Are we ever going to see a return to high playing plant jobs with pension plans, $35 an hour, and double time overtime pay.?

My father worked in a plant manufacturing job for 26 years at General Electric. He worked a skilled position, painting components for washers and driers that could not be painted by robots. For the last few years he worked, he was the only worker in the factory qualified to do that job. If he wasn't there, the line did not run. He retired in the early 1980s and guess what his highest salary was? He made a base hourly wage of less than $8.00 and hour, but worked a 50-hour week, so he had 10 hours of overtime at about $12.00 an hour. Where the heck are these $35.00 an hour jobs? Inflation hasn't been that much!
That sounds like Marion , Ohio.
 
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My dad, uncle and grandfather worked those types of jobs seen above. Along with many millions of Americans, if not many more throughout the 20th century. It was a pro American job. These folks were building America.

Now today the country is almost entirely different. You have a bunch of stay at home dads. Female headed households. Households with a single woman raising four or five kids especially in the inner cities. It wasn’t like this in the 1950s even the 1970s.

Those types of pictures above represented the bulk of middle-class jobs. You can of course throw in truck drivers Perhaps carpenters as well but people know what I’m talking about here. These were the bulk of the middle-class jobs.

So what is it going to be as we dive into the 21st-century. is the American middle-class going to continue to get worse and worse? Under Joe Biden we’ve seen a doubling in the average cost of a home, and a triple in interest rates on loan, compared to what it was under Trump. The middle class has been struggling for decades, but under Joe Biden it got hit really bad.

Is Joe Biden going to give us a better middle class. That’s an honest and open question to Biden and Trump supporters. What do you think? Do we need Donald Trump back?

Or is there going to be some kind of a great CEO like another Henry Ford or Rockefeller that leads the way.??
May Bankrupt Anonymously

A college degree has the same destructive economic effect as a Communist Party membership card did in the defunct Soviet Union. Since the promotion of these bootlicking incompetents immediately into management, instead of the previously successful way of starting at the bottom and working your way up, is never questioned, we will continue to decline.
 

Are we ever going to see a return to high playing plant jobs with pension plans, $35 an hour, and double time overtime pay.?​


No. How in hell do you think American carmakers can compete with foreign companies if they have to pay these kinds of labor costs?
Dogbert Dynasty

If they can't, they don't deserve to be in the management of the companies their workers built for them.
 
May Bankrupt Anonymously

A college degree has the same destructive economic effect as a Communist Party membership card did in the defunct Soviet Union. Since the promotion of these bootlicking incompetents immediately into management, instead of the previously successful way of starting at the bottom and working your way up, is never questioned, we will continue to decline.

The crippling insecurity continues.
 
You can always quit your job and make the $35 per hour.
Unskilled labor does not make $35.00 per hour except in his and your ridiculous fantasies. The most I ever made as a regular hourly employee was $18.00 an hour as a government contractor which was a skilled labor position. In most parts of this country $35.00 an hour is unheard of, and means you are looking at upper middle class status.
 
Depends on the area. With overtime pay or double time pay folks could be making 50 or 70 dollars an hour. This was the case with most plant jobs in the 20th century that employed millions of Americans. They’re overtime pay allowed them to send their kids to college and go on nice vacations. They also had nice pensions. They were building the roads, the bridges, the automobiles, and the buildings We see to this very day all over the country.

Well I read that UPS workers are making over $40 an hour in some areas of the country. Other than that, I haven’t heard much about middle-class jobs to be found across the country. Unless you’re talking about some kind of a skilled trade.

But that job is not for everybody. And it’s not sly in the same demand as what we had in 1950 where are you had one plant that employed 40,000 people. Hell there was one plant in Detroit that employed 200,000 people at one time. Wow This country used to be great
Unpaid Education Is an Insult to Intelligence

You're too stuck on "sending their kids to college." Another piece of propaganda mentioned often is "First in his family to graduate from college." That must become as irrelevant as the never-mentioned "first in his family to play college football."

College can't depend on the parents' income. It must be replaced by highly paid professional training. College athletes get expensive housing, expensive food, and expensive entertainment, in addition to high-paying off-season jobs from rich alumni fans. Six hundred a week plus free tuition seems about right.

It is economically destructive to make going to college a "choice." Students have to be chosen, recruited by those they will work for and given a signing bonus. This will be as substitute for corporate taxes, since rewarding talent up-front will pay for itself many times over in other taxes from huge corporate profits if this strategy is followed.
 
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My dad, uncle and grandfather worked those types of jobs seen above. Along with many millions of Americans, if not many more throughout the 20th century. It was a pro American job. These folks were building America.

Now today the country is almost entirely different. You have a bunch of stay at home dads. Female headed households. Households with a single woman raising four or five kids especially in the inner cities. It wasn’t like this in the 1950s even the 1970s.

Those types of pictures above represented the bulk of middle-class jobs. You can of course throw in truck drivers Perhaps carpenters as well but people know what I’m talking about here. These were the bulk of the middle-class jobs.

So what is it going to be as we dive into the 21st-century. is the American middle-class going to continue to get worse and worse? Under Joe Biden we’ve seen a doubling in the average cost of a home, and a triple in interest rates on loan, compared to what it was under Trump. The middle class has been struggling for decades, but under Joe Biden it got hit really bad.

Is Joe Biden going to give us a better middle class. That’s an honest and open question to Biden and Trump supporters. What do you think? Do we need Donald Trump back?

Or is there going to be some kind of a great CEO like another Henry Ford or Rockefeller that leads the way.??
That shit has been gone since the late 80’s.
 
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My dad, uncle and grandfather worked those types of jobs seen above. Along with many millions of Americans, if not many more throughout the 20th century. It was a pro American job. These folks were building America.

Now today the country is almost entirely different. You have a bunch of stay at home dads. Female headed households. Households with a single woman raising four or five kids especially in the inner cities. It wasn’t like this in the 1950s even the 1970s.

Those types of pictures above represented the bulk of middle-class jobs. You can of course throw in truck drivers Perhaps carpenters as well but people know what I’m talking about here. These were the bulk of the middle-class jobs.

So what is it going to be as we dive into the 21st-century. is the American middle-class going to continue to get worse and worse? Under Joe Biden we’ve seen a doubling in the average cost of a home, and a triple in interest rates on loan, compared to what it was under Trump. The middle class has been struggling for decades, but under Joe Biden it got hit really bad.

Is Joe Biden going to give us a better middle class. That’s an honest and open question to Biden and Trump supporters. What do you think? Do we need Donald Trump back?

Or is there going to be some kind of a great CEO like another Henry Ford or Rockefeller that leads the way.??
No.
 

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