while members of other faiths follow civil law. In 1988 the constitution was amended to state that civil courts cannot hear matters that fall within the jurisdiction of Sharia courts.[201] Muslims are required to follow Islamic law in family, property and religious matters.[202] In 2002, the state government of Terengganu approved a bill to bring in Islamic criminal law, including death by stoning for adultery and cutting off hands and feet for theft.[203] Kelantan also enacted similar laws, but they cannot be applied as they are in conflict with the constitution.[204] Malaysian Muslims can be sentenced to caning for such offences as drinking beer,[205] and adultery.[206]
Morocco: in 1956, a Code of Personal Status (Mudawana) was issued, based on dominant Maliki doctrine. Sharia sections of regional courts also hear personal status cases on appeal.[207] In matters of family law, a woman’s testimony is worth only half of that of a man.[208] The Moudawana was the subject of a wide-ranging reform in 2004.[209]
Oman: provisions of the Islamic Sharia are the basis for legislation in Oman as stated in Article 2 of the Basic Law. The Personal Statute (Family) Law issued by Royal Decree 97/32 codified provisions of Sharia.[210] Sharia is the source of all legislation, and Sharia Court Departments within the civil court system are responsible for family-law matters, such as divorce and inheritance.[211] Instead of having a separate sharia court system, there is a department of sharia within all the three tiers of the country’s court system which deals with matters related to personal status. A 2008 law stipulates that the testimonies of men and women before a court are equal.[212]
Singapore: sharia courts may hear and determine actions in which all parties are Muslims or in which parties involved were married under Muslim law. Court has jurisdiction over cases related to marriage, divorce, betrothal, nullity of marriage, judicial separation, division of property on divorce, payment of dowry, maintenance, and muta.[213]
Somalia: Sharia was adopted in 2009.[214] Religious law is traditionally only used to settle domestic disputes, including issues of marriage and family. Traditional law usually takes precedence on criminal matters.[215]
Sri Lanka: private matters of Muslims are governed by Muslim Law, including marriage, divorce custody and maintenance. Muslim law principles have been codified in the Act No. 13 of 1951 Marriage and Divorce (Muslim) Act; Act No. 10 of 1931 Muslim Intestate Succession Ordinance and Act No. 51 of 1956 Muslim Mosques and Charitable Trusts or Wakfs Act.[216]
Syria: the Personal Status Law 59 of 1953 (amended by Law 34 of 1975) is essentially a codified sharia.[217] Article 3(2) of the 1973 constitution declares Islamic jurisprudence a main source of legislation. The Code of Personal Status is applied to Muslims by sharia courts.[218] In sharia courts a woman’s testimony is worth only half of a man’s.[219]
Tanzania: Islamic law is applicable to Muslims under the Judicature and Applications of Laws Act, empowering courts to apply Islamic law to matters of succession in communities that generally follow Islamic law in matters of personal status and inheritance. Unlike mainland Tanzania, Zanzibar retains Islamic courts.[220]
Uganda: article 129 (1) (d) of the constitution allows the parliament to establish by law "Qadhi’s courts for marriage, divorce, inheritance of property and guardianship".[221]
West Bank: the Jordanian personal status law of 1976 is applied. The personal status law is based on Islamic law and regulates matters related to inheritance, marriage, divorce and child custody. Shari’a courts hear cases related to personal status. The testimony of a woman is worth only half of that of a man in cases related to marriage, divorce and child custody.[187]
Regional application


