Anyone willing to guess WHEN the "replace" of ACA will take place?

[Wyatt earp]

you should be happy if it takes a while that would mean it isn't going to be a rush job and that we will actually be able to analyze the bill. Congress will actually know what is in the bill it's voting for instead of waiting until it's passed to find out what's in it

Well, since conservatives have opposed the ACA for SEVEN years, wouldn't you agree that these same conservatives are what we would call "slow in the head"?

When foreplay takes THAT long, the final lovemaking is a bit stale....LOL

Put your big boy pants on and pay for it yourself..


Quit begging it's becoming embarrassing for you

 

[Wyatt earp]

you should be happy if it takes a while that would mean it isn't going to be a rush job and that we will actually be able to analyze the bill. Congress will actually know what is in the bill it's voting for instead of waiting until it's passed to find out what's in it

Well, since conservatives have opposed the ACA for SEVEN years, wouldn't you agree that these same conservatives are what we would call "slow in the head"?

When foreplay takes THAT long, the final lovemaking is a bit stale....LOL

Put your big boy pants on and pay for it yourself..


Quit begging it's becoming embarrassing for you

Seriously pal.. Why do we have to pay for a chain smoker like you?

Plus you are an illegal ..which you already admitted in another thread

.

 

[nat4900]

"Trump is known to be so slow... he accomplished so little in his first week."

Your fake news media couldn't even keep up with his lightning fast moves. Trump has unleashed the Blitzkrieg on you, and you are dumb enough to make the statement that the God-Emperor just isn't quick enough?

"Speed" is what a charlatan uses to confuse.....Obama was criticized for by-passing congress with his EOs and I'd like to see how much Trump has consulted congress with his 15 or so EOs this week.

BTW, try to avoid the FOX mandate to you morons about using "fake news"....Its a bit trite by now. Try thinking on your own....use some original thoughts....It won't hurt your half brain.

 

[nat4900]

Put your big boy pants on and pay for it yourself..


Quit begging it's becoming embarrassing for you

A bit early to be so drunk, bearbreath........time for your nap???.....(What a asshole)

 

[Wyatt earp]

Put your big boy pants on and pay for it yourself..


Quit begging it's becoming embarrassing for you

A bit early to be so drunk, bearbreath........time for your nap???.....(What a asshole)

You just mad I made it known that you were an illegal chain smoking Mexican..

Nothing to be ashamed of


.

 

[Skull Pilot]

you should be happy if it takes a while that would mean it isn't going to be a rush job and that we will actually be able to analyze the bill. Congress will actually know what is in the bill it's voting for instead of waiting until it's passed to find out what's in it

Well, since conservatives have opposed the ACA for SEVEN years, wouldn't you agree that these same conservatives are what we would call "slow in the head"?

When foreplay takes THAT long, the final lovemaking is a bit stale....LOL

So what if they opposed it?

Now that they actually have the opportunity to change it the work starts. Tell me do you waste months of work doing something oh like writing one of the most complicated laws in history if you don't know if you're ever going to have the chance to implement that new law?

I suppose you'd rather they cobble together some piece of shit and vote on it in blind ignorance like the democrats did for Obammycare

 

[nat4900]

Tell me do you waste months of work doing something oh like writing one of the most complicated laws in history if you don't know if you're ever going to have the chance to implement that new law?

The answer to the above is a resounding, YES !!!!

If conservatives really had the smarts and will to come up with a better HC law, they should have. Obama did NOT place a gag order (as Trump has virtually imposed on the media)....so, a BETTER HC law would have been revealed to the electorate and that "evil Obama" would have had to veto a proposal that was clearly better.....

Your conservative lawmakers DO NOT HAVE A BETTER PLAN......Period. and after 7 years of bitching and moaning THAT has become clear.

 

[J.E.D]

See, folks, the "repeal" part is rather easy......but that other part as spewed by Trump that he would replace the ACA simultaneously with the repeal of the law, is turning out to be a bitch.

Republicans.....especially in the senate.....are scared shitless that a "TrumpCare" catastrophe will be suicidal on Nov. 2018.

All that democrats need to do, is sit back and watch the implosion...Always remember the Trump promise.......that he would replace the ACA, insure EVERYBODY, with better coverage and at a considerably lower cost to both the individual AND the US treasury.

This should be fun........

And Trump and the Republicans could just sit back and watch Obamacare self destruct....but they wont...they want something that actually works...not this catastrophe Obama and the Democrats left us with.

When will it be replaced? When the GOP can get 8 Democrats to vote for a replacement. If they stonewall...when Obamacare ends with nothing to replace it...Democrats get the blame.

Democrats will get the blame for Republicans throwing millions of people off of their health insurance without a replacement plan? Keep telling yourself that. Republicans are fucked.

