Ben Carson refers to slaves as "immigrants"

[Asclepias]

Dumbass, slaves were not immigrants.

So, when you said, "usually willingly" you were just talking shit?

Oh, give it a rest.. Do you see any mention of slaves in that exchange? Since immigrants were considered humans during slavery and slaves were commodities, not humans, the argument ends here.

THe opinions of some slavers did not change the reality of the situation, ie the slaves were people.


YOur pretense that it did, is vile beyond belief.

I had no intent of invoking Godwin's law but present circumstance bring me to the precipice of using it.
Dehumanization was an integral part of the White Christian American brand of slavery and it preceded, by far, the dehumanization of the Jews in Christian Nazi Germany. The reality is not only have people of color been dehumanized to justify slavery but sub human"races" based on religious preference have been created to justify genocide. Don't get teary eyed on me now and start to invoke the creed of the abolitionist.
The institution of slavery was apart of the social fabric if this nation for several hundred years.

A minority of abolitionists were the only visible proponents of humanity for Blacks. Tell me how vile THAT was? Burt more on point. The only law on those slave ships was slaver's law. And the slave cargo they carried was no more human to them than the other livestock on board. Immigrants???? Hardly... teh ships Captain would have thrown a mug of grog in your face, laughed and walked away saying..."blow me down" this pecker head is crazy!"

And in order to support your smear on Ben Carson, you are accepting and defending that Dehumanization as the reality of the situation.


In this, you are literally siding with the slavers. ANd mouthing their arguments as your own.


I dismiss their arguments as self serving bullshit.

The slaves were humans.

What smear? Carson acknowledged he made a mistake.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Obama used a modifying clause to clarify he wasn't saying slaves were immigrants per se. Carson outright stated that African slaves, considered non human at the time were immigrants when in fact they were just CARGO. = jUst like the ducks, pigs and other animals on the same ships. I see slaves as human, but , the slavers didn't.

Hilarious watching you do gymnastics attempting to defend Obama calling slaves immigrants.

BTW - Obama did it 11 separate occasions.

Keep going, this is fun.

You have shown one occasion, I guess the rest are in you demented mind...unless he said it 11 times on the same tape... I just went by what the source wrote.

Not my fault you lack the intelligence to click the links of over a dozen news sources quoting Obama calling slaves immigrants 11 times.

Your faux outrage is busted, but I am happy you keep coming back for more beatings.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You do know that Obama's mother was white, don't you dumbass?

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

you don't believe in race? how do you explain the differences between caucasian, mongoloid, and negroid?

The same way they did for thousands of years before some White guy i Germany said "let there be race."

Thats not entirely true, if you research the Islamic/Arab slave trade which spanned over a thousand years. The word they used to describe Africans litteraly meant "slave". I doubt by this time white europeans had african slaves, but they themselves had been taken as slaves by Arabs who sailed as far as Iceland to get them.

Then allow me to examine the "truth" in your premise as well. The very word "slave" is derived from the word "SLAV."
slave
Word History: The derivation of the word slave encapsulates a bit of European history and explains why the twowords slave and Slav are so similar; they are, in fact, historically identical. The word slave first appears in Englisharound 1290, spelled sclave. The spelling is based on Old French esclave from Medieval Latin sclavus, "Slav, slave,"first recorded around 800. Sclavus comes from Byzantine Greek sklabos (pronounced sklä′vōs) "Slav," which appearsaround 580. Sklavos approximates the Slavs' own name for themselves

Continuing... A you can see the word "slavery" has origins in Europe, not the middle east or Africa. And also I would impress upon you to take notice of the difference between chattel slavery and human bondage. That slight variation is dependent on how the captor's society sees his captives. Chattel slavery i the world of Ilam was decidedly less racial intensive than Christian slavery according to the following passage:

How Islam moderated slavery
Islam's approach to slavery added the idea that freedom was the natural state of affairs for human beings and in line with this it limited the opportunities to enslave people, commended the freeing of slaves and regulated the way slaves were treated:

• Islam greatly limited those who could be enslaved and under what circumstances (although these restrictions were often evaded)
• Islam treated slaves as human beings as well as property
• Islam banned the mistreatment of slaves - indeed the tradition repeatedly stresses the importance of treating slaves with kindness and compassion
• Islam allowed slaves to achieve their freedom and made freeing slaves a virtuous act
• Islam barred Muslims from enslaving other Muslims

BBC - Religions - Islam: Slavery in Islam

You can inform the tens of thousands of slaves currently being held by Islamic warlords.

