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Humans. Humans are not, dope.
That's why it's not decreasing.
This is what you posted
Yes. Somewhere is other humans.
You love Trumnp's trasde war is is nothing but a huge tax increase that hits poor people.
Yet never a concern about the poor people when they had their cigarettes taxed by Obama, or their increased costs for fuel, or environmental regulations that made their products more expensive.
Don't you dare have a fit because vehicle emissions inspection cost money. It is part of owning a vehicle.
That's not part of owning a vehicle. It's part of an overbearing federal government.
Do, we should have no regulations on vehicles.
Let people run them without brakes or any emission nooooooooooo because that wopuld be governmdnt interference.
Emission testing is ridiculous. Any vehicle made in the last 15 years has all kinds of pollution crap on it already. Any truck manufactured in the last five the same.
It's nothing but bureaucracies increasing the size of government and accomplishing nothing at the same time, just like here in Cleveland. It's a huge waste of money; money that can be used for more productive things.
So, we should just trust people & corporations because no one would every disconnect shit or parts never fail.
Ray got his PhD from the Limbaugh Institute.I agree, the US is probably doing more than other nations in reducing CO2 levels. However, the US is also the 2nd largest emitter of greenhouse gases and the largest on per ca pita basis. Since China is the highest emitter in tons per year but is low as a per capita emitter, the Paris Accords assigned the US with a higher annual reduction goal than China which gave Trump a good excuse to refuse to support the accords arguing that US was doing enough and it was China's turn to bear the load.No, it is the federal EPA that forced us into that program. They did the same thing with our water as well. We are currently trying to get out of it as long as we have a Republican Governor and President, but I haven't heard anything as of late.
As I already posted, the US is doing more than her share of cleaning up the planet. It's the other countries that we have no control over that's adding to the Co2 levels.
This reminds me of a situation that occurred in a small Louisiana town on the banks of the Mississippi about 60 or 70 years ago. The Mississippi was experiencing some of the worst flooding in many years. In this little town the mayor and city council organized blacks who lived nearest the river to sandbag since they would suffer the most damage. The White people provided supplies, coffee and sandwiches. This went on day and all night and into the next day. Then some of the blacks noticed something was missing, white folks who sat on their porches watching the work. Since white people owned the shacks they rented, the blacks thought the whites should do some work. One thing lead to another and the hundreds of blacks walked off. And since there weren't enough workers, the river did what it always does. It rose, flooded all the homes. What was left was not worth saving. I expect something similar on a global scale as climate changes and the nations most responsible do little or nothing because they've done their share.
The difference in your analogy is that they knew the river would rise and flood. We don't know what increased Co2 or any other gas would do. Most of the climate models were wrong in the past, and all they have to go on are those models.
Many years ago our river started fire. The theory was that if they dumped chemicals into such a huge amount of water like the Great Lakes, those chemicals would dissipate and never be noticed. Well they were wrong, but it took empirical evidence before they did something about it. Water simply doesn't catch on fire.
With global warming (or climate change if you will) we don't have empirical evidence of anything. We have predictions, models, but nothing concrete.
We have Alexandria Kelly Bundy who says we only have 12 years to exist; Beto says 10. Now we've all seen these predictions before and they never materialized. Increased hurricanes, increased tornados, increased earth quakes, cities buried under water, you name it, and somebody predicted it years ago.
The sooner government can control fuel and healthcare, the sooner they will have total control over the people. That's what this is really all about.
We know hoe high CO2 affects our climate.
It is SCIENCE.
I wish you uneducated assfucks would quit pretending you actually know something & STFU.
If in 1990, a scientist said that if we continues with emission on the current pace that NY could be flooded as early as in 20 years is not saying it will happen. They are saying it could happen. As our CO2 levels increase there is a range of effects. Stating what the worst could be is not a fucking promise.
It does not mean the models are wrong.
For you stupid assfucks out there, some action has been taken & that would change the models.
When your doctor tells you smoking could kill you in 30 years & you go from 3 packs a pack to one, that changes your outlook.
It takes decades for the Earth to remove excess CO2 from the atmosphere.
