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True, what about all the white descendants of the whites who died fighting for blacks to be free? Their lives were cut short, thus they didn't live to succeed in life. How would anyone determine who gets what and how much?The past is just a memory.
Removing memories doesn't erase the present. The past is merely a tool one uses to deal with the present.
The past is not a memory, as it existed whether you witnessed it to remember it or not. The past is ENERGY that transcends the temporal continuum. The energy of the past illuminates the present.
How many generations do we go back?
Just so I can be ready.....
I'm guessing that the only cotton you picked came out of an aspirin bottle.
True?
OK let's play your little game of whites died for us to be free. Whites were free. They died choosing to fight. Let me repeat. The whites were free. The blacks were not. Blacks had no choice. In addition whites were paid for their labor, not owned as property, had the freedom to go wherever they wanted, not just where their owners said they could go, and were considered citizens with full rights. So I must ask, do you guys even think before you start posting these comments? What reparations would whites be entitled to for fighting to free people who were supposed to already be free according to the constitution? Really do you guys even think? You are paying reparations to Native Americans every year. So again, do you guys even think before you hit the post reply button?
"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.
And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption
Blacks today are owed nothing. How do you know who is or who is not a decendent of slaves? How do you pay those mixed people who's parents were blacks who willingly had children with whites? How about everyone work for what they get and not expect handouts, that is what that is. I can't control whether or not the Native Americans get reparations. This does not mean everyone who had oppressed ancestors are due something.You were not a slave, you are due nothing from slavery. So, you are saying because a white man was free but chose to fight for the blacks to be free, they aren't worthy of compensation too? If it weren't for them, blacks might not have gained their freedom.True, what about all the white descendants of the whites who died fighting for blacks to be free? Their lives were cut short, thus they didn't live to succeed in life. How would anyone determine who gets what and how much?The past is not a memory, as it existed whether you witnessed it to remember it or not. The past is ENERGY that transcends the temporal continuum. The energy of the past illuminates the present.
How many generations do we go back?
Just so I can be ready.....
I'm guessing that the only cotton you picked came out of an aspirin bottle.
True?
OK let's play your little game of whites died for us to be free. Whites were free. They died choosing to fight. Let me repeat. The whites were free. The blacks were not. Blacks had no choice. In addition whites were paid for their labor, not owned as property, had the freedom to go wherever they wanted, not just where their owners said they could go, and were considered citizens with full rights. So I must ask, do you guys even think before you start posting these comments? What reparations would whites be entitled to for fighting to free people who were supposed to already be free according to the constitution? Really do you guys even think? You are paying reparations to Native Americans every year. So again, do you guys even think before you hit the post reply button?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Who freed the slaves?
Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was limited to freeing only slaves in states that had seceded--slave masters in the border states that had remained officially neutral were exempt, as were any parts of the Confederacy already under Union control. Still, the document was a recognition that the goals of a Union victory to keep the United States together and the destruction of slavery were tied together and inseparable. Since the proclamation could only apply in reality if the North won the war, the Northern army became a de facto army of liberation--with slaves escaping to Union lines to gain their freedom.
Soon thereafter, the Union finally agreed to arm and train Black soldiers. Large numbers of Black men poured into the Union Army, more than half of them former slaves. Their sacrifices were enormous. Blacks suffered a casualty rate 40 percent higher than white soldiers (of the 38,000 who died, only 2,870 were actually killed in combat, reflecting the horrific living conditions for these soldiers.)
Black troops fought in nearly every major campaign. As a result of one battle alone in Virginia, 14 African Americans received the Medal of Honor. Yet these soldiers faced discrimination at every turn--racist treatment at the hands of all-white officers, disparity in pay, the worst assignments, outdated equipment.
Some white officers fought for the dignity of their troops. Robert Gould Shaw, the commander of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, whose story was immortalized in the excellent film Glory, was one example. The entire 54th--including the white officers who weren't subject to unfair wages--refused their unequal pay for an entire year. Towards the end of the war, the government relented and granted full and equal back pay.
