Are These Reasonable Regulations of Guns? or Harassment of Gun Owners?

[Uncensored2008]

I don't agree with #3 or the last 2 bullet points.

Also #2 needs to ban any weapon with quick change magazines. We don't need any more Vegas shooters firing 1500 rounds into crowds. 15 rounds is more than anyone needs to protect family.

Morons....the magazines had nothing to do with the body count, it was the choice of target.....

Vegas shooter...firing into a tightly packed, unaware crowd of over 22,000 people, from a concealed and fortified position...

58 killed.

muslim terrorist using a rental truck and 5 minutes of driving through a crowd...

86 killed....

You morons...

Gilroy....rifle with detachable magazine...3 killed.

Navy Yard shooter, with 5 shot, tube fed pump action shotgun...12 killed.

Russia, polytechnich school shooter, with a 5 shot, tube fed, pump action shotgun...20 killed 40 injured.

You morons don't know what you are talking about...it is never about the weapon or magazine, but always about the choice of target and the ability of the shooter to shoot unarmed people, and how long it takes for someone to shoot back at them to stop them...

The shooter also fired from several positions on several floors simultaneously. That allowed him to create a cross fire and herd the victims into a kill zone.

 

[KissMy]

Repubtards banned full auto, machine guns, gatling guns, bump stocks, etc

no, you don't but tyrants creating laws that only benefit them is nothing to joke about.

The next time you`re stopped and disarmed at a metal detector give the police your little "infringement" speech

THOSE red flag laws are created for one purpose to legally confiscate firearms

Republicans also won't allow citizen to own weaponized militarized fighter jets

They will never allow citizens to have a level of arms To prevent them from forcing their will on you[/QUOTE]

The largest stand army is the private citizens in the U.S. 150 million gun owners with over 500 million guns

And, we have politicians begging for that power- which makes absolutely 0 sense in a Country that was founded on the principles of Natural Rights being protected from intrusion by law makers into the every day life of inhabitants- "shall not be infringed" is the declarative. Period

And this is why the 2nd is toast, like most of our constitution , the Gub'Mit has already 'infringed' limits & specifications

Further, the easiest way to subjugate any populace , is to make them feel they are not, feel they're protectors.....

So, all of you pinning away for your civil war can squabble over the infringment your arsenal has succumbed to

Those that take up arms probably won't last until the news team arrives , those that do survive will be considered domestic terrorists , and have no rights at all under the PA

now who's joking?

~S~

My right to self-defense predates any form of government. My right to self-defense exists where I step and as far as I can see. it doesn't stop at my property it exceeds past county State and Country lines. If I am there my right is there with me.

Full Auto Belt Fed / Quick Change Large Cap Mags will cause you to lose In a real revolution / civil war situation, because you will waste all your ammo, give away your location, need larger vulnerable supply lines, more mined resources, more manufacturing & be slowed down packing a lot more weight. TV show suppressive gunfire is a real life joke.

Belt fed guns & quick change mags only benefit mass murder like the SS mowing down prisoners at burial sights during Holocaust, or a nutjob shooting at 60,000 football fans packed like sardines in a stadium.

What is your point that you are trying to make? Please stop showing your ignorance
Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

The only one who is ignorant is you. You must believe you alone will stop government. In reality, you will have to supply everyone around you and most of them will spray all that ammo at the ground unless disciplined by a shooting speed limit.

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already. They blew up you & your stockpiles before you had a chance to see them.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Repubtards banned full auto, machine guns, gatling guns, bump stocks, etc

no, you don't but tyrants creating laws that only benefit them is nothing to joke about.

The next time you`re stopped and disarmed at a metal detector give the police your little "infringement" speech

THOSE red flag laws are created for one purpose to legally confiscate firearms

Republicans also won't allow citizen to own weaponized militarized fighter jets

They will never allow citizens to have a level of arms To prevent them from forcing their will on you[/QUOTE]

And this is why the 2nd is toast, like most of our constitution , the Gub'Mit has already 'infringed' limits & specifications

Further, the easiest way to subjugate any populace , is to make them feel they are not, feel they're protectors.....