You stupid fucks think we can wait until the worse effects hit, we can just cut our emissions & everything.
There is a multi decade delay.
Why the fuck are you too stupid to get it.
Dave, I'm pushing 60 now, and I remember as a child when we were trying to make our country more green. It hasn't stopped. No matter how much we do, they only want more. And there is no end in sight.
And with every so-called improvement, it comes at a cost. Oh......you may not see it. The government doesn't send us each a bill for our cost of green. It's intrinsic in everything we buy. You're paying for it, you just don't know it. Maybe if you did, you wouldn't be such a pushover for all this doom and gloom talk.
So what did we do since that time?
Outlawed DDT.
Outlawed lead in gasoline and paint.
Outlawed asbestus.
Outlawed Fluorocarbons in spray cans.
CAFE standards on cars.
CAFE standards on trucks.
Vast expansion of cleaner burning gasoline blends across the country.
Environmental friendly anti-freeze.
Outlawed incinerators in homes that burned garbage.
The elimination of styrofoam containers for fast food products.
Much lower sulfur content in diesel fuel.
Federal requirement of Diesel Emission Fluid in all diesel vehicles manufactured after 2010.
The elimination of incandescent light bulbs.
Elimination of toilets with 2 gallon tanks.
Environment friendly home and business insulation.
Mandated recycling programs.
New environmental standards for lawn equipment.
Electric cars.
Burning up our food supply to manufacture ethanal.
Water saving shower heads.
Increased energy efficiency on appliances.
Now these are just SOME of the changes on a national level. Then there are more at state and city levels such as a ban on plastic straws, a ban on helium balloons, bans on plastic grocery bags, bans on the use of tobacco products, bans on wood burning fires, emission testing on vehicles, and in NYC, a consideration of banning hotdogs.
And after all this (and much more) what have we got to show for it? The environment is in more danger now than it's ever been according to environmentalists.
Lets go back & eliminate all those actions.
Then you can live in that world that you so deeply desire. Thousands & thousands of dead Americans, Air that is dangerous to breathe. Water shortages, etc.
Each had a purpose.
Pushing for higher mpgs. You run in circles screaming OMG OMG OMG yet it not only reduced oil imports from the countries you musty love but reduced the pollution & emissions. I mean are you actually too stupid to see the good this did?
Do you think we should put lead back in paint? Really?
Laws were put in place to reduce the sulfur in diesel helped end the threat of acid rain. I guess you think we sjhould have done nothing & allowed our lakes & rivers to die.
Without recycling, our landfills would be exploding.
The use of ethanol in gasoline had nothing to do with emissions. It was about importing less oil.
Energy Star program for more efficient appliances. You want inefficient appliances & to invest in expanding our electric supply?
Every one of those things you listed worked & helped improve our country.
Do you hate America? Do you want to live in pollution?
Considering the climate problems that can result due to CO2 increases, we are doing a terrible job of limiting CO2. I doubt we every be able to control climate. We may be able influence it but not really control it.
The problem is we can't control Co2 either. God does.
So given the trillions that were already spent on this farce, and it's proven to be a failure, how much more should we spend?
This all reminds me of what happened (and is still happening) here. Years ago the feds said our air was unacceptable. So they forced us into this E-check program. Ten years later, they once again tested the air with no change in the quality of air. And keep in mind, during that time, our steel mills shutdown. They reopened again later, but with much more green initiatives.
The billions we spent in that decade of E-cehck could have went to better things such as the homeless, our roads, reducing taxation, a number of things. But even after the negative results of this failed program, the feds insisted we continue it.
So all this goes to support my point. Combating global warming is a bottomless money pit. All the money in the country could never fill it.
"The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again, but expecting different results each time."The problem is we can't control Co2 either. God does.
LOL....
So god is fucking us and not humans?
Fucking us because the earth is not meeting your expectations? Don't worry about trying to control the climate. It's out of your pay grade.
You are a complete idiot. You run to god as an explanation because you're not capable of understanding even the most basic fact surrounding greenhouse gas.
The sources are measurable. God isn't one of them.
