Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[Penelope]

Bundy needs some prison time, he is the head of a terrorist group.

 

[ClosedCaption]

To be fair that kid is tall for his age and since height is a direct correlation to criminality I can see why thats brought up often

Aww CC, they are just playing Rambo! wink wink

 

[ClosedCaption]

Armed white guys take over federal building demanding free stuff! Blames "The Man" for their lot in life.

 

[paulitician]

especially when you just make up their responses.

Polly paulitician is a basement-dwelling, libertarian wannabe.

As to the OP, the judge did not follow sentencing guidelines so justice wasnt served

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They Non-Communist white folks. They as good as dead. Hussein gon get em soon. Now if they were Muslims, White Communists/Progressives, or Illegals, Hussein would be quick to the rescue. It is what it is.

I know it is crazy, right? Sometimes truth can be crazy.

And all times you can be crazier.

Crazy truth. It is what it is.

 

[SwimExpert]

you do realize that it's an empty building in the middle of nowhere don't you?

It's not "headquarters " for anything

You do realize you're full of shit, right?

I would call this the middle of nowhere, headquarters or not.

Are you seriously trying to say that terrorism is justified if it happens in an open field?

 

[peach174]

you do realize that it's an empty building in the middle of nowhere don't you?

It's not "headquarters " for anything

You do realize you're full of shit, right?

I would call this the middle of nowhere, headquarters or not.

Are you seriously trying to say that terrorism is justified if it happens in an open field?

All I'm saying is that is the middle of nowhere.

 

[Dana7360]

Remember folks, Big Brother wants it all. He's not your friend. One day, every square inch of America will be owned by the Government and Corporations. Bet on that.

That land has been government land since 1908.

No one has grabbed anyone's land. It was unowned and unused land when the government designated it a wildlife refuge by Theodore Roosevelt.

You remember learning about him don't you?

He's the president who created our national parks.

He was also a republican.

 

[Dana7360]

These people are not terrorists.
They are ranchers who have been abused by the Feds because the Feds have wanted to get that land since the 1970's.

They don't even fucking live there!

You're a real piece of shit for defending these terrorists. Too bad you weren't in the towers when they came down. We lost real Americans that day. We could have afforded to get rid of you.

On top of that, what peach posted is a lie.

That land has been government land since 1908.

The feds have not wanted that land since the 1970s. Because it was already federal land.

These people are so stupid and such liars.

 

[paulitician]

Remember folks, Big Brother wants it all. He's not your friend. One day, every square inch of America will be owned by the Government and Corporations. Bet on that.

That land has been government land since 1908.

No one has grabbed anyone's land. It was unowned and unused land when the government designated it a wildlife refuge by Theodore Roosevelt.

You remember learning about him don't you?

He's the president who created our national parks.

He was also a republican.

Man, so many people still don't get it. Big Brother wants it all. He's not your friend. Until people start understanding that, he's gonna continue trying to grab it all.

 

[Skull Pilot]

you do realize that it's an empty building in the middle of nowhere don't you?

It's not "headquarters " for anything

You do realize you're full of shit, right?

I never knew any "headquarters" to be completely unoccupied at any time

Well, there's alot of things you don't know. I really don't get what you're trying to allege here. Is your complaint that the building was closed for the holiday?

It was empty, no one was harmed or even threatened it's a building in the middle of nowhere and in all probability the couple people who work there don't really do anything anyway

 

[Dot Com]

They are terrorists plain & simple and they need to be put down

Face it, Oregon building takeover is terrorism - CNN.com

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[peach174]

These people are not terrorists.
They are ranchers who have been abused by the Feds because the Feds have wanted to get that land since the 1970's.

They don't even fucking live there!

You're a real piece of shit for defending these terrorists. Too bad you weren't in the towers when they came down. We lost real Americans that day. We could have afforded to get rid of you.

On top of that, what peach posted is a lie.

That land has been government land since 1908.

The feds have not wanted that land since the 1970s. Because it was already federal land.

These people are so stupid and such liars.

No it isn't.
The Hammonds own that ranch.

Bundy Ranch
In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.

During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.

By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.

 

[ogibillm]

These people are not terrorists.
They are ranchers who have been abused by the Feds because the Feds have wanted to get that land since the 1970's.

They don't even fucking live there!

You're a real piece of shit for defending these terrorists. Too bad you weren't in the towers when they came down. We lost real Americans that day. We could have afforded to get rid of you.

On top of that, what peach posted is a lie.

That land has been government land since 1908.

The feds have not wanted that land since the 1970s. Because it was already federal land.

These people are so stupid and such liars.

No it isn't.
The Hammonds own that ranch.

Bundy Ranch
In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.

During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.

By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.

How about the lands they burnt to cover up their poaching?

