Assange

QUOTE="Dschrute3, post: 20428233, member: 60585"]Your Government engages in terrible criminal behavior daily. That's the truth.

Pointing to the criminal behavior of one person does not excuse the criminal behavior of another


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And you have no issues with one of the sides doing it. It just amazes me.

It is you that has no issues with one side doing it, you are the one defending a criminal, not me.


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At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

The truth hurts. Most Americans just wanna live in blissful ignorance. They don't wanna know the evil their Government does in their name. They just wanna stuff their fat faces, shop till they drop at Walmart, and enjoy their porn, sports, and "reality" tv. Ignorance is bliss.
 
Pointing to the criminal behavior of one person does not excuse the criminal behavior of another


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And you have no issues with one of the sides doing it. It just amazes me.

It is you that has no issues with one side doing it, you are the one defending a criminal, not me.


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At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

The truth hurts. Most Americans just wanna live in blissful ignorance. They don't wanna know the evil their Government does in their name. They just wanna stuff their fat faces, shop till they drop at Walmart, and enjoy their porn, sports, and "reality" tv. Ignorance is bliss.
There certainly is some truth to that, however I also tend to think many Americans were brainwashed in the government schools to think their government the best in the world...the most just, honest, and fair minded. They want to believe this. They don't want to believe the truth, that our government is a criminal enterprise run by low lifes.
 
QUOTE="Dschrute3, post: 20428233, member: 60585"]Your Government engages in terrible criminal behavior daily. That's the truth.

Pointing to the criminal behavior of one person does not excuse the criminal behavior of another


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And you have no issues with one of the sides doing it. It just amazes me.

It is you that has no issues with one side doing it, you are the one defending a criminal, not me.


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At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?


If someone breaks into my house and steals my shit but then let’s me know that I have a leaky basement...he still does not deserve my gratitude


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And you have no issues with one of the sides doing it. It just amazes me.

It is you that has no issues with one side doing it, you are the one defending a criminal, not me.


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At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

The truth hurts. Most Americans just wanna live in blissful ignorance. They don't wanna know the evil their Government does in their name. They just wanna stuff their fat faces, shop till they drop at Walmart, and enjoy their porn, sports, and "reality" tv. Ignorance is bliss.
There certainly is some truth to that, however I also tend to think many Americans were brainwashed in the government schools to think their government the best in the world...the most just, honest, and fair minded. They want to believe this. They don't want to believe the truth, that our government is a criminal enterprise run by low lifes.

Yeah, ignorance really is bliss. Americans have their priorities, and the truth isn't one of them. The truth isn't gonna be allowed to interrupt their quest for obesity, shopping till they drop at Walmart, watching their porn & sports, hashtagging stupidity, and so on...
 
Pointing to the criminal behavior of one person does not excuse the criminal behavior of another


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And you have no issues with one of the sides doing it. It just amazes me.

It is you that has no issues with one side doing it, you are the one defending a criminal, not me.


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At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?


If someone breaks into my house and steals my shit but then let’s me know that I have a leaky basement...he still does not deserve my gratitude


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I don't believe that analogy is applicable to Assange. The State must be held accountable. It is the job of journalists to expose the corrupt nature, that is the State. If the State knows it can do whatever it wants without being exposed, well then, we are all damned.
 
And you have no issues with one of the sides doing it. It just amazes me.

It is you that has no issues with one side doing it, you are the one defending a criminal, not me.


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At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?


If someone breaks into my house and steals my shit but then let’s me know that I have a leaky basement...he still does not deserve my gratitude


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I don't believe that analogy is applicable to Assange. The State must be held accountable. It is the job of journalists to expose the corrupt nature, that is the State. If the State knows it can do whatever it wants without being exposed, well then, we are all damned.

The state is still doing whatever it wants. The few crumbs that Assange threw to the masses have changed nothing. Did the NSA stop spying on us all after it was spilled that they were doing it?
 
It is you that has no issues with one side doing it, you are the one defending a criminal, not me.


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At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?


If someone breaks into my house and steals my shit but then let’s me know that I have a leaky basement...he still does not deserve my gratitude


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I don't believe that analogy is applicable to Assange. The State must be held accountable. It is the job of journalists to expose the corrupt nature, that is the State. If the State knows it can do whatever it wants without being exposed, well then, we are all damned.

