Another lie debunked-Africans did nothing before the white man

[Asclepias]

I have not seen any of that. They seem to be talkin equality all the way.

Just read this thread from the beginning.

Hey West. You disappeared like a fart in the wind when I posted all those famous Greeks saying the Egyptians were Black. What happened. I had to put out an APB on you!

No, they said they were darker than greeks. And I went to dinner, as I stated in my last post.

Reading for comprehension is your friend.

I corrected your claim for you. He didnt say darker. He said Black. We know because he used the word melanchroes as at least 4 other Greeks did. Do you want me to post them again or are you going to disappear again if I do?

No, he said darker. The fact that your theologian can't decipher ancient Greek is his fault.

Sorry buddy. Here again Black is associated with two known Black groups. Aristotle here even lists the Egyptians first in his description of Black. All you have to do is listen to the Greeks.

"

"Too black a hue marks the coward, as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians, and so does also too white a complexion, as you may see from women. So the hue that makes for courage must be intermediate between these extremes. A tawny colour indicates a bold spirit, as in lions; but too ruddy a hue marks a rogue, as in the case of the fox. A pale mottled hue signifies cowardice, for that is the colour one turns in terror. "
-Aristotle

 

[Markle]

We are owed more than some words written on a piece of paper.

You are "owed" squat.

IF you are telling the truth, and you have no credibility, slavery ended more than six generations ago. Your grandparents would be ashamed of you believing you are OWED anything.

 

[MizMolly]

America has been around for almost 250 years and the nation still struggles with extreme wealth inequality, corruption in government and private business, crime and poverty. So don't talk that shit about Africa having 50 years and it's the blacks fault. That continent was doing very well until whites did what they did.

Whoa hang on a minute here now. Weren't you clowns crowing about a black leader who "was the richest evah".

What do you think the wealth gap was with him?

Can't have it both ways dude.

Im2 constantly boasts about how successful he is and how he is more so than the white posters he calls racists (which is most of them). If he can be successful, so can everyone.

 

[IM2]

Atlantic Slave Trade: Fallacy of Blacks selling Blacks

How is any of this relevant today? Other than as excuses.

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

Another butthurt racist crying because his racist argument was rendered to ashes. So he calls me a racist as if it's actually so because he makes a claim.

 

[westwall]

Atlantic Slave Trade: Fallacy of Blacks selling Blacks

How is any of this relevant today? Other than as excuses.

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

Another butthurt racist crying because his racist argument was rendered to ashes. So he calls me a racist as if it's actually so because he makes a claim.

Your arguments are fantasy, dude. In other words they don't matter.

You guys remind of these religious nutjobs trying to control snakes.

 

[Asclepias]

Atlantic Slave Trade: Fallacy of Blacks selling Blacks

How is any of this relevant today? Other than as excuses.

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

Another butthurt racist crying because his racist argument was rendered to ashes. So he calls me a racist as if it's actually so because he makes a claim.

Your arguments are fantasy, dude. In other words they don't matter.

You guys remind of these religious nutjobs trying to control snakes.

You remind me of the typical white person suffering from cognitive dissonance. Anyone that says someone didnt mean Black when they consistently used it to describe the Blackest people on the planet is a nutjob. Ethiopia literally means "burnt-faced" Why would they say Egyptians were just like Ethiopians?

 

[westwall]

How is any of this relevant today? Other than as excuses.

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

Another butthurt racist crying because his racist argument was rendered to ashes. So he calls me a racist as if it's actually so because he makes a claim.

Your arguments are fantasy, dude. In other words they don't matter.

You guys remind of these religious nutjobs trying to control snakes.

You remind me of the typical white person suffering from cognitive dissonance. Anyone that says someone didnt mean Black when they consistently used it to describe the Blackest people on the planet is a nutjob.

No, I fully acknowledge the great black men, and women, and their many accomplishments. It is you who try and claim that everything in the world was done by black people that are the deluded one

 

[Asclepias]

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

Another butthurt racist crying because his racist argument was rendered to ashes. So he calls me a racist as if it's actually so because he makes a claim.

