Barr Tells Congress Rats To Pound Sand

[dannyboys]

'Small
money donors statistically only give money to their favorite candidate. If that candidate drops out the donor/s don't continue to give money to who was yesterday their favorite candidate's favorite candidate.
"I gave Bernie fifty bucks but then Hillary stomped on him. There's NO FUCKING WAY!!!! I'll give her a dime now!!!!".

 

[beautress]

My sources say Manafort was convicted of Bank Fraud, not collusion. He worked for 4 administrations as a foreign relations specialist. I would like to see your source because My sources didn't mention any collusion by him. If he did bad things without authorization, then I am not surprised that he received an instant pink slip even if his information was turned down.

Edit I just found your link, thanks. However, this is not showing any collusion:

Paul Manafort: Prosecutors accused Manafort, former Trump campaign chairman, of laundering over $30 million in overseas income, using a network of companies to mask millions he earned as a political consultant and lobbyist for Ukrainian politicians. The charges were not connected to Manafort’s work for Trump. Manafort pleaded guilty and a jury convicted him on eight counts of tax and bank fraud. In March 2019, a federal judge sentenced Manafort to four years in prison and then a separate federal judge sentenced Manafort to 3 1/2 years related to secret foreign lobbying and witness tampering.

Your Politifact source: Here's all of the charges from Mueller's Russia probe​

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort shared polling data during the 2016 presidential campaign with a business associate accused of having ties to Russian intelligence, and prosecutors say he lied to them about it, according to a court filing Tuesday.

Manafort Gave 2016 Polling Data To Russian Tied to Intel Services

While he was not charged with collusion, he was charged with lying about that fact. If true then that would be strong evidence of collusion.

We have "strong evidence" that you are a fucking idiot. So far you haven't changed any minds.
Any luck selling off all those Mueller 'prayer candles' yet? What about the key chains? The 'Hand's up don't shoot' T shirts/ All those Trayvon Martin hoodies with a photo of when he was ten years old screen printed on them?
Born To Lose! HAAA HAAAA!!!!!

Project much?

 

[bripat9643]

So Jewel had saved a whole bunch of lives and the FBI treated him like Ossama binLaden and tried to entrap him.

YES, a tragedy, a mistake...! People do make them.... the key is to make as few as possible, and to learn from them... so to reduce your chances of another one.

The FBI seems to make a lot of mistakes like that. They incinerated over 80 men, women and children from such a "mistake."

 

[bripat9643]

President Trump DID NOT CONCLUDE with Russia. deal with it!

Yes Trump did COLLUDE with Russia. You need to deal with it.

Proof? After 2500 interviews and 500 subpoenas Mueller didn't find any.

 

[JimBowie1958]

So Jewel had saved a whole bunch of lives and the FBI treated him like Ossama binLaden and tried to entrap him.

YES, a tragedy, a mistake...! People do make them.... the key is to make as few as possible, and to learn from them... so to reduce your chances of another one.

But this 'mistake' was intended as they tried to entrap Jewel and wrecked his life.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Why did Flynn CHOOSE to lie about a conversation he had with the Russian Ambassador 3 weeks earlier? He was a general, and a Head of Security and Intelligence within our government, previous to his questioning.... where was his allegiance to the USA??? Why did he feel this need to LIE about it? the Judge, damn near called him a traitor, for what he did.

Because it was sensitive information that the FBI had no business being informed about, especially at a 'no big deal' non-investigative interview they had no business being told.

 

[JimBowie1958]

They did nothing of the sort and likely violated Flynns Miranda rights as well as soon as he asked about a lawyer and they lied to him.

they are NOT required to tell the person, according to ALL that I have read on it....

And Flynn KNEW that...

Then how is it a crime that Flynn lied about something these men did not have a right to know while in a non-investigative interview?

Just because an FBI dude asks you a question you are under no obligation to answer it unless they tell you it is part of an investigation.