The state is still doing whatever it wants. The few crumbs that Assange threw to the masses have changed nothing. Did the NSA stop spying on us all after it was spilled that they were doing it?
Good point. However we still need the press to expose government corruption, even though it results in few of any changes. It does have a limiting effect.

Look at Trump now. The MSM is all over him. He knows he can’t get away with corrupt shit, like BO did.
 
At least I'm defending him, you on the other hand have given a complete pass and ignored what the party has been doing. Sounds more like sour grapes that your side was caught with their hand in the cookie jar

There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?


If someone breaks into my house and steals my shit but then let’s me know that I have a leaky basement...he still does not deserve my gratitude


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I don't believe that analogy is applicable to Assange. The State must be held accountable. It is the job of journalists to expose the corrupt nature, that is the State. If the State knows it can do whatever it wants without being exposed, well then, we are all damned.

The state is still doing whatever it wants. The few crumbs that Assange threw to the masses have changed nothing. Did the NSA stop spying on us all after it was spilled that they were doing it?
Good point. However we still need the press to expose government corruption, even though it results in few of any changes. It does have a limiting effect.

Look at Trump now. The MSM is all over him. He knows he can’t get away with corrupt shit, like BO did.


But he is getting away with it because half the nation will not believe anything the MSM tells them. When Trump said he could shoot someone in Time Square and not lose voters, he knew what he was talking about
 
There is no question that Assange is due our gratitude. It is clear that many in the media are owned and controlled by the State. Assange clearly is not. For this and his exposing government corruption and criminality, we owe him a great deal.

Now...what is amazingly absurd about the recent developments on Assange, is the American MSM ALSO wants his scalp. Proof they are owned and controlled by the State. It seems we are living in an Orwellian state more every day.

This from Greenwald exposes the corruption of the American MSM.
Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?

But if, as seems quite likely, the Trump administration finally announces that it intends to prosecute Assange for publishing classified U.S. government documents, we will be faced with the bizarre spectacle of U.S. journalists — who have spent the last two years melodramatically expressing grave concern over press freedom due to insulting tweets from Trump about Wolf Blitzer and Chuck Todd, or his mean treatment of Jim Acosta — possibly cheering for a precedent that would be the gravest press freedom threat in decades.

That precedent would be one that could easily be used to put them in a prison cell alongside Assange for the new “crime” of publishing any documents that the U.S. government has decreed should not be published. When it comes to press freedom threats, such an indictment would not be in the same universe as name-calling tweets by Trump directed at various TV personalities.

When it came to denouncing due process denials and the use of torture at Guantánamo, it was not difficult for journalists to set aside their personal dislike for Al Qaeda sympathizers to denounce the dangers of those human rights and legal abuses. When it comes to free speech assaults, journalists are able to set aside their personal contempt for a person’s opinions to oppose the precedent that the government can punish people for expressing noxious ideas.

It should not be this difficult for journalists to set aside their personal emotions about Assange to recognize the profound dangers — not just to press freedoms but to themselves — if the U.S. government succeeds in keeping Assange imprisoned for years to come, all due to its attempts to prosecute him for publishing classified or stolen documents. That seems the highly likely scenario once Ecuador hands over Assange to the U.K.

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the U.K. What Comes Next?


If someone breaks into my house and steals my shit but then let’s me know that I have a leaky basement...he still does not deserve my gratitude


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I don't believe that analogy is applicable to Assange. The State must be held accountable. It is the job of journalists to expose the corrupt nature, that is the State. If the State knows it can do whatever it wants without being exposed, well then, we are all damned.

The state is still doing whatever it wants. The few crumbs that Assange threw to the masses have changed nothing. Did the NSA stop spying on us all after it was spilled that they were doing it?
Good point. However we still need the press to expose government corruption, even though it results in few of any changes. It does have a limiting effect.

Look at Trump now. The MSM is all over him. He knows he can’t get away with corrupt shit, like BO did.


But he is getting away with it because half the nation will not believe anything the MSM tells them. When Trump said he could shoot someone in Time Square and not lose voters, he knew what he was talking about
I don’t think Trump gets away with the level of shit BO did. He would quickly be impeached for fast and furious, Benghazi, and so much more.
 