Use of Sharia in Southeast Asia:
Choice between sharia and secular courts, only on personal status issues
Sharia applies in personal status issues only
Sharia applies in full, including criminal law
Mindanao, Philippines: there are sharia trial and circuit trial courts in Mindanao.[222] Sharia District Courts (SDCs) and Sharia Circuit Courts (SCCs) were created in 1977 through Presidential Decree 1083, which is also known as the Code of Muslim Personal Laws.[223]
Thailand: in Yala, Narathiwat, Pattani and Songkhla provinces, Islamic law is allowed for settling family and inheritance issues under a 1946 law.[224]
[edit]Full Sharia
Countries where Sharia applies in full, covering personal status issues as well as criminal proceedings. The harshest penalties are enforced with varying levels of consistency.[225]
Nationwide application
Afghanistan: criminal law in Afghanistan continues to be governed in large part by Islamic law. The Criminal Law of September 1976 codifies sharia, and retains punishments such as the stoning to death of adulterers. However virtually all courts, including the Supreme Court of Afghanistan, rely on Islamic law directly.[226]
Iraq: the 1958 Code, made polygamy extremely difficult, granted child custody to the mother in case of divorce, prohibited repudiation and marriage under the age of 16.[191] Article 1 of Civil Code also identifies Islamic law as a formal source of law.[227] Iraq had no Sharia courts but civil courts used Sharia for issues of personal status including marriage and divorce. In 1995 Iraq introduced Sharia punishment for certain types of criminal offenses.[228] The code is based on French civil law as well as Sunni and Jafari (Shi’ite) interpretations of Sharia.[229] Article 41 of the constitution allows for personal status matters (such as marriage, divorce and inheritance) to be governed by the rules of each religious group. The article has not yet been put into effect, and a unified personal status law remains in place that builds on the 1959 personal status code.[230]
Iran: article 167 of the constitution states that all judicial rulings must be based upon "authoritative Islamic sources and authentic fatwa".[231] Book 2 of the Islamic Penal Code of Iran is entirely devoted to hudud punishments, including flogging and stoning for adultery, and execution for men who have sex with men.[232]
Maldives: article 15 of the Act Number 1/81 (Penal Code) allows for hudud punishments.[233] Article 156 of the constitution states that law includes the norms and provisions of sharia.[234]
Mauritania: the Penal Code contains Sharia crimes such heresy, apostasy, atheism, refusal to pray, adultery and alcoholism. Punishments include lapidation, amputation and flagellation.[235]
Pakistan: until 1978 Islamic law was largely restricted to personal status issues. Zia ul Haq introduced Sharia courts and made far reaching changes in the criminal justice system.[236] Articles 203a to 203j of the constitution establish a sharia court with the power to judge any law or government actions to be against Islam, and to review court cases for adherence to Islamic law. The penal code includes elements of sharia.[237] Under article 5, section 2 of the Ordinance No. VII of 1979, whoever is guilty of zina, "if he or she is a muhsan, be stoned to death at a public place; or if he or she is not a mushan, be punished, at a public place, with whipping numbering one hundred stripes".[238] Under a 2006 law, rape cases can be heard under civil as well as Islamic law.[239]
Qatar: Sharia is the main source of legislation. Codified family law was introduced in 2006. Sharia courts were abolished in 2003 but Sharia principles are still applied in matters related to personal status (such as marriage, divorce and child custody). In some cases a woman’s testimony is worth half a man’s and in some cases a female witness is not accepted at all.[240] Article 1 of the Law No. 11 Of 2004 (Penal Code) allows for the application of "sharia provisions" for the crimes of theft, adultery, defamation, drinking alcohol and apostasy if either the suspect or the victim is a Muslim.[241]
Saudi Arabia: Saudi criminal law is based totally on sharia.[242] No codified personal status law exists, which means that judges in courts rule based on their own interpretations of sharia.[243] See Legal system of Saudi Arabia
Sudan: the Criminal Act of 1991 prescribes punishments which include forty lashes for drinking alcohol, amputation of the right hand for theft of a certain value and stoning for adultery.[244][245]
Yemen: law 20/1992 regulates personal status. The constitution mentions sharia.[246] Penal law provides for application of hadd penalties for certain crimes, although the extent of implementation is unclear.[247] Article 263 of the 1994 penal code states that "the adulterer and adulteress without suspicion or coercion are punished with whipping by one hundred strokes as a penalty if not married. [...] If the adulterer or the adulteress are married, they are punished by stoning them to death."[248]
Regional application
Aceh: the only part of Indonesia to apply Sharia in full. Islamic courts in Aceh had long handled cases of marriage, divorce and inheritance. After special autonomy legislation was passed in 2001, the reach of courts extend to criminal justice.[249] Under a 2009 law, married people convicted of adultery can be sentenced to death by stoning, while unmarried people can be sentenced to 100 lashes.[250]