Emission testing was an important tool in reducing air pollution in the 80's. It also pushed auto manufactures to lower emissions well beyond just catalytic converters. The result has been much cleaner air that meets EPA standards. Washington was the first state to remove the testing requirements and other states will likely follow.You love Trumnp's trasde war is is nothing but a huge tax increase that hits poor people.
Yet never a concern about the poor people when they had their cigarettes taxed by Obama, or their increased costs for fuel, or environmental regulations that made their products more expensive.
Don't you dare have a fit because vehicle emissions inspection cost money. It is part of owning a vehicle.
That's not part of owning a vehicle. It's part of an overbearing federal government.
Do, we should have no regulations on vehicles.
Let people run them without brakes or any emission nooooooooooo because that wopuld be governmdnt interference.
Emission testing is ridiculous. Any vehicle made in the last 15 years has all kinds of pollution crap on it already. Any truck manufactured in the last five the same.
It's nothing but bureaucracies increasing the size of government and accomplishing nothing at the same time, just like here in Cleveland. It's a huge waste of money; money that can be used for more productive things.
Why are you blaming Trump for what Democrats have done?No, not the left. Trump has announced plans to put more ethanol in gasoline. The proposed regulations would allow 15-percent ethanol fuels to be sold year-round, including in the summer. The high-ethanol fuel is currently banned by the EPA for sale during the summer driving season, which begins June 1, because of its high fuel volatility rating, which can hurt engine performance and can contribute to smog, especially during summer.Corn is grown for ethanol production at the insistence of the left, to lessen the use of fossil fuels. Corn production requires massive amounts of fertilizer, which runs off the farmland into rivers, some of which winds up in the Gulf of Mexico...causing algal blooms which consume seawater oxygen when they die off. The oxygen depletion causes a massive dead zone every year. In 2017, it was the size of New Jersey.Studies have shown that higher CO2 can help plant growth but nutrition levels can lessen. When you look at a crop like corn, it loses a percentage pf its production with each degree day over 90/95.More CO two usually makes plants and insects bigger as witnessed by earth's past. I haven't seen either get bigger.
Congratulations, leftist "environmentalists": You're killing the Gulf of Mexico.
The DDT ban was based on junk science.Ridiculous!Ray got his PhD from the Limbaugh Institute.I agree, the US is probably doing more than other nations in reducing CO2 levels. However, the US is also the 2nd largest emitter of greenhouse gases and the largest on per ca pita basis. Since China is the highest emitter in tons per year but is low as a per capita emitter, the Paris Accords assigned the US with a higher annual reduction goal than China which gave Trump a good excuse to refuse to support the accords arguing that US was doing enough and it was China's turn to bear the load.No, it is the federal EPA that forced us into that program. They did the same thing with our water as well. We are currently trying to get out of it as long as we have a Republican Governor and President, but I haven't heard anything as of late.
As I already posted, the US is doing more than her share of cleaning up the planet. It's the other countries that we have no control over that's adding to the Co2 levels.
This reminds me of a situation that occurred in a small Louisiana town on the banks of the Mississippi about 60 or 70 years ago. The Mississippi was experiencing some of the worst flooding in many years. In this little town the mayor and city council organized blacks who lived nearest the river to sandbag since they would suffer the most damage. The White people provided supplies, coffee and sandwiches. This went on day and all night and into the next day. Then some of the blacks noticed something was missing, white folks who sat on their porches watching the work. Since white people owned the shacks they rented, the blacks thought the whites should do some work. One thing lead to another and the hundreds of blacks walked off. And since there weren't enough workers, the river did what it always does. It rose, flooded all the homes. What was left was not worth saving. I expect something similar on a global scale as climate changes and the nations most responsible do little or nothing because they've done their share.
The difference in your analogy is that they knew the river would rise and flood. We don't know what increased Co2 or any other gas would do. Most of the climate models were wrong in the past, and all they have to go on are those models.
Many years ago our river started fire. The theory was that if they dumped chemicals into such a huge amount of water like the Great Lakes, those chemicals would dissipate and never be noticed. Well they were wrong, but it took empirical evidence before they did something about it. Water simply doesn't catch on fire.
With global warming (or climate change if you will) we don't have empirical evidence of anything. We have predictions, models, but nothing concrete.
