Another Interstate Bridge Collapse

[OriginalShroom]

How many of these bridges could have been fixed with the Billions Obama has given his friends and supporters in the name of "Green Energy"?

 

[Missourian]

The bridge was built in 1953 and was last inspected in June 2011. At that time, the deck condition was listed as satisfactory (6 out of 9), the superstructure conduction rating was satisfactory (6 out of 9) and the sufficiency rating was 54.9 (out of 100).

Read more: BREAKING: I-5 bridge collapses over Skagit River; vehicles, people in water | Q13 FOX News
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Uh...at it's last inspection, the bridge in question was rated as Satisfactory. ^^^


A 6 rating = Equal to present minimum criteria.

National Bridge Inventory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The bridge is not considered structurally deficient but is listed as being "functionally obsolete" — a category meaning that their design is outdated, such as having narrow shoulders are low clearance underneath, according to a database compiled by the Federal Highway Administration.

No fatalities in I-5 bridge collapse in NW Wash. - CBS News

Yes, it was "Functionally obsolete" because the guardrail transitions did not meet the current acceptable standard.

http://www.nationalbridges.com/inde...s&query=8&lqm_id=679300&&format=raw&&Itemid=2

The bridge was deemed structurally sound.

 

[Mertex]

The bridge was built in 1953 and was last inspected in June 2011. At that time, the deck condition was listed as satisfactory (6 out of 9), the superstructure conduction rating was satisfactory (6 out of 9) and the sufficiency rating was 54.9 (out of 100).

Read more: BREAKING: I-5 bridge collapses over Skagit River; vehicles, people in water | Q13 FOX News
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Uh...at it's last inspection, the bridge in question was rated as Satisfactory. ^^^


A 6 rating = Equal to present minimum criteria.

National Bridge Inventory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Er, the Sufficiency rate at 54 suggests the followiing.

Sufficiency Rating
50 – 79 - Eligible for costs to rehabilitate or refurbish bridge
http://old.post-gazette.com/downloads/20070814PennDOT_bridge_chart.pdf

Also, it was listed as being functionally obsolete.

The bridge is not considered structurally deficient but is listed as being “functionally obsolete” - a category meaning that their design is outdated, such as having narrow shoulders are low clearance underneath, according to a database compiled by the Federal Highway Administration.

The bridge was built in 1955 and has a sufficiency rating of 57.4 out of 100, according to federal records. That is well below the statewide average rating of 80, according to an Associated Press analysis of federal data, but 759 bridges in the state have a lower sufficiency score.
I-5 bridge collapses north of Seattle; people in water | West Central Tribune

 

[Missourian]

The bridge was built in 1953 and was last inspected in June 2011. At that time, the deck condition was listed as satisfactory (6 out of 9), the superstructure conduction rating was satisfactory (6 out of 9) and the sufficiency rating was 54.9 (out of 100).

Read more: BREAKING: I-5 bridge collapses over Skagit River; vehicles, people in water | Q13 FOX News
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Uh...at it's last inspection, the bridge in question was rated as Satisfactory. ^^^


A 6 rating = Equal to present minimum criteria.

National Bridge Inventory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Er, the Sufficiency rate at 54 suggests the followiing.

Sufficiency Rating
50 – 79 - Eligible for costs to rehabilitate or refurbish bridge
http://old.post-gazette.com/downloads/20070814PennDOT_bridge_chart.pdf

Also, it was listed as being functionally obsolete.

The bridge is not considered structurally deficient but is listed as being “functionally obsolete” - a category meaning that their design is outdated, such as having narrow shoulders are low clearance underneath, according to a database compiled by the Federal Highway Administration.

The bridge was built in 1955 and has a sufficiency rating of 57.4 out of 100, according to federal records. That is well below the statewide average rating of 80, according to an Associated Press analysis of federal data, but 759 bridges in the state have a lower sufficiency score.
I-5 bridge collapses north of Seattle; people in water | West Central Tribune

Yes, it was "Functionally obsolete" because the guardrail transitions did not meet the current acceptable standard.

http://www.nationalbridges.com/inde...s&query=8&lqm_id=679300&&format=raw&&Itemid=2

The bridge was deemed structurally sound.

 

[Luissa]

How many of these bridges could have been fixed with the Billions Obama has given his friends and supporters in the name of "Green Energy"?

More like, if congress could agree on a bill how many bridges could be fixed. The last bill expired in 2009.