Use of Sharia in Nigeria:
Sharia plays no role in the judicial system
Sharia applies in personal status issues only
Sharia applies in full, including criminal law
Nigeria: until 1999, Islamic law applied primarily to civil matters, but twelve of Nigeria’s thirty-six states have since extended Sharia to criminal matters.[251] Sharia courts can order amputations, and a few have been carried out.[252] The twelve sharia states are Zamfara, Bauchi, Borno, Gombe, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Niger, Sokoto and Yobe.[253] Borno, Gombe and Yobe have not yet begun to apply their Sharia Penal Codes.[254] See also the main article, Sharia in Nigeria.
United Arab Emirates: the court system comprises Sharia courts and civil courts. The Personal Status Law, which is based on Sharia and was enacted in 2005, regulates matters such as marriage, divorce and child custody. In criminal matters a woman’s testimony is worth half of that of a man before a court.[255] Sharia courts have exclusive jurisdiction to hear family disputes, including matters involving divorce, inheritances, child custody, child abuse and guardianship of minors. Sharia courts may, at the federal level only, also hear appeals of certain criminal cases including rape, robbery, driving under the influence of alcohol and related crimes. Dubai and Ras Al Khaimah are not part of the federal judicial system.[256] Article 1 of the 1987 Federal Penal Code states that "provisions of the Islamic Law shall apply to the crimes of doctrinal punishment, punitive punishment and blood money."[257] The Federal Penal Code repealed only those provisions within the penal codes of individual Emirates which are contradictory to the Federal Penal Code. Hence, both are enforceable simultaneously.[258] Sharia courts sometimes impose flogging sentences for drug use, prostitution, and adultery.[259]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

 

[Weatherman2020]

1/3 of Israel is Arab, yet 1 Jew living in the West Bank is justification for blowing up a school bus.

 

[Roudy]

But you do agree that Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state, right?

States don't have rights, people do.

I think this whole "right to exist" think is a moot point. Israel exists. People need to accept that and realize there isn't anything anyone can do about it if they don't like it. The last time someone tried to do something about it, Israel kicked their ass in just a week. And the same thing would happen again today if anyone tried. Israel is the biggest military power in the ME. They are the "big dog" on the block and no other country in the ME has the military capability to go up against them.

Now, if they go after Iran, then Israel might be facing someone who does have the capability of kicking their ass. Russia. Israel has a powerful military, but going up against Russia, is like moving up in weight class. Sugar Ray Robinson thought he could move up to light-heavyweight and still kick ass like he did as a middle weight. But he found out what happens when you start fighting bigger dudes.

Right to exist matters when those that Israel is expected to negotiate with, have stated implicitly they believe in the total destruction of Israel, at all costs, including faking negotiating for peace to deceive the Israelis. Therefore making all negotiations, agreements, and signatures worthless.

You keep mentioning Russia. For the hundredth time, Russia will not intervene in an Israel / Iran war. It could care less other than observe and take notes as a good testing ground for it's air defense systems, which will fail miserably.

 

[MHunterB]

Oh, golly - I'm sooo! impressed by Loinboy scraping schmutz off of Mondoscheisse to drag in here ........

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh, golly - I'm sooo! impressed by Loinboy scraping schmutz off of Mondoscheisse to drag in here ........

Huh?

 

[MHunterB]

And citing that conspiranutter Falk as a 'source' as well....... Yes, that certainly is impressive.

Unfortunately, it's a NEGATIVE impression. But then, once someone has fantasized that 'the Protocols are prophetic', I'm not sure any further insanity they'd post is going to be a surprise.

 

[MHunterB]

Don't you pay any attention to where the stuff you're citing was originally posted?

