At some point, just admit that Obama knew

[driveby]

No way, Starkey is a true Obama believer.

 

[Ernie S.]

No way, Starkey is a true Obama believer.

Only as long as it serves him.

 

[Unkotare]

obama is Sgt. Shultz.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yes, the President "lied". He should have said "if you like your plan and it's not a piece of crap that doesn't actually insure you against anything, you can keep your plan".

And why do you support the President saying this?

 

[LTCArmyRet]

Admit it. You cannot handle truth. You get stuck on the talking points. You are too stupid to understand actuarial tables and how insurance......any insurance...makes you pay for shit you never use. Dummy.

Actually, they don't make me. When I buy my auto, home, or life insurance, I get to choose what risks I want covered, and which ones I don't. I even get to choose how big a deductible I want.

We should be buying health insurance the same way.

There are minimum standards for all of them. Especially auto insurance.

And you wil have to explain that last one.....how would that work? You could opt out of cancer coverage? Is that it?

Ok dumbass, lets' make this simple for you. Driving is a privilege, not a RIGHT! How I live my life and CHOOSE what medical coverage I want or need is a RIGHT!! That's the difference. If I choose to not have coverage for cancer, or pregnancy, or warts or whatever, that's my RIGHT!!!

Having it forced upon me is SOCIALISM!!!! NO MAN has the authority to decide what is best for me!!!

 

[LoneLaugher]

Actually, they don't make me. When I buy my auto, home, or life insurance, I get to choose what risks I want covered, and which ones I don't. I even get to choose how big a deductible I want.

We should be buying health insurance the same way.

There are minimum standards for all of them. Especially auto insurance.

And you wil have to explain that last one.....how would that work? You could opt out of cancer coverage? Is that it?

Ok dumbass, lets' make this simple for you. Driving is a privilege, not a RIGHT! How I live my life and CHOOSE what medical coverage I want or need is a RIGHT!! That's the difference. If I choose to not have coverage for cancer, or pregnancy, or warts or whatever, that's my RIGHT!!!

Having it forced upon me is SOCIALISM!!!! NO MAN has the authority to decide what is best for me!!!

That is retarded.

 

[g5000]

Its Obama's own estimates

Nope. The Obama Adminstration only calculated how many companies would lose their grandfather status between 2011 and 2013. The 93 million people losing their insurance was manufactured by a former Romney campaign flak. The dipshit assumed every company that lost their grandfather status in the period 2011-2013 would cancel their employees' insurance. How stupid is that?

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

Quoted for posterity.

 

[g5000]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

.....but insurance premiums are rising next year from 15-37 percent. Thanks obamacare.

 

[Claudette]

Yup the affordable health care that no one but those being subsidized by we the taxpayer can afford.

Barrys signature legislation sucks.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

 

[g5000]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

 

[Care4all]

.....but insurance premiums are rising next year from 15-37 percent. Thanks obamacare.

And next year when everyone's insurance is not raised 15% to 37% will you come back here and apologize or eat crow or realize that you have been HAD by your right wing media?

States can deny those increases btw.... it happened in my very state, a few years before Obamacare, the insurance companies said they needed to raise their rates by 27% and our State Insurance Commissioner DENIED that increase and settled on 10% increase with the Insurance companies....

 

[The Rabbi]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

So either 30% of employees have been kicked off their insurance or the program is a rousing success?
You understand there are other possibilities, right?

 

[g5000]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

So either 30% of employees have been kicked off their insurance or the program is a rousing success?
You understand there are other possibilities, right?

No one said anything about a rousing success. You really suck at deflections.

A claim was made that 30 percent of employers would drop their insurance. Another claim was made that 93 million people would lose their health insurance.

Both claims were catastrophic failures.

So the only question that remains is...are you tards going to keep going back for refills of your piss cups, or what?

They told me their piss would give me healthy teeth and gums!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

It isn't being reported for the same reason most of Obama's fuckups aren't reported G.... you know this. As for percentages? Hell if I know.. all I know is what I see going on. And I'm telling you, it is real. My company is a small firm of 30 employees. Our HI alone has gone up 45% over the last 18 months.. and the OOP has quadrupled. we've eliminated dependent coverage unless the employees are willing to pay for it.