So where is the crime?

 

[Care4all]

I've done PLENTY of research on it, and only in your right wing conspiracy circle jerk sites, are regurgitating uncorroborated bull crud....

Evidently NOT ENOUGH.

FBI Refuses Records Request For CNN Contacts Before Roger Stone Raid

FBI Rejects Request for Emails with CNN on the Day of Roger Stone Raid

FBI Refuses FOIA Request for Emails to CNN Before Roger Stone Arrest, Gives Nonsensical Excuse

"You’ll probably recall the dramatic arrest of Roger Stone. For some reason the FBI (and Robert Mueller’s team) thought it necessary to act like they were taking down a drug kingpin, complete with SWAT teams and guns drawn. This was all highly unusual given Stone had no passport, was not a flight risk, and then was immediately released on bail anyway.

The indication here is that Mueller wanted to make a show of it. That appearance was reinforced by the magical attendance of a CNN news crew that just happened to know the exact day and time of the arrest.

While CNN made the ridiculous claim that they just got lucky"


Yeah, CNN JUST HAPPENED to have a full camera crew out driving around in Roger Stone's neighborhood when they noticed several FBI 'SWAT' vehicles being driven by heavily armored agents, followed them to Stone's House, and were the only media on-hand as the FBI 'took down' this highly dangerous criminal with such a display of force / power.

It was in fact Wiseman, not Mueller himself who tipped off CNN.
Wiseman's day is coming.

FYI-
no, it wasn't....

Stone's team already brought that before the judge, with the prosecution showing the judge that their accusation's of Weisman was wrong, the initials on the data was because he wrote the court documents, not because he sent them to CNN.... this was ALREADY settled, in the court.... Plus, contrary to the accusation, the documents were not unsealed until the arrest began, per the court order on the sealed documents.

 

[edward37]

Why did Flynn CHOOSE to lie about a conversation he had with the Russian Ambassador 3 weeks earlier? He was a general, and a Head of Security and Intelligence within our government, previous to his questioning.... where was his allegiance to the USA??? Why did he feel this need to LIE about it? the Judge, damn near called him a traitor, for what he did.

Because it was sensitive information that the FBI had no business being informed about, especially at a 'no big deal' non-investigative interview they had no business being told.

So we just let russian loving scum like flynn manafort and trump run loose?

 

[bripat9643]

I've done PLENTY of research on it, and only in your right wing conspiracy circle jerk sites, are regurgitating uncorroborated bull crud....

Evidently NOT ENOUGH.

FBI Refuses Records Request For CNN Contacts Before Roger Stone Raid

FBI Rejects Request for Emails with CNN on the Day of Roger Stone Raid

FBI Refuses FOIA Request for Emails to CNN Before Roger Stone Arrest, Gives Nonsensical Excuse

"You’ll probably recall the dramatic arrest of Roger Stone. For some reason the FBI (and Robert Mueller’s team) thought it necessary to act like they were taking down a drug kingpin, complete with SWAT teams and guns drawn. This was all highly unusual given Stone had no passport, was not a flight risk, and then was immediately released on bail anyway.

The indication here is that Mueller wanted to make a show of it. That appearance was reinforced by the magical attendance of a CNN news crew that just happened to know the exact day and time of the arrest.

While CNN made the ridiculous claim that they just got lucky"


Yeah, CNN JUST HAPPENED to have a full camera crew out driving around in Roger Stone's neighborhood when they noticed several FBI 'SWAT' vehicles being driven by heavily armored agents, followed them to Stone's House, and were the only media on-hand as the FBI 'took down' this highly dangerous criminal with such a display of force / power.

It was in fact Wiseman, not Mueller himself who tipped off CNN.
Wiseman's day is coming.

FYI-
no, it wasn't....