Not surprisingly, armed Black soldiers terrified the Confederacy, which vowed to return to slavery or put to death any so-called "slave insurrectionists" caught in uniform (as well as any white officers leading them).
Blacks also played a crucial role in the war effort from behind Southern lines--engaging in sabotage, strikes, individual acts of violence, conspiracy, rebellion and marronage (forming illegal communities.) These slave disturbances drained Confederate resources, with militia and army units forced to patrol at home rather than fight the Union Army.
Confederate President Jefferson Davis' own slaves eavesdropped on his meetings--and passed information to Union agents, who were often Black women.
One of the more brazen acts of resistance came on the morning of May 13, 1862. Robert Smalls and a crew of seven other slaves snuck aboard the Confederate ship Planter with their families and piloted it over to Union lines. Smalls joined the Union Navy--and later became a five-term member of Congress from South Carolina during the short-lived Reconstruction era.
African American resistance is important to note because conservative historians attempted to obliterate this record.
Who freed the slaves?
The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says United Nations
The United Nations released its final report this week outlining a host of concerns about the treatment of African-Americans in the United States.
In short, it isn’t pretty, and it’s a reflection of what many activists have been saying for a long time.
The 22-page document issued by the U.N. Working Group includes 37 “manifestations of racial discrimination” in criminal justice, health care, education, and more.
Many of the conclusions relate to criminal justice, specifically policing and incarceration and their relation to history.
"In particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remains a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent," the report states. "Contemporary police killings and the trauma that they create are reminiscent of the past racial terror of lynching. Impunity for State violence has resulted in the current human rights crisis and must be addressed as a matter of urgency."
The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says U.N. Report
Those whites who died fighting were paid. You don't get reparations for choosing to join the army. And as you see if you can read are that the violations extend to today and are not just about slavery.
Blacks today are owed nothing. How do you know who is or who is not a decendent of slaves? How do you pay those mixed people who's parents were blacks who willingly had children with whites? How about everyone work for what they get and not expect handouts, that is what that is. I can't control whether or not the Native Americans get reparations. This does not mean everyone who had oppressed ancestors are due something.You were not a slave, you are due nothing from slavery. So, you are saying because a white man was free but chose to fight for the blacks to be free, they aren't worthy of compensation too? If it weren't for them, blacks might not have gained their freedom.True, what about all the white descendants of the whites who died fighting for blacks to be free? Their lives were cut short, thus they didn't live to succeed in life. How would anyone determine who gets what and how much?How many generations do we go back?
Just so I can be ready.....
I'm guessing that the only cotton you picked came out of an aspirin bottle.
True?
OK let's play your little game of whites died for us to be free. Whites were free. They died choosing to fight. Let me repeat. The whites were free. The blacks were not. Blacks had no choice. In addition whites were paid for their labor, not owned as property, had the freedom to go wherever they wanted, not just where their owners said they could go, and were considered citizens with full rights. So I must ask, do you guys even think before you start posting these comments? What reparations would whites be entitled to for fighting to free people who were supposed to already be free according to the constitution? Really do you guys even think? You are paying reparations to Native Americans every year. So again, do you guys even think before you hit the post reply button?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Who freed the slaves?
Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was limited to freeing only slaves in states that had seceded--slave masters in the border states that had remained officially neutral were exempt, as were any parts of the Confederacy already under Union control. Still, the document was a recognition that the goals of a Union victory to keep the United States together and the destruction of slavery were tied together and inseparable. Since the proclamation could only apply in reality if the North won the war, the Northern army became a de facto army of liberation--with slaves escaping to Union lines to gain their freedom.
Soon thereafter, the Union finally agreed to arm and train Black soldiers. Large numbers of Black men poured into the Union Army, more than half of them former slaves. Their sacrifices were enormous. Blacks suffered a casualty rate 40 percent higher than white soldiers (of the 38,000 who died, only 2,870 were actually killed in combat, reflecting the horrific living conditions for these soldiers.)
