Another lie debunked-Africans did nothing before the white man

[MizMolly]

True, and most whites didn’t own slaves. They worked hard on their own to raise their families.

They also worked hard to practice racism, lynch Blacks, and rape Black women and girls.

If all whites did this blacks would not have been freed. You apparently don’t believe white people can be good, hard working and not racist.

Of course all whites havent done this. Hell one of my heroes is John Brown. He is a white guy that gave his life to free Blacks. I have whites in my family so I am very aware that not all whites are racists. However, that doesnt mean that most whites are not racists. Look at the support this latest clown has thats in office from racists. I even predicted this.

I dont believe most whites are racist. I dislike a Trump. Your comment about what whites worked hard at was uncalled for. There is bad and good in every race. Yes, there are black racists.

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

 

[Asclepias]

"When I looked at the statue of Amenhotep III, I agreed with two officers of
the establishment, both competent judges, that he had a strongly marked Negro type of
features."
-Charles Darwin

 

[MizMolly]

I have never been racist. I have never said anything racist. IM2 has called me racist several times.

I have observed that you support racists and their ideologies on more than a few occasions. What would you call someone that supports racists and racism?

Where have I supported racists or racism? Total bullshit.

I'd have to go back and look.

You won’t find where I sided or agreed with anything a racists posted.

I dont feel like going back but I will definitely point it out to you when I see it again.

If you do, then you need your eyes checked or you will be making up a new definition of the word.

 

[Asclepias]

They also worked hard to practice racism, lynch Blacks, and rape Black women and girls.

If all whites did this blacks would not have been freed. You apparently don’t believe white people can be good, hard working and not racist.

Of course all whites havent done this. Hell one of my heroes is John Brown. He is a white guy that gave his life to free Blacks. I have whites in my family so I am very aware that not all whites are racists. However, that doesnt mean that most whites are not racists. Look at the support this latest clown has thats in office from racists. I even predicted this.

I dont believe most whites are racist. I dislike a Trump. Your comment about what whites worked hard at was uncalled for. There is bad and good in every race. Yes, there are black racists.

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

 

[MizMolly]

If all whites did this blacks would not have been freed. You apparently don’t believe white people can be good, hard working and not racist.

Of course all whites havent done this. Hell one of my heroes is John Brown. He is a white guy that gave his life to free Blacks. I have whites in my family so I am very aware that not all whites are racists. However, that doesnt mean that most whites are not racists. Look at the support this latest clown has thats in office from racists. I even predicted this.

I dont believe most whites are racist. I dislike a Trump. Your comment about what whites worked hard at was uncalled for. There is bad and good in every race. Yes, there are black racists.

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

 

[IM2]

So the same idiot that tried the old worn out Anthony Johnson hoax brings us this one:

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5 Myths About Slavery
Find out the truth behind five common myths or misunderstandings about slavery in the United States.
Author: Sarah Pruitt
1. Myth #1: There were Irish slaves in the American colonies.
As historian and public librarian Liam Hogan has written: “There is unanimous agreement, based on overwhelming evidence, that the Irish were never subjected to perpetual, hereditary slavery in the colonies, based on notions of ‘race’.” The enduring myth of Irish slavery, which most often surfaces today in service of Irish nationalist and white supremacist causes, has roots in the 17th and 18th centuries, when Irish laborers were derogatorily called “white slaves.” The phrase would later be employed as propaganda by the slave-owning South about the industrialized North, along with (false) claims that life was far harder for immigrant factory workers than for slaves.

What’s the truth? Large numbers of indentured servants did indeed emigrate from Ireland to the British colonies of North America, where they provided a cheap labor force for planters and merchants eager to exploit it. Though most crossed the Atlantic willingly, some Irish men and women—including criminals as well as simply the poor and vulnerable—were sentenced to indentured servitude in Ireland, and forcibly shipped to the colonies to carry out their sentences. But indentured servitude, by definition, came nowhere close to chattel slavery. For one thing, it was temporary; all but the most serious felons were freed at the end of their contracts. The colonial system also offered more lenient punishment for disobedient servants than slaves, and allowed servants to petition for early release if their masters mistreated them. Most importantly, servitude wasn’t hereditary. Children of indentured servants were born free; slaves’ children were the property of their owners.

2. Myth #2: The South seceded from the Union over the issue of states’ rights, not slavery.
This myth, that the Civil War wasn’t fundamentally a conflict over slavery, would have been a surprise to the original founders of the Confederacy. In the official declaration of the causes of their secession in December 1860, South Carolina’s delegates cited “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery.” According to them, the Northern interference with the return of fugitive slaves was violating their constitutional obligations; they also complained that some states in New England tolerated abolitionist societies and allowed black men to vote.

