Another Lie debunked-IG report concludes FBI did not spy on trump campaign

[edward37]

Sure, we can talk about those errors. The IG said that they had no bearing on the overall investigation and that it was legally started. The errors do not change the fact that there was nothing untoward about the "oranges" of the Russia Investigation and that the FBI did their jobs when we were being threatened by an adversary and people within the Trump campaign had numerous contacts with those adversaries.

We can focus all day on the tree so poor Fishy wont realize there is an entire forrest around that one little tree.

The Barr/ Durham investigation is about to wrap up, lets wait for that. In the meantime lets review the FACT that Horowitz was an Obama appointee. I don't know if he has political motives, but we are entitled to know, don't you think?

In the meantime lets focus on the good economy, our once again strong capable military, and the very low unemployment rates around this Christmas season. the country is doing great, I give Trump some of the credit, you can credit obozo the kenyan if you want, but if you do that you also have to credit Bush.

Wait, but that's what you said about THIS report. This, the non partisan, inspector general report. We couldn't trust the FBI review, we had to see THIS one. Now that this report backs up the FBI review we have to wait for a report from a partisan Roy Cohn? Do you even take yourself seriously?

Why would I have to credit anyone for the economy Barack Obama turned around? By every metric, the economy performed better under Obama than Bush and Trump. Trump is just maintaining that good economy he was given...for now.

By every metric? Really! Did you want to point out the exact time that Barry set records for the lowest unemployment rates since they started keeping that stat, Seawytch?

He started the ball rolling 75 straight months of 6 digit employment gains will do that

Oh, are we playing "Fun with Statistics" now? Barack Obama oversaw the worst recovery from a recession since FDR and The Great Depression!

Yeah those 75 straight months of 6 digit employment gains and dropping the unemployment rate from 10 to 4 was a bad thing

 

[OKTexas]

"Mandatory spending" is about 70% of the federal budget. Medicare is about a third of that.

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So roughly a quarter of all government spending. It’s a trillion dollar deficit. If you want to eliminate the deficit without raising taxes, it’ll be cut.

Possibly, but when medicare was originally passed very few people lived long enough to ever collect on it, with life spans increasing, perhaps the eligibility age should be increased, people are working longer than ever before. The same applies to social security.

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I don’t know if you know many working class folks but they work hard. Their bodies get worn out. Just because average age has increased doesn’t mean everyone can just decide to work longer.

So now you want to move the goal posts and drag in disabled people to the conversation? Don't think I'll go there, we're far enough off topic already.

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Who said anything about disabled? I am just talking about people that have been working hard and are worn out. The kind of people you think don’t deserve to retire at 65, now wait 67 now.

Many aren't planning to retire until their 70s, may brother plans to work to 72. I chose to retire at 59. The point is these programs were never intended to pay out for 20-30+ years. Now get back on the topic of the thread.

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[Oldstyle]

Why do you liberals even TRY arguing the merits of Barack Obama's economic programs? When you really examine them Barry comes off looking like the clueless community organizer that he was!

 

[colfax_m]

Wait, but that's what you said about THIS report. This, the non partisan, inspector general report. We couldn't trust the FBI review, we had to see THIS one. Now that this report backs up the FBI review we have to wait for a report from a partisan Roy Cohn? Do you even take yourself seriously?

Why would I have to credit anyone for the economy Barack Obama turned around? By every metric, the economy performed better under Obama than Bush and Trump. Trump is just maintaining that good economy he was given...for now.

By every metric? Really! Did you want to point out the exact time that Barry set records for the lowest unemployment rates since they started keeping that stat, Seawytch?

Obama left Trump with an unemployment rate of 4.7% and a consistently growing economy.

Talk about being born on third base and saying you hit a home run.

Did you want to show us all that point in the Obama Presidency where unemployment numbers hit record lows, Colfax? I can show you where that occurred in the Trump Presidency. Gee, talk about talking shit you can't back up!

Next you’ll tell us Trump is a self made millionaire. He never had any help from anyone.