We have Alexandria Kelly Bundy who says we only have 12 years to exist; Beto says 10. Now we've all seen these predictions before and they never materialized. Increased hurricanes, increased tornados, increased earth quakes, cities buried under water, you name it, and somebody predicted it years ago.
The sooner government can control fuel and healthcare, the sooner they will have total control over the people. That's what this is really all about.
We know hoe high CO2 affects our climate.
It is SCIENCE.
I wish you uneducated assfucks would quit pretending you actually know something & STFU.
If in 1990, a scientist said that if we continues with emission on the current pace that NY could be flooded as early as in 20 years is not saying it will happen. They are saying it could happen. As our CO2 levels increase there is a range of effects. Stating what the worst could be is not a fucking promise.
It does not mean the models are wrong.
For you stupid assfucks out there, some action has been taken & that would change the models.
When your doctor tells you smoking could kill you in 30 years & you go from 3 packs a pack to one, that changes your outlook.
It takes decades for the Earth to remove excess CO2 from the atmosphere.
You stupid fucks think we can wait until the worse effects hit, we can just cut our emissions & everything.
There is a multi decade delay.
Why the fuck are you too stupid to get it.
Dave, I'm pushing 60 now, and I remember as a child when we were trying to make our country more green. It hasn't stopped. No matter how much we do, they only want more. And there is no end in sight.
And with every so-called improvement, it comes at a cost. Oh......you may not see it. The government doesn't send us each a bill for our cost of green. It's intrinsic in everything we buy. You're paying for it, you just don't know it. Maybe if you did, you wouldn't be such a pushover for all this doom and gloom talk.
So what did we do since that time?
Outlawed DDT.
Outlawed lead in gasoline and paint.
Outlawed asbestus.
Outlawed Fluorocarbons in spray cans.
CAFE standards on cars.
CAFE standards on trucks.
Vast expansion of cleaner burning gasoline blends across the country.
Environmental friendly anti-freeze.
Outlawed incinerators in homes that burned garbage.
The elimination of styrofoam containers for fast food products.
Much lower sulfur content in diesel fuel.
Federal requirement of Diesel Emission Fluid in all diesel vehicles manufactured after 2010.
The elimination of incandescent light bulbs.
Elimination of toilets with 2 gallon tanks.
Environment friendly home and business insulation.
Mandated recycling programs.
New environmental standards for lawn equipment.
Electric cars.
Burning up our food supply to manufacture ethanal.
Water saving shower heads.
Increased energy efficiency on appliances.
Now these are just SOME of the changes on a national level. Then there are more at state and city levels such as a ban on plastic straws, a ban on helium balloons, bans on plastic grocery bags, bans on the use of tobacco products, bans on wood burning fires, emission testing on vehicles, and in NYC, a consideration of banning hotdogs.
And after all this (and much more) what have we got to show for it? The environment is in more danger now than it's ever been according to environmentalists.
The ban on widespread use of DDT is one smartest things the government has done.
Studies show a range of human health effects linked to DDT which include:
In addition it is an ecological nightmare. The ecological ramifications of DDT-use resulted in massive and widespread population declines of many species of our birds over large geographic areas. Populations of Bald eagles and other birds crashed when DDT thinned their eggs, killing their embryos. At the rate we were losing Bald Eagles, the emblem of the nation, they would have been extinct by now as well as hundreds of other birds. Studies of fish also reveal declines in fresh water bass, trout, perch, and bluegills/
- breast & other cancers
- male infertility
- miscarriages & low birth weight
- developmental delay
- nervous system & liver damage
Asbestos exposure is the No. 1 cause of work-related deaths in the world. Approximately 90,000 people die from asbestos-related diseases globally each year. An estimated 125 million people worldwide remain at risk of occupational exposure to asbestos. I guess you think that we should still be using it.
In you perfect world, I guess there would be no mandated recycling so we would have 31.2 billion pounds of additional waste in landfills every single day, an additional 20,000 people a year dying with respiratory diseases resulting from increased air pollution, hundreds of children every year dying of lead positioning etc. etc...