Your arguments are fantasy, dude. In other words they don't matter.

You guys remind of these religious nutjobs trying to control snakes.

You remind me of the typical white person suffering from cognitive dissonance. Anyone that says someone didnt mean Black when they consistently used it to describe the Blackest people on the planet is a nutjob.

No, I fully acknowledge the great black men, and women, and their many accomplishments. It is you who try and claim that everything in the world was done by black people that are the deluded one

Bullshit! You cant even admit the Egyptians were Black when the Greeks that actually laid eyes on them used the term Black to describe them on multiple occasions. Face it. Your little white ego is too fragile to handle facts even when they are given to you on a silver platter. Thats the very definition of someone suffering from cognitive dissonance. The only other explanation is that you have a severe case of receptive aphasia.

 

[MizMolly]

Atlantic Slave Trade: Fallacy of Blacks selling Blacks

I really appreciated this video.

I often think about this issue when folks list reasons why the black community should have reparations, lists are made why.

But the only ethnic groups in the U.S. that are guilty of the sins, are in fact, the English, the Jewish families, and maybe the Welsh.

Not the Scots, not the Irish, not the French, not the Germans, not the Italians, not the Chinese, not other Asian groups, not the Hispanics, not the Natives, not the Russians, and not the Eastern Europeans. They were either indentured, mercenaries, or came over at the end of the 19th century. The were not given the benefits of the great social programs. These were reserved, primarily for the WASP's. Stereo typing "whites" into a mass categorization is just as bad as mass stereo typing "blacks" or "Hispanics." I love how he pointed this out.

So why should all of America be penalized, stereo-typed and accused of "white privilege" for the sins of two or three ethnic groups? All ethnic groups have suffered from crimes against the elites. It gets tiresome, and folks react poorly when they are accused of gaining benefit from something they have never gotten benefit from.


I also loved this statement;

"You can't take a 20th century mind set and apply it to 16th, and 17th century people." I SO agree with that statement. WE HAVE TO LET THE PAST GO ALREADY. It applies to everyone, and everything.

Some whites are forever looking for excuses to say how their group is not responsible. All whites benefited from the laws and policies enacted. And this bullshit about how you can't apply a 20th century mindset to the 17th and 18th centuries is another excuse whites reserve for discussing racism. We apply 20th century mindset to those days all the time. No one makes this excuse when defending whatever the so-called founders believed for one thing. This argument is not about holding on to the past. Some of you whites need to stop lying to yourselves. We are talking about a continuing problem that was created by past and present policy. So what needs to happen is that whites need to end the racism instead of pretending it's gone and a thing of the past.

How the Irish Became White
Art McDonald, Ph.D.

Irish and Africans Americans had lots in common and lots of contact during this period; they lived side by side and shared work spaces. In the early years of immigration the poor Irish and blacks were thrown together, very much part of the same class competing for the same jobs. In the census of 1850, the term mulatto appears for the first time due primarily to inter-marriage between Irish and African Americans. The Irish were often referred to as "Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish." A famous quip of the time attributed to a black man went something like this: "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me like a common Irishman." Free blacks and Irish were viewed by the Nativists as related, somehow similar, performing the same tasks in society. It was felt that if amalgamation between the races was to happen, it would happen between Irish and blacks. But, ultimately, the Irish made the decision to embrace whiteness, thus becoming part of the system which dominated and oppressed blacks. Although it contradicted their experience back home, it meant freedom here since blackness meant slavery.

An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: "Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, 'You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.' The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded."

Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.

And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed "race," Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another "race," Africans in America, in order to secure their place in the white republic.

How the Irish Became White

How do you become “white” in America?
Sarah Kendzior

“Here it is important to understand how, exactly, Americans ‘become white’. The history of Polish-Americans is an illuminating example. Upon arriving in the U.S. en masse in the late 19th and early 20th century, Poles endured discrimination based on their appearance, religion and culture. In 1903, the New England Magazine decried the Poles’ “expressionless Slavic faces” and “stunted figures” as well as their inherent “ignorance” and “propensity to violence”. Working for terrible wages, Polish workers were renamed things like “Thomas Jefferson” by their bigoted Anglo-Saxon bosses who refused to utter Polish names.