And once again, I'll remind you of two things:
1. The Hammond's are guilty of arson
2. The criminals in the refuge building have nothing to do with the Hammonds

 

[peach174]

These people are not terrorists.
They are ranchers who have been abused by the Feds because the Feds have wanted to get that land since the 1970's.

They don't even fucking live there!

You're a real piece of shit for defending these terrorists. Too bad you weren't in the towers when they came down. We lost real Americans that day. We could have afforded to get rid of you.

On top of that, what peach posted is a lie.

That land has been government land since 1908.

The feds have not wanted that land since the 1970s. Because it was already federal land.

These people are so stupid and such liars.

No it isn't.
The Hammonds own that ranch.

Bundy Ranch
In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.

During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.

By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.

How about the lands they burnt to cover up their poaching?

And once again, I'll remind you of two things:
1. The Hammond's are guilty of arson
2. The criminals in the refuge building have nothing to do with the Hammonds

1.Of which they served their time.
2. No they don't ( I agree), other than 2 ranchers who have held out against the taking of their ranches by the Feds in two different States.

 

[Katzndogz]

No one finds that there is something wrong with a judge ordering additional time 8 years after the sentence was served and the men released from prison?

Not a thing wrong with that.

You don't do 30 day stints in prison drunk grl. One had a year, one had 30 days. Remember when I pointed that out to you ystrdy? They most likely did it in jail which is different for obvious reasons

The men were sentenced and served their time, completing their sentences 8 years ago.

 

[Katzndogz]

These people are not terrorists.
They are ranchers who have been abused by the Feds because the Feds have wanted to get that land since the 1970's.

They don't even fucking live there!

You're a real piece of shit for defending these terrorists. Too bad you weren't in the towers when they came down. We lost real Americans that day. We could have afforded to get rid of you.

On top of that, what peach posted is a lie.

That land has been government land since 1908.

The feds have not wanted that land since the 1970s. Because it was already federal land.

These people are so stupid and such liars.

No it isn't.
The Hammonds own that ranch.

Bundy Ranch
In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.

During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.

By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.

How about the lands they burnt to cover up their poaching?

And once again, I'll remind you of two things:
1. The Hammond's are guilty of arson
2. The criminals in the refuge building have nothing to do with the Hammonds

The Hammonds are guilty of arson. They were tried, convicted and served their time 11 years ago.

 

[ogibillm]

These people are not terrorists.
They are ranchers who have been abused by the Feds because the Feds have wanted to get that land since the 1970's.

They don't even fucking live there!

You're a real piece of shit for defending these terrorists. Too bad you weren't in the towers when they came down. We lost real Americans that day. We could have afforded to get rid of you.

On top of that, what peach posted is a lie.

That land has been government land since 1908.

The feds have not wanted that land since the 1970s. Because it was already federal land.

These people are so stupid and such liars.

No it isn't.
The Hammonds own that ranch.

Bundy Ranch
In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.

During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.

By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.

How about the lands they burnt to cover up their poaching?

And once again, I'll remind you of two things:
1. The Hammond's are guilty of arson
2. The criminals in the refuge building have nothing to do with the Hammonds

1.Of which they served their time.

No, they haven't.

2. No they don't ( I agree), other than 2 ranchers who have held out against the taking of their ranches by the Feds in two different States.

Lol. Nobody is trying to take the Hammonds' ranch or the Bundys' for that matter.

 

[ogibillm]

No one finds that there is something wrong with a judge ordering additional time 8 years after the sentence was served and the men released from prison?

Not a thing wrong with that.

You don't do 30 day stints in prison drunk grl. One had a year, one had 30 days. Remember when I pointed that out to you ystrdy? They most likely did it in jail which is different for obvious reasons

The men were sentenced and served their time, completing their sentences 8 years ago.

Not quite correct. They served an invalid and vacated sentence the judge gave in contradiction to the law

 

[AmericanFirst1]

The Hammond's played with fire and got burned. Setting fires when you cannot control them is real serious business in that area. They have had some major fires in the past decade, some that destroyed up to 1/3 of some of the ranchers cattle. That represents many years of lost income for a group of people that work extremely hard for the little income they make.

Especially when a tyrant wants your land. Good for the militia.

 

[Katzndogz]

you do realize that it's an empty building in the middle of nowhere don't you?

It's not "headquarters " for anything

You do realize you're full of shit, right?

I never knew any "headquarters" to be completely unoccupied at any time

Well, there's alot of things you don't know. I really don't get what you're trying to allege here. Is your complaint that the building was closed for the holiday?

It was empty, no one was harmed or even threatened it's a building in the middle of nowhere and in all probability the couple people who work there don't really do anything anyway

No body works there. It's for the occasional use of the forest service.