 

[Correll]

So, when you said, "usually willingly" you were just talking shit?

Oh, give it a rest.. Do you see any mention of slaves in that exchange? Since immigrants were considered humans during slavery and slaves were commodities, not humans, the argument ends here.

THe opinions of some slavers did not change the reality of the situation, ie the slaves were people.


YOur pretense that it did, is vile beyond belief.

I had no intent of invoking Godwin's law but present circumstance bring me to the precipice of using it.
Dehumanization was an integral part of the White Christian American brand of slavery and it preceded, by far, the dehumanization of the Jews in Christian Nazi Germany. The reality is not only have people of color been dehumanized to justify slavery but sub human"races" based on religious preference have been created to justify genocide. Don't get teary eyed on me now and start to invoke the creed of the abolitionist.
The institution of slavery was apart of the social fabric if this nation for several hundred years.

A minority of abolitionists were the only visible proponents of humanity for Blacks. Tell me how vile THAT was? Burt more on point. The only law on those slave ships was slaver's law. And the slave cargo they carried was no more human to them than the other livestock on board. Immigrants???? Hardly... teh ships Captain would have thrown a mug of grog in your face, laughed and walked away saying..."blow me down" this pecker head is crazy!"

And in order to support your smear on Ben Carson, you are accepting and defending that Dehumanization as the reality of the situation.


In this, you are literally siding with the slavers. ANd mouthing their arguments as your own.


I dismiss their arguments as self serving bullshit.

The slaves were humans.

What smear? Carson acknowledged he made a mistake.

How do you feel about that?

 

[Asclepias]

Oh, give it a rest.. Do you see any mention of slaves in that exchange? Since immigrants were considered humans during slavery and slaves were commodities, not humans, the argument ends here.

THe opinions of some slavers did not change the reality of the situation, ie the slaves were people.


YOur pretense that it did, is vile beyond belief.

I had no intent of invoking Godwin's law but present circumstance bring me to the precipice of using it.
Dehumanization was an integral part of the White Christian American brand of slavery and it preceded, by far, the dehumanization of the Jews in Christian Nazi Germany. The reality is not only have people of color been dehumanized to justify slavery but sub human"races" based on religious preference have been created to justify genocide. Don't get teary eyed on me now and start to invoke the creed of the abolitionist.
The institution of slavery was apart of the social fabric if this nation for several hundred years.

A minority of abolitionists were the only visible proponents of humanity for Blacks. Tell me how vile THAT was? Burt more on point. The only law on those slave ships was slaver's law. And the slave cargo they carried was no more human to them than the other livestock on board. Immigrants???? Hardly... teh ships Captain would have thrown a mug of grog in your face, laughed and walked away saying..."blow me down" this pecker head is crazy!"

And in order to support your smear on Ben Carson, you are accepting and defending that Dehumanization as the reality of the situation.


In this, you are literally siding with the slavers. ANd mouthing their arguments as your own.


I dismiss their arguments as self serving bullshit.

The slaves were humans.

What smear? Carson acknowledged he made a mistake.

How do you feel about that?

How do I feel about what?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Unlike your dear leader Obama who said the same exact thing, Ben Carson is actually a descendent of slaves.

Er... no you are wrong there too, Obama's mother had a Black American slave ancestor.

You do know that Obama's mother was white, don't you dumbass?

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

From what recesses of your colon did you pull that one from? His white ancestor was the first US slave?

I truly want to know where you acquire this misinformation.

 

[Asclepias]

Er... no you are wrong there too, Obama's mother had a Black American slave ancestor.

You do know that Obama's mother was white, don't you dumbass?

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

From what recesses of your colon did you pull that one from? His white ancestor was the first US slave?

Who said the ancestor I am referring to is white you retard?

 

[Marion Morrison]

You do know that Obama's mother was white, don't you dumbass?

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

From what recesses of your colon did you pull that one from? His white ancestor was the first US slave?

Who said the ancestor I am referring to is white?

Because on his father's side they are Kenyan. I.E: Not American. The part of Obama that has American ancestry are white loony Communists.

 

[Asclepias]

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

From what recesses of your colon did you pull that one from? His white ancestor was the first US slave?

Who said the ancestor I am referring to is white?

Because on his father's side they are Kenyan. I.E: Not American.