The Poles, in other words, were not considered white. Far from it: they were considered a mysterious menace that should be expelled. When Polish-American Leon Czolgosz killed President William McKinley in 1901, all Poles were deemed potential violent anarchists. “All people are mourning, and it is caused by a maniac who is of our nationality,” a Polish-American newspaper wrote, pressured to apologize for their own people. The collective blame of Poles for terrorism bears great similarity to how Muslims (both in the U.S. and Europe) are collectively blamed today.

But then something changed. In 1919, Irish gangs in blackface attacked Polish neighborhoods in Chicago in an attempt to convince Poles, and other Eastern European groups, that they, too, were “white” and should join them in the fight against blacks. As historian David R. Roediger recalls, “Poles argued that the riot was a conflict between blacks and whites, with Poles abstaining because they belonged to neither group.” But the Irish gangs considered whiteness, as is often the case in America, as anti-blackness. And as in the early 20th century Chicago experienced an influx not only of white immigrants from Europe, but blacks from the South, white groups who felt threatened by black arrivals decided that it would be politically advantageous if the Poles were considered white as well.

With that new white identity came the ability to practice the discrimination they had once endured.

Over time, the strategy of positioning Poles as “white” against a dark-skinned “other” was successful. Poles came to consider themselves white, and more importantly, they came to be considered white by their fellow Americans, as did Italians, Greeks, Jews, Russians, and others from Southern and Eastern Europe, all of whom held an ambivalent racial status in U.S. society. Also, intermarriage between white ethnic groups led some to embrace a broader white identity.”

How do you become “white” in America?

You ignore the black slave owners who benefited too. Why?

Because they bought their family members.

Did Black People Own Slaves?
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Henry Louis Gates Jr.

How Many Slaves Did Blacks Own?

So what do the actual numbers of black slave owners and their slaves tell us? In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people. In his essay, " 'The Known World' of Free Black Slaveholders," Thomas J. Pressly, using Woodson's statistics, calculated that 54 (or about 1 percent) of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves; 172 (about 4 percent) owned between 10 to 19 slaves; and 3,550 (about 94 percent) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves. Crucially, 42 percent owned just one slave.

Pressly also shows that the percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia. So why did these free black people own these slaves?

It is reasonable to assume that the 42 percent of the free black slave owners who owned just one slave probably owned a family member to protect that person, as did many of the other black slave owners who owned only slightly larger numbers of slaves. As Woodson put it in 1924's Free Negro Owners of Slaves in the United States in 1830, "The census records show that the majority of the Negro owners of slaves were such from the point of view of philanthropy. In many instances the husband purchased the wife or vice versa … Slaves of Negroes were in some cases the children of a free father who had purchased his wife. If he did not thereafter emancipate the mother, as so many such husbands failed to do, his own children were born his slaves and were thus reported to the numerators."

Moreover, Woodson explains, "Benevolent Negroes often purchased slaves to make their lot easier by granting them their freedom for a nominal sum, or by permitting them to work it out on liberal terms." In other words, these black slave-owners, the clear majority, cleverly used the system of slavery to protect their loved ones.

Don't make statements when you don't know what you are talking about . Disingenuously running your mouth is what you just did.

Well, you can lobby all you want for reparations, but, as my ancestors did not come over till after the civil war, I guess my family doesn't owe shit. The same can be said for a multitude of many Americans. You have no justification for taxing them for such a program.

75% of white Americans did not own slaves in 1860s. Anything whites benefit today, blacks also benefit from. Since IM2 says he is more successful than us, he must be benefitting the most, lol.

 

[IM2]

We are owed more than some words written on a piece of paper.

You are "owed" squat.

IF you are telling the truth, and you have no credibility, slavery ended more than six generations ago. Your grandparents would be ashamed of you believing you are OWED anything.

I am 58. My grandmother on my moms side was born in 1880 and died in 1965. Both my grand fathers were born in the late 1870s. And they would be right in line demanding the money they are owed.