 

[nat4900]

Democrats will get the blame for Republicans throwing millions of people off of their health insurance without a replacement plan? Keep telling yourself that. Republicans are fucked.

.......AND, lets repeat the Trump promise on HC:

1. EVERY single soul in the US will be insured (does that mean also all those undocumented?)
2. The TrumpCare will be CHEAPER
3. The TrumpCare will be much more inclusive.

Now, do you still wonder why republicans in congress are scared shitless about 2018?

 

[S.J.]

Republicans are currently discussing several plans. They'll have a replacement soon. He's only been POTUS one week.

So, during those SEVEN years of bitching about the ACA, and SIX years of GOP dominance of Congress, these right wing, elected morons could NOT come up with a suitable alternative?

Now, most conservatives on here will retort (as prompted by FOX) that Obama would have vetoed their plans........fair enough about the passage part, BUT to have NOTHING as an alternative now tat the Trumpster is in leads one to conclude 3 assumptions:

ONE Trump is full of shit when he stated that he had a plan
TWO, that elected conservatives just sat around for all these years playing with themselves
THREE, that there is NO better plan available (except universal insurance.)

Um, I think the fact that they have several plans available one week into Trump's presidency kind of proves you wrong.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Democrats will get the blame for Republicans throwing millions of people off of their health insurance without a replacement plan? Keep telling yourself that. Republicans are fucked.

.......AND, lets repeat the Trump promise on HC:

1. EVERY single soul in the US will be insured (does that mean also all those undocumented?)
2. The TrumpCare will be CHEAPER
3. The TrumpCare will be much more inclusive.

Now, do you still wonder why republicans in congress are scared shitless about 2018?

Which Republicans in Congress do you speak of?

 

[nat4900]

Um, I think the fact that they have several plans available one week into Trump's presidency kind of proves you wrong.

Oh, sorry....You must mean those "several plans" that only special right wingers have seen and reviewed.....(forgot about those)

 

[S.J.]

Um, I think the fact that they have several plans available one week into Trump's presidency kind of proves you wrong.

Oh, sorry....You must mean those "several plans" that only special right wingers have seen and reviewed.....(forgot about those)

I mean the several plans that are being reviewed this week. Deflect much?

 

[nat4900]

Which Republicans in Congress do you speak of?

When one can't address the main issue, one feigns ignorance.....(but maybe its not feigned)



Here are some quotes that lawmakers verified to The Washington Post as authentic from the leaked tape related to repealing and replacing the ACA:

“We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and we’ll be judged in the election less than two years away.”

….

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) warned his colleagues that the estimated budget savings from passing the Obamacare repeal bill — which Republicans say could approach a half-trillion dollars — are needed to fund the costs of setting up a replacement. “This is going to be what we’ll need to be able to move to that transition,” he said.

….

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Tex.) worried that one idea floated by Republicans — a refundable tax credit — would not work for middle-class families that cannot afford to prepay their premiums and wait for a tax refund.

….

And Rep. John Faso (R-N.Y.), a freshman congressman from the Hudson Valley, warned strongly against using the repeal of the ACA to also defund Planned Parenthood. “We are just walking into a gigantic political trap if we go down this path of sticking Planned Parenthood in the health insurance bill,” he said. “If you want to do it somewhere else, I have no problem, but I think we are creating a political minefield for ourselves — House and Senate.”

These guys have no idea what they are doing, and they are terrified of the political consequences for what they are about to unleash. There is no way that Republicans will be able to replace Obamacare with something that is better, cheaper, and will cover more people.

 

[nat4900]

I mean the several plans that are being reviewed this week

"................and remember, if you place your tooth under your pillow and behave like a good boy, the Tooth Fairy will reward you when you wake up in the morning...."

 

[S.J.]

I mean the several plans that are being reviewed this week

"................and remember, if you place your tooth under your pillow and behave like a good boy, the Tooth Fairy will reward you when you wake up in the morning...."

Now THERE'S a great argument for somebody who has nothing intelligent to say after being bitch slapped.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Tell me do you waste months of work doing something oh like writing one of the most complicated laws in history if you don't know if you're ever going to have the chance to implement that new law?

The answer to the above is a resounding, YES !!!!

If conservatives really had the smarts and will to come up with a better HC law, they should have. Obama did NOT place a gag order (as Trump has virtually imposed on the media)....so, a BETTER HC law would have been revealed to the electorate and that "evil Obama" would have had to veto a proposal that was clearly better.....

Your conservative lawmakers DO NOT HAVE A BETTER PLAN......Period. and after 7 years of bitching and moaning THAT has become clear.

For one they are not my law makers since I didn't vote for any of them
And the answer is no you don't knowingly waste time. They have the time now to do it won't be wasted time because the new bill will actually get a chance to be voted on.