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The state is still doing whatever it wants. The few crumbs that Assange threw to the masses have changed nothing. Did the NSA stop spying on us all after it was spilled that they were doing it?

But that failure of us to use and appreciate the information Assange gave us, does not reduce the effort and value of what Assange did. And he did not profit or gain from what he did.
He simply allowed us to police our own government's crimes.
That fact we did nothing is our fault, not his.
He should still get a medal.
 
Dis cat hath got to go...
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Julian Assange Must Leave Embassy, Ecuador President Says

7/27/18 - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will eventually need to leave the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he has lived under political asylum since 2012, the nation’s president, Lenin Moreno, declared during an event in Madrid on Friday, as reported by Reuters.
The statement followed a report from The Sunday Times last month that said Ecuador was in talks with U.K. officials over Assange’s future. Speculation began to mount that his time at the embassy was coming to an end. The WikiLeaks founder feared he would be extradited to the U.S. over his leaking of government secrets, emails and CIA-hacking tools. Assange’s internet connection was recently cut. Moreno, who previously called the WikiLeaks founder a “hacker” and an “inherited problem,” confirmed this week that he had recently spoken to the British government about the ongoing situation, according to Reuters. He had visited the U.K. on July 23. The U.S. intelligence community believes the whistle-blowing platform played a key role in the 2016 election-meddling campaign. WikiLeaks was used to spread stolen emails allegedly hacked by Russian intelligence.

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Julian Assange, after speaking to the media from the balcony of the Embassy of Ecuador, in London, on May 19, 2017. Ecuador's President Lenin Moreno said Assange will eventually need to leave the embassy, where he sought political asylum in 2012.​

Assange's 2012 asylum request was granted by Moreno’s predecessor, Rafael Correa. Assange entered the embassy after he was accused of sexual assault in Sweden, accusations he denied. A controversial figure, the WikiLeaks chief played a part in Edward Snowden’s escape from Hong Kong in 2013 after the leaking of National Security Agency surveillance secrets. In 2016, Assange spearheaded the release of emails from the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta, a close aide to Hillary Clinton. British officials have said they would arrest Assange for breaching prior bail conditions should he step outside the embassy's doors. Appeals were made over the years for the WikiLeaks editor to get better access to health care; his time in the Knightsbridge building left him in a “dangerous” condition, doctors claimed.

Assange also clashed with Ecuador on several occasions after voicing his political opinions. The anti-secrecy organization, founded in 2006, brushed off suggestions that it has ties to Russia. U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions indicated last year that arresting Assange had become a “priority,” saying, “We’ve already begun to step up our efforts, and whenever a case can be made, we will seek to put some people in jail.” Ex–CIA Director Mike Pompeo called WikiLeaks a “non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia.” Pompeo, now U.S. secretary of state, said, “Assange is a narcissist who has created nothing of value. He relies on the dirty work of others to make himself famous. He is a fraud—a coward hiding behind a screen.” Before that, Pompeo shared links to WikiLeaks on social media. The WikiLeaks Twitter account did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Julian Assange embassy stay under threat as Ecuador president says he "eventually" needs to leave
 
Assange' get outta jail free card `bout to come to an end...
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Britain and Ecuador discuss Wikileaks founder's fate
July 28,`18 -- Officials in Britain and Ecuador are discussing the fate of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, who has been holed up in Ecuador's British embassy for six years.
Assange, 47, who has rarely seen daylight in the years he's been held in asylum, could face expulsion soon from the embassy, a source told The Times. Government officials in both countries are pondering the eviction of Assange, who gained notoriety for publishing thousands of U.S.-classified documents on the website, WikiLeaks, from Ecuador's London embassy, where he has been in asylum since 2012 and gained citizenship late last year. Ecuador's President Lenin Moreno told the BBC Friday that he was never "in favor" of Assange's activities, and that both countries were holding talks.
The British government has become more concerned about his welfare as Ecuador cut off his internet connection in March over concerns about his use of social media interfering with diplomatic relations and cut back extra security in May after spending $5 million on protection costs. "It is our wish that this is brought to an end, and we would like to make the assurance that if he were to step out of the embassy, he would be treated humanely and properly," British Foreign Office minister Alan Duncan told parliament last month. "The first priority would be to look after his health, which we think is deteriorating."

