Benghazi: How were Republicans able to tell one deadly riot from another?

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2kFjjHPdgk]Valerie Jarrett's Stand Down Order - YouTube[/ame]

 

[American Horse]

I agree completely that is their established modus operandi. Impeachment, no matter what he is guilty of is out of the question. Impeachment is a purely political act and therefore is better not being brought up by anyone who wants to maintain their credibility.

 

[rdean]

Where was the LEFTS OUTRAGE....MIA as usual!!!

When did 4803 become more than 1926?

Course, under Obama, most of those who died happened in the country that actually attacked us.

Conservatives Say Obama Has Lost More US Troops Than Bush

It’s also worth noting the amount of American soldiers who died in Iraq in 2012: 1. And the amount who have died through November 20 of 2013: 0.

Nice MISLEADING poster.... Under Bush 581 soldiers died in Afghanistan, under Obuma 1662.... I guess you had trouble with that 39 month THING ...has you confused since you ran out of fingers and toes!

Tell us again why so many Americans died in Iraq. Was it because Iraq attacked this country?

 

[rdean]

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This is why Benghazi is such a losing issues for the GOP.

1. It happened in the middle of deadly riots going on all over the world.

2. The idea that Republicans care about Americans is humorous.

3. It reminds everyone of the GOP fiasco in Iraq, the cost in young American lives and treasure and image all around the world and the loss of the moral high ground.

4. Mrs. Clinton warned the GOP what could happen if they cut embassy security and they did anyway. The second time the GOP ignored a Clinton "warning".

5. The GOP quietly raised embassy security by $2,000,000,000.00 after saying it wasn't needed.

6. The ambassador turned down military support twice.

The republicans did not cut security funding specifically, they cut funding for non essential discretionary spending St. Dept. wide not exclusively in Libya. That was a reaction for St. Dept. Parties and junkets.

Marine security guards are available at all US Diplomatic posts, stations, and interests. Their cost is charged to the Marine Corps and DOD budget not State's. The State Department did not avail itself of that no-cost service.

They wanted no weapons visible in the hands of US personnel within the post grounds. That was because they wanted to pretend that we were so welcome that there was no need, and to show supreme trust that our presence there was not a boots on the ground operation but a purely friendly one; a naive and arrogant presumption.

They already had competent Americans as security personnel at Benghazi and the State hierarchy continuously degraded it until all was left was a private British crew who weren't allowed weapons; only Libyan nationals, privately contracted, were allowed to carry weapons. The Libyan nationals were provided by Libyan militia organizations operating around Benghazi.

The were given a "pass," an opportunity to leave for their own safety by the attackers when the attack began. The facility guards witnessed the place being reconnoitered and photos being taken on the day and the day prior to the attack.

Your #6 - the Ambassador was required (under orders) to not accept security from our own military to foster the ill founded illusion (delusion?) that it wasn't needed. That's why he kept going back to State HQ stating how dangerous it was and reporting threats - to get that policy changed before a disaster struck.

As to your #1 - and "the riots going on all over the world;". I heard Cheryl Atkinson say a while back that there were no tweets that mentioned a video in Benghazi on the day of the attack and the first tweet in which the video was mentioned was five days after the attack.

The people in Libya say they thought the attack was over the video. They live there. How can they be wrong but you're right? I know, I know. It's not possible.

No let-up in protests over anti-Islam film - CNN.com

The obscure anti-Islam film that sparked Egyptian and Libyan riots

Anger Over a Film Fuels Anti-American Attacks in Libya and Egypt

CAIRO — Protesters angry over an amateurish American-made video denouncing Islam attacked the United States Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on Tuesday, killing a State Department officer, while Egyptian demonstrators stormed over the fortified walls of the United States Embassy here.

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Considering that more than 50 people died and there were riots all over the Arab world, I'm surprised that only 4 Americans died. The number was much greater under Bush and the Republicans and they didn't even have a film.