FACT.

 

[The Rabbi]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

So either 30% of employees have been kicked off their insurance or the program is a rousing success?
You understand there are other possibilities, right?

No one said anything about a rousing success. You really suck at deflections.

A claim was made that 30 percent of employers would drop their insurance. Another claim was made that 93 million people would lose their health insurance.

Both claims were catastrophic failures.

So the only question that remains is...are you tards going to keep going back for refills of your piss cups, or what?

They told me their piss would give me healthy teeth and gums!

Sorry but who made those claims? Yeah, a strawman told you.
It is undeniable that obamacare has raised premiums dramatically. It is undeniable that many companies are revising and eliminating their health insurancce programs. It s undeniable that Obamacare is a total failure as public policy.
Only turds like you are busy defending it.

 

[g5000]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

It isn't being reported for the same reason most of Obama's fuckups aren't reported G.... you know this.

BWA-HA-HA-HA! You just donned a tin foil hat.

If 93 million people had lost their health insurance last year, it would be in all the papers. And if you DON'T know that, then you are more mentally ill than I thought, and that is saying something.

 

[g5000]

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

So either 30% of employees have been kicked off their insurance or the program is a rousing success?
You understand there are other possibilities, right?

No one said anything about a rousing success. You really suck at deflections.

A claim was made that 30 percent of employers would drop their insurance. Another claim was made that 93 million people would lose their health insurance.

Both claims were catastrophic failures.

So the only question that remains is...are you tards going to keep going back for refills of your piss cups, or what?

They told me their piss would give me healthy teeth and gums!

Sorry but who made those claims? Yeah, a strawman told you.
It is undeniable that obamacare has raised premiums dramatically. It is undeniable that many companies are revising and eliminating their health insurancce programs. It s undeniable that Obamacare is a total failure as public policy.
Only turds like you are busy defending it.

I don't defend ObamaCare. In fact, I have written a lot of posts deconstructing it. It is just that your profound bias has made you selectively blind.

And now you are actually trying to deny right wing hacks claimed 93 million people would lose their health insurance in 2014!

Amazing. Simply amazing. Very Orwellian.

This is some kind of weird mental illness you rubes have.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You are (conveniently) forgetting one VERY important fact. Employers have until next year to comply (again, conveniently) with this horse hockey. Just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that 30% of employers will be kicking their employer insurance to the curb. Just wait.

You think folks are raising hell now!?

You ever hear the word "Armegeddon"?? The dems are done. PERIOD. End of story.

"Next year" has come and gone. No Armegeddon. 30% of employers did not kick their employer insurance to the curb.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am a CPA who works with many clients; the ACA is creating havoc in many industries. Employers are now having employees pony up contributions where they never did in the past. Some coverages are being eliminated altogether. LTD & STD coverages are being done away with to help make up for additional costs of HI. Hell, the reporting requirements alone are crippling... I'm a Microsoft VAR for their ERP lines, they can't even keep up with the new reporting requirements for the ACA...

Please show 30 percent of employers have kicked their insurance to the curb. There would be headlines all over the place.

Where are those 93 million people who were supposed to have lost their insurance by the end of 2014? There would be headlines all over the place.

Hmmmm...

It must suck to keep falling for manufactured bullshit. I just wonder why you rubes keep going back for more!

It is some kind of mental illness. Not kidding.

It isn't being reported for the same reason most of Obama's fuckups aren't reported G.... you know this.

BWA-HA-HA-HA! You just donned a tin foil hat.

If 93 million people had lost their health insurance last year, it would be in all the papers. And if you DON'T know that, then you are more mentally ill than I thought, and that is saying something.

Yeah, I know... all is fine.... nothing to see here. All hail Lord Obama the great!!!!! The Mideast is fine, healthcare is great, health insurance premiums are dropping like a rock, the deficit is done away with, unfunded liabilities are a thing of the past, Wall Street has been cleaned up, unemployment is at record lows, public assistance is a thing of the past, race relations are at all time highs... thank you Obama!!!

You're delusional.