And wtf does it matter when they get the bill in as long as they do and it's actually a well thought out bill and not one like Obammy care where every effort to hide the contents of the legislation was made in the rush to get that piece of shit passed?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Which Republicans in Congress do you speak of?

When one can't address the main issue, one feigns ignorance.....(but maybe its not feigned)



Here are some quotes that lawmakers verified to The Washington Post as authentic from the leaked tape related to repealing and replacing the ACA:

“We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and we’ll be judged in the election less than two years away.”

….

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) warned his colleagues that the estimated budget savings from passing the Obamacare repeal bill — which Republicans say could approach a half-trillion dollars — are needed to fund the costs of setting up a replacement. “This is going to be what we’ll need to be able to move to that transition,” he said.

….

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Tex.) worried that one idea floated by Republicans — a refundable tax credit — would not work for middle-class families that cannot afford to prepay their premiums and wait for a tax refund.

….

And Rep. John Faso (R-N.Y.), a freshman congressman from the Hudson Valley, warned strongly against using the repeal of the ACA to also defund Planned Parenthood. “We are just walking into a gigantic political trap if we go down this path of sticking Planned Parenthood in the health insurance bill,” he said. “If you want to do it somewhere else, I have no problem, but I think we are creating a political minefield for ourselves — House and Senate.”

These guys have no idea what they are doing, and they are terrified of the political consequences for what they are about to unleash. There is no way that Republicans will be able to replace Obamacare with something that is better, cheaper, and will cover more people.

So discussing and having opinions on possible replacement options is what you consider "scared shitless?"

That's very wishful thinking on your part. Republicans are going to debate this issue, offer their own solutions, and yes, debate each other's solutions. But that's a far cry from scared shitless. After all, getting rid of Commie Care was one of Trump's main issues. Why would they be scared of an issue that helped win them the White House? After all, most people that use Commie Care are probably strict Democrat voters anyway.

 

[WillReadmore]

Which Republicans in Congress do you speak of?

When one can't address the main issue, one feigns ignorance.....(but maybe its not feigned)



Here are some quotes that lawmakers verified to The Washington Post as authentic from the leaked tape related to repealing and replacing the ACA:

“We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and we’ll be judged in the election less than two years away.”

….

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) warned his colleagues that the estimated budget savings from passing the Obamacare repeal bill — which Republicans say could approach a half-trillion dollars — are needed to fund the costs of setting up a replacement. “This is going to be what we’ll need to be able to move to that transition,” he said.

….

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Tex.) worried that one idea floated by Republicans — a refundable tax credit — would not work for middle-class families that cannot afford to prepay their premiums and wait for a tax refund.

….

And Rep. John Faso (R-N.Y.), a freshman congressman from the Hudson Valley, warned strongly against using the repeal of the ACA to also defund Planned Parenthood. “We are just walking into a gigantic political trap if we go down this path of sticking Planned Parenthood in the health insurance bill,” he said. “If you want to do it somewhere else, I have no problem, but I think we are creating a political minefield for ourselves — House and Senate.”

These guys have no idea what they are doing, and they are terrified of the political consequences for what they are about to unleash. There is no way that Republicans will be able to replace Obamacare with something that is better, cheaper, and will cover more people.

So discussing and having opinions on possible replacement options is what you consider "scared shitless?"

That's very wishful thinking on your part. Republicans are going to debate this issue, offer their own solutions, and yes, debate each other's solutions. But that's a far cry from scared shitless. After all, getting rid of Commie Care was one of Trump's main issues. Why would they be scared of an issue that helped win them the White House? After all, most people that use Commie Care are probably strict Democrat voters anyway.

No.

That is NOT what is happening.

Today, we're getting tweets and piecemeal proposals from groups or individuals with NO bi-partisan input even on objectives. In fact, we aren't even seeing any agreement on objectives from Republicans.

Calling what we are getting a "discussion" is just plain stupid. There is no indication that even Republicans are having discussions, given the wild variation in what we're hearinh.

And, yes that is scary.

Do you even get what is being tossed in the air here?

This is the health care system used by every American.

You dan not threaten that with the current random nonsense and think it doesn't concern every family, every parent, every aging American, every American finally able to get coverage so they don't have to use the ER.

 

[nat4900]

I mean the several plans that are being reviewed this week

"................and remember, if you place your tooth under your pillow and behave like a good boy, the Tooth Fairy will reward you when you wake up in the morning...."

Now THERE'S a great argument for somebody who has nothing intelligent to say after being bitch slapped.

hey, S. J. will you be the FIRST on this forum to share all those wonderful HC plans that right wingers have conjured up???? I mean, since you are personally privy to them, be kind and share the "good news" as soon as you can...............................(what a totally mindless asshole)