 

[Vigilante]

When did 4803 become more than 1926?

Course, under Obama, most of those who died happened in the country that actually attacked us.

Conservatives Say Obama Has Lost More US Troops Than Bush

It’s also worth noting the amount of American soldiers who died in Iraq in 2012: 1. And the amount who have died through November 20 of 2013: 0.

Nice MISLEADING poster.... Under Bush 581 soldiers died in Afghanistan, under Obuma 1662.... I guess you had trouble with that 39 month THING ...has you confused since you ran out of fingers and toes!

Tell us again why so many Americans died in Iraq. Was it because Iraq attacked this country?

I don't know what's the matter with you subversives, don't you have any idea of history? Of course Saddam attacked our planes flying in the NO FLY zone directly breaking the peace settlement of Gulf War I! That along with the 16 resolutions from the U.N. and the threat of having WMD (Please 550 tons of UNGUARDED yellowcake IS WMD) was what we went there for!

 

[tinydancer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A9LJJuooCQ

Pakistan: Muslims burn Christian churches in day of rage

Explaining away their own violence, Muslim spokesmen blame a movie that was made in the United States entitled 'The Innocence of Muslims.' This same explanation has been proffered in the West even while information is coming in that, for example, the attack in Libya that resulted in the death of American ambassador Chris Stevens was pre-planned to commence on September 11 - the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attack. In the case of Pakistan, some protesters are demanding that the maker of the film be delivered to them to be cut up into pieces. The man in question, an Egyptian Coptic Christian, remains in hiding in California following questioning by federal authorities.

Reactions to film that sparked deadly riots all over the Arab world "Innocence of Muslims"

No let-up in protests over anti-Islam film - CNN.com

(This from the country Republicans "freed". Something tells me there will be no "Thank Bush Day".)

In Iraq, hundreds of protesters in Falluja, about 60 kilometers (35 miles) west of Baghdad, demanded the U.S. ambassador's expulsion from the country and a boycott of American products. The protesters carried flags and banners, including one that read, "It's time for all Muslims around the world to stand together against the enemy of Islam."

(It's us they are referring to as the "Enemy of Islam". Not very "grateful" are they? Tens of thousands of Americans killed and maimed and trillions spent for this? And how many USMB Republicans still think it was "worth it"?)

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This is why Benghazi is such a losing issues for the GOP.

1. It happened in the middle of deadly riots going on all over the world.

2. The idea that Republicans care about Americans is humorous.

3. It reminds everyone of the GOP fiasco in Iraq, the cost in young American lives and treasure and image all around the world and the loss of the moral high ground.

4. Mrs. Clinton warned the GOP what could happen if they cut embassy security and they did anyway. The second time the GOP ignored a Clinton "warning".

5. The GOP quietly raised embassy security by $2,000,000,000.00 after saying it wasn't needed.

6. The ambassador turned down military support twice.

Because Secretary of Defense Panetta and General Ham testified that this was a terrorist attack and that they knew this right away.

No brainer.

 

[tinydancer]

Oh and that little tidbit that they testified that they briefed the President immediately. Nuland on record that this was a complex well planned attack. E mail records can be a pesky thing.

All on the record.

 

[mudwhistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A9LJJuooCQ

Pakistan: Muslims burn Christian churches in day of rage

Explaining away their own violence, Muslim spokesmen blame a movie that was made in the United States entitled 'The Innocence of Muslims.' This same explanation has been proffered in the West even while information is coming in that, for example, the attack in Libya that resulted in the death of American ambassador Chris Stevens was pre-planned to commence on September 11 - the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attack. In the case of Pakistan, some protesters are demanding that the maker of the film be delivered to them to be cut up into pieces. The man in question, an Egyptian Coptic Christian, remains in hiding in California following questioning by federal authorities.

Reactions to film that sparked deadly riots all over the Arab world "Innocence of Muslims"

No let-up in protests over anti-Islam film - CNN.com

(This from the country Republicans "freed". Something tells me there will be no "Thank Bush Day".)