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British and Ecuadorean leaders are holding talks on the fate of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange who may soon have to leave an embassy in Britain after staying there six years.​

Ecuador granted political asylum to Assange in 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden over rape allegations. Assange faced a count of unlawful coercion and two counts of sexual molestation, which expired in 2015 due to statutes of limitations under Swedish law, while the investigation for one remaining rape allegation, which had an expiration date of 2020, was dropped in May 2017.

Although the Swedish investigation has been dropped, Assange fears an arrest for bail breach in the sexual assault case would allow him to be extradited to the United States for publishing the classified documents on Wikileaks. The website grabbed worldwide attention in April 2010 when it released footage of U.S. soldiers fatally shooting at least 18 civilians from a helicopter in Iraq.

Britain and Ecuador discuss Wikileaks founder's fate
 
The media is more than happy to dig up the dirt on Trump, even fabricate it at times.
They weren't forthcoming with the dirt on Hillary, even hiding it.

Assange evened the playing field IMO.

You may think he's a criminal, but, I think it's equally criminal when the MSM hides the truth. After all, that's what they're here for,
not to sway an election as they tried to do.

I do not think he is a criminal, he deals in stolen merchandise...that is a criminal activity


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Your Government engages in terrible criminal behavior daily. That's the truth.

Pointing to the criminal behavior of one person does not excuse the criminal behavior of another


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So you wanna hang Assange, but give your Government a complete free pass. You really should rethink that stance.
When the US interfers with an election to SUPPRESS democracy let me know.

And I realize that the US has removed democratically elected govts. Sometimes without clear evidence that they intend to install a totalitarian state.

I assume you meant "interferes". Did you forget Obama's hand in the Israeli elections cookie jar with YOUR tax dollars?
 
The US does not even always bother with the election, but just uses military force for regime change, like Egypt (2013), Libya (2011), Chile (1973), Iran (1953). The whole country of Israel was not created by elections, but US supplied B-17s, P-51s, M-4 tanks, etc. (1948).
We do it over and over except when other countries stop us, like Vietnam, Angola, Syria, etc.
And we never pick the right side or do it well.
It is always a disaster, even for us, like Iraq.
 
Assange should try and get to Russia ... He'd be safe there ... Just like Snowden was / is.
 
I do not think he is a criminal, he deals in stolen merchandise...that is a criminal activity


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Your Government engages in terrible criminal behavior daily. That's the truth.

Pointing to the criminal behavior of one person does not excuse the criminal behavior of another


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So you wanna hang Assange, but give your Government a complete free pass. You really should rethink that stance.
When the US interfers with an election to SUPPRESS democracy let me know.

And I realize that the US has removed democratically elected govts. Sometimes without clear evidence that they intend to install a totalitarian state.

I assume you meant "interferes". Did you forget Obama's hand in the Israeli elections cookie jar with YOUR tax dollars?
Not to mention that Obama interfered with the election in France.
 
^ ^ .... thanks G*d Obama's interference in Israeli election didn't work like he / they (Dems) planned it would.
 
The US does not even always bother with the election, but just uses military force for regime change, like Egypt (2013), Libya (2011), Chile (1973), Iran (1953). The whole country of Israel was not created by elections, but US supplied B-17s, P-51s, M-4 tanks, etc. (1948).
We do it over and over except when other countries stop us, like Vietnam, Angola, Syria, etc.
And we never pick the right side or do it well.
It is always a disaster, even for us, like Iraq.

Excellent observation. The US has been 'Regime-Changing' since the CIA was created. Forget just 'interfering in elections', the US falt-out kills leaders and replaces them with Puppets. It's been doing it for several decades.
 
The US does not even always bother with the election, but just uses military force for regime change, like Egypt (2013), Libya (2011), Chile (1973), Iran (1953). The whole country of Israel was not created by elections, but US supplied B-17s, P-51s, M-4 tanks, etc. (1948).
We do it over and over except when other countries stop us, like Vietnam, Angola, Syria, etc.
And we never pick the right side or do it well.
It is always a disaster, even for us, like Iraq.

Excellent observation. The US has been 'Regime-Changing' since the CIA was created. Forget just 'interfering in elections', the US falt-out kills leaders and replaces them with Puppets. It's been doing it for several decades.
And why do you think it does so?
 

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