So, all of you pinning away for your civil war can squabble over the infringment your arsenal has succumbed to

Those that take up arms probably won't last until the news team arrives , those that do survive will be considered domestic terrorists , and have no rights at all under the PA

now who's joking?

~S~

My right to self-defense predates any form of government. My right to self-defense exists where I step and as far as I can see. it doesn't stop at my property it exceeds past county State and Country lines. If I am there my right is there with me.

Full Auto Belt Fed / Quick Change Large Cap Mags will cause you to lose In a real revolution / civil war situation, because you will waste all your ammo, give away your location, need larger vulnerable supply lines, more mined resources, more manufacturing & be slowed down packing a lot more weight. TV show suppressive gunfire is a real life joke.

Belt fed guns & quick change mags only benefit mass murder like the SS mowing down prisoners at burial sights during Holocaust, or a nutjob shooting at 60,000 football fans packed like sardines in a stadium.

What is your point that you are trying to make? Please stop showing your ignorance
Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

The only one who is ignorant is you. You must believe you alone will stop government. In reality, you will have to supply everyone around you and most of them will spray all that ammo at the ground unless disciplined by a shooting speed limit.

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already. They blew up you & your stockpiles before you had a chance to see them.

Thing is I'm not alone and more people have a lot more than I could ever dream of having lol
I only said what I said about me just imagine millions more out there

 

[miketx]

Repubtards banned full auto, machine guns, gatling guns, bump stocks, etc

no, you don't but tyrants creating laws that only benefit them is nothing to joke about.

The next time you`re stopped and disarmed at a metal detector give the police your little "infringement" speech

THOSE red flag laws are created for one purpose to legally confiscate firearms

Republicans also won't allow citizen to own weaponized militarized fighter jets

They will never allow citizens to have a level of arms To prevent them from forcing their will on you[/QUOTE]

And this is why the 2nd is toast, like most of our constitution , the Gub'Mit has already 'infringed' limits & specifications

Further, the easiest way to subjugate any populace , is to make them feel they are not, feel they're protectors.....

So, all of you pinning away for your civil war can squabble over the infringment your arsenal has succumbed to

Those that take up arms probably won't last until the news team arrives , those that do survive will be considered domestic terrorists , and have no rights at all under the PA

now who's joking?

~S~

My right to self-defense predates any form of government. My right to self-defense exists where I step and as far as I can see. it doesn't stop at my property it exceeds past county State and Country lines. If I am there my right is there with me.

Full Auto Belt Fed / Quick Change Large Cap Mags will cause you to lose In a real revolution / civil war situation, because you will waste all your ammo, give away your location, need larger vulnerable supply lines, more mined resources, more manufacturing & be slowed down packing a lot more weight. TV show suppressive gunfire is a real life joke.

Belt fed guns & quick change mags only benefit mass murder like the SS mowing down prisoners at burial sights during Holocaust, or a nutjob shooting at 60,000 football fans packed like sardines in a stadium.

What is your point that you are trying to make? Please stop showing your ignorance
Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

The only one who is ignorant is you. You must believe you alone will stop government. In reality, you will have to supply everyone around you and most of them will spray all that ammo at the ground unless disciplined by a shooting speed limit.

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already. They blew up you & your stockpiles before you had a chance to see them.

Do you have a daily goal of posting more stupid remarks as the day goes on?

 

[sparky]

Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

which is fine if you're holding off the indians in 1840...

They believe that means we are in charge

Which is what they WANT you to believe

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already.

it's just one infringement after the next around here...

I only said what I said about me just imagine millions more out there

F16 Fodder.....

So once again, our 2nd is infringed in so many GubMit ways , you folks have a hard time seeing the forest from the constitutional sleeze

Further, you'd THINK the NRA would be taking a stand on the guttural evisceration that's happened to the 2nd..?

show me.....