Goodness, but you're not bright. What I'm saying is people who live in shitholes think they know better than me how to live my life...when the things they want created the shithole to begin with.Sure you did. "I live where its green so I am doing it wright & you live in the city & look what you are doing.Is that what I said? Hint: No, you retard.So renting an apartment in the city is producing all that pollution?View attachment 261545It's like I posted earlier. Global Warming is a bottomless money pit. All the money in the US couldn't fill it up. The more we spend on it, the worse the supposed problem gets, and the more they want.
The real problem in the US is consumers have no idea how much of their money goes towards green. That's why every product should have a label by law that states how much money goes towards green to produce that product. If Americans actually knew how much all this is costing them, they wouldn't be so anxious for more regulations and costs in the future.
They go out and ask people if they want a cleaner environment? Well duh, HTF do they think people will answer? Now go out and ask them if they'd like a cleaner environment if government sends them a bill for $1,000 a year and see what they say.
So anybody that tells you our country wants to be greener, tell them they are F.O.S.
Man, you are still looking in the rearview mirror, you better watch the road.
They want to get rid of the Electoral College so New York City can tell folks in Tennessee to put a windmill in their front yard and send them the juice.
Marxism 101
I've already shown it was passed by a Democrat Congress.Corn is grown for ethanol production at the insistence of the left, to lessen the use of fossil fuels. Corn production requires massive amounts of fertilizer, which runs off the farmland into rivers, some of which winds up in the Gulf of Mexico...causing algal blooms which consume seawater oxygen when they die off. The oxygen depletion causes a massive dead zone every year. In 2017, it was the size of New Jersey.Studies have shown that higher CO2 can help plant growth but nutrition levels can lessen. When you look at a crop like corn, it loses a percentage pf its production with each degree day over 90/95.More CO two usually makes plants and insects bigger as witnessed by earth's past. I haven't seen either get bigger.
Congratulations, leftist "environmentalists": You're killing the Gulf of Mexico.
You are an ass.
Ethonol in gasoline was done under George W Bush & Republican Congress. Wow what a bunch of leftists. huh?
It was done to reduce imports, not reduce pollution or greenhouse gas emissions.
Since you admit corn is so evil to grown, then you would be for eliminating beef & other animal production.
Crops an be grown without massive amounts of fertilizer & it can be used without massive runoffs. Here in PA, runoffs from agriculture has been greatly reduced. What percent of runoffs is due to ethanol corn?
I don't suppose you know about diesels and DEF now.
Just another example of how stupid you are.
Obviously I do as I just mentioned them, dope.
No you didn't, you talked about diesels and blasting soot on cyclists.
If you knew what DEF is, and that pretty much all diesels use it, you would know there isn't any soot, dope.
Double down on stupid if you want to though.you would know there isn't any soot, dope.
Rolling coal !........
Coal rollers put modified chips in their trucks. That's not a factory chip; it's custom programming. Factory chips meet EPA emissions standards for, among other things, particulates.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with my point in my original post on the subject.
Suicide-baiting is illegal. But, yeah, YOU'RE the victim here.You made it personal. Unacceptable. And more than likely against board rules.You just told someone to kill himself. You need to shut the fuck up.didnt you graduate from the 2nd grade yet?didnt you graduate from the 2nd grade yet?
^ This is a grown man. Uff.
Because he stated people needed to die, dope.
WTF?
He suggested people should die.
I simply suggested he start with himself, dope.
Obviously I do as I just mentioned them, dope.
No you didn't, you talked about diesels and blasting soot on cyclists.
If you knew what DEF is, and that pretty much all diesels use it, you would know there isn't any soot, dope.
Double down on stupid if you want to though.you would know there isn't any soot, dope.
Rolling coal !........
Coal rollers put modified chips in their trucks. That's not a factory chip; it's custom programming. Factory chips meet EPA emissions standards for, among other things, particulates.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with my point in my original post on the subject.
It does, actually. But you do you, Skippy.
I never claimed to be a victim, dope.Suicide-baiting is illegal. But, yeah, YOU'RE the victim here.You made it personal. Unacceptable. And more than likely against board rules.You just told someone to kill himself. You need to shut the fuck up.^ This is a grown man. Uff.