Stone's team already brought that before the judge, with the prosecution showing the judge that their accusation's of Weisman was wrong, the initials on the data was because he wrote the court documents, not because he sent them to CNN.... this was ALREADY settled, in the court.... Plus, contrary to the accusation, the documents were not unsealed until the arrest began, per the court order on the sealed documents.

ROFL! You think that proves nobody on Mueller's team leaked the raid to CNN?

 

[Care4all]

They did nothing of the sort and likely violated Flynns Miranda rights as well as soon as he asked about a lawyer and they lied to him.

they are NOT required to tell the person, according to ALL that I have read on it....

And Flynn KNEW that...

Then how is it a crime that Flynn lied about something these men did not have a right to know while in a non-investigative interview?

Just because an FBI dude asks you a question you are under no obligation to answer it unless they tell you it is part of an investigation.

So where is the crime?

Where did I say it was a non-investigative interview?

Jim, you are also missing the point,

WHY DID FLYNN LIE ABOUT IT??? What was he trying to hide, and WHY was he trying to hide it? If you were an FBI agent, who usually never asks questions that they do not have a good idea on what the correct answer is.... wouldn't you be suspicious on why an ex General of the USA chose to lie about that...? I certainly would, and I still want to know the answer to this: Why did Flynn not simply tell them the truth.... why lie?

It was not breaking a law.... a little back handed maybe, but not a crime, as far as I know? And this put him in a compromised position, going out in public, denying any contact with the ambassador on sanctions when he sent Shawn and Pence out to spread that message on National TV.... this made him COMPROMISED and subject to foreign influence, even if unwanted, because he lied to the American people about it, and the Russians all knew he was lying to us about it.... Flynn, as ex military intelligence, knew BETTER than to put himself in that position, certainly he did Jim....

Even in the interview with them, Flynn made a joking comment on them already knowing the answer.... yet when they gave him a chance, 3 times to correct his lie, he didn't...?

Now isn't that weird? Off the wall crazy?

 

[Care4all]

I've done PLENTY of research on it, and only in your right wing conspiracy circle jerk sites, are regurgitating uncorroborated bull crud....

Evidently NOT ENOUGH.

FBI Refuses Records Request For CNN Contacts Before Roger Stone Raid

FBI Rejects Request for Emails with CNN on the Day of Roger Stone Raid

FBI Refuses FOIA Request for Emails to CNN Before Roger Stone Arrest, Gives Nonsensical Excuse

"You’ll probably recall the dramatic arrest of Roger Stone. For some reason the FBI (and Robert Mueller’s team) thought it necessary to act like they were taking down a drug kingpin, complete with SWAT teams and guns drawn. This was all highly unusual given Stone had no passport, was not a flight risk, and then was immediately released on bail anyway.

The indication here is that Mueller wanted to make a show of it. That appearance was reinforced by the magical attendance of a CNN news crew that just happened to know the exact day and time of the arrest.

While CNN made the ridiculous claim that they just got lucky"


Yeah, CNN JUST HAPPENED to have a full camera crew out driving around in Roger Stone's neighborhood when they noticed several FBI 'SWAT' vehicles being driven by heavily armored agents, followed them to Stone's House, and were the only media on-hand as the FBI 'took down' this highly dangerous criminal with such a display of force / power.

It was in fact Wiseman, not Mueller himself who tipped off CNN.
Wiseman's day is coming.

FYI-
no, it wasn't....

Stone's team already brought that before the judge, with the prosecution showing the judge that their accusation's of Weisman was wrong, the initials on the data was because he wrote the court documents, not because he sent them to CNN.... this was ALREADY settled, in the court.... Plus, contrary to the accusation, the documents were not unsealed until the arrest began, per the court order on the sealed documents.

ROFL! You think that proves nobody on Mueller's team leaked the raid to CNN?

What it shows is that Stone has absolutely zero proof, that anyone leaked.

 

[WillPower]

Sharing polling data with a Russian oligarch had nothing to do with Trump?