Whoa...nice try at changing the subject, Colfax! LOL

It’s a lot easier to have record unemployment when you come into office and the unemployment rate is already one of the lowest in 50 years.

 

[colfax_m]

So roughly a quarter of all government spending. It’s a trillion dollar deficit. If you want to eliminate the deficit without raising taxes, it’ll be cut.

Possibly, but when medicare was originally passed very few people lived long enough to ever collect on it, with life spans increasing, perhaps the eligibility age should be increased, people are working longer than ever before. The same applies to social security.

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I don’t know if you know many working class folks but they work hard. Their bodies get worn out. Just because average age has increased doesn’t mean everyone can just decide to work longer.

So now you want to move the goal posts and drag in disabled people to the conversation? Don't think I'll go there, we're far enough off topic already.

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Who said anything about disabled? I am just talking about people that have been working hard and are worn out. The kind of people you think don’t deserve to retire at 65, now wait 67 now.

Many aren't planning to retire until their 70s, may brother plans to work to 72. I chose to retire at 59. The point is these programs were never intended to pay out for 20-30+ years. Now get back on the topic of the thread.

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Like I said. Cut taxes for the rich and cut benefits for the working class.

I won’t derail the thread any further. Sorry.

 

[Oldstyle]

The Barr/ Durham investigation is about to wrap up, lets wait for that. In the meantime lets review the FACT that Horowitz was an Obama appointee. I don't know if he has political motives, but we are entitled to know, don't you think?

In the meantime lets focus on the good economy, our once again strong capable military, and the very low unemployment rates around this Christmas season. the country is doing great, I give Trump some of the credit, you can credit obozo the kenyan if you want, but if you do that you also have to credit Bush.

Wait, but that's what you said about THIS report. This, the non partisan, inspector general report. We couldn't trust the FBI review, we had to see THIS one. Now that this report backs up the FBI review we have to wait for a report from a partisan Roy Cohn? Do you even take yourself seriously?

Why would I have to credit anyone for the economy Barack Obama turned around? By every metric, the economy performed better under Obama than Bush and Trump. Trump is just maintaining that good economy he was given...for now.

By every metric? Really! Did you want to point out the exact time that Barry set records for the lowest unemployment rates since they started keeping that stat, Seawytch?

He started the ball rolling 75 straight months of 6 digit employment gains will do that

Oh, are we playing "Fun with Statistics" now? Barack Obama oversaw the worst recovery from a recession since FDR and The Great Depression!

Yeah those 75 straight months of 6 digit employment gains and dropping the unemployment rate from 10 to 4 was a bad thing

It was for the millions of Americans who suffered without jobs while Barry and his little band of liberals chased things like ObamaCare and Cap & Trade! It sucks when you can't pay your mortgage and the bank forecloses on your house after you've burned through your life's savings!

I've put forth this same challenge now a hundred times whenever you on the left start touting Obama's economic "chops" and I'll make it again! Tell me Barry's economic agenda that created jobs and grew the economy!

 

[Oldstyle]

By every metric? Really! Did you want to point out the exact time that Barry set records for the lowest unemployment rates since they started keeping that stat, Seawytch?

Obama left Trump with an unemployment rate of 4.7% and a consistently growing economy.

Talk about being born on third base and saying you hit a home run.

Did you want to show us all that point in the Obama Presidency where unemployment numbers hit record lows, Colfax? I can show you where that occurred in the Trump Presidency. Gee, talk about talking shit you can't back up!

Next you’ll tell us Trump is a self made millionaire. He never had any help from anyone.

Whoa...nice try at changing the subject, Colfax! LOL

It’s a lot easier to have record unemployment when you come into office and the unemployment rate is already one of the lowest in 50 years.

Actually it's easier to lower the unemployment rate when you come into office with billions of dollars in stimulus spending and TARP money to throw at creating jobs! Oh wait...Barry's stimulus was such a bust that they had to use "jobs created or saved" to hide how few jobs they created!

 

[Oldstyle]

So let's get back on topic...shall we?

 

[Oldstyle]

Bottom line is this...

