emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
(PSsst dear qw and dt. I thought of you and Gracie all day while I was away from the board. So much I want to thank you for, it was humbling to realize how much you help me, especially since you don't see and know this yet. I found the letter I just wrote to Senator Ted Cruz office and it struck me that we can really pull this off and propose it. not just theorizing about it but really push for a system of corrections to past conflicts, based on microfinancing solutions. I meditated on the words to say before I post those thread, because there are other people I feel should specifically be invited to help co-moderate so everyone feels included.)
Dear Gracie: I found two perfect scriptures that answer your question on where is God's love for his children in the Bible.
One is Romans 8:38-39:
1a. Romans 8:38-39
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
This came from JESUS CALLING a daily devotional especially for women.
My Godmother had it opened yesterday to the exact page that answered your question!
There was another scripture interpreted on that same page, which talked about even while you fear and go through troubles, by turning focus on God then he gives us peace and strength.
1b. I will look the other scripture and revise this to add it, in the meantime here is the journal of 365 meditations one per day that explain and give the scripture, so I think this is a better way to guide someone especially women facing all kinds of things, so you are not overwhelmed: Jesus Calling: A 365-Day Journaling Devotional by Sarah Young - Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists Gracie if you prefer to stick to just the wisdom and all-embracing love of God for all his children, this guide may be perfect for you, and also to share with your sister! She gave you a challenging gift, and here is a nice resource that can be shared with her in return. Let me know if I can help you order this; where we could start a lending library for materials open to and focused on women's natural spirituality that you worry was censored from the Bible.
There were two other msgs I also wanted to post to you.
2. To address your msg worrying about how much was not included in the Bible. The answer I would share with you that helps me is not to worry, because ALL the laws of the Gentiles/natural laws are purposely not spelled out in the Bible. This is by God's design. There are instructions by Jesus about Gentiles under natural laws, but
then these instructions are given by other teachers and messengers in other contexts to address those audiences.
For example Buddhism, Constitutional laws are given separately to us; yet these are consistent with and back up the Bible and vice versa.
Gracie it would be too confusing for people to put all that in the same book. There needs to be different volumes like a library to organize all the knowledge.
The Bible is like the Master Outline, and then all the other books and tribes are referenced and require their own sources to cover all that material in full.
In Christ, we bring all the tribes and knowledge given to each, together to be unified to establish what we can know of God's truth.
it takes putting it all together, NOT cutting anything out because it doesn't have the other stuff in it; of course not, that is given elsewhere!
So does it help to see it as learning a second language? To study the background of any language helps in sharing with other people, INCLUDING being able to share what YOU know of God with others equally, so it does not conflict with any knowledge understanding or language you already have. When you learn a new language it ADDS to your understanding and ability to share/communicate with others. It opens new doors where the sharing is EQUAL in Christ. There are many other tribes also, but the common factor is we are all joined in Christ Jesus who is central authority over all other laws/local authorities and systems. So this is perfectly OK to favor one system over another and still be joined together as Children of God made equal and one in Christ Jesus! Only fear can separate us, so please do not fear, but just continue to love as you do naturally as a Child of God.
You are very gracious to seek to understand the ways of others by taking on the Bible, and there are ways to do this where you can have both, and not compromise. You will not forget how to speak English by learning to speak Spanish to connect with more people
but will appreciate both languages and their nuances, differences and similarities even more. If it's not your native language it is perfectly fine to have an accent. No one is able to speak all the languages on the planet perfectly, just the fact you are willing to try is beautiful and you will find what you need to understand.
3. I also found a poem yesterday that summarizes all the books in the Bible.
It is very cute and well written, but anonymous, an old poem I found in a book yesterday while I was offline.
I found it online here:
http://sharons-song.servingwithjoy.com/gnotntpoems.html
So I think that may help where you don't feel so lost or overwhelmed! Thanks Gracie will come back and revise this thread to add more later.
Love and hugs and hope you feel better.
"Old Testament Poem:
In GENESIS, the world was made;
In EXODUS, the march was told;
LEVITICUS contains the Law;
In NUMBERS are the tribes enrolled.
In DEUTERONOMY again,
We're urged to keep God's law alone;
And these five books of Moses make
The oldest holy writing known.
Brave JOSHUA to Canaan leads;
In JUDGES oft the Jews rebel;
We read of David's name in RUTH
And FIRST and SECOND SAMUEL.
In FIRST and SECOND KINGS we read
How bad the Hebrew state became;
In FIRST and SECOND CHRONICLES
Another history of the same.
In EZRA, captive Jews return,
And NEHEMIAH builds the wall;
Queen ESTHER saves her race from death;
These books "historical" we call.
In JOB we read of patient faith;
In PSALMS are David's songs of praise;
The PROVERBS are to make us wise;
ECCLESIASTES next portrays,
How fleeting earthly pleasures are;
The SONG OF SOLOMON is all
About true love, like Christ's,
And these Five books "Devotional" we call.