Guess they're more interested in gun sales, the 2nd serving them no more than a catalyst .....

Welcome to the new Orwellian order

~S~

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Firearms FAQs

"If you are selling to a non-immediate family member, a background check must be done by an FFL (Federal Firearm Licensee). However, immediate family members do not need background checks done to transfer firearms between one another. The firearm should not be transferred to any family member who is prohibited from purchasing and/or possessing firearm. Immediate family is defined as spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles (in-laws do not apply). (CRS 18-12-112)"

Translation. If you do transfer the weapon to another family member and they cannot pass a background check, guess what, Class 6 felony on you. Common sense is that you still do a background check on even a family member no matter what. Plus, if there is no record of that sale or transfer, even if it's a simple background check, then you are liable for any crimes that that weapon may be used in. Do the Background check to cover your ass. If not, then maybe you don't have the common sense to own it in the first place.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

[
Jim, everything I am seeing here is vary badly worded. Some worse than others. I am not sure we are looking at the exact legal verbiage of the proposed legislation and would like to see the bill numbers so I might log in and read the actual legislation myself, not from a pro-gun magazine.
I have no problem with comprehensive background checks, and it has nothing to do with giving your young son a rifle or shotgun. You are still responsible for the weapon and your child's access to it. Did a lot of hunting on my own and with my friend in teenage days, but dad knew when and where I was going and weapons in the house were stored where he wanted them stored.

That "Dangerous weapon" bullet point is a deal breaker. I have no problem with semi-automatic rifles whether they look military styled or not. On your own property or a range designed for that weapon's range, I'm good. I am not in favor of bump stocks or modified full auto weapons. Their only real use is for kicking doors and spraying a lot of rounds only loosely aimed after first 3 rounds. The longer you hold the trigger, the worse your aim. Anybody tells you different is full of sh#t. Silencers are strictly offensive and I would ban further sale. If some dumb ass is shooting at me, I would like to be able to zero in on the sound. Silencers I have used, muffled the shot not silenced it, but was enough at 50 yards to make much harder to zero in on the sound, especially around buildings. These are weapons that belong in the home, on the farm or on the appropriate range, not in your car going to Kroger, work, or just riding around town. Nobody ever has the right to take away what you already legally own, now.

One gun handgun purchase in 30 days is stupid if you have to get a background check on every sale or every separate day sale.

Two days should be time frame to report missing weapons. Anybody that doesn't do a weapons and ammunition check by the day after he gets back from vacation is an idiot and they should be stored and accounted for securely. I like a flash drive not stored with the weapons or ammo that includes pictures and serial numbers. I figure it might help me get it back or at least be good for insurance purposes.

Protective orders may be necessary, but there should always be a hearing and you should be reimbursed for reasonable legal fees whether you are allowed to keep your weapon or not. Not uncommon in families to take weapons access away from Alzheimer patients, or senile members, or other mental conditions, but if the state is taking them at the behest of family or 3rd parties you should be protected, and nobody should be able to sell or give away your weapons without your signed approval until you are dead, no matter how senile you are.

Same safeguards for final protective.

Enhanced punishment for leaving weapons accessible to kids. Sounds good to me. Raise age 14 to 18. Sounds good to me, also. Kids are immature, erratic, often just plain stupid and like to show friends what is laying around the house, sometimes taking them out in public without your knowledge. You are responsible for weapons in your home, not your kid.

Weapons regulations as absolutely should be at state or federal level and not a mishmash across every county, town, berg and wide spot in the road.

First off, I never had a desire to have a bump stock never had one. But it is private property and that's why I would defend the ownership. Have you ever shot a rifle that had a bump stock attached? using one puts your body in an unnatural shooting position. You can take a simple rubber band and do better with that than a bump stock.for a lot cheaper and it doesn't put you shooting stance in an awkward position.

Repubtards banned full auto, machine guns, gatling guns, bump stocks, etc, but they actually cause shooters to waste more ammo & kill fewer people. The only gun ban that can greatly reduce injury & body count by a maniac, would be any that don't allow magazines to be easily replaced.