So let me be blunt. White boy, you do not set any standard as to how I see things. Nor do you determine credibility. What you don't believe doesn't matter, nor does it change anything. We are owed money. Trillions. And since YOU have been given everything you have by the government, it's wise that you start understanding that you do not speak for our ancestors.

 

[francoHFW]

Wow. Just any excuse. No matter how stupid it sounds.

YES! NOW YOU ARE STARTING TO GET WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE TO THE FORUM!


Listen, to most Americans, there is nothing more patriotic and proud than the Black American Population. Most black people have ancestors that have been here longer than a majority of white people.

They have fought in more wars, and been a part of more history than a majority of white, Asian, Hispanic and every other ethnic group except those who enslaved them, the English, Welsh, and the Jews.

When the Black Community tear this nation apart, rather than lead as role models? IT IS HEART BREAKING to the rest of our families and ethnic groups which have not been here as long. It causes animosity, hatred, resentment, balkanization, and discord. It is doing exactly the opposite of what I think you want, maybe I am wrong. From what I know of Obama's history as a CIA asset, I KNOW he wanted to do all these things.

Has the Black American population had more than it's fair share of injustice? Why yes, certainly it has. But have we had an Italian President? Or how about a Jewish One? A French One or an Italian One? Nope. Except for Trump and JFK, they have all been ENGLISH, Anglo Saxon WASPS.

Oh yeah, AND OBAMA.

Have we had a Chinese President? Or how about an Eastern European one?

America is a melting pot, we have had crimes against many families and many ethnic groups. It is time to put them in the past and seek justice for all.

The victimization and grievance mongering will not bind the nation together or heal any wounds of the past. As long as you keep this up, you WILL NOT be a leader, nor will you have your ethnic group stand out as a role model for future generations. You will NOT have economic or social justice, I thought that was your goal.

Nor will you convince others that the programs you so desire would benefit THE NATION AS A WHOLE.

Are you seeking this for you and your own community, or for the good of the nation?

If it is the former, you are charging at windmills with your approach friend.

In the same way that the GOP screws over the non rich and the poor, the blacks do even worse with the discrimination. We cannot have a healthy economy with such inequality thanks to the give away to the rich screw everyone else Reagan GOP and its silly dupes.

The Dems have screwed over the middle class worse than gopers have.

Explain that

Pure garbage propaganda like everything you know. The GOP has been in control of tax rates last 30 years and it is a huge giveaway to the rich. Now Newark needs pipes. We haven't spent enough on infrastructure for 30 years either. Or on colleges and education or anything else. We have a flat tax system if you count all taxes and that it's ruining the country.

Oh. Poor, poor child. My dad was a member of the American Communist Party, I have newspapers from 1932 where they go into great detail about how 2% of the population controls 76% of the nation's wealth.

Democrats then took over both Houses of Congress, and held the presidency for 40 CONTINUOUS years.

After all that Democrat rule the result was 1% controlled 90%.

So who were the Dems working for?

Truman gave us the GI Bill and the Marshall plan and a strong free world. And under Johnson and Kennedy everything was fantastic too economically. 1% owning 90% is what we have now.. We have the greatest inequality and worst upward mobility in our history now. That means something. It means we're not taxing the rich enough and investing in infrastructure America and Americans. Especially blacks of course.

THAT WAS THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICA AND REAGAN RUINED IT. ONLY PROPAGANDA MAKES THIS POSSIBLE SUPER DUPER.

 

[MizMolly]

Has Africa apologized for past slavery? Has Africa apologized for its rampant CURRENT slavery? Why is the US singled out to apologize for shit that every nation did, and some still do?

Do you not find your post a false equivalency? I do.

I do someone a wrong...I apologize..are you saying that I should not apologize because other people did the same wrong and did not?

That's a bit wrong-headed, don't you think? You are against an apology...that costs you nothing and could have profound positive effect on the world that you live in.....

Tsk, tsk, tsk.......

I agree with you.

. . . but, in this case, it is an irrelevant discussion. The U.S. has already made a formal apology, and I don't think anyone cares.

