Godboy
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So then you agree that all the protesters blocking traffic should be arrested on sight?In the thread I started a few days ago I said that these protests are no longer about Floyd and probably never were. This is class warfare, pure and simple. Capitalists and capitalism are their real enemy and have been from the beginning. If you asked them today about Floyd they would say "Who?"
Floyd gets taken down and killed for maybe using a fake $20. Angelo Mozilo retires a millionaire after causing taxpayers to lose billions.
And?
Class does play a role in the protests. People are tired of getting beat down for a fraction of what others get away with.
So the answer is to destroy small businesses of innocent people who did NOT bilk people for billions?
If bankers can get away with it, all should be able to.
So your answer to criminal behavior is more criminal behavior perpetrated on even more victims. Is that what you're telling me?
Are we to have a fair and equal justice system or not? Are you saying we shouldn't? I'm saying we have to and there will be one, one way or the other. All get held accountable or we will get one where no one is.
Answer my question first. Your answer to criminal behavior is more criminal behavior perpetrated on even more victims. Is that what you're telling me?
Another question: If you have no qualms about making even more victims then why do you care about them at all? If you have no problem making a victim out of a small business owner then why do you give a shit for embezzlement victims?
I answered your questions. If some can get away with it, I support everyone getting away with it.
You responded to my question with another question. That's not an answer. So again: Your answer to criminal behavior is more criminal behavior perpetrated on even more victims. Is that what you're telling me? Yes or no?
If you want to take the side of law and order, I'll join you as long as those laws apply to everyone .
If the laws don't apply to everyone and you won't join me on the side of law and order for that reason then my taking the side of law and order is irrelevant. Ergo, the caveat "If you want to take the side of law and order..." is moot and pointless.
All you're doing is palming all the work of maintaining law and order off on myself and others. This suggests to me that you are not interested in law and order at all. Your interest is in hoping the rich become victims of lawlessness and you will make victims of the non-rich to see that happen.
It is a cheap, lazy and unprincipled position to take and smacks of animus and spite.
There is no law and order when there are some who can get away with breaking our laws while others can not.
If there are SOME who do not get away with it then that means there is SOME law and order. Your solution to SOME law and order is NO law and order. Do you honestly think this will solve anything?
Saying you are for "law and order" is meaningless.
You just told me that if I'm for law and order then you will join me (albeit, only if everyone else is).
Here is a good example. There are thousands hiring people illegally. How get arrested?
How does that compare to getting arrested for being here illegally?
Charge them all or none.
Do you envision a fantasy world that is completely lawless but where you and everyone you care about would never be a victim? I'll just bet that you would change your tune real quick if someone you love was killed by a drunk driver. Let's see if you continue to stick up for illegal aliens with one of your own on a morgue table.
How many employers of illegal aliens have been arrested? If they aren't, I support not arresting the illegal aliens also.
Are we talking about illegal aliens or law and order? Illegal aliens is but one small aspect of law and order whereas law and order encompasses all crime.
And you still have not answered any questions.
1.) Your answer to criminal behavior is more criminal behavior perpetrated on even more victims. Is that what you're telling me? Yes or no?
2.) Do you envision a fantasy world that is completely lawless but where you and everyone you care about would never be a victim?
And a third question:
3.) If your answer to #2 is no and you know that it's possible that you or someone you care about could be killed and the person not brought to justice, how do you justify your position?
I've answered your question over and over. I support a system where all are held accountable. Not just some. If we refuse that I support anarchy.