Its' called "Within Reason". And in every Court in the US the term "Within Reason" is constantly used and supported. And not allowing detachable Mags is "Beyond Reason" like the first weapons and accesories you mentioned. Colorado found a sweet spot of limiting the mag to 15. By pure accident, they found that the Courts would find that reasonable. California tried to pass the same law at 10 and it was bounced. I don't know but I imagine they did the same thing that Colorado did and adjusted the law to 15 as well. The 9th Court bounced the 10 round but did mention the "Heller Rule" but did not specifically say the number of rounds but they did mention 15 or more. Within Reason.

So you can stop trying to frighten small children. We aren't small children. We are Reasonable Adults.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Repubtards steal money from citizens to build up the police & military to force citizens to obey their laws. They will never allow citizens to have a level of arms To prevent them from forcing their will on you

The largest stand army is the private citizens in the U.S. 150 million gun owners with over 500 million guns

Why have a military at all if we have the Walmart militia?

And exactly how did that work out in that Texas Walley World where there were at least 40 armed people in that Walmart. Prove it, you say? It's Texas for crying out loud.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And this is why the 2nd is toast, like most of our constitution , the Gub'Mit has already 'infringed' limits & specifications

Further, the easiest way to subjugate any populace , is to make them feel they are not, feel they're protectors.....

So, all of you pinning away for your civil war can squabble over the infringment your arsenal has succumbed to

Those that take up arms probably won't last until the news team arrives , those that do survive will be considered domestic terrorists , and have no rights at all under the PA

now who's joking?

~S~

My right to self-defense predates any form of government. My right to self-defense exists where I step and as far as I can see. it doesn't stop at my property it exceeds past county State and Country lines. If I am there my right is there with me.

Full Auto Belt Fed / Quick Change Large Cap Mags will cause you to lose In a real revolution / civil war situation, because you will waste all your ammo, give away your location, need larger vulnerable supply lines, more mined resources, more manufacturing & be slowed down packing a lot more weight. TV show suppressive gunfire is a real life joke.

Belt fed guns & quick change mags only benefit mass murder like the SS mowing down prisoners at burial sights during Holocaust, or a nutjob shooting at 60,000 football fans packed like sardines in a stadium.

What is your point that you are trying to make? Please stop showing your ignorance
Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

The only one who is ignorant is you. You must believe you alone will stop government. In reality, you will have to supply everyone around you and most of them will spray all that ammo at the ground unless disciplined by a shooting speed limit.

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already. They blew up you & your stockpiles before you had a chance to see them.

Do you have a daily goal of posting more stupid remarks as the day goes on?

Nah, he just gets increasingly drunk as the day goes on...

 

[Auld Phart]

Firearms FAQs

"If you are selling to a non-immediate family member, a background check must be done by an FFL (Federal Firearm Licensee). However, immediate family members do not need background checks done to transfer firearms between one another. The firearm should not be transferred to any family member who is prohibited from purchasing and/or possessing firearm. Immediate family is defined as spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles (in-laws do not apply). (CRS 18-12-112)"

Translation. If you do transfer the weapon to another family member and they cannot pass a background check, guess what, Class 6 felony on you. Common sense is that you still do a background check on even a family member no matter what. Plus, if there is no record of that sale or transfer, even if it's a simple background check, then you are liable for any crimes that that weapon may be used in. Do the Background check to cover your ass. If not, then maybe you don't have the common sense to own it in the first place.

Translation?

No

Spin?

Yes.

"However, immediate family members do not need background checks done to transfer firearms between one another. "

"The firearm should not be transferred to any family member who is prohibited from purchasing and/or possessing firearm."

Duh

but not prohibited by law, apparently

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

which is fine if you're holding off the indians in 1840...

They believe that means we are in charge

Which is what they WANT you to believe

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already.

it's just one infringement after the next around here...

I only said what I said about me just imagine millions more out there

F16 Fodder.....