 

[OriginalShroom]

With Washington State being such a Deep Blue State, why didn't the Democrats of that State keep the bridge repaired?

 

[OriginalShroom]

How many of these bridges could have been fixed with the Billions Obama has given his friends and supporters in the name of "Green Energy"?

More like, if congress could agree on a bill how many bridges could be fixed. The last bill expired in 2009.

Is it the function of the Federal Government to keep State Bridges repaired?

Why aren't the Democrats who control the Government in Washington State being held responsible?

 

[Missourian]

"While the cause of the collapse is still unknown, witnesses reported seeing a semitruck with an oversized load crossing the bridge and striking the beams on the north end before the bridge collapsed."

<SNIP>

"I saw the truck strike the right corner of the bridge. It almost tipped the truck over but it came back down. It tipped it up to about a 30 degree angle to the left and it came back down on its wheels and almost instantaneously behind that I saw girders falling in my rearview mirror."

I-5 bridge collapses over Skagit River, no fatalities | KING5.com Seattle

 

[Luissa]

With Washington State being such a Deep Blue State, why didn't the Democrats of that State keep the bridge repaired?

It's on I 5, which means it falls under federal not state.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Upkeep is still by the State, not the Federal Government.

 

[Missourian]

How much infrastructure spending will it take exactly to keep a truck from colliding with the overhead girder supports...rounded off to the nearest gazillion?

 

[Luissa]

How many of these bridges could have been fixed with the Billions Obama has given his friends and supporters in the name of "Green Energy"?

More like, if congress could agree on a bill how many bridges could be fixed. The last bill expired in 2009.

Is it the function of the Federal Government to keep State Bridges repaired?

Why aren't the Democrats who control the Government in Washington State being held responsible?

It's not a state bridge. It's part of the interstate highway system.

 

[Luissa]

Upkeep is still by the State, not the Federal Government.

Actually it isn't

 

[Missourian]

"I saw it. I was less than 50 feet away from the truck when it hit it," witness Dale Ogden told KING 5. "I had just passed it in the fast lane southbound and it had an oversized load. It was approximately 12 feet wide and over 14 feet tall. It was in the slow lane when I came by...I was behind the flag car and in front of the truck in the other lane and I saw the whip - normally tells you how high they can clear - start hitting the bridge. I looked in my rearview mirror knowing this was not going to turn out well."

I-5 bridge collapses over Skagit River | KING5.com Seattle

Understanding what likely happened here:

^^^ This is a pole car escort vehicle for over height loads.

That driver should be way ahead of the load bearing vehicle.

That pole is set to 3 inches higher than the highest point of the load.

If that pole comes in contact with a wire or structure, or God forbid breaks off...the pole car driver radios truck driver to stop the vehicle.

I've seen it happen quite often that a truck driver leaves insufficient room between the pole car and the truck, and by the time the pole car driver realizes there is a problem, it is already too late.

 

[Mertex]

Imagine how many bridges would eventually collapse, if we had the size government that Republicans insist on!

Let's see if some private company decides to rebuild the bridges for us, with their own money!

Republicans don't believe the government should build and/or maintain bridges? Can you name one who has said that?

Why should I name one, did I say one did?

 

[Star]

With Washington State being such a Deep Blue State, why didn't the Democrats of that State keep the bridge repaired?

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Having slept through civics class, I find it pretty gutsy of you to comment on a political discussion board.
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[Darkwind]

Some of us have been asking for infrastructure work for a long time. This bridge was "functionally obsolete", as are many others. How many have to die?

None.

Prioritize your spending is all it takes.

You can't fix things if all the money is spent elsewhere.

 

[Missourian]

So again...exactly how much infrastructure spending do you liberals imagine it will take to keep this 16(?) foot high oversized load from collapsing a bridge...rounded off to the nearest gazillion?

Can't let a crisis go to waste...

 

[OriginalShroom]

Upkeep is still by the State, not the Federal Government.

Actually it isn't

Care to support that position?

Actually, I found the data, and I will admit that I was wrong... 90% wrong. The States are required to pay for 10% of the upkeep.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/intmaint.cfm

 

[OriginalShroom]

With Washington State being such a Deep Blue State, why didn't the Democrats of that State keep the bridge repaired?

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Having slept through civics class, I find it pretty gutsy of you to comment on a political discussion board.
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If only you had a clue..

But you couldn't find one in the middle of clue mating season even if you were drenched in clue attractant.