Another Good Month On The Jobs Front...unemployment Drops To 5.9%

[bigrebnc1775]

Your coming on here and spamming misleading statistics won't change the abysmal job that the Obama Administration has done with economic growth and job creation.

Is it 'job creators' that create jobs or the Prez?




Hell, IF the 'job creators' don't do it, why are their effective tax rates less than half of what they were in the 1940-'s and 1950's? Yes, Dubya lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years, Obamaa has had over 6.6 million NET created under him, so of course it's the socialists who is the problem, lol

Job creators create jobs presidential policy can kill jobs. Like obamacare If a job creator is being forced to pay for helthcare coverage he'll start laying off employees

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Economy gains 248 000 jobs as hiring rebounds

The labor market rebounded sharply in September as employers added 248,000 jobs, the second largest gain for any month this year.
The unemployment rate fell to 5.9% from 6.1%, lowest since July 2008, the Labor Department said Friday.

What types of jobs? Are they requiring people to take up more than one job to make a decent living?

THE TYPE THAT GAWWDDDAM 'FREE MARKET' PROVIDES.


The Republican Myth of Obama’s ‘Part-Time America’ Gets Destroyed With One Graph

The president's critics love this talking point. But since 2010, full-time jobs are up 7.6 million, and part-time jobs have declined by more than 900,000.


Here s What Obama s Part-Time America Really Looks Like - The Atlantic

You know what's amusing to me, Dad? You look at that graph as "proof" that ObamaCare didn't cause an increase in part-time employment based on the fact that the ACA went into effect AFTER the huge rise in part-time employment! What that shows ME is that American businesses saw the ACA coming and went to part-time jobs instead of full-time jobs in advance of the start of ACA regulations kicking in.

Only a dumb ass would not see it that way.

 

[Dad2three]

Your coming on here and spamming misleading statistics won't change the abysmal job that the Obama Administration has done with economic growth and job creation.

Is it 'job creators' that create jobs or the Prez?




Hell, IF the 'job creators' don't do it, why are their effective tax rates less than half of what they were in the 1940-'s and 1950's? Yes, Dubya lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years, Obamaa has had over 6.6 million NET created under him, so of course it's the socialists who is the problem, lol

Job creators create jobs presidential policy can kill jobs. Like obamacare If a job creator is being forced to pay for helthcare coverage he'll start laying off employees

Yes, thats why Dubya/GOP policies for 8 years, since the Dems couldn't change ANYTHING, woprked so well, they lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs. Under Obama, SINCE Obamacares has passed OVER 10+ MILLION private sector jobs have been created. Horrible

ACA PASSED FEB 2010

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Stupid follow thew numbers from 2004 until 2008 participation numbers hovered around the 66 mark
From 2009+ until 2014 the participation rate has declined without fluctuating back up. In 2009 it was 65.7 in Sept. 2014 it was 62.7 without going up at any time during those years.

OH and dumb ass the participation rate does represent PEOPLE you dumb mother fucker.

There are 1,458,000 more PEOPLE in the workforce now than when Bush left office. You said Bush had "more PEOPLE" in the work force. I love how the Right plays dumb so they can lie with impunity, because thanks to St Ronnie they have convinced themselves that they are not lying if they are too stupid to know they are lying.

Look at the GOVERNMENT CHART ONE MORE TIME DUMB ASS

YOU SHOULD STOP NOW BUT YOU NEVER DO

No matter how many times you pretend not to know the difference between people and a %, you were still lying when you claimed there were "MORE PEOPLE" in the labor force under Bush when he left office than now.

Moron people make up the participation rate. fewer PEOPLE means less participation meaning the numbers will drop,
Naturally being a dumb ass obama supporter you will never comprehend that. Try to say something else and say you won doesn't work with me dumb ass.

Obviously not always as the number of people in the labor force increased and the LPR fell. Again, demographics can have a greater effect on the LPR than economic conditions, as is happening now, which is why the LPR cannot be considered without taking into account the effect of demographics.

DUMB FUCK
fewer PEOPLE WORKING MEANS THE PARTICIPATION RATE WILL DROP
WHAT IS 2+2?

 

[Dad2three]

We have added $26 trillion to household wealth since Obama has been president

Grow a brain

30+ years problem, one Obama inherited, remember fall 2008? Remember 2001-2009? ANYTHING?




Link?

Household wealth rises 1.7 to record level

"But the wealth gains are flowing mainly to affluent Americans. Broad stock market averages have jumped more than 150% from their trough in the spring of 2009. But roughly 10% of households own about 80% of stocks."

The rich got richer...and the Middle Class continues to get screwed by this Administration. Remember that the next time you see Barry waxing eloquent on how much he's THERE for the Middle Class! It's all political theater!

lol

80% of the population owns 5% of the wealth.