As James W. Loewen, author of “Lies My Teacher Told Me” and “The Confederate and Neo-Confederate Reader,” wrote in the Washington Post: “In fact, Confederates opposed states’ rights—that is, the right of Northern states not to support slavery.” The idea that the war was somehow not about slavery but about the issue of states’ rights was perpetuated by later generations anxious to redefine their ancestors’ sacrifices as a noble protection of the Southern way of life. At the time, however, Southerners had no problem claiming the protection of slavery as the cause of their break with the Union.

3. Myth #3: Only a small percentage of Southerners owned slaves.
Closely related to Myth #2, the idea that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were men of modest means rather than large plantation owners is usually used to reinforce the contention that the South wouldn’t have gone to war to protect slavery. The 1860 census shows that in the states that would soon secede from the Union, an average of more than 32 percent of white families owned slaves. Some states had far more slave owners (46 percent in South Carolina, 49 percent in Mississippi) while some had far less (20 percent in Arkansas).

out in Slate, the percentages don’t fully express the extent to which the antebellum South was a slave society, built on a foundation of slavery. Many of those white families who couldn’t afford slaves aspired to, as a symbol of wealth and prosperity. In addition, the essential ideology of white supremacy that served as a rationale for slavery, made it extremely difficult—and terrifying—for white Southerners to imagine life alongside a black majority population that was not in bondage. In this way, many non-slave-owning Confederates went to war to protect not only slavery, but to preserve the foundation of the only way of life they knew.

4. Myth #4: The Union went to war to end slavery.
On the Northern side, the rose-colored myth of the Civil War is that the blue-clad Union soldiers and their brave, doomed leader, Abraham Lincoln, were fighting to free the slaves. They weren’t, at least not initially; they were fighting to hold the nation together. Lincoln was known to personally oppose slavery (which is why the South seceded after his election in 1860), but his chief goal was preserving the Union. In August 1862, he famously wrote to the New York Tribune: “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that.”

The slaves themselves helped make the case for emancipation as a military aim, fleeing in droves beyond the lines of approaching Union armies. Early in the conflict, some of Lincoln’s generals helped the president understand that sending these men and women back to bondage could only help the Confederate cause. By the fall of 1862, Lincoln had become convinced that acting to end slavery was a necessary step. A month after his letter to Greeley, Lincoln announced the Emancipation Proclamation, which would take effect in January 1863. More a practical wartime measure than a true liberation, it proclaimed free all slaves in the rebel states, but not those in the border slavery states, which Lincoln needed to remain loyal to the Union.

5. Myth #5: Black soldiers—slave and free—fought for the Confederacy.
This argument, a staple among those seeking to redefine the conflict as an abstract battle over states’ rights rather than a fight to preserve slavery, does not hold up. White officers in the Confederacy did indeed bring slaves to the front during the Civil War, where they cooked, cleaned and performed other labors for the officers and their regiments. But there’s no evidence to suggest that significant numbers of black soldiers fought under the Confederate banner against Union soldiers.

In fact, until March 1865, Confederate Army policy specifically prohibited blacks from serving as soldiers. Some Confederate officers wanted to enlist slaves earlier: Gen. Patrick Cleburne proposed enlisting African-American soldiers early in 1864, but Jefferson Davis rejected the suggestion and ordered it never to be discussed again. Finally, in the last weeks of the conflict, the Confederate government gave in to Gen. Robert E. Lee’s desperate plea for more men, allowing slaves to enlist in exchange for some kind of post-war freedom. A small number signed up for training, but there’s no evidence they saw action before the war’s end.

https://www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery

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[Asclepias]

Of course all whites havent done this. Hell one of my heroes is John Brown. He is a white guy that gave his life to free Blacks. I have whites in my family so I am very aware that not all whites are racists. However, that doesnt mean that most whites are not racists. Look at the support this latest clown has thats in office from racists. I even predicted this.

I dont believe most whites are racist. I dislike a Trump. Your comment about what whites worked hard at was uncalled for. There is bad and good in every race. Yes, there are black racists.

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I think you do. Refresh my memory. Are you for reparations for Blacks that are descended from enslaved Africans? If youre not then you are supporting the racist reasons that are keeping the financial benefits earned by our ancestors from being put to good use in our communities.. In any other situation whites would support monetary damages being awarded to people and their descendants harmed (financially, physically, and emotionally). Most whites dont support it for Blacks and give all types of irrational reasons for it.