Black troops fought in nearly every major campaign. As a result of one battle alone in Virginia, 14 African Americans received the Medal of Honor. Yet these soldiers faced discrimination at every turn--racist treatment at the hands of all-white officers, disparity in pay, the worst assignments, outdated equipment.
Some white officers fought for the dignity of their troops. Robert Gould Shaw, the commander of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, whose story was immortalized in the excellent film Glory, was one example. The entire 54th--including the white officers who weren't subject to unfair wages--refused their unequal pay for an entire year. Towards the end of the war, the government relented and granted full and equal back pay.
Not surprisingly, armed Black soldiers terrified the Confederacy, which vowed to return to slavery or put to death any so-called "slave insurrectionists" caught in uniform (as well as any white officers leading them).
Blacks also played a crucial role in the war effort from behind Southern lines--engaging in sabotage, strikes, individual acts of violence, conspiracy, rebellion and marronage (forming illegal communities.) These slave disturbances drained Confederate resources, with militia and army units forced to patrol at home rather than fight the Union Army.
Confederate President Jefferson Davis' own slaves eavesdropped on his meetings--and passed information to Union agents, who were often Black women.
One of the more brazen acts of resistance came on the morning of May 13, 1862. Robert Smalls and a crew of seven other slaves snuck aboard the Confederate ship Planter with their families and piloted it over to Union lines. Smalls joined the Union Navy--and later became a five-term member of Congress from South Carolina during the short-lived Reconstruction era.
African American resistance is important to note because conservative historians attempted to obliterate this record.
Who freed the slaves?
The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says United Nations
The United Nations released its final report this week outlining a host of concerns about the treatment of African-Americans in the United States.
In short, it isn’t pretty, and it’s a reflection of what many activists have been saying for a long time.
The 22-page document issued by the U.N. Working Group includes 37 “manifestations of racial discrimination” in criminal justice, health care, education, and more.
Many of the conclusions relate to criminal justice, specifically policing and incarceration and their relation to history.
"In particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remains a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent," the report states. "Contemporary police killings and the trauma that they create are reminiscent of the past racial terror of lynching. Impunity for State violence has resulted in the current human rights crisis and must be addressed as a matter of urgency."
The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says U.N. Report
Those whites who died fighting were paid. You don't get reparations for choosing to join the army. And as you see if you can read are that the violations extend to today and are not just about slavery.
Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.
"Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue."Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.
Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.
This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.
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Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.
This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.
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The Russians need do nothing. Without screaming "racism" there would be no democratic party.
Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?What a crock. In the US today the overwhelming number of people couldn't give a hoot about the color of peoples skin or their ethnic background. If the ramblings of idiots on the web is "evidence" of anything for you, you need to get out more. The fact is with every passing year race means less and less to pretty much everyone in this country, a fact that drives some people crazy, mostly on the left. The idea that a handful of idiots with tiki torches somehow is the harbinger of the rise of nazis is absurd.
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.
This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.
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The Russians need do nothing. Without screaming "racism" there would be no democratic party.
True, what about all the white descendants of the whites who died fighting for blacks to be free? Their lives were cut short, thus they didn't live to succeed in life. How would anyone determine who gets what and how much?The past is not a memory, as it existed whether you witnessed it to remember it or not. The past is ENERGY that transcends the temporal continuum. The energy of the past illuminates the present.
How many generations do we go back?
Just so I can be ready.....
I'm guessing that the only cotton you picked came out of an aspirin bottle.
True?
OK let's play your little game of whites died for us to be free. Whites were free. They died choosing to fight. Let me repeat. The whites were free. The blacks were not. Blacks had no choice. In addition whites were paid for their labor, not owned as property, had the freedom to go wherever they wanted, not just where their owners said they could go, and were considered citizens with full rights. So I must ask, do you guys even think before you start posting these comments? What reparations would whites be entitled to for fighting to free people who were supposed to already be free according to the constitution? Really do you guys even think? You are paying reparations to Native Americans every year. So again, do you guys even think before you hit the post reply button?