Who Rules America Wealth Income and Power

The middle class has been eviscerated.

Neo-Liberalism/Conservatives is/has destroyed the
American Economy in favor of the so called "Job Creator"... In reality are "Job Exporters"...


"We crashed the economy but we don't like the way you tried to fix it." - GOP.

Dude, the Middle Class has been "eviscerated" by the Obama Administration not by the GOP! Under Barack Obama the richest Americans got much richer and the Middle Class got poorer.

Jobs are being exported because the US has the highest Corporate tax rate in the world and you Progressives are too stubborn to admit that not lowering it is costing the US jobs and business growth.

Did ANY of you liberals take economics in college? It's obvious that Barry didn't...

Grow a brain

30+ years problem, one Obama inherited, remember fall 2008? Remember 2001-2009? ANYTHING?

Highest Corp tax rate? Oh you mean that thing almost any comp that COULD move out of the US DOESN'T pay? You know since it's the EFFECTIVE rate that matters, and it hit 40+ year lows around 12% ON RECORD CORP INCOME!!!

BTW, Obama proposed lowering it to 28% and getting rid of loopholes, what did the party of NO say again? lol

Weird IF jobs were moving overseas, why, when the GOP had the Congress for MOST of 15 years, they did NOTHING with the 'highest corp tax rate' in the world? Oh because it's more important to look at EFFECTIVE rates!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Your coming on here and spamming misleading statistics won't change the abysmal job that the Obama Administration has done with economic growth and job creation.

Is it 'job creators' that create jobs or the Prez?




Hell, IF the 'job creators' don't do it, why are their effective tax rates less than half of what they were in the 1940-'s and 1950's? Yes, Dubya lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years, Obamaa has had over 6.6 million NET created under him, so of course it's the socialists who is the problem, lol

Job creators create jobs presidential policy can kill jobs. Like obamacare If a job creator is being forced to pay for helthcare coverage he'll start laying off employees

Yes, thats why Dubya/GOP policies for 8 years, since the Dems couldn't change ANYTHING, woprked so well, they lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs. Under Obama, SINCE Obamacares has passed OVER 10+ MILLION private sector jobs have been created. Horrible

ACA PASSED FEB 2010

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

DUMB PUSSY
Using the chart I posted people losing their jobs didn't happen until after obama and the democrats took control of the government.
You are one ignorant bastard.

 

[Shrimpbox]

The home ownership society was bill Clinton's idea that was carried on by bush..

Dad to three your blind hatred for everything bush does not allow you to objectively critique the reasons for the recession. No problem is one dimensional and you make it worse by dismissing anything that doesn't include bush bashing, so you really don't move the ball forward, you do a disservice to honest debate and problem solving.

George W. Bush - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME

You might try the above link for a little more context to the issue. Time magazine is a liberal rag so you will find many like thinkers.

The point here is that failure to understand completely what brought about one crisis does not bode well for preventing the next.

 

[Dad2three]

Economy gains 248 000 jobs as hiring rebounds

The labor market rebounded sharply in September as employers added 248,000 jobs, the second largest gain for any month this year.
The unemployment rate fell to 5.9% from 6.1%, lowest since July 2008, the Labor Department said Friday.

What types of jobs? Are they requiring people to take up more than one job to make a decent living?

THE TYPE THAT GAWWDDDAM 'FREE MARKET' PROVIDES.


The Republican Myth of Obama’s ‘Part-Time America’ Gets Destroyed With One Graph

The president's critics love this talking point. But since 2010, full-time jobs are up 7.6 million, and part-time jobs have declined by more than 900,000.


Here s What Obama s Part-Time America Really Looks Like - The Atlantic

You know what's amusing to me, Dad? You look at that graph as "proof" that ObamaCare didn't cause an increase in part-time employment based on the fact that the ACA went into effect AFTER the huge rise in part-time employment! What that shows ME is that American businesses saw the ACA coming and went to part-time jobs instead of full-time jobs in advance of the start of ACA regulations kicking in.

Only a dumb ass would not see it that way.

Or someone with a brain and sees the actual RESULTS

HERE IS BLS TO BACK IT UP

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[Dad2three]

Your coming on here and spamming misleading statistics won't change the abysmal job that the Obama Administration has done with economic growth and job creation.

Is it 'job creators' that create jobs or the Prez?