 

[MizMolly]

I dont believe most whites are racist. I dislike a Trump. Your comment about what whites worked hard at was uncalled for. There is bad and good in every race. Yes, there are black racists.

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I think you do. Refresh my memory. Are you for reparations for Blacks that are descended from enslaved Africans? If youre not then you are supporting the racist reasons that are keeping the financial benefits earned by our ancestors from being put to good use in our communities.. In any other situation whites would support monetary damages being awarded to people and their descendants harmed (financially, physically, and emotionally). Most whites dont support it and give all types of irrational reasons for it.

You think by disagreeing on reparations that I am racist? Lol. There are black people who don’t agree with reparations. There are many reasons why I don’t agree with the concept. My reasons aren’t irrational. Not all blacks had slave ancestors. Very few whites had slave owning ancestors. It would probably be next to impossible to even decide who gets reparations, how much, etc. where would this money come from?

 

[francoHFW]

Why are you glad? Why did you want it so much? It obviously meant nothing.

The reason it meant nothing, in case you were wondering, is because WE DIDNT ENSLAVE ANYONE! How can I apologize for shit some other dude did 150 years ago? It's dumb, and quite frankly shitty for people to put that on anyone alive today, yet we see it thrown in peoples faces constantly.

True, and most whites didn’t own slaves. They worked hard on their own to raise their families.

They also worked hard to practice racism, lynch Blacks, and rape Black women and girls.

If all whites did this blacks would not have been freed. You apparently don’t believe white people can be good, hard working and not racist.

If they aren't Republicans.... LOL

I hate politics and politicians

And yet believe the GOP is the answer right? Ignorance is their biggest Ally

 

[Asclepias]

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I think you do. Refresh my memory. Are you for reparations for Blacks that are descended from enslaved Africans? If youre not then you are supporting the racist reasons that are keeping the financial benefits earned by our ancestors from being put to good use in our communities.. In any other situation whites would support monetary damages being awarded to people and their descendants harmed (financially, physically, and emotionally). Most whites dont support it and give all types of irrational reasons for it.

You think by disagreeing on reparations that I am racist? Lol. There are black people who don’t agree with reparations. There are many reasons why I don’t agree with the concept. My reasons aren’t irrational. Not all blacks had slave ancestors. Very few whites had slave owning ancestors. It would probably be next to impossible to even decide who gets reparations, how much, etc. where would this money come from?

Yes I do think that makes you a racist. I dont think youre out running KKK rallies but a racist nonetheless. Blacks that disagree with reparations fall into two categories. Either they are trying to appease whites or they simply want nothing to do with whites and their money. The latter I think are selfish because like I said that money can be used to better our communities. Either you misread what I said or you are indeed being irrational. I didnt say all Blacks had ancestors that were enslaved. I specifically said "descended from enslaved Africans". You dont have worry about how hard it is and thats not even a rational excuse. Thats merely another irrational reason. The money would come for the same place reparations for the Japanese came from.

 

[Slyhunter]

My ancestors were part Indian, pay me reparations even though I look as white as Pocahontas does.

 

[francoHFW]

Why are you glad? Why did you want it so much? It obviously meant nothing.

The reason it meant nothing, in case you were wondering, is because WE DIDNT ENSLAVE ANYONE! How can I apologize for shit some other dude did 150 years ago? It's dumb, and quite frankly shitty for people to put that on anyone alive today, yet we see it thrown in peoples faces constantly.

True, and most whites didn’t own slaves. They worked hard on their own to raise their families.

They also worked hard to practice racism, lynch Blacks, and rape Black women and girls.

If all whites did this blacks would not have been freed. You apparently don’t believe white people can be good, hard working and not racist.

If they aren't Republicans.... LOL

I hate politics and politicians

You might be in the wrong place LOL

 

[MizMolly]

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I think you do. Refresh my memory. Are you for reparations for Blacks that are descended from enslaved Africans? If youre not then you are supporting the racist reasons that are keeping the financial benefits earned by our ancestors from being put to good use in our communities.. In any other situation whites would support monetary damages being awarded to people and their descendants harmed (financially, physically, and emotionally). Most whites dont support it and give all types of irrational reasons for it.