"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.
And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption
Who cares what you think? Northern whites did not die to free the fucking slaves. You claim t be Asian so if you are Japanese, it would be wise for you to shut the hell up. Very wise. Pay heed to what I'm telling you. .
OH! This should be good! Obnoxia VS The Black Psychosis.True, what about all the white descendants of the whites who died fighting for blacks to be free? Their lives were cut short, thus they didn't live to succeed in life. How would anyone determine who gets what and how much?How many generations do we go back?
Just so I can be ready.....
I'm guessing that the only cotton you picked came out of an aspirin bottle.
True?
OK let's play your little game of whites died for us to be free. Whites were free. They died choosing to fight. Let me repeat. The whites were free. The blacks were not. Blacks had no choice. In addition whites were paid for their labor, not owned as property, had the freedom to go wherever they wanted, not just where their owners said they could go, and were considered citizens with full rights. So I must ask, do you guys even think before you start posting these comments? What reparations would whites be entitled to for fighting to free people who were supposed to already be free according to the constitution? Really do you guys even think? You are paying reparations to Native Americans every year. So again, do you guys even think before you hit the post reply button?
"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.
And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption
Who cares what you think? Northern whites did not die to free the fucking slaves. You claim t be Asian so if you are Japanese, it would be wise for you to shut the hell up. Very wise. Pay heed to what I'm telling you. .
I love it when I force the less intelligent to demand that I "shut the hell up."
It translates to " I wish I had an articulate argument to counter yours!!!!!"
You don't, and I won't.
You'd best gather a supply of antacids, you fool.
Blacks today are owed nothing. How do you know who is or who is not a decendent of slaves? How do you pay those mixed people who's parents were blacks who willingly had children with whites? How about everyone work for what they get and not expect handouts, that is what that is. I can't control whether or not the Native Americans get reparations. This does not mean everyone who had oppressed ancestors are due something.You were not a slave, you are due nothing from slavery. So, you are saying because a white man was free but chose to fight for the blacks to be free, they aren't worthy of compensation too? If it weren't for them, blacks might not have gained their freedom.True, what about all the white descendants of the whites who died fighting for blacks to be free? Their lives were cut short, thus they didn't live to succeed in life. How would anyone determine who gets what and how much?
OK let's play your little game of whites died for us to be free. Whites were free. They died choosing to fight. Let me repeat. The whites were free. The blacks were not. Blacks had no choice. In addition whites were paid for their labor, not owned as property, had the freedom to go wherever they wanted, not just where their owners said they could go, and were considered citizens with full rights. So I must ask, do you guys even think before you start posting these comments? What reparations would whites be entitled to for fighting to free people who were supposed to already be free according to the constitution? Really do you guys even think? You are paying reparations to Native Americans every year. So again, do you guys even think before you hit the post reply button?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Who freed the slaves?
Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was limited to freeing only slaves in states that had seceded--slave masters in the border states that had remained officially neutral were exempt, as were any parts of the Confederacy already under Union control. Still, the document was a recognition that the goals of a Union victory to keep the United States together and the destruction of slavery were tied together and inseparable. Since the proclamation could only apply in reality if the North won the war, the Northern army became a de facto army of liberation--with slaves escaping to Union lines to gain their freedom.
Soon thereafter, the Union finally agreed to arm and train Black soldiers. Large numbers of Black men poured into the Union Army, more than half of them former slaves. Their sacrifices were enormous. Blacks suffered a casualty rate 40 percent higher than white soldiers (of the 38,000 who died, only 2,870 were actually killed in combat, reflecting the horrific living conditions for these soldiers.)
Black troops fought in nearly every major campaign. As a result of one battle alone in Virginia, 14 African Americans received the Medal of Honor. Yet these soldiers faced discrimination at every turn--racist treatment at the hands of all-white officers, disparity in pay, the worst assignments, outdated equipment.