ISAIAH tells of Christ to come,
While JEREMIAH tells of woe,
And in his LAMENTATIONS mourns
The Holy City's overthrow.
EZEKIEL speaks of mysteries;
And DANIEL foretells kings of old;
HOSEA over Israel grieves;
In JOEL blessings are foretold.
In AMOS, too, are Israel's woes;
And OBADIAH's sent to warn,
While JONAH shows that Christ should die
And MICAH where He should be born.
In NAHUM Nineveh is seen;
HABAKKUK tells of Chaldea's guilt;
In ZEPHANIAH are Judah's sins;
In HAGGAI the Temple's built.
Then ZECHARIAH speaks of Christ;
And MALACHI of John, His sing;
The Prophets number seventeen,
And all the books are thirty-nine...
New Testament Poem:
MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE and JOHN
Tell what Christ did in every place;
The ACTS tell what the Apostles did,
And ROMANS how we're saved by grace.
CORINTHIANS instruct the church;
GALATIANS show us Christ alone;
EPHESIANS, true love,
And in PHILIPPIANS God's grace is shown.
COLOSSIANS tells us more of Christ,
And THESSALONIANS of the end;
In TIMOTHY and TITUS both
Are rules for preachers to attend.
PHILEMON, Christian friendship shows,
Then HEBREWS clearly tells how all
The Jewish law prefigured Christ;
And these Epistles are by Paul.
JAMES shows that faith by works must live,
And PETER urges steadfastness;
While JOHN exhorts to Christian love,
For those who have it God will bless.
JUDE shows the end of evil men,
And REVELATION tells of Heaven;
This is the end of the New Testament
And all the books are twenty-seven..."
==============================================
One last poem for you and then I gotta go okay,
Maybe we can start another thread for "Gracie's Garden"
to share wisdom and teachings uniting native american/earth-based spirituality
with whatever you fear suppresses or is in conflict with natural laws given by the same God.
Do you want to keep this on the same thread, or just keep this one for Bible Questions only?
If you want a separate thread, I will migrate my msgs about that over there if you prefer, Gracie!
==============================================
"A Message from the Universe:
Behind the Iron Curtain
Beyond the Fall of Rome
There's Hope in the Uncertain
And Truth in the Unknown
Beneath the Stars and Planets
Along the Coral Reef
A Method calms the Madness
And War gives in to Peace
Fear not my changing Surface
For what may lie Below
But trust a Higher Purpose
That you already know!"
Love, Emily
That poem is posted somewhere on my website, along with a whole series of environmental hymnals set to popular rock songs,
about saving an ancient redwood forest in California from corporate destruction and greed; so the THEME of many of the songs is respecting God's creation and all creatures with love, and not putting Mammon or materialism above spiritual harmony and peace which is priceless in comparison (ie one of the major msgs in the Bible, not to put Mammon or materialism above God/spirituality).
Gracie if you prefer this thread for answering Bible questions with scripture only, what do you think of the idea of starting a new thread for growing a Garden with "all kinds of stuff mixed in there" from different sources if you like! Do you want to focus on God as Nature in a separate thread and keep this for Bible scripture and study?
Dear Gracie: I found two perfect scriptures that answer your question on where is God's love for his children in the Bible.
One is Romans 8:38-39:
1a. Romans 8:38-39
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
This came from JESUS CALLING a daily devotional especially for women.
My Godmother had it opened yesterday to the exact page that answered your question!
There was another scripture interpreted on that same page, which talked about even while you fear and go through troubles, by turning focus on God then he gives us peace and strength.
1b. I will look the other scripture and revise this to add it, in the meantime here is the journal of 365 meditations one per day that explain and give the scripture, so I think this is a better way to guide someone especially women facing all kinds of things, so you are not overwhelmed: Jesus Calling: A 365-Day Journaling Devotional by Sarah Young - Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists Gracie if you prefer to stick to just the wisdom and all-embracing love of God for all his children, this guide may be perfect for you, and also to share with your sister! She gave you a challenging gift, and here is a nice resource that can be shared with her in return. Let me know if I can help you order this; where we could start a lending library for materials open to and focused on women's natural spirituality that you worry was censored from the Bible.
There were two other msgs I also wanted to post to you.
2. To address your msg worrying about how much was not included in the Bible. The answer I would share with you that helps me is not to worry, because ALL the laws of the Gentiles/natural laws are purposely not spelled out in the Bible. This is by God's design. There are instructions by Jesus about Gentiles under natural laws, but
then these instructions are given by other teachers and messengers in other contexts to address those audiences.
For example Buddhism, Constitutional laws are given separately to us; yet these are consistent with and back up the Bible and vice versa.
Gracie it would be too confusing for people to put all that in the same book. There needs to be different volumes like a library to organize all the knowledge.
The Bible is like the Master Outline, and then all the other books and tribes are referenced and require their own sources to cover all that material in full.