You think by disagreeing on reparations that I am racist? Lol. There are black people who don’t agree with reparations. There are many reasons why I don’t agree with the concept. My reasons aren’t irrational. Not all blacks had slave ancestors. Very few whites had slave owning ancestors. It would probably be next to impossible to even decide who gets reparations, how much, etc. where would this money come from?

Yes I do think that makes you a racist. I dont think youre out running KKK rallies but a racist nonetheless. Blacks that disagree with reparations fall into two categories. Either they are trying to appease whites or they simply want nothing to do with whites and their money. The latter I think are selfish because like I said that money can be used to better our communities. Either you misread what I said or you are indeed being irrational. I didnt say all Blacks had ancestors that were enslaved. I specifically said "descended from enslaved Africans". You dont have worry about how hard it is and thats not an excuse. Thats merely another irrational reason.

Blacks call whites racist without merit. And yet they don’t consider it racist when they despise and hate whites just for being white. You are entitled to your own opinion of people you ASSume are racist. I know I am not. We agree to disagree.

 

[Markle]

First of all thats not Anthony Johnson dumbass. Youve been Drumpfed by a meme.

WOW, not his picture. WHO KNEW? Are the FACTS true or false?

Anthony Johnson (b. c. 1600 – d. 1670) was a black Angolan known for achieving freedom and wealth in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia. He was one of the first African American property owners and had his right to legally own a slave recognized by the Virginia courts.

 

[Asclepias]

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I think you do. Refresh my memory. Are you for reparations for Blacks that are descended from enslaved Africans? If youre not then you are supporting the racist reasons that are keeping the financial benefits earned by our ancestors from being put to good use in our communities.. In any other situation whites would support monetary damages being awarded to people and their descendants harmed (financially, physically, and emotionally). Most whites dont support it and give all types of irrational reasons for it.

You think by disagreeing on reparations that I am racist? Lol. There are black people who don’t agree with reparations. There are many reasons why I don’t agree with the concept. My reasons aren’t irrational. Not all blacks had slave ancestors. Very few whites had slave owning ancestors. It would probably be next to impossible to even decide who gets reparations, how much, etc. where would this money come from?

Yes I do think that makes you a racist. I dont think youre out running KKK rallies but a racist nonetheless. Blacks that disagree with reparations fall into two categories. Either they are trying to appease whites or they simply want nothing to do with whites and their money. The latter I think are selfish because like I said that money can be used to better our communities. Either you misread what I said or you are indeed being irrational. I didnt say all Blacks had ancestors that were enslaved. I specifically said "descended from enslaved Africans". You dont have worry about how hard it is and thats not an excuse. Thats merely another irrational reason.

Blacks call whites racist without merit. And yet they don’t consider it racist when the despise and hate whites just for being white. You are entitled to your own opinion of people you ASSume are racist. I know I am not. We agree to disagree.

"Merit" is subjective and as I said before a Black person cannot be a racist in a society dominated by the race imposing the racist system. I read something today that has convinced me that communication is too difficult a barrier to overcome when people are speaking different languages. The emotional and literal meanings have to be agreed upon or at least understood by both sides in order to have a conversation that becomes productive.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course all whites havent done this. Hell one of my heroes is John Brown. He is a white guy that gave his life to free Blacks. I have whites in my family so I am very aware that not all whites are racists. However, that doesnt mean that most whites are not racists. Look at the support this latest clown has thats in office from racists. I even predicted this.

I dont believe most whites are racist. I dislike a Trump. Your comment about what whites worked hard at was uncalled for. There is bad and good in every race. Yes, there are black racists.

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I believe you agreed that African culture was not so respectable....the point here is that white slave trader and colonists wrecked whatever they did have and we've only started looking into it the last 30 years or so archaeologists etc. Google sub-Saharan African empires....

 

[Asclepias]

First of all thats not Anthony Johnson dumbass. Youve been Drumpfed by a meme.

WOW, not his picture. WHO KNEW? Are the FACTS true or false?

Anthony Johnson (b. c. 1600 – d. 1670) was a black Angolan known for achieving freedom and wealth in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia. He was one of the first African American property owners and had his right to legally own a slave recognized by the Virginia courts.

No the facts are not true. He wasnt the first slave owner in the americas or whatever bullshit claim your meme made.

 

[MizMolly]

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I think you do. Refresh my memory. Are you for reparations for Blacks that are descended from enslaved Africans? If youre not then you are supporting the racist reasons that are keeping the financial benefits earned by our ancestors from being put to good use in our communities.. In any other situation whites would support monetary damages being awarded to people and their descendants harmed (financially, physically, and emotionally). Most whites dont support it and give all types of irrational reasons for it.