I am aware of that. Whats your point?

 

[Divine Wind]

Calling slaves "immigrants" is a euphemism. There's a difference between those who chose to come here and those who were kidnapped and brought here. A vast difference.

No one is denying that. Still, per the definition, "immigrant" applies to slaves, indentured servants and prisoners as well as those who came to the US of their own free will.

Look at Australia's Botany Bay. Immigrants or not? They
were immigrants, albeit unwilling ones.

First Australian penal colony established - Jan 26, 1788 - HISTORY.com
JANUARY 26, 1788 : FIRST AUSTRALIAN PENAL COLONY ESTABLISHED

The first 736 convicts banished from England to Australia land in Botany Bay. Over the next 60 years, approximately 50,000 criminals were transported from Great Britain to the “land down under,” in one of the strangest episodes in criminal-justice history.

The accepted wisdom of the upper and ruling classes in 18th century England was that criminals were inherently defective. Thus, they could not be rehabilitated and simply required separation from the genetically pure and law-abiding citizens. Accordingly, lawbreakers had to be either killed or exiled, since prisons were too expensive. With the American victory in the Revolutionary War, transgressors could no longer be shipped off across the Atlantic, and the English looked for a colony in the other direction.

Captain Arthur Phillip, a tough but fair career naval officer, was charged with setting up the first penal colony in Australia. The convicts were chained beneath the deck during the entire hellish six-month voyage. The first voyage claimed the lives of nearly 10 percent of the prisoners, which remarkably proved to be a rather good rate. On later trips, up to a third of the unwilling passengers died on the way. These were not hardened criminals by any measure; only a small minority were transported for violent offenses. Among the first group was a 70-year-old woman who had stolen cheese to eat.

Although not confined behind bars, most convicts in Australia had an extremely tough life. The guards who volunteered for duty in Australia seemed to be driven by exceptional sadism. Even small violations of the rules could result in a punishment of 100 lashes by the cat o’nine tails. It was said that blood was usually drawn after five lashes and convicts ended up walking home in boots filled with their own blood–that is, if they were able to walk at all.

Convicts who attempted to escape were sent to tiny Norfolk Island, 600 miles east of Australia, where the conditions were even more inhumane. The only hope of escape from the horror of Norfolk Island was a “game” in which groups of three prisoners drew straws. The short straw was killed as painlessly as possible and a judge was then shipped in to put the other two on trial, one playing the role of killer, the other as witness.

 

[Divine Wind]

Carson has been hypnotized by white supremacy. He is now called uncle Ruckus.

Your racism is exceptional even among hardened racists.

 

[Asclepias]

Carson has been hypnotized by white supremacy. He is now called uncle Ruckus.

Your racism is exceptional even among hardened racists.

Coming from you thats a compliment.

 

[Call Sign Chaos]

Unlike your dear leader Obama who said the same exact thing, Ben Carson is actually a descendent of slaves.

Er... no you are wrong there too, Obama's mother had a Black American slave ancestor.

You do know that Obama's mother was white, don't you dumbass?

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

Are you being facetious? Provide the genealogy report, I'll wait.

 

[Correll]

THe opinions of some slavers did not change the reality of the situation, ie the slaves were people.


YOur pretense that it did, is vile beyond belief.

I had no intent of invoking Godwin's law but present circumstance bring me to the precipice of using it.
Dehumanization was an integral part of the White Christian American brand of slavery and it preceded, by far, the dehumanization of the Jews in Christian Nazi Germany. The reality is not only have people of color been dehumanized to justify slavery but sub human"races" based on religious preference have been created to justify genocide. Don't get teary eyed on me now and start to invoke the creed of the abolitionist.
The institution of slavery was apart of the social fabric if this nation for several hundred years.

A minority of abolitionists were the only visible proponents of humanity for Blacks. Tell me how vile THAT was? Burt more on point. The only law on those slave ships was slaver's law. And the slave cargo they carried was no more human to them than the other livestock on board. Immigrants???? Hardly... teh ships Captain would have thrown a mug of grog in your face, laughed and walked away saying..."blow me down" this pecker head is crazy!"

And in order to support your smear on Ben Carson, you are accepting and defending that Dehumanization as the reality of the situation.


In this, you are literally siding with the slavers. ANd mouthing their arguments as your own.


I dismiss their arguments as self serving bullshit.

The slaves were humans.

What smear? Carson acknowledged he made a mistake.

