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Doesn't matter if you think it's sanctimonious. He believes he is violating his faith by designing a cake to be used in a queer wedding. Why can't you all be tolerant?
When he opens a church, he can do whatever he wants. In a business that is open to the public, you serve the public, period, end of story, vote with your feet if you don't like it.
The Constitution doesn't say that. Tell us what the constitution says in the first amendment.
Couldn't give a damn what it says, since I the know the difference between religion and business, right and wrong.The hell you can't, and we do all the damn time. Really, grow the fuck up will you please? You whine like a child and it's damned annoying...Nope. You can't force an American citizen to violate their religious beliefs.
Here is an interesting point of view. Read it and hopefully you'll gain some perspective, dick nose.
Christian Cake Baker Appeals Government ?Re-Education? Order | CitizenLink
These Ayn Rand kids are such fucking morons. Yeah, business regulations make you a Slave...I couldn't get past your first sentence. Business rules do not trump the constitution. You leftists just can't quite get it.
From Employment Division v. Smith:
" We have never held that an individual's religious beliefs [p879] excuse him from compliance with an otherwise valid law prohibiting conduct that the State is free to regulate. On the contrary, the record of more than a century of our free exercise jurisprudence contradicts that proposition. As described succinctly by Justice Frankfurter in Minersville School Dist. Bd. of Educ. v. Gobitis, 310 U.S. 586, 594-595 (1940):
Conscientious scruples have not, in the course of the long struggle for religious toleration, relieved the individual from obedience to a general law not aimed at the promotion or restriction of religious beliefs. The mere possession of religious convictions which contradict the relevant concerns of a political society does not relieve the citizen from the discharge of political responsibilities."
Employment Division v. Smith | LII / Legal Information Institute
Scalia authored that decision, you think Scalia is a leftist?
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Queer marriage is a religious issue for many people. Your post doesn't cover that for a business owner. You can't force a citizen to labor against his will.
The hell you can't, and we do all the damn time. Really, grow the fuck up will you please? You whine like a child and it's damned annoying...
Here is an interesting point of view. Read it and hopefully you'll gain some perspective, dick nose.
Christian Cake Baker Appeals Government ?Re-Education? Order | CitizenLink
Wow...
......... Person found in violation of the law disagrees and appeals the ruling.
......... Stop the presses and news at 11.
Really? That's an "interesting perspective"?
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When he opens a church, he can do whatever he wants. In a business that is open to the public, you serve the public, period, end of story, vote with your feet if you don't like it.
The Constitution doesn't say that. Tell us what the constitution says in the first amendment.
" or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Doesn't mean you can use religion as an excuse to go beyond societal norms. Those norms change over time. You can't, as part of your religion, sacrifice another human. Now, in some states you can't discriminate against the LGBT community. I'm guessing it wont be long before it's federal too. But not yet.
Couldn't give a damn what it says, since I the know the difference between religion and business, right and wrong.The hell you can't, and we do all the damn time. Really, grow the fuck up will you please? You whine like a child and it's damned annoying...
Here is an interesting point of view. Read it and hopefully you'll gain some perspective, dick nose.
Christian Cake Baker Appeals Government ?Re-Education? Order | CitizenLink
Oh but they do, all the damn day long. It's not a blank check to do whatever you damn well please, and only a child would think so, child.The Constitution doesn't say that. Tell us what the constitution says in the first amendment.
" or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Doesn't mean you can use religion as an excuse to go beyond societal norms. Those norms change over time. You can't, as part of your religion, sacrifice another human. Now, in some states you can't discriminate against the LGBT community. I'm guessing it wont be long before it's federal too. But not yet.
Bullshit. Societal norms don't trump my constitution.
My opinion, the court's opinion, the opinion of the majority, not that it matters, and 60 years of legal reasoning and good results for society. Go piss into the wind some more you damn infant.Couldn't give a damn what it says, since I the know the difference between religion and business, right and wrong.Here is an interesting point of view. Read it and hopefully you'll gain some perspective, dick nose.
Christian Cake Baker Appeals Government ?Re-Education? Order | CitizenLink
That's why you're an ignorant fuck. Your opinions do not trump my constitution.
Why can't you all be tolerant?
Good one.
Don't hold your breath.
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These Ayn rand kids are such fucking morons. Yeah, business regulations make you a Slave...From Employment Division v. Smith:
" We have never held that an individual's religious beliefs [p879] excuse him from compliance with an otherwise valid law prohibiting conduct that the State is free to regulate. On the contrary, the record of more than a century of our free exercise jurisprudence contradicts that proposition. As described succinctly by Justice Frankfurter in Minersville School Dist. Bd. of Educ. v. Gobitis, 310 U.S. 586, 594-595 (1940):
Conscientious scruples have not, in the course of the long struggle for religious toleration, relieved the individual from obedience to a general law not aimed at the promotion or restriction of religious beliefs. The mere possession of religious convictions which contradict the relevant concerns of a political society does not relieve the citizen from the discharge of political responsibilities."