You think by disagreeing on reparations that I am racist? Lol. There are black people who don’t agree with reparations. There are many reasons why I don’t agree with the concept. My reasons aren’t irrational. Not all blacks had slave ancestors. Very few whites had slave owning ancestors. It would probably be next to impossible to even decide who gets reparations, how much, etc. where would this money come from?

Yes I do think that makes you a racist. I dont think youre out running KKK rallies but a racist nonetheless. Blacks that disagree with reparations fall into two categories. Either they are trying to appease whites or they simply want nothing to do with whites and their money. The latter I think are selfish because like I said that money can be used to better our communities. Either you misread what I said or you are indeed being irrational. I didnt say all Blacks had ancestors that were enslaved. I specifically said "descended from enslaved Africans". You dont have worry about how hard it is and thats not an excuse. Thats merely another irrational reason.

Blacks call whites racist without merit. And yet they don’t consider it racist when the despise and hate whites just for being white. You are entitled to your own opinion of people you ASSume are racist. I know I am not. We agree to disagree.

"Merit" is subjective and as I said before a Black person cannot be a racist in a society dominated by the race imposing the racist system. I read something today that has convinced me that communication is too difficult a barrier to overcome when people are speaking different languages. The emotional and literal meanings have to be agreed upon or at least understood by both sides in order to have a conversation that becomes productive.

Excuses that fail. Blacks can be and are racist. A system does not define who is racist. I wield no power or authority to dominate anybody, I do not belong to a system. Which specific racist system are you referring to? Racists are individuals, not systems.

 

[MizMolly]

I dont believe most whites are racist. I dislike a Trump. Your comment about what whites worked hard at was uncalled for. There is bad and good in every race. Yes, there are black racists.

You dont have run around in a KKK clown suit to be a racist. There are white people that havent even realized they are racist yet.

Lol. Just how do you define it?

I define a racist as someone that contributes to a system that is based on race (where their racial group is dominant and benefits) through their actions and speech regardless of if they realize it or not.

I do not fit in this description. Disagreeing with someone is not being racist. I disagree with IM2 quite often.

I believe you agreed that African culture was not so respectable....the point here is that white slave trader and colonists wrecked whatever they did have and we've only started looking into it the last 30 years or so archaeologists etc. Google sub-Saharan African empires....

You are mistaken. I did not agree or disagree or even comment on African culture.

 

[Asclepias]

I think you do. Refresh my memory. Are you for reparations for Blacks that are descended from enslaved Africans? If youre not then you are supporting the racist reasons that are keeping the financial benefits earned by our ancestors from being put to good use in our communities.. In any other situation whites would support monetary damages being awarded to people and their descendants harmed (financially, physically, and emotionally). Most whites dont support it and give all types of irrational reasons for it.

You think by disagreeing on reparations that I am racist? Lol. There are black people who don’t agree with reparations. There are many reasons why I don’t agree with the concept. My reasons aren’t irrational. Not all blacks had slave ancestors. Very few whites had slave owning ancestors. It would probably be next to impossible to even decide who gets reparations, how much, etc. where would this money come from?

Yes I do think that makes you a racist. I dont think youre out running KKK rallies but a racist nonetheless. Blacks that disagree with reparations fall into two categories. Either they are trying to appease whites or they simply want nothing to do with whites and their money. The latter I think are selfish because like I said that money can be used to better our communities. Either you misread what I said or you are indeed being irrational. I didnt say all Blacks had ancestors that were enslaved. I specifically said "descended from enslaved Africans". You dont have worry about how hard it is and thats not an excuse. Thats merely another irrational reason.

Blacks call whites racist without merit. And yet they don’t consider it racist when the despise and hate whites just for being white. You are entitled to your own opinion of people you ASSume are racist. I know I am not. We agree to disagree.

"Merit" is subjective and as I said before a Black person cannot be a racist in a society dominated by the race imposing the racist system. I read something today that has convinced me that communication is too difficult a barrier to overcome when people are speaking different languages. The emotional and literal meanings have to be agreed upon or at least understood by both sides in order to have a conversation that becomes productive.

Excuses that fail. Blacks can be and are racist. A system does not define who is racist. I wield no power or authority to dominate anybody, I do not belong to a system. Which specific racist system are you referring to? Racists are individuals, not systems.

Correct Racists are individuals. Put those racist individuals together and they create racist systems. Without power this is impossible. A Black person can be prejudiced but not racist.