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Okay. Apparently, you and I have been having two different conversations. Allow me to understand a few details of your position. You keep referring to "spirituality". Would you equate spirituality with religion? Simple yes, or not. I will have other questions to assist me with my clarifications, so pontificating won't bring us any closer to understanding one another.And there have been numerous studies that contradict those you are citing. That's the point. You made a claim as if it were indisputable, and it isn't.
I haven't cited any, I just said there were numerous studies and there are.
Here's a few examples, since you can't shut up about it... but I"ll warn you, I am not playing your "divert the thread and attack the source" game. You have a problem with the sources, go fuck yourself.
Does Spirituality Make You Happy?
"scientists have found, again and again, that those with a spiritual practice or who follow religious beliefs tend to be happier than those who don’t. Study after study has found that religious people tend to be less depressed and less anxious than nonbelievers, better able to handle the vicissitudes of life than nonbelievers."
Mindfulness meditation may ease anxiety, mental stress - Harvard Health Blog
"But when researchers from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD sifted through nearly 19,000 meditation studies, they found 47 trials that addressed those issues and met their criteria for well-designed studies. Their findings, published in JAMA Internal Medicine, suggest that mindful meditation can help ease psychological stresses like anxiety, depression, and pain."
Religion, Spirituality, and Health: The Research and Clinical Implications
Religious/spiritual beliefs and practices are commonly used by both medical and psychiatric patients to cope with illness and other stressful life changes. A large volume of research shows that people who are more R/S have better mental health and adapt more quickly to health problems compared to those who are less R/S. These possible benefits to mental health and well-being have physiological consequences that impact physical health, affect the risk of disease, and influence response to treatment. In this paper I have reviewed and summarized hundreds of quantitative original data-based research reports examining relationships between R/S and health. These reports have been published in peer-reviewed journals in medicine, nursing, social work, rehabilitation, social sciences, counseling, psychology, psychiatry, public health, demography, economics, and religion. The majority of studies report significant relationships between R/S and better health.
Okay. Apparently, you and I have been having two different conversations. Allow me to understand a few details of your position. You keep referring to "spirituality". Would you equate spirituality with religion? Simple yes, or not. I will have other questions to assist me with my clarifications, so pontificating won't bring us any closer to understanding one another.
lol... charming.No sense in losing your head over it. And no sense in losing a piece of pussy over it either. It's a silly notion. What do you think I'll go to hell for faking belief in god?
You're just incapable of simply answering a question witout posturing, aren't you? That said, if I understand the gist your response correctly, what you call "spirituality" is not dependent on religion. So, would you say that "spirituality" is a system of determining one's moral centre?Okay. Apparently, you and I have been having two different conversations. Allow me to understand a few details of your position. You keep referring to "spirituality". Would you equate spirituality with religion? Simple yes, or not. I will have other questions to assist me with my clarifications, so pontificating won't bring us any closer to understanding one another.
Spirituality and Religion are two different things but they are closely related and sometimes interchangeable. Religions are the manifestation of Spirituality. Most people who are devoutly spiritual are religious as well... but not always. You can be spiritual without being religious. There are also people who profess to be religious, yet they are not very spiritual. I know you didn't want a "pontificating" reply but it's simply not a yes or no answer.
You're just incapable of simply answering a question witout posturing, aren't you? That said, if I understand the gist your response correctly, what you call "spirituality" is not dependent on religion. So, would you say that "spirituality" is a system of determining one's moral centre?Okay. Apparently, you and I have been having two different conversations. Allow me to understand a few details of your position. You keep referring to "spirituality". Would you equate spirituality with religion? Simple yes, or not. I will have other questions to assist me with my clarifications, so pontificating won't bring us any closer to understanding one another.
Spirituality and Religion are two different things but they are closely related and sometimes interchangeable. Religions are the manifestation of Spirituality. Most people who are devoutly spiritual are religious as well... but not always. You can be spiritual without being religious. There are also people who profess to be religious, yet they are not very spiritual. I know you didn't want a "pontificating" reply but it's simply not a yes or no answer.
Spirituality is not necessarily dependent on religion but I would not say that it's a system of determining one's moral center.
to state spirituality is a human (only) connection from whence all beings came is patently absurd and simply nauseating in every regard save the ravings of a selfabsorbed lunatic.Spirituality is human connection with something greater than self.
By that definition, I'm "spiritual". After all, I'm connected to "something greater than myself". It's called a society, and a culture. By that definition everyone is spiritual who isn't a sociopath.You're just incapable of simply answering a question witout posturing, aren't you? That said, if I understand the gist your response correctly, what you call "spirituality" is not dependent on religion. So, would you say that "spirituality" is a system of determining one's moral centre?Okay. Apparently, you and I have been having two different conversations. Allow me to understand a few details of your position. You keep referring to "spirituality". Would you equate spirituality with religion? Simple yes, or not. I will have other questions to assist me with my clarifications, so pontificating won't bring us any closer to understanding one another.
Spirituality and Religion are two different things but they are closely related and sometimes interchangeable. Religions are the manifestation of Spirituality. Most people who are devoutly spiritual are religious as well... but not always. You can be spiritual without being religious. There are also people who profess to be religious, yet they are not very spiritual. I know you didn't want a "pontificating" reply but it's simply not a yes or no answer.