In Iraq, hundreds of protesters in Falluja, about 60 kilometers (35 miles) west of Baghdad, demanded the U.S. ambassador's expulsion from the country and a boycott of American products. The protesters carried flags and banners, including one that read, "It's time for all Muslims around the world to stand together against the enemy of Islam."

(It's us they are referring to as the "Enemy of Islam". Not very "grateful" are they? Tens of thousands of Americans killed and maimed and trillions spent for this? And how many USMB Republicans still think it was "worth it"?)

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This is why Benghazi is such a losing issues for the GOP.

1. It happened in the middle of deadly riots going on all over the world.

2. The idea that Republicans care about Americans is humorous.

3. It reminds everyone of the GOP fiasco in Iraq, the cost in young American lives and treasure and image all around the world and the loss of the moral high ground.

4. Mrs. Clinton warned the GOP what could happen if they cut embassy security and they did anyway. The second time the GOP ignored a Clinton "warning".

5. The GOP quietly raised embassy security by $2,000,000,000.00 after saying it wasn't needed.

6. The ambassador turned down military support twice.

Hillary warned the GOP about cutting embassy security? When did it become their job?

BTW, ask Hillary what happened to the missing $6,000,000,000.00 that was discovered after John Kerry took over for her?

Why is so much money disappearing around Hillary. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/u...nances-and-ambitions.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[rdean]

Do you right wingers have any idea how easy it is to destroy your talking points either one at a time or in batches?

 

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[rdean]

Too often, Republicans use cartoons to support their talking points.

Do they even know that it's a "cartoon". You know, a "joke".

 

[Vigilante]

Too often, Republicans use cartoons to support their talking points.

Do they even know that it's a "cartoon". You know, a "joke".

Yes, WE know what political satire is, part of the American political scene for CENTURIES, a picture IS WORTH a thousand words...unfortunately all you subversives know is how to lie, spin, and divert from the topic! ...But please put up some political cartoons, I have a LARGE collection to use!

 

[The T]

Too often, Republicans use cartoons to support their talking points.

Do they even know that it's a "cartoon". You know, a "joke".

Ever seen the ones those on these boards that pretend to think...(like YOU)
, think are gospel? Deany? You're the one that doesn't live in reality.

 

[The T]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A9LJJuooCQ

Pakistan: Muslims burn Christian churches in day of rage

Explaining away their own violence, Muslim spokesmen blame a movie that was made in the United States entitled 'The Innocence of Muslims.' This same explanation has been proffered in the West even while information is coming in that, for example, the attack in Libya that resulted in the death of American ambassador Chris Stevens was pre-planned to commence on September 11 - the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attack. In the case of Pakistan, some protesters are demanding that the maker of the film be delivered to them to be cut up into pieces. The man in question, an Egyptian Coptic Christian, remains in hiding in California following questioning by federal authorities.

Reactions to film that sparked deadly riots all over the Arab world "Innocence of Muslims"

No let-up in protests over anti-Islam film - CNN.com

(This from the country Republicans "freed". Something tells me there will be no "Thank Bush Day".)

In Iraq, hundreds of protesters in Falluja, about 60 kilometers (35 miles) west of Baghdad, demanded the U.S. ambassador's expulsion from the country and a boycott of American products. The protesters carried flags and banners, including one that read, "It's time for all Muslims around the world to stand together against the enemy of Islam."

(It's us they are referring to as the "Enemy of Islam". Not very "grateful" are they? Tens of thousands of Americans killed and maimed and trillions spent for this? And how many USMB Republicans still think it was "worth it"?)

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This is why Benghazi is such a losing issues for the GOP.

1. It happened in the middle of deadly riots going on all over the world.

2. The idea that Republicans care about Americans is humorous.

3. It reminds everyone of the GOP fiasco in Iraq, the cost in young American lives and treasure and image all around the world and the loss of the moral high ground.