Because he stated people needed to die, dope.
WTF?
He suggested people should die.
I simply suggested he start with himself, dope.
No you didn't, you talked about diesels and blasting soot on cyclists.
If you knew what DEF is, and that pretty much all diesels use it, you would know there isn't any soot, dope.
Double down on stupid if you want to though.you would know there isn't any soot, dope.
Rolling coal !........
Coal rollers put modified chips in their trucks. That's not a factory chip; it's custom programming. Factory chips meet EPA emissions standards for, among other things, particulates.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with my point in my original post on the subject.
It does, actually. But you do you, Skippy.
It doesn't, dope.
Uh huh. HE STARTED IT!! is claiming victim status.I never claimed to be a victim, dope.Suicide-baiting is illegal. But, yeah, YOU'RE the victim here.You made it personal. Unacceptable. And more than likely against board rules.You just told someone to kill himself. You need to shut the fuck up.
Because he stated people needed to die, dope.
WTF?
He suggested people should die.
I simply suggested he start with himself, dope.
Rolling coal !........
Coal rollers put modified chips in their trucks. That's not a factory chip; it's custom programming. Factory chips meet EPA emissions standards for, among other things, particulates.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with my point in my original post on the subject.
It does, actually. But you do you, Skippy.
It doesn't, dope.
Naturally, I wouldn't expect you to acknowledge your fuck-up.
Uh huh. HE STARTED IT!! is claiming victim status.I never claimed to be a victim, dope.Suicide-baiting is illegal. But, yeah, YOU'RE the victim here.You made it personal. Unacceptable. And more than likely against board rules.Because he stated people needed to die, dope.
WTF?
He suggested people should die.
I simply suggested he start with himself, dope.
Pathetic.
If that lets you feel better about fucking up, sure.The error is yours, dope.Naturally, I wouldn't expect you to acknowledge your fuck-up.It does, actually. But you do you, Skippy.Coal rollers put modified chips in their trucks. That's not a factory chip; it's custom programming. Factory chips meet EPA emissions standards for, among other things, particulates.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with my point in my original post on the subject.
It doesn't, dope.
Goodness, you're a liar.Uh huh. HE STARTED IT!! is claiming victim status.I never claimed to be a victim, dope.Suicide-baiting is illegal. But, yeah, YOU'RE the victim here.You made it personal. Unacceptable. And more than likely against board rules.
WTF?
He suggested people should die.
I simply suggested he start with himself, dope.
Pathetic.
I never said that either, loser
The EPA did not require that Ohio use emission testing to reduce air pollution. The state decided that. Their are 19 states that did not propose emission testing but instead included other means of meeting air quality standards. Ohio could have done the same by proposing alternatives that would meet the state air pollution reduction goal. In fact, the state can alter their plan at any time.You love Trumnp's trasde war is is nothing but a huge tax increase that hits poor people.
Yet never a concern about the poor people when they had their cigarettes taxed by Obama, or their increased costs for fuel, or environmental regulations that made their products more expensive.
Don't you dare have a fit because vehicle emissions inspection cost money. It is part of owning a vehicle.
That's not part of owning a vehicle. It's part of an overbearing federal government.
Do, we should have no regulations on vehicles.
Let people run them without brakes or any emission nooooooooooo because that wopuld be governmdnt interference.
Emission testing is ridiculous. Any vehicle made in the last 15 years has all kinds of pollution crap on it already. Any truck manufactured in the last five the same.
It's nothing but bureaucracies increasing the size of government and accomplishing nothing at the same time, just like here in Cleveland. It's a huge waste of money; money that can be used for more productive things.
So, we should just trust people & corporations because no one would every disconnect shit or parts never fail.
Oh please. I knew people who failed because their gas cap didn't close 100% tight. And what could you disconnect that would help you in any way?
If you were trying to get rid of grubs in your lawn, and every year you used fertilizer with grub control, and after ten years, you still had grubs, would you continue to waste your money on it? Of course not. It's not doing what it was supposed to do.
Well that's exactly what happened here. So what did the EPA say about it? We had to continue the program.