 

[Billo_Really]

Right to exist matters when those that Israel is expected to negotiate with, have stated implicitly they believe in the total destruction of Israel, at all costs, including faking negotiating for peace to deceive the Israelis. Therefore making all negotiations, agreements, and signatures worthless.

It doesn't matter how many times someone wants to "destroy Israel", no one has the capability to do it. If a 4 year old girl comes up to you and say's, "I'm gonna kick your fuckin' ass!" Would you treat it as a serious threat to your safety. Or would you think, whatever floats your boat, sweetie and just go on with your daily life?

You keep mentioning Russia. For the hundredth time, Russia will not intervene in an Israel / Iran war. It could care less other than observe and take notes as a good testing ground for it's air defense systems, which will fail miserably.

We hope they won't, but you can't rule it out.

 

[Billo_Really]

Don't you pay any attention to where the stuff you're citing was originally posted?

Who are you talking to?

 

[Billo_Really]

1/3 of Israel is Arab, yet 1 Jew living in the West Bank is justification for blowing up a school bus.

Not anymore. Palestinian's are not allowed on public transportation. They're kicked off buses now.

 

[Billo_Really]

Ya never know.

You're forgetting one thing, when Jesus comes back, he's bringing protection.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJonM0fM54]Terminator - YouTube[/ame]

 

[irosie91]

Ya never know.

You're forgetting one thing, when Jesus comes back, he's bringing protection.

condoms?

 

[Hossfly]

1/3 of Israel is Arab, yet 1 Jew living in the West Bank is justification for blowing up a school bus.

Not anymore. Palestinian's are not allowed on public transportation. They're kicked off buses now.

Is that a fact?


?Palestinian Only? Buses in Israel: The Big Lies are Back | The Jewish Press

 

[Hossfly]

Why then call up Flo's Bar and have them send the schizoid over to the bar you frequent. This way you and the schizoid can have a nice tete a tete while sitting on the bar stools and can blame Israel and the Jews for everything wrong in the world.

You've been watching a little too much Walker, Texas Ranger, because people don't talk politics in bars, they talk sports.

Of course you would know -- being a regular at some bar in Long Beach. Maybe if you went to a little higher class bar, the patrons might also talk a little politics. Try it some time and then get back to us when you are sober.

 

[Roudy]

You first.

Hey, I'm not the one throwing people off of public transportation.

Some of the shit you people do to the Pals is just plain mean.

No you're the one who thinks shooting missiles into cities, blowing up little kids, and suicide bombing is a form of "resistance". Ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

Maybe you should stop smoking pot before you post here???

I haven't smoked a joint in 18 years.

Can't afford it? If?

 

[Roudy]

Right to exist matters when those that Israel is expected to negotiate with, have stated implicitly they believe in the total destruction of Israel, at all costs, including faking negotiating for peace to deceive the Israelis. Therefore making all negotiations, agreements, and signatures worthless.

It doesn't matter how many times someone wants to "destroy Israel", no one has the capability to do it. If a 4 year old girl comes up to you and say's, "I'm gonna kick your fuckin' ass!" Would you treat it as a serious threat to your safety. Or would you think, whatever floats your boat, sweetie and just go on with your daily life?

You keep mentioning Russia. For the hundredth time, Russia will not intervene in an Israel / Iran war. It could care less other than observe and take notes as a good testing ground for it's air defense systems, which will fail miserably.

We hope they won't, but you can't rule it out.

Al Queda wasn't taken seriously enough and then Sept 11 happened.

 

[Billo_Really]

Al Queda wasn't taken seriously enough and then Sept 11 happened.

al Qaeda was a CIA creation. If we would've just been fair to Israel and the Palestinian's both, treated them the same, not kept our military in Saudi and stopped bombing the shit out of brown people, 9/11 might not ever have happened.

 

[Billo_Really]

Can't afford it? If?

No. It wasn't anything concious. It just got old. After partying for years, it just didn't have the rush it did in the past when I was younger. Remember, I grew up a Catholic. I was told everything I did was wrong. So when I got to 17 and was no longer in parochial school and my dad gave me my first car, I couldn't wait to do everything.