Five Times the United States Officially Apologized | Smart News | Smithsonian

"An Apology for Slavery and the Jim Crow laws


Few things compromised the core values of the U.S. Constitution and left as lasting a mark on American society as 246 years of institutionalized slavery and the subsequent discrimination of the Jim Crow laws that marked African-Americans as second-class citizens. As such, few people were more deserving of a formal apology than the millions of black Americans whose ancestors were forcibly brought to this country and had their freedoms stolen from them.


The formal apology for slavery and Jim Crow issued by the U.S. House of Representatives in 2008 was unprecedented, even after decades of lawmakers trying to push the government to finally apologize, NPR reported at the time. In introducing the resolution, Representative Steve Cohen (D-Tenn), noted that despite the government issuing an apology for interning Japanese citizens and later pressuring Japan to apologize for forcing Chinese women to work as sex slaves during World War II, the American government had never formally recognized and apologized for slavery. While the apology was primarily symbolic, by officially recognizing its role in perpetuating the horrors of slavery and Jim Crow, the American government took a step forward in addressing and atoning for one of its greatest wrongs.

"...and no one really cares."

EXACTLY! Its meaningless nonsense.

I was unaware, but now that i know..I care---sad that is was not publicized more. Or sad that it meant little. Maybe just sad..because words can be empty with out-action..but I'm glad that we did it.....

Why are you glad? Why did you want it so much? It obviously meant nothing.

The reason it meant nothing, in case you were wondering, is because WE DIDNT ENSLAVE ANYONE! How can I apologize for shit some other dude did 150 years ago? It's dumb, and quite frankly shitty for people to put that on anyone alive today, yet we see it thrown in peoples faces constantly.

True, and most whites didn’t own slaves. They worked hard on their own to raise their families.

 

[MizMolly]

We are owed more than some words written on a piece of paper.

You are "owed" squat.

IF you are telling the truth, and you have no credibility, slavery ended more than six generations ago. Your grandparents would be ashamed of you believing you are OWED anything.

I am 58. My grandmother on my moms side was born in 1880 and died in 1965. Both my grand fathers were born in the late 1870s. And they would be right in line demanding the money they are owed.

So let me be blunt. White boy, you do not set any standard as to how I see things. Nor do you determine credibility. What you don't believe doesn't matter, nor does it change anything. We are owed money. Trillions. And since YOU have been given everything you have by the government, it's wise that you start understanding that you do not speak for our ancestors.

We are owed more than some words written on a piece of paper.

You are "owed" squat.

IF you are telling the truth, and you have no credibility, slavery ended more than six generations ago. Your grandparents would be ashamed of you believing you are OWED anything.

I am 58. My grandmother on my moms side was born in 1880 and died in 1965. Both my grand fathers were born in the late 1870s. And they would be right in line demanding the money they are owed.

So let me be blunt. White boy, you do not set any standard as to how I see things. Nor do you determine credibility. What you don't believe doesn't matter, nor does it change anything. We are owed money. Trillions. And since YOU have been given everything you have by the government, it's wise that you start understanding that you do not speak for our ancestors.

Given everything by the government? Do your lies ever stop?

 

[MizMolly]

Atlantic Slave Trade: Fallacy of Blacks selling Blacks

How is any of this relevant today? Other than as excuses.

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

To be racist you have to believe a certain race is inferior and discriminate against them. Not do you just hate another race. That is the brand new stupid Republican propaganda definition. The race is on here are trying to prove that African society culture are inferior. It's pretty obvious any chance they had was wrecked by white slave traders and colonists.... And they did have plenty of culture and civilization oh, you people are just brainwashed ignoramuses. Mario Cuomo said Ronald Reagan made blaming the poor acceptable. So you can blame the blacks even more. Pathetic. And now we have the white supremacist in Chief super dupe in the White House. Only propaganda total garbage makes this mess possible....

If you have noticed, IM2 calls virtually all white posters racists for disagreeing with him.

 

[Asclepias]

Do you not find your post a false equivalency? I do.