So once again, our 2nd is infringed in so many GubMit ways , you folks have a hard time seeing the forest from the constitutional sleeze

Further, you'd THINK the NRA would be taking a stand on the guttural evisceration that's happened to the 2nd..?

show me.....

Guess they're more interested in gun sales, the 2nd serving them no more than a catalyst .....

Welcome to the new Orwellian order

~S~

You communists, always so convinced that the military will violate their oath and help you overthrow the Constitution...

I fear when the time comes, you will be sorely, and fatally, disappointed.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Firearms FAQs

"If you are selling to a non-immediate family member, a background check must be done by an FFL (Federal Firearm Licensee). However, immediate family members do not need background checks done to transfer firearms between one another. The firearm should not be transferred to any family member who is prohibited from purchasing and/or possessing firearm. Immediate family is defined as spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles (in-laws do not apply). (CRS 18-12-112)"

Translation. If you do transfer the weapon to another family member and they cannot pass a background check, guess what, Class 6 felony on you. Common sense is that you still do a background check on even a family member no matter what. Plus, if there is no record of that sale or transfer, even if it's a simple background check, then you are liable for any crimes that that weapon may be used in. Do the Background check to cover your ass. If not, then maybe you don't have the common sense to own it in the first place.

Translation?

No

Spin?

Yes.

"However, immediate family members do not need background checks done to transfer firearms between one another. "

"The firearm should not be transferred to any family member who is prohibited from purchasing and/or possessing firearm."

Duh

but not prohibited by law, apparently

No spin, just common sense. And Colorado has worked hard and spent millions in court fees to come up with those Common Sense Gun Regs. I guess they figure that "We the People" are going to use a bit of common sense ourselves.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

which is fine if you're holding off the indians in 1840...

They believe that means we are in charge

Which is what they WANT you to believe

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already.

it's just one infringement after the next around here...

I only said what I said about me just imagine millions more out there

F16 Fodder.....

So once again, our 2nd is infringed in so many GubMit ways , you folks have a hard time seeing the forest from the constitutional sleeze

Further, you'd THINK the NRA would be taking a stand on the guttural evisceration that's happened to the 2nd..?

show me.....

Guess they're more interested in gun sales, the 2nd serving them no more than a catalyst .....

Welcome to the new Orwellian order

~S~

You communists, always so convinced that the military will violate their oath and help you overthrow the Constitution...

I fear when the time comes, you will be sorely, and fatally, disappointed.

Wait a minute now. I am confused. Both sides are calling the other side Communists. Life just doesn't make any sense anymore. And it's too cold to go fishing to iron things out.

 

[Auld Phart]

Firearms FAQs

"If you are selling to a non-immediate family member, a background check must be done by an FFL (Federal Firearm Licensee). However, immediate family members do not need background checks done to transfer firearms between one another. The firearm should not be transferred to any family member who is prohibited from purchasing and/or possessing firearm. Immediate family is defined as spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles (in-laws do not apply). (CRS 18-12-112)"

Translation. If you do transfer the weapon to another family member and they cannot pass a background check, guess what, Class 6 felony on you. Common sense is that you still do a background check on even a family member no matter what. Plus, if there is no record of that sale or transfer, even if it's a simple background check, then you are liable for any crimes that that weapon may be used in. Do the Background check to cover your ass. If not, then maybe you don't have the common sense to own it in the first place.

Translation?

No

Spin?

Yes.

"However, immediate family members do not need background checks done to transfer firearms between one another. "

"The firearm should not be transferred to any family member who is prohibited from purchasing and/or possessing firearm."

Duh

but not prohibited by law, apparently

No spin, just common sense. And Colorado has worked hard and spent millions in court fees to come up with those Common Sense Gun Regs. I guess they figure that "We the People" are going to use a bit of common sense ourselves.