Employment Division v. Smith | LII / Legal Information Institute
Scalia authored that decision, you think Scalia is a leftist?
>>>>
Queer marriage is a religious issue for many people. Your post doesn't cover that for a business owner. You can't force a citizen to labor against his will.
The Constitution doesn't say that. Tell us what the constitution says in the first amendment.
" or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Doesn't mean you can use religion as an excuse to go beyond societal norms. Those norms change over time. You can't, as part of your religion, sacrifice another human. Now, in some states you can't discriminate against the LGBT community. I'm guessing it wont be long before it's federal too. But not yet.
Bullshit. Societal norms don't trump my constitution.
Oh but they do, all the damn day long. It's not a blank check to do whatever you damn well please, and only a child would think so, child." or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Doesn't mean you can use religion as an excuse to go beyond societal norms. Those norms change over time. You can't, as part of your religion, sacrifice another human. Now, in some states you can't discriminate against the LGBT community. I'm guessing it wont be long before it's federal too. But not yet.
Bullshit. Societal norms don't trump my constitution.
Never, because it's bullshit and entirely untrue. You aren't a slave just because you have to stop at red lights and pay your taxes. What you are is a child, and a stupid and selfish one at that.Why can't you all be tolerant?
Good one.
Don't hold your breath.
.
These Ayn Rand kids are such fucking morons. Yeah, business regulations make you a Slave...Queer marriage is a religious issue for many people. Your post doesn't cover that for a business owner. You can't force a citizen to labor against his will.
Nope. Business regulations that force me to violate my faith makes me a slave. Dumb ass. How long is it going to take before you learn that?
My opinion, the court's opinion, the opinion of the majority, not that it matters, and 60 years of legal reasoning and good results for society. Go piss into the wind some more you damn infant.Couldn't give a damn what it says, since I the know the difference between religion and business, right and wrong.
That's why you're an ignorant fuck. Your opinions do not trump my constitution.
I couldn't get past your first sentence. Business rules do not trump the constitution. You leftists just can't quite get it.
From Employment Division v. Smith:
" We have never held that an individual's religious beliefs [p879] excuse him from compliance with an otherwise valid law prohibiting conduct that the State is free to regulate. On the contrary, the record of more than a century of our free exercise jurisprudence contradicts that proposition. As described succinctly by Justice Frankfurter in Minersville School Dist. Bd. of Educ. v. Gobitis, 310 U.S. 586, 594-595 (1940):
Conscientious scruples have not, in the course of the long struggle for religious toleration, relieved the individual from obedience to a general law not aimed at the promotion or restriction of religious beliefs. The mere possession of religious convictions which contradict the relevant concerns of a political society does not relieve the citizen from the discharge of political responsibilities."
Employment Division v. Smith | LII / Legal Information Institute
Scalia authored that decision, you think Scalia is a leftist?
>>>>
Queer marriage is a religious issue for many people. Your post doesn't cover that for a business owner. You can't force a citizen to labor against his will.
Oh but they do, all the damn day long. It's not a blank check to do whatever you damn well please, and only a child would think so, child.Bullshit. Societal norms don't trump my constitution.
No one said that, dumb ass.
Never, because it's bullshit and entirely untrue. You aren't a slave just because you have to stop at red lights and pay your taxes. What you are is a child, and a stupid and selfish one at that.
Good one.
Don't hold your breath.
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These Ayn Rand kids are such fucking morons. Yeah, business regulations make you a Slave...
Nope. Business regulations that force me to violate my faith makes me a slave. Dumb ass. How long is it going to take before you learn that?
My opinion, the court's opinion, the opinion of the majority, not that it matters, and 60 years of legal reasoning and good results for society. Go piss into the wind some more you damn infant.That's why you're an ignorant fuck. Your opinions do not trump my constitution.
This is a new law and two queers deliberately targeted the business owner to test the law. Now go fuck yourself, loser.
No, it doesn't dumbass, which is why the courts rule my way, not yours.Never, because it's bullshit and entirely untrue. You aren't a slave just because you have to stop at red lights and pay your taxes. What you are is a child, and a stupid and selfish one at that.Nope. Business regulations that force me to violate my faith makes me a slave. Dumb ass. How long is it going to take before you learn that?
This isn't about red lights and taxes. This is about a law that oversteps constitutional rights. Dumb fuck.
The courts have already decided. Certain Americans, like our little infant here, just need to GTFU!!!!!!!!!!!" or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Doesn't mean you can use religion as an excuse to go beyond societal norms. Those norms change over time. You can't, as part of your religion, sacrifice another human. Now, in some states you can't discriminate against the LGBT community. I'm guessing it wont be long before it's federal too. But not yet.
Bullshit. Societal norms don't trump my constitution.
We'll have to wait and see how the courts decide.
You know that disability is protected by law now too...you cannot refuse service based on a customer's disabilities either.