4. Mrs. Clinton warned the GOP what could happen if they cut embassy security and they did anyway. The second time the GOP ignored a Clinton "warning".

5. The GOP quietly raised embassy security by $2,000,000,000.00 after saying it wasn't needed.

6. The ambassador turned down military support twice.

Hillary warned the GOP about cutting embassy security? When did it become their job?

BTW, ask Hillary what happened to the missing $6,000,000,000.00 that was discovered after John Kerry took over for her?

Why is so much money disappearing around Hillary. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/u...nances-and-ambitions.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Exactly! I made that point [MENTION=25451]tinydancer[/MENTION] this morning. The whereabouts of that money has yet to be answered. Maybe when they drag the Hildebeast in for more hearings on Benghazi they can ask her...?

 

[mudwhistle]

Do you right wingers have any idea how easy it is to destroy your talking points either one at a time or in batches?

If you're gonna site ThinkProgress or Media Matters, I don't think so.

 

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[The T]

Whoa!

 

[Erand7899]

Baloney, Fact is the GOP has to keep up this phony scandal to protect Mitt from himself, and try to denigrate Hillary.

From the phony "Obama ordered a Stand Down" to "Obama watched as they died" to finally "Obama lied in the Talking Points"

FACT: obama manufactured a LIE to cover a terrorist attack that got an Ambasador killed in the middle of his re-election campaign.
obama CREATED THIS LIE to cover the fact of an attack on his watch on the anniversary of 9-11 at an embassay where the people begged for more security in the months before the attack

obama LIED and had OTHERS LIE to try to blame the attack on the American right-wing; inventing an absurd story that blamed it on a video

Benghazi does not have a US Embassy. The Consulate was being upgraded at the time. Stephens knew this as he was in charge of the upgrades. Why he felt it was safe to travel there on 9-11 I'll never know. He was not ordered to go, and sadly, no one prevented him from going either.

There is a whole lot that you will never know. Stevens knew that Benghazi was dangerous, but he went anyway. Someone in the State Department knows why he went, and that is some of the information being withheld. Someone in the State Department knows why security was not increased, and that is some of the information being withheld. Someone in the White House made the decision to lie about what really occurred at Benghazi, and ordered the narrative to be changed. That is some of the information being withheld.

If this is a phony political stunt, with little substance, why is the administration still not turning over that information to the congress? The answer is obvious, but I am sure you can figure out some way of rationalizing it.

 

[The T]

FACT: obama manufactured a LIE to cover a terrorist attack that got an Ambasador killed in the middle of his re-election campaign.
obama CREATED THIS LIE to cover the fact of an attack on his watch on the anniversary of 9-11 at an embassay where the people begged for more security in the months before the attack

obama LIED and had OTHERS LIE to try to blame the attack on the American right-wing; inventing an absurd story that blamed it on a video

Benghazi does not have a US Embassy. The Consulate was being upgraded at the time. Stephens knew this as he was in charge of the upgrades. Why he felt it was safe to travel there on 9-11 I'll never know. He was not ordered to go, and sadly, no one prevented him from going either.

There is a whole lot that you will never know. Stevens knew that Benghazi was dangerous, but he went anyway. Someone in the State Department knows why he went, and that is some of the information being withheld. Someone in the State Department knows why security was not increased, and that is some of the information being withheld. Someone in the White House made the decision to lie about what really occurred at Benghazi, and ordered the narrative to be changed. That is some of the information being withheld.

If this is a phony political stunt, with little substance, why is the administration still not turning over that information to the congress? The answer is obvious, but I am sure you can figure out some way of rationalizing it.

CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked' - Telegraph

 

[mudwhistle]

Too often, Republicans use cartoons to support their talking points.

Do they even know that it's a "cartoon". You know, a "joke".

Yeah, Denie.....we know it's a joke.

That's the friggen point.......