Good for them.

the fact remains, there is no law stating you need to do a background check if you give a firearm to a relative

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dude I alone have over a thousand magazines with over 28,000 rounds of ammo stored in one of my places and just for one of my rifles triple that for the others located in different places. years and years of buying 2 magazines and three boxes of ammo will get you a lot.

which is fine if you're holding off the indians in 1840...

They believe that means we are in charge

Which is what they WANT you to believe

Also you didn't say you have any 81mm mortars stockpiled, so you lost already.

it's just one infringement after the next around here...

I only said what I said about me just imagine millions more out there

F16 Fodder.....

So once again, our 2nd is infringed in so many GubMit ways , you folks have a hard time seeing the forest from the constitutional sleeze

Further, you'd THINK the NRA would be taking a stand on the guttural evisceration that's happened to the 2nd..?

show me.....

Guess they're more interested in gun sales, the 2nd serving them no more than a catalyst .....

Welcome to the new Orwellian order

~S~

You communists, always so convinced that the military will violate their oath and help you overthrow the Constitution...

I fear when the time comes, you will be sorely, and fatally, disappointed.

Wait a minute now. I am confused. Both sides are calling the other side Communists. Life just doesn't make any sense anymore. And it's too cold to go fishing to iron things out.

Do you know what Communism is, or what it entails?

Only one party seeks an authoritarian dictatorship when the means of production are controlled by the central authority based on socialist redistribution of wealth.

Calling Republicans "Communist" is utterly stupid, the act of a moron. Which is an apt description for democrats.

 

[Dana7360]

These are the new anti-gun laws that the Virginia Dimocrats are set to pass ASAP.

Here's the List of Bills Anti-Gunners Plan to Enact in Virginia - GunsAmerica Digest

The list from local news affiliate WSET:

• Legislation requiring background checks on all firearms sales and transactions. The bill mandates that any person selling, renting, trading, or transferring a firearm must first obtain the results of a background check before completing the transaction.
• Legislation banning dangerous weapons. This will include bans on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines, bump stocks and silencers.
• Legislation to reinstate Virginia’s successful law allowing only one handgun purchase within a 30-day period.
• Legislation requiring that lost and stolen firearms be reported to law enforcement within 24 hours.
• Legislation creating an Extreme Risk Protective Order, allowing law enforcement and the courts to temporarily separate a person from firearms if the person exhibits dangerous behavior that presents an immediate threat to self or others.
• Legislation prohibiting all individuals subject to final protective orders from possessing firearms. The bill expands Virginia law which currently prohibits individuals subject to final protective orders of family abuse from possessing firearms.
• Legislation enhancing the punishment for allowing access to loaded, unsecured firearm by a child from a Class 3 Misdemeanor to a Class 6 felony. The bill also raises the age of the child from 14 to 18.
• Legislation enabling localities to enact any firearms ordinances that are stricter than state law. This includes regulating firearms in municipal buildings, libraries and at permitted events.

It sounds reasonable to me.

My state has most of those laws.

The far right radical extremists who want to keep safety laws for weapons off the books have caused these laws to be needed.

If they had compromised, if they had tried to find things we can agree on and live with, maybe the new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

If they had not removed safety laws, if they had not passed laws that allow anyone to have a weapon, if they had not allowed laws that allows mass shootings to happen, maybe the new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

If the far right radical extremists had not forced their way or nothing at all, maybe those new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

And maybe, more people would still be alive today instead of dead from mass shootings.

 

[Auld Phart]

These are the new anti-gun laws that the Virginia Dimocrats are set to pass ASAP.