I do someone a wrong...I apologize..are you saying that I should not apologize because other people did the same wrong and did not?

That's a bit wrong-headed, don't you think? You are against an apology...that costs you nothing and could have profound positive effect on the world that you live in.....

Tsk, tsk, tsk.......

I agree with you.

. . . but, in this case, it is an irrelevant discussion. The U.S. has already made a formal apology, and I don't think anyone cares.

Five Times the United States Officially Apologized | Smart News | Smithsonian

"An Apology for Slavery and the Jim Crow laws


Few things compromised the core values of the U.S. Constitution and left as lasting a mark on American society as 246 years of institutionalized slavery and the subsequent discrimination of the Jim Crow laws that marked African-Americans as second-class citizens. As such, few people were more deserving of a formal apology than the millions of black Americans whose ancestors were forcibly brought to this country and had their freedoms stolen from them.


The formal apology for slavery and Jim Crow issued by the U.S. House of Representatives in 2008 was unprecedented, even after decades of lawmakers trying to push the government to finally apologize, NPR reported at the time. In introducing the resolution, Representative Steve Cohen (D-Tenn), noted that despite the government issuing an apology for interning Japanese citizens and later pressuring Japan to apologize for forcing Chinese women to work as sex slaves during World War II, the American government had never formally recognized and apologized for slavery. While the apology was primarily symbolic, by officially recognizing its role in perpetuating the horrors of slavery and Jim Crow, the American government took a step forward in addressing and atoning for one of its greatest wrongs.

"...and no one really cares."

EXACTLY! Its meaningless nonsense.

I was unaware, but now that i know..I care---sad that is was not publicized more. Or sad that it meant little. Maybe just sad..because words can be empty with out-action..but I'm glad that we did it.....

Why are you glad? Why did you want it so much? It obviously meant nothing.

The reason it meant nothing, in case you were wondering, is because WE DIDNT ENSLAVE ANYONE! How can I apologize for shit some other dude did 150 years ago? It's dumb, and quite frankly shitty for people to put that on anyone alive today, yet we see it thrown in peoples faces constantly.

True, and most whites didn’t own slaves. They worked hard on their own to raise their families.

They also worked hard to practice racism, lynch Blacks, and rape Black women and girls.

 

[IM2]

Atlantic Slave Trade: Fallacy of Blacks selling Blacks

How is any of this relevant today? Other than as excuses.

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

Another butthurt racist crying because his racist argument was rendered to ashes. So he calls me a racist as if it's actually so because he makes a claim.

Your arguments are fantasy, dude. In other words they don't matter.

You guys remind of these religious nutjobs trying to control snakes.

Our arguments are supported by the facts we have shown to your face. The fantasy is your argument. Well actually it's more like a delusion. You've been shown that everything you have believed in your life is a lie. Instead of accepting the facts, you want to flail and kick like a 3 year old when it's told it can't have something. Your entire life has been fake news son.

 

[Markle]

You are a racist.

 

[MizMolly]

How is any of this relevant today? Other than as excuses.

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

To be racist you have to believe a certain race is inferior and discriminate against them. Not do you just hate another race. That is the brand new stupid Republican propaganda definition. The race is on here are trying to prove that African society culture are inferior. It's pretty obvious any chance they had was wrecked by white slave traders and colonists.... And they did have plenty of culture and civilization oh, you people are just brainwashed ignoramuses. Mario Cuomo said Ronald Reagan made blaming the poor acceptable. So you can blame the blacks even more. Pathetic. And now we have the white supremacist in Chief super dupe in the White House. Only propaganda total garbage makes this mess possible....

I agree, and im2 regularly claims the white devil is inferior to blacks, as do asslpis, and paul essien. Essien even went so far as to claim that whites can be killed because they are inferior.

I hate no race, and KNOW that no race is superior to any other.

They don't.

I have not seen any of that. They seem to be talkin equality all the way.

Paul Essen admitted that he is racist.

 

[Asclepias]

What's the title of this thread dumbass? And don't say shit about excuses. Because you racists come with ready made excuses.