Hell, IF the 'job creators' don't do it, why are their effective tax rates less than half of what they were in the 1940-'s and 1950's? Yes, Dubya lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years, Obamaa has had over 6.6 million NET created under him, so of course it's the socialists who is the problem, lol

Job creators create jobs presidential policy can kill jobs. Like obamacare If a job creator is being forced to pay for helthcare coverage he'll start laying off employees

Yes, thats why Dubya/GOP policies for 8 years, since the Dems couldn't change ANYTHING, woprked so well, they lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs. Under Obama, SINCE Obamacares has passed OVER 10+ MILLION private sector jobs have been created. Horrible

ACA PASSED FEB 2010

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

DUMB PUSSY
Using the chart I posted people losing their jobs didn't happen until after obama and the democrats took control of the government.
You are one ignorant bastard.

Cool, NOW IF you had just ONE bill the Dems pased that caused Dubya's ponzi scheme to fail? lol

Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”


FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum



PERHAPS IT'S NOT TO LATE TO GROW A BRAIN BUBBA?

 

[Dad2three]

The home ownership society was bill Clinton's idea that was carried on by bush..

Dad to three your blind hatred for everything bush does not allow you to objectively critique the reasons for the recession. No problem is one dimensional and you make it worse by dismissing anything that doesn't include bush bashing, so you really don't move the ball forward, you do a disservice to honest debate and problem solving.

George W. Bush - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME

You might try the above link for a little more context to the issue. Time magazine is a liberal rag so you will find many like thinkers.

The point here is that failure to understand completely what brought about one crisis does not bode well for preventing the next.

Weird, is that supposed to be proof of ANYTHING other than just their short summary? lol

CLINTON?

Dubya had household debt DOUBLE in his first 7 years. Was that Clinton?



Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”


"Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them.

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


One president controlled the regulators that not only let banks stop checking income but cheered them on. And as president Bush could enact the very policies that caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble and he did. And his party controlled congress.

 

[Shrimpbox]

I rest my case

 

[Dad2three]

I rest my case

What's that? It was Clinton? Barney? Fannie/Freddie? BUT NOT like the data I provide, Dubya's lack of regulators on the beat AND OTHER POLICIES. Nope, not Dubya



Bushs documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Invesntment banks capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments

PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING


But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[edthecynic]

There are 1,458,000 more PEOPLE in the workforce now than when Bush left office. You said Bush had "more PEOPLE" in the work force. I love how the Right plays dumb so they can lie with impunity, because thanks to St Ronnie they have convinced themselves that they are not lying if they are too stupid to know they are lying.

Look at the GOVERNMENT CHART ONE MORE TIME DUMB ASS

YOU SHOULD STOP NOW BUT YOU NEVER DO

No matter how many times you pretend not to know the difference between people and a %, you were still lying when you claimed there were "MORE PEOPLE" in the labor force under Bush when he left office than now.

Moron people make up the participation rate. fewer PEOPLE means less participation meaning the numbers will drop,
Naturally being a dumb ass obama supporter you will never comprehend that. Try to say something else and say you won doesn't work with me dumb ass.

Obviously not always as the number of people in the labor force increased and the LPR fell. Again, demographics can have a greater effect on the LPR than economic conditions, as is happening now, which is why the LPR cannot be considered without taking into account the effect of demographics.

DUMB FUCK
fewer PEOPLE WORKING MEANS THE PARTICIPATION RATE WILL DROP
WHAT IS 2+2?

Here we go again, you still don't know what a "person" is! You probably think a corporation is a "person."

When Bush left office there were 142,152,000 people working and there are 146,600,000 people working now. That's more people working as the LPR drops. In fact there are more people working now then at any time in our history and yet the LPR drops. This is exactly why the LPR is such a lousy economic indicator, DEMOGRAPHICS can cause the LPR to drop whether the number of people working is increasing or decreasing. That is why nobody made a peep while the LPR fell and there were 80 million not working under Bush.

 

[Oldstyle]

Grow a brain

30+ years problem, one Obama inherited, remember fall 2008? Remember 2001-2009? ANYTHING?




Link?

Household wealth rises 1.7 to record level

"But the wealth gains are flowing mainly to affluent Americans. Broad stock market averages have jumped more than 150% from their trough in the spring of 2009. But roughly 10% of households own about 80% of stocks."

The rich got richer...and the Middle Class continues to get screwed by this Administration. Remember that the next time you see Barry waxing eloquent on how much he's THERE for the Middle Class! It's all political theater!

lol

80% of the population owns 5% of the wealth.

Who Rules America Wealth Income and Power

The middle class has been eviscerated.

Neo-Liberalism/Conservatives is/has destroyed the
American Economy in favor of the so called "Job Creator"... In reality are "Job Exporters"...


"We crashed the economy but we don't like the way you tried to fix it." - GOP.

Dude, the Middle Class has been "eviscerated" by the Obama Administration not by the GOP! Under Barack Obama the richest Americans got much richer and the Middle Class got poorer.