Some white officers fought for the dignity of their troops. Robert Gould Shaw, the commander of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, whose story was immortalized in the excellent film Glory, was one example. The entire 54th--including the white officers who weren't subject to unfair wages--refused their unequal pay for an entire year. Towards the end of the war, the government relented and granted full and equal back pay.
Not surprisingly, armed Black soldiers terrified the Confederacy, which vowed to return to slavery or put to death any so-called "slave insurrectionists" caught in uniform (as well as any white officers leading them).
Blacks also played a crucial role in the war effort from behind Southern lines--engaging in sabotage, strikes, individual acts of violence, conspiracy, rebellion and marronage (forming illegal communities.) These slave disturbances drained Confederate resources, with militia and army units forced to patrol at home rather than fight the Union Army.
Confederate President Jefferson Davis' own slaves eavesdropped on his meetings--and passed information to Union agents, who were often Black women.
One of the more brazen acts of resistance came on the morning of May 13, 1862. Robert Smalls and a crew of seven other slaves snuck aboard the Confederate ship Planter with their families and piloted it over to Union lines. Smalls joined the Union Navy--and later became a five-term member of Congress from South Carolina during the short-lived Reconstruction era.
African American resistance is important to note because conservative historians attempted to obliterate this record.
Who freed the slaves?
The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says United Nations
The United Nations released its final report this week outlining a host of concerns about the treatment of African-Americans in the United States.
In short, it isn’t pretty, and it’s a reflection of what many activists have been saying for a long time.
The 22-page document issued by the U.N. Working Group includes 37 “manifestations of racial discrimination” in criminal justice, health care, education, and more.
Many of the conclusions relate to criminal justice, specifically policing and incarceration and their relation to history.
"In particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remains a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent," the report states. "Contemporary police killings and the trauma that they create are reminiscent of the past racial terror of lynching. Impunity for State violence has resulted in the current human rights crisis and must be addressed as a matter of urgency."
The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says U.N. Report
Those whites who died fighting were paid. You don't get reparations for choosing to join the army. And as you see if you can read are that the violations extend to today and are not just about slavery.
Blacks today are owed. Your excuses do not cover for the fact that all who were wronged by this government have got reparations but us. You are just repeating silly white racist opinion without thinking. Whites have not worked get what they have. You've been shown that. This is not just about slavery. But you are dumb so you don't have the capacity to understand that reality. So run along molly because you're dumb and until you get better informed maybe you'd better off staying quiet untii you are.
Evidence of present day or contemporary racism persisted unabashed during Obama's presidency. This message board is full of examples. And after reviewing other boards and media, I discovered the anti-Black racism reflected here is viral and has spread to every corner of the USA and beyond.There is no way to prove that. So please spare us.I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in regards to intelligence. Thus, I assume that you or any one who concludes that blacks are more racist than whites, are as smart as I am...if not smarter. Hence, if I know that the belief that blacks are more racist than whites is false, what prevents people like you from knowing it too?
If an intelligent person cannot figure out the correct answer to a simple question, when all the information is there to get the right answer, its because the intelligent persons intellect is being subdued by emotions and prejudice. There is a clear reason why people like you have to be "educated by force" on such matters. Its because you don't want to be educated, but rather, to believe what your prejudice and emotions want you to believe. Even when forced fed the truth....you stick your finger down your throat to throw it back up.
America has as many racist whites as it has ever has in its history. What different today is that there are also many whites who are not like that and don't feel that they have to pretend to be that way or to be silent about the racism of other, just to get along and fit in. There are a lot of racist white people and there are a lot of white people who are not racist. The former just seek to camouflage themselves as the latter.
You have history on your side but like almost every thread on race you post in, you dont have the present.
Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?
On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.
Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.
This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.
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The Russians need do nothing. Without screaming "racism" there would be no democratic party.
Your an idiot. In what none dictatorial political construct does there not exist an opposition party? If you think that liberalism is based upon race, the world over, you are an idiot.
In conclusion: You are an idiot.