You claimed Manafort is in prison...instead of changing the subject, PROVE IT. Polling data is a joke....all of it. And if you want to talk about collusion, how about Hillary paying russians for lies about Trump that were so bizarre nobody but some web-site would publish it? I know you won't answer but Hillary and her goons will....and sooner than you think.

 

[busybee01]

No Jim, that's a right wing LIE.
He confessed and plead guilty, because he DID LIE to the FBI about talking with the Russian Ambassador about removing sanctions....

Robert Mueller releases memo summarizing interview with Michael Flynn - CNNPolitics

Whether the FBI decided Flynn was lying at that moment has become a touch point in President Donald Trump's recent attacks on the Mueller investigation. Trump has latched on to whether Mueller pursued Flynn on a criminal charge at odds with the FBI's initial findings. Former FBI agent Peter Strzok's participation in the Flynn interview -- and the fact that Flynn was not warned he could be prosecuted for lying and had no lawyer in the room with him when he met with the FBI at the White House -- has also cast political shadows on the case.
Trump has alleged the FBI determined that day that Flynn hadn't lied. Yet the memo from January 24, 2017, that was released Monday night does not say the FBI agents made any determinations at that time. The memo only outlines what Flynn said in a straightforward manner.
The subsequent criminal complaint, filed by Mueller's office in December 2017, outlined how Flynn's retelling of the conversations was wrong.​

Even Strojk said he did not believe that Flynn intended to lie that day as he recounted, without preparation, a 12 month old conversation.

But he has been ruined for it anyway because of political partisanship.

Jim, that pig don't fly... no one in the world knew more than Gen Flynn, that lying to the FBI is a crime...

he tried to pull off that Trump talk bull crap in court and the judge nearly sent him to prison for 10 more years.... I kid you not...

and one of the reasons he has not been sent yet, is because the judge, after he tried to play his Trump talk crybaby move and chewed him up and spit him out, she showed mercy on him, and said he needed to think about finding a way to cooperate with the special counsel MORE than he did already.... or he could be sentenced right then.... he came out of his lawyer conference with his tail between legs begging for more time before she sentenced him, for him to cooperate more and profusely apologized for his lawyers trying to pull that bull shit, that he didn't know he should not have lied to the FBI and blamed his lawyers for trying that angle, more or less....

the transcripts of the court hearing is out there on the net, available for you to read....

As far as the FBI interview... they DID NOT SAY he DID NOT LIE, what the FBI reported, was that he showed no PHYSICAL SIGNS of lying.... rapid eye movements, blinks, sweating type stuff.... that simply could mean he was a pathological liar... at ease with lying.... because they HAVE THE RECORDINGS of the Russian Ambassador Operative's calls... including all of Flynn's calls to him...

Flynn lied thru his teeth Jim...

AND the FBI interview/transcript with him is also out on the net, the FBI gave him multiple chances to correct his lies...YES, they did....

Flynn is a moot point. President Trump IS GOING to grant Flynn a full pardon just before the 2020 election.
Same goes for Stone and the 'coffee boy' who the corrupt Obama administration set up.
Thus 100% guaranteeing Trump's base will turn out to give him another four years.

By the time twenty plus DEM presidential candidates have diluted the potential donor base no one will have more than a few million bucks to campaign against Trump's billion dollar plus amount.
"I gave fifty bucks I couldn't afford to Warren. Then when she withdrew I gave another fifty bucks to Harris and then she withdrew. Then I gave my last fifty bucks to Bernie knowing he didn't have a chance. That's fucking IT! NO MORE. Let Beta's wife kick in 500 million. Her family wouldn't even notice the money was gone!!!!!!!!!!"

Then Trump will go down to defeat.

Democrats will have ample funds. Trump might be in a position where he has too much money. Run too many campaign ads and people start tuning out.

 

[busybee01]

Looks like Barr will be served a subpoena today

What will they do when he ignores it? Take it to the courts? The Law says what it says, and Barr is following it.