Here's the List of Bills Anti-Gunners Plan to Enact in Virginia - GunsAmerica Digest

The list from local news affiliate WSET:

• Legislation requiring background checks on all firearms sales and transactions. The bill mandates that any person selling, renting, trading, or transferring a firearm must first obtain the results of a background check before completing the transaction.
• Legislation banning dangerous weapons. This will include bans on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines, bump stocks and silencers.
• Legislation to reinstate Virginia’s successful law allowing only one handgun purchase within a 30-day period.
• Legislation requiring that lost and stolen firearms be reported to law enforcement within 24 hours.
• Legislation creating an Extreme Risk Protective Order, allowing law enforcement and the courts to temporarily separate a person from firearms if the person exhibits dangerous behavior that presents an immediate threat to self or others.
• Legislation prohibiting all individuals subject to final protective orders from possessing firearms. The bill expands Virginia law which currently prohibits individuals subject to final protective orders of family abuse from possessing firearms.
• Legislation enhancing the punishment for allowing access to loaded, unsecured firearm by a child from a Class 3 Misdemeanor to a Class 6 felony. The bill also raises the age of the child from 14 to 18.
• Legislation enabling localities to enact any firearms ordinances that are stricter than state law. This includes regulating firearms in municipal buildings, libraries and at permitted events.

It sounds reasonable to me.

My state has most of those laws.

The far right radical extremists who want to keep safety laws for weapons off the books have caused these laws to be needed.

If they had compromised, if they had tried to find things we can agree on and live with, maybe the new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

If they had not removed safety laws, if they had not passed laws that allow anyone to have a weapon, if they had not allowed laws that allows mass shootings to happen, maybe the new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

If the far right radical extremists had not forced their way or nothing at all, maybe those new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

And maybe, more people would still be alive today instead of dead from mass shootings.

If they had not removed safety laws, if they had not passed laws that allow anyone to have a weapon, if they had not allowed laws that allows mass shootings to happen,

Have any examples?

 

[Dana7360]

Also #2 needs to ban any weapon with quick change magazines.

Yeah, because no one would ever need such a thing to fight off a home invasion.

If a person is such a bad shot that they need to use a whole magazine of bullets then change to a new one, they need to be at the firing range to practice.

If a person has not stopped a home invader with the amount of bullets they already have no amount of quick change of a magazine is going to do any good.

Any person who is that bad of a shot shouldn't be owning a weapon.

 

[Gdjjr]

common sense

LOL- gov't legislation is never based in common sense-

 

[miketx]

These are the new anti-gun laws that the Virginia Dimocrats are set to pass ASAP.

Here's the List of Bills Anti-Gunners Plan to Enact in Virginia - GunsAmerica Digest

The list from local news affiliate WSET:

• Legislation requiring background checks on all firearms sales and transactions. The bill mandates that any person selling, renting, trading, or transferring a firearm must first obtain the results of a background check before completing the transaction.
• Legislation banning dangerous weapons. This will include bans on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines, bump stocks and silencers.
• Legislation to reinstate Virginia’s successful law allowing only one handgun purchase within a 30-day period.
• Legislation requiring that lost and stolen firearms be reported to law enforcement within 24 hours.
• Legislation creating an Extreme Risk Protective Order, allowing law enforcement and the courts to temporarily separate a person from firearms if the person exhibits dangerous behavior that presents an immediate threat to self or others.
• Legislation prohibiting all individuals subject to final protective orders from possessing firearms. The bill expands Virginia law which currently prohibits individuals subject to final protective orders of family abuse from possessing firearms.
• Legislation enhancing the punishment for allowing access to loaded, unsecured firearm by a child from a Class 3 Misdemeanor to a Class 6 felony. The bill also raises the age of the child from 14 to 18.
• Legislation enabling localities to enact any firearms ordinances that are stricter than state law. This includes regulating firearms in municipal buildings, libraries and at permitted events.

It sounds reasonable to me.

My state has most of those laws.

The far right radical extremists who want to keep safety laws for weapons off the books have caused these laws to be needed.

If they had compromised, if they had tried to find things we can agree on and live with, maybe the new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

If they had not removed safety laws, if they had not passed laws that allow anyone to have a weapon, if they had not allowed laws that allows mass shootings to happen, maybe the new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

If the far right radical extremists had not forced their way or nothing at all, maybe those new laws wouldn't have been necessary.

And maybe, more people would still be alive today instead of dead from mass shootings.

No because criminals don't obey laws.