Jobs are being exported because the US has the highest Corporate tax rate in the world and you Progressives are too stubborn to admit that not lowering it is costing the US jobs and business growth.

Did ANY of you liberals take economics in college? It's obvious that Barry didn't...

Grow a brain

30+ years problem, one Obama inherited, remember fall 2008? Remember 2001-2009? ANYTHING?

Highest Corp tax rate? Oh you mean that thing almost any comp that COULD move out of the US DOESN'T pay? You know since it's the EFFECTIVE rate that matters, and it hit 40+ year lows around 12% ON RECORD CORP INCOME!!!

BTW, Obama proposed lowering it to 28% and getting rid of loopholes, what did the party of NO say again? lol

Weird IF jobs were moving overseas, why, when the GOP had the Congress for MOST of 15 years, they did NOTHING with the 'highest corp tax rate' in the world? Oh because it's more important to look at EFFECTIVE rates!

Do you even think about this nonsense you post? If the "effective" rate was low then companies WOULDN'T be moving overseas to escape the US corporate tax rate.

Read the following and see why they ARE!

The U.S. Corporate Effective Tax Rate Myth and the Fact Tax Foundation

 

[Oldstyle]

Or this article...

The U.S. Ranks 32nd Out Of 34 OECD Countries In Tax Code Competitiveness - Forbes

 

[AntiParty]

Labor participation rate at a 36 year low woot!

"Labor Participation".............are you kidding me?.........

NAFTA outsourced the jobs and you cry about "participation?!"

...........

 

[Geaux4it]

nm

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Look at the GOVERNMENT CHART ONE MORE TIME DUMB ASS

YOU SHOULD STOP NOW BUT YOU NEVER DO

No matter how many times you pretend not to know the difference between people and a %, you were still lying when you claimed there were "MORE PEOPLE" in the labor force under Bush when he left office than now.

Moron people make up the participation rate. fewer PEOPLE means less participation meaning the numbers will drop,
Naturally being a dumb ass obama supporter you will never comprehend that. Try to say something else and say you won doesn't work with me dumb ass.

Obviously not always as the number of people in the labor force increased and the LPR fell. Again, demographics can have a greater effect on the LPR than economic conditions, as is happening now, which is why the LPR cannot be considered without taking into account the effect of demographics.

DUMB FUCK
fewer PEOPLE WORKING MEANS THE PARTICIPATION RATE WILL DROP
WHAT IS 2+2?

Here we go again, you still don't know what a "person" is! You probably think a corporation is a "person."

When Bush left office there were 142,152,000 people working and there are 146,600,000 people working now. That's more people working as the LPR drops. In fact there are more people working now then at any time in our history and yet the LPR drops. This is exactly why the LPR is such a lousy economic indicator, DEMOGRAPHICS can cause the LPR to drop whether the number of people working is increasing or decreasing. That is why nobody made a peep while the LPR fell and there were 80 million not working under Bush.

Stupid there is no here we go again it's all you dumbass it's all you. You are to god damn stupid to understand the participation rate REPRESENTS PEOPLE.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I rest my case

What's that? It was Clinton? Barney? Fannie/Freddie? BUT NOT like the data I provide, Dubya's lack of regulators on the beat AND OTHER POLICIES. Nope, not Dubya



Bushs documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Invesntment banks capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments

PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING


But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

YOU ARE JUST AS STUPID AS YOUR AVATAR LOOKS.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Your coming on here and spamming misleading statistics won't change the abysmal job that the Obama Administration has done with economic growth and job creation.

Is it 'job creators' that create jobs or the Prez?




Hell, IF the 'job creators' don't do it, why are their effective tax rates less than half of what they were in the 1940-'s and 1950's? Yes, Dubya lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years, Obamaa has had over 6.6 million NET created under him, so of course it's the socialists who is the problem, lol

Job creators create jobs presidential policy can kill jobs. Like obamacare If a job creator is being forced to pay for helthcare coverage he'll start laying off employees

Yes, thats why Dubya/GOP policies for 8 years, since the Dems couldn't change ANYTHING, woprked so well, they lost over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs. Under Obama, SINCE Obamacares has passed OVER 10+ MILLION private sector jobs have been created. Horrible

ACA PASSED FEB 2010

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

DUMB PUSSY
Using the chart I posted people losing their jobs didn't happen until after obama and the democrats took control of the government.
You are one ignorant bastard.

Cool, NOW IF you had just ONE bill the Dems pased that caused Dubya's ponzi scheme to fail? lol

Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”


FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum



PERHAPS IT'S NOT TO LATE TO GROW A BRAIN BUBBA?

I keep telling you that you have no god damn facts. You do understand this correct?