The IG's report shows that the FBI conducted a highly inappropriate surveillance of the Trump campaign based on the actions of high ranking members of the FBI who were working behind the scenes to make sure Trump wouldn't become President or stay President once he was elected!

It was obviously politically motivated. That many people can't make that many "mistakes" filing FISA documents!

 

[OKTexas]

Possibly, but when medicare was originally passed very few people lived long enough to ever collect on it, with life spans increasing, perhaps the eligibility age should be increased, people are working longer than ever before. The same applies to social security.

.

I don’t know if you know many working class folks but they work hard. Their bodies get worn out. Just because average age has increased doesn’t mean everyone can just decide to work longer.

So now you want to move the goal posts and drag in disabled people to the conversation? Don't think I'll go there, we're far enough off topic already.

.

Who said anything about disabled? I am just talking about people that have been working hard and are worn out. The kind of people you think don’t deserve to retire at 65, now wait 67 now.

Many aren't planning to retire until their 70s, may brother plans to work to 72. I chose to retire at 59. The point is these programs were never intended to pay out for 20-30+ years. Now get back on the topic of the thread.

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Like I said. Cut taxes for the rich and cut benefits for the working class.

I won’t derail the thread any further. Sorry.

What do you not understand that those programs are not supposed to be funded by income taxes, they have their own tax structure.

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[edward37]

Perhaps Eddie can show us where Barry set those records for lowest unemployment numbers in history?

I didn't say ""in history"" but it sure as shit got the ball rolling for trump

 

[edward37]

Bottom line is this...

The IG's report shows that the FBI conducted a highly inappropriate surveillance of the Trump campaign based on the actions of high ranking members of the FBI who were working behind the scenes to make sure Trump wouldn't become President or stay President once he was elected!

It was obviously politically motivated. That many people can't make that many "mistakes" filing FISA documents!

IG's report showed no such thing no spying and none of the BS trump was spouting

 

[Oldstyle]

Bottom line is this...

The IG's report shows that the FBI conducted a highly inappropriate surveillance of the Trump campaign based on the actions of high ranking members of the FBI who were working behind the scenes to make sure Trump wouldn't become President or stay President once he was elected!

It was obviously politically motivated. That many people can't make that many "mistakes" filing FISA documents!

IG's report showed no such thing no spying and none of the BS trump was spouting

It's not technically spying because they got a FISA warrant to wiretap. What the IG's report clearly showed is that FISA warrant should have never been issued the first time...let alone three times after that! When you deliberately leave out pertinent facts in order to convince a judge to issue wire taps you're a disgrace! Those people at the FBI that did that...or knew about it's being done should be exposed and lose their jobs over what they did.

 

[Oldstyle]

Perhaps Eddie can show us where Barry set those records for lowest unemployment numbers in history?

I didn't say ""in history"" but it sure as shit got the ball rolling for trump

So you can't show me where Obama ever set records for low unemployment but you still feel the need to tout Barry's economic chops? Run along, Eddie...

Back to the real topic...
FBI malfeasance...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The IG's report shows that the FBI conducted a highly inappropriate surveillance of the Trump campaign

False. It literally concludes exactly the opposite of that, says no spying occurred, and that the investigation was justified. And the surveillance was prompted not by anyone being on any campaign, but by their being recruited by russian spies. You cultists have lost your minds.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What do you not understand that those programs are not supposed to be funded by income taxes, they have their own tax structure.

* funded by taxing income

 

[edward37]

Perhaps Eddie can show us where Barry set those records for lowest unemployment numbers in history?

I didn't say ""in history"" but it sure as shit got the ball rolling for trump

So you can't show me where Obama ever set records for low unemployment but you still feel the need to tout Barry's economic chops? Run along, Eddie...

Back to the real topic...
FBI malfeasance...

Damn He didn't set records Trump did ,on Obama's back What did trump give you?? Tariffs?