I'm sorry that you consider it "posturing" to answer questions correctly. Spirituality is not necessarily dependent on religion but I would not say that it's a system of determining one's moral center. Spirituality is human connection with something greater than self. Can this aid one in finding their moral center? Sure. However, I assume Atheists who have no spirituality also have some perception of their own moral center, true?
By that definition, I'm "spiritual". After all, I'm connected to "something greater than myself". It's called a society, and a culture. By that definition everyone is spiritual who isn't a sociopath.
being spirited by definition refers to an accomplished state of mind, purity (moral center) particularly as perceived by their detractors, fictitious religionists.
to state spirituality is a human (only) connection from whence all beings came is patently absurd and simply nauseating in every regard save the ravings of a selfabsorbed lunatic.
Society is beyond the human, physical self. Or here's an even better one; I have a connection with the entire universe. Guess what? The same elements, and energies that make up anything in the universe, make up me. No God, or supernatural necessary. You see, you're trying very hard to not say that spirituality is a connection with the supernatural, because then you have to prove that the supernatural exists objectively.By that definition, I'm "spiritual". After all, I'm connected to "something greater than myself". It's called a society, and a culture. By that definition everyone is spiritual who isn't a sociopath.
Greater than the human self or physical self.
.being spirited by definition refers to an accomplished state of mind, purity (moral center) particularly as perceived by their detractors, fictitious religionists.
No, it doesn't.
to state spirituality is a human (only) connection from whence all beings came is patently absurd and simply nauseating in every regard save the ravings of a selfabsorbed lunatic.
No, it's not.
No, it doesn't ... No, it's not.
Society is beyond the human, physical self. Or here's an even better one; I have a connection with the entire universe. Guess what? The same elements, and energies that make up anything in the universe, make up me. No God, or supernatural necessary. You see, you're trying very hard to not say that spirituality is a connection with the supernatural, because then you have to prove that the supernatural exists objectively.By that definition, I'm "spiritual". After all, I'm connected to "something greater than myself". It's called a society, and a culture. By that definition everyone is spiritual who isn't a sociopath.
Greater than the human self or physical self.
As to your studies, I won't dispute them. Of course people are more relaxed, and happier when they get to not take any responsibility for shit, and just blame every bad thing on some external supernatural force. Then there are the realists who understand that believing in fantasies doesn't actually fix anything.
yes it is ...
The Triumph of Good vs Evil - The Apex of Knowledge are goals for all living beings in pursuit of the Everlasting - good luck with your connection, bossy.
I have never suggested I suggest to the LaVayan satanic Law. I have always found that law rather open-ended, and self-centred. If we're going to go with that do as thou wilt stuff, I would say that the Wiccan Rede - "An' it harm none, do as thou wilt," is more rational. At least that, while still being overly simplistic, reminds one that their actions have an effect on others.Sooo...the only reason that you don't kill people, cheat, or steal is because you are commanded not to? I'm sorry to hear that. I also find it hard to believe. It has been my experience that people who want to kill, cheat, and steal are going to do so, commands prohibiting such behaviour not withstanding.The Satanic Church has only one Commandment, "Do as thou wilt."
The atheist commandments don't look like they're any better.
There's no commandments against lying, cheating, killing or stealing.
Do as thou wilt leave
Sooo...the only reason that you don't kill people, cheat, or steal is because you are commanded not to? I'm sorry to hear that. I also find it hard to believe. It has been my experience that people who want to kill, cheat, and steal are going to do so, commands prohibiting such behaviour not withstanding.The Satanic Church has only one Commandment, "Do as thou wilt."
The atheist commandments don't look like they're any better.
There's no commandments against lying, cheating, killing or stealing.
With Do as thou wilt leaves ...I guess one could justify anything.
No one always follows what is right...no one.
Yep. You can also be spiritual without buying even one shred of magical thinking. "Spirituality" is a feeling.You can be spiritual without being religious.
No, I don't think that you are going to hell, I see that you are already in it.
Yep. You can also be spiritual without buying even one shred of magical thinking. "Spirituality" is a feeling.You can be spiritual without being religious.
Of course spirituality is a "feeling", ya goofball. I experience it . Anyone with a normally functioning human brain can experience it. What's to rationalize? It's just another function of your neurons firing in your brain, like anything your brain does. No, your are not "finding profound truths". You are not experiencing anything magical or metaphysical. Your brain is just doing what brains do, while you are just doing what inherently self-centered human beings do naturally: ascribing special status to your experience. Nope, sorry, just a feeling...a thought...an emotion.Yep. You can also be spiritual without buying even one shred of magical thinking. "Spirituality" is a feeling.You can be spiritual without being religious.
No, spirituality is not a feeling. It's also not "magical thinking" as you put it. Look, don't get snarky with me because your tiny brain is not capable of rationalizing spiritual nature. Obviously, some of us haven't evolved far enough from our primitive ancestors yet.
Of course spirituality is a "feeling", ya goofball. I experience it . Anyone with a normally functioning human brain can experience it. What's to rationalize? It's just another function of your neurons firing in your brain, like anything your brain does. No, your are not "finding profound truths". You are not experiencing anything magical or metaphysical. Your brain is just doing what brains do, while you are just doing what inherently self-centered human beings do naturally: ascribing special status to your experience. Nope, sorry, just a feeling...a thought...an emotion.
Was your dig mentioning evolution really witty or funny enough to be worth it to make yourself sound too stupid to understand evolution? Suit yourself...