How do you feel about that?

How do I feel about what?

You stated ONE thing. What do you think I was asking about?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

From what recesses of your colon did you pull that one from? His white ancestor was the first US slave?

Who said the ancestor I am referring to is white?

Because on his father's side they are Kenyan. I.E: Not American.

I am aware of that. Whats your point?

Show me the family tree where Obama is related to the first slave in America, unless that slave got a woman pregnant before he came to America.

Here's a little hint: It's almost impossible for him to be a direct descendant,unless that slave got a woman pregnant before leaving Africa.

 

[Asclepias]

Er... no you are wrong there too, Obama's mother had a Black American slave ancestor.

You do know that Obama's mother was white, don't you dumbass?

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

Are you being facetious? Provide the genealogy report, I'll wait.

One should research before making wild claims when they have no clue of their claims validity.

Obama descended from slave ancestor

"Punch is known to historians because of a 1647 Virginia court decree that made him the first recorded African in the state’s history to be legally “enslaved for life.”

 

[Asclepias]

I had no intent of invoking Godwin's law but present circumstance bring me to the precipice of using it.
Dehumanization was an integral part of the White Christian American brand of slavery and it preceded, by far, the dehumanization of the Jews in Christian Nazi Germany. The reality is not only have people of color been dehumanized to justify slavery but sub human"races" based on religious preference have been created to justify genocide. Don't get teary eyed on me now and start to invoke the creed of the abolitionist.
The institution of slavery was apart of the social fabric if this nation for several hundred years.

A minority of abolitionists were the only visible proponents of humanity for Blacks. Tell me how vile THAT was? Burt more on point. The only law on those slave ships was slaver's law. And the slave cargo they carried was no more human to them than the other livestock on board. Immigrants???? Hardly... teh ships Captain would have thrown a mug of grog in your face, laughed and walked away saying..."blow me down" this pecker head is crazy!"

And in order to support your smear on Ben Carson, you are accepting and defending that Dehumanization as the reality of the situation.


In this, you are literally siding with the slavers. ANd mouthing their arguments as your own.


I dismiss their arguments as self serving bullshit.

The slaves were humans.

What smear? Carson acknowledged he made a mistake.

How do you feel about that?

How do I feel about what?

You stated ONE thing. What do you think I was asking about?

I didnt know. Thats why I asked. You didnt make it clear what you were asking about. If youre asking about what i stated I dont feel anything. What did you expect or want me to feel?

 

[Asclepias]

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

From what recesses of your colon did you pull that one from? His white ancestor was the first US slave?

Who said the ancestor I am referring to is white?

Because on his father's side they are Kenyan. I.E: Not American.

I am aware of that. Whats your point?

Show me the family tree where Obama is related to the first slave in America, unless that slave got a woman pregnant before he came to America.

Here's a little hint: It's almost impossible for him to be a direct descendant.

Go look it up. I already posted a link you can research. Its easy for him to be a direct descendant. What kind of retarded claim is that?

 

[Weatherman2020]

You do know that Obama's mother was white, don't you dumbass?

I don't believe in race, dumbass but since I live in a country obsessed by it I have to use the term to converse with you troglodytes. Google it you DMF!

Race has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is not the descendant of slaves you stupid faggot.

You dont know what you are talking about. Obama is the descendant of the first officially recognized slave in the US.

Are you being facetious? Provide the genealogy report, I'll wait.

One should research before making wild claims when they have no clue of their claims validity.

Obama descended from slave ancestor

"Punch is known to historians because of a 1647 Virginia court decree that made him the first recorded African in the state’s history to be legally “enslaved for life.”

You said America, now you post State of Virginia.

First slave owner in America was a black man.
Probably related to Obama.

 

[Correll]

And in order to support your smear on Ben Carson, you are accepting and defending that Dehumanization as the reality of the situation.


In this, you are literally siding with the slavers. ANd mouthing their arguments as your own.


I dismiss their arguments as self serving bullshit.

The slaves were humans.

What smear? Carson acknowledged he made a mistake.

How do you feel about that?

How do I feel about what?

You stated ONE thing. What do you think I was asking about?

I didnt know. Thats why I asked. You didnt make it clear what you were asking about. If youre asking about what i stated I dont feel anything. What did you expect or want me to feel?

YOu felt enough about it to post it. In a reply to me.


YOu are being evasive.

How do you feel about Carson "acknowledged he made a mistake".?