 

[Faun]

Oh look, does this mean you're ready to discuss what was actually in the report or just the parts Hannity wants you to see? Wanna discuss the fact that NONE of your/Trump's predictions about the AG report were true?

sure, lets discuss the 17 reported errors/falsehoods in the FISA applications, let discuss the emails between Strzok and Page, Lets discuss Comey and Lynch finding a way to let hillary off the hook for violating national secure data laws----------after an "accidental runway" meeting between bubba clinton and Lynch.

Yeah, lets discuss all of it, but you won't do that because your head alternates between obama's and hillary's ass.

Sure, we can talk about those errors. The IG said that they had no bearing on the overall investigation and that it was legally started. The errors do not change the fact that there was nothing untoward about the "oranges" of the Russia Investigation and that the FBI did their jobs when we were being threatened by an adversary and people within the Trump campaign had numerous contacts with those adversaries.

We can focus all day on the tree so poor Fishy wont realize there is an entire forrest around that one little tree.

The Barr/ Durham investigation is about to wrap up, lets wait for that. In the meantime lets review the FACT that Horowitz was an Obama appointee. I don't know if he has political motives, but we are entitled to know, don't you think?

In the meantime lets focus on the good economy, our once again strong capable military, and the very low unemployment rates around this Christmas season. the country is doing great, I give Trump some of the credit, you can credit obozo the kenyan if you want, but if you do that you also have to credit Bush.

While I appreciate the honesty in crediting Obama I beg to differ on Bush.
He oversaw the cratering of our economy. There is virtually nothing there to credit him with

W. actually foresaw the cratering of our economy and warned Congress that it was going to happen. Would you like me to show you what Barney Frank thought of Bush's concerns?
W. is also the person that got TARP passed...taking serious political heat in doing so...probably the single most important reason more of our large financial institutions didn't go belly up!

And the Republican-led Congress did nothing.

You left that part out.

 

[Oldstyle]

The IG's report shows that the FBI conducted a highly inappropriate surveillance of the Trump campaign

False. It literally concludes exactly the opposite of that, says no spying occurred, and that the investigation was justified. And the surveillance was prompted not by anyone being on any campaign, but by their being recruited by russian spies. You cultists have lost your minds.

And it's just a coincidence that the same FBI agents that were driving the "investigation" are the same agents that were assuring each other that Trump wouldn't get elected because they had something to stop him? Russian spies? Are you STILL pedaling that nonsense?

 

[Oldstyle]

sure, lets discuss the 17 reported errors/falsehoods in the FISA applications, let discuss the emails between Strzok and Page, Lets discuss Comey and Lynch finding a way to let hillary off the hook for violating national secure data laws----------after an "accidental runway" meeting between bubba clinton and Lynch.

Yeah, lets discuss all of it, but you won't do that because your head alternates between obama's and hillary's ass.

Sure, we can talk about those errors. The IG said that they had no bearing on the overall investigation and that it was legally started. The errors do not change the fact that there was nothing untoward about the "oranges" of the Russia Investigation and that the FBI did their jobs when we were being threatened by an adversary and people within the Trump campaign had numerous contacts with those adversaries.

We can focus all day on the tree so poor Fishy wont realize there is an entire forrest around that one little tree.

The Barr/ Durham investigation is about to wrap up, lets wait for that. In the meantime lets review the FACT that Horowitz was an Obama appointee. I don't know if he has political motives, but we are entitled to know, don't you think?

In the meantime lets focus on the good economy, our once again strong capable military, and the very low unemployment rates around this Christmas season. the country is doing great, I give Trump some of the credit, you can credit obozo the kenyan if you want, but if you do that you also have to credit Bush.

While I appreciate the honesty in crediting Obama I beg to differ on Bush.
He oversaw the cratering of our economy. There is virtually nothing there to credit him with

W. actually foresaw the cratering of our economy and warned Congress that it was going to happen. Would you like me to show you what Barney Frank thought of Bush's concerns?
W. is also the person that got TARP passed...taking serious political heat in doing so...probably the single most important reason more of our large financial institutions didn't go belly up!

And the Republican-led Congress did nothing.

You left that part out.

Ah, the Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate starting in 2006...and YES...Congress did nothing about the warnings that W. was giving them!