The laws do not apply to Congress. They have the duty of oversight of the executive branch and being able to subpoena those documents are a part of that oversight. This is not a active investigation anymore so there is no excuse for not allowing Congress to see them. They have the security clearances so that is not a issue.

If you believe letting Shit For Brains get his hands on the undeducted report b/c he has a "security clearance" will not 100% GUARANTEE HE WON'T LEAK THE REPORT TO THE NYT WITHIN AN HOUR YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!

Does not matter . Congress has a right to see the unredacted report. Worth noting that Rosenstein turned over some documents Republicans wanted and within hours it was leaked. That doesn't seem to bother you. YOU ARE A FUCKING TRUMP IDIOT!

 

[Rustic]

Looks like Barr will be served a subpoena today

What will they do when he ignores it? Take it to the courts? The Law says what it says, and Barr is following it.

The laws do not apply to Congress. They have the duty of oversight of the executive branch and being able to subpoena those documents are a part of that oversight. This is not a active investigation anymore so there is no excuse for not allowing Congress to see them. They have the security clearances so that is not a issue.

If you believe letting Shit For Brains get his hands on the undeducted report b/c he has a "security clearance" will not 100% GUARANTEE HE WON'T LEAK THE REPORT TO THE NYT WITHIN AN HOUR YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!

Does not matter . Congress has a right to see the unredacted report. Worth noting that Rosenstein turned over some documents Republicans wanted and within hours it was leaked. That doesn't seem to bother you. YOU ARE A FUCKING TRUMP IDIOT!

... and still no Russian connection

 

[busybee01]

The Congress is entitled to the full UNREDACTED report. It is part of their oversight duties.

"Oversight" doesn't mean that the House can run roughshod over the Executive.
The USSC will probably need to decide on the interpretation of the "Law vs oversight".
Barr will not provide the unredacted report until the USSC says they have to.

Yes it does in regards to any document that is produced by the Executive Branch.
If the USSC follows the precedents established during Watergate, it will be released to Congress.
Barr will not be allowed to continue his coverup.

I guess you are not aware that the law was changed, by the DEMs, after Bill Clinton was impeached.
There's lots of information about the change in the law available on Google.

Again Congress has oversight powers and are entitled to see the unredacted report. A law cannot override the Constitution. I would suggest you look at information regarding the White House's refusal to turn over documents to Congress during the Watergate investigation.

I suggest you read the law that the DEMs changed after Watergate.
Maybe then you wouldn't post nonsense. Maybe.

Congress cannot legislate away it's constitutionally mandated powers.

 

[busybee01]

The Stone home surveillance camera PROVES that CNN's news crew arrived in front of Stone's home a full hour before the SWAT team arrived. The CNN news team had all their equipment ready to roll when the SWAT team showed up.....right on time.
Someone at CNN is going to be eventually charged with a series of crimes when the new Special Counsel begins their comprehensive investigations.

Don't hold your breath waiting for that. You won't make it. CNN will not be charged with anything.

 

[Thinker101]

The Stone home surveillance camera PROVES that CNN's news crew arrived in front of Stone's home a full hour before the SWAT team arrived. The CNN news team had all their equipment ready to roll when the SWAT team showed up.....right on time.
Someone at CNN is going to be eventually charged with a series of crimes when the new Special Counsel begins their comprehensive investigations.

Don't5 hold your breath waiting for that. You won't make it. CNN will not be charged with anything.

That is good news, settlements outside of court are always so much easier.

 

[beautress]

The Stone home surveillance camera PROVES that CNN's news crew arrived in front of Stone's home a full hour before the SWAT team arrived. The CNN news team had all their equipment ready to roll when the SWAT team showed up.....right on time.
Someone at CNN is going to be eventually charged with a series of crimes when the new Special Counsel begins their comprehensive investigations.

Don't5 hold your breath waiting for that. You won't make it. CNN will not be charged with anything.

Think again.