Says the most racist moron on the Board.

To be racist you have to believe a certain race is inferior and discriminate against them. Not do you just hate another race. That is the brand new stupid Republican propaganda definition. The race is on here are trying to prove that African society culture are inferior. It's pretty obvious any chance they had was wrecked by white slave traders and colonists.... And they did have plenty of culture and civilization oh, you people are just brainwashed ignoramuses. Mario Cuomo said Ronald Reagan made blaming the poor acceptable. So you can blame the blacks even more. Pathetic. And now we have the white supremacist in Chief super dupe in the White House. Only propaganda total garbage makes this mess possible....

I agree, and im2 regularly claims the white devil is inferior to blacks, as do asslpis, and paul essien. Essien even went so far as to claim that whites can be killed because they are inferior.

I hate no race, and KNOW that no race is superior to any other.

They don't.

I have not seen any of that. They seem to be talkin equality all the way.

Paul Essen admitted that he is racist.

I think he meant...like me..he didnt care if someone called him a racist. From what I recall he doesnt believe its possible for a Black person to be racist in a society dominated by whites.

 

[francoHFW]

Wow. Just any excuse. No matter how stupid it sounds.

YES! NOW YOU ARE STARTING TO GET WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE TO THE FORUM!


Listen, to most Americans, there is nothing more patriotic and proud than the Black American Population. Most black people have ancestors that have been here longer than a majority of white people.

They have fought in more wars, and been a part of more history than a majority of white, Asian, Hispanic and every other ethnic group except those who enslaved them, the English, Welsh, and the Jews.

When the Black Community tear this nation apart, rather than lead as role models? IT IS HEART BREAKING to the rest of our families and ethnic groups which have not been here as long. It causes animosity, hatred, resentment, balkanization, and discord. It is doing exactly the opposite of what I think you want, maybe I am wrong. From what I know of Obama's history as a CIA asset, I KNOW he wanted to do all these things.

Has the Black American population had more than it's fair share of injustice? Why yes, certainly it has. But have we had an Italian President? Or how about a Jewish One? A French One or an Italian One? Nope. Except for Trump and JFK, they have all been ENGLISH, Anglo Saxon WASPS.

Oh yeah, AND OBAMA.

Have we had a Chinese President? Or how about an Eastern European one?

America is a melting pot, we have had crimes against many families and many ethnic groups. It is time to put them in the past and seek justice for all.

The victimization and grievance mongering will not bind the nation together or heal any wounds of the past. As long as you keep this up, you WILL NOT be a leader, nor will you have your ethnic group stand out as a role model for future generations. You will NOT have economic or social justice, I thought that was your goal.

Nor will you convince others that the programs you so desire would benefit THE NATION AS A WHOLE.

Are you seeking this for you and your own community, or for the good of the nation?

If it is the former, you are charging at windmills with your approach friend.

In the same way that the GOP screws over the non rich and the poor, the blacks do even worse with the discrimination. We cannot have a healthy economy with such inequality thanks to the give away to the rich screw everyone else Reagan GOP and its silly dupes.

The Dems have screwed over the middle class worse than gopers have.

Explain that

Pure garbage propaganda like everything you know. The GOP has been in control of tax rates last 30 years and it is a huge giveaway to the rich. Now Newark needs pipes. We haven't spent enough on infrastructure for 30 years either. Or on colleges and education or anything else. We have a flat tax system if you count all taxes and that it's ruining the country.

Oh. Poor, poor child. My dad was a member of the American Communist Party, I have newspapers from 1932 where they go into great detail about how 2% of the population controls 76% of the nation's wealth.

Democrats then took over both Houses of Congress, and held the presidency for 40 CONTINUOUS years.

After all that Democrat rule the result was 1% controlled 90%.

So who were the Dems working for?

What about Eisenhower -and Nixon was after 30 some years....I also don't like the GOP that has a corrupt bubble and bust every time they get eight years in the White House and to corrupt World depressions. Not to mention the stupidest Wars ever allowing 911 through sheer incompetence oh, and the worst inequality and upward Mobility ever anywhere by far now.