In Christ, we bring all the tribes and knowledge given to each, together to be unified to establish what we can know of God's truth.
it takes putting it all together, NOT cutting anything out because it doesn't have the other stuff in it; of course not, that is given elsewhere!
So does it help to see it as learning a second language? To study the background of any language helps in sharing with other people, INCLUDING being able to share what YOU know of God with others equally, so it does not conflict with any knowledge understanding or language you already have. When you learn a new language it ADDS to your understanding and ability to share/communicate with others. It opens new doors where the sharing is EQUAL in Christ. There are many other tribes also, but the common factor is we are all joined in Christ Jesus who is central authority over all other laws/local authorities and systems. So this is perfectly OK to favor one system over another and still be joined together as Children of God made equal and one in Christ Jesus! Only fear can separate us, so please do not fear, but just continue to love as you do naturally as a Child of God.
You are very gracious to seek to understand the ways of others by taking on the Bible, and there are ways to do this where you can have both, and not compromise. You will not forget how to speak English by learning to speak Spanish to connect with more people
but will appreciate both languages and their nuances, differences and similarities even more. If it's not your native language it is perfectly fine to have an accent. No one is able to speak all the languages on the planet perfectly, just the fact you are willing to try is beautiful and you will find what you need to understand.
3. I also found a poem yesterday that summarizes all the books in the Bible.
It is very cute and well written, but anonymous, an old poem I found in a book yesterday while I was offline.
I found it online here:
http://sharons-song.servingwithjoy.com/gnotntpoems.html
So I think that may help where you don't feel so lost or overwhelmed! Thanks Gracie will come back and revise this thread to add more later.
Love and hugs and hope you feel better.
"Old Testament Poem:
In GENESIS, the world was made;
In EXODUS, the march was told;
LEVITICUS contains the Law;
In NUMBERS are the tribes enrolled.
In DEUTERONOMY again,
We're urged to keep God's law alone;
And these five books of Moses make
The oldest holy writing known.
Brave JOSHUA to Canaan leads;
In JUDGES oft the Jews rebel;
We read of David's name in RUTH
And FIRST and SECOND SAMUEL.
In FIRST and SECOND KINGS we read
How bad the Hebrew state became;
In FIRST and SECOND CHRONICLES
Another history of the same.
In EZRA, captive Jews return,
And NEHEMIAH builds the wall;
Queen ESTHER saves her race from death;
These books "historical" we call.
In JOB we read of patient faith;
In PSALMS are David's songs of praise;
The PROVERBS are to make us wise;
ECCLESIASTES next portrays,
How fleeting earthly pleasures are;
The SONG OF SOLOMON is all
About true love, like Christ's,
And these Five books "Devotional" we call.
ISAIAH tells of Christ to come,
While JEREMIAH tells of woe,
And in his LAMENTATIONS mourns
The Holy City's overthrow.
EZEKIEL speaks of mysteries;
And DANIEL foretells kings of old;
HOSEA over Israel grieves;
In JOEL blessings are foretold.
In AMOS, too, are Israel's woes;
And OBADIAH's sent to warn,
While JONAH shows that Christ should die
And MICAH where He should be born.
In NAHUM Nineveh is seen;
HABAKKUK tells of Chaldea's guilt;
In ZEPHANIAH are Judah's sins;
In HAGGAI the Temple's built.
Then ZECHARIAH speaks of Christ;
And MALACHI of John, His sing;
The Prophets number seventeen,
And all the books are thirty-nine...
New Testament Poem:
MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE and JOHN
Tell what Christ did in every place;
The ACTS tell what the Apostles did,
And ROMANS how we're saved by grace.
CORINTHIANS instruct the church;
GALATIANS show us Christ alone;
EPHESIANS, true love,
And in PHILIPPIANS God's grace is shown.
COLOSSIANS tells us more of Christ,
And THESSALONIANS of the end;
In TIMOTHY and TITUS both
Are rules for preachers to attend.
PHILEMON, Christian friendship shows,
Then HEBREWS clearly tells how all
The Jewish law prefigured Christ;
And these Epistles are by Paul.
JAMES shows that faith by works must live,
And PETER urges steadfastness;
While JOHN exhorts to Christian love,
For those who have it God will bless.
JUDE shows the end of evil men,
And REVELATION tells of Heaven;
This is the end of the New Testament
And all the books are twenty-seven..."
==============================================
One last poem for you and then I gotta go okay,
Maybe we can start another thread for "Gracie's Garden"
to share wisdom and teachings uniting native american/earth-based spirituality
with whatever you fear suppresses or is in conflict with natural laws given by the same God.
Do you want to keep this on the same thread, or just keep this one for Bible Questions only?
If you want a separate thread, I will migrate my msgs about that over there if you prefer, Gracie!
==============================================
"A Message from the Universe:
Behind the Iron Curtain
Beyond the Fall of Rome
There's Hope in the Uncertain
And Truth in the Unknown
Beneath the Stars and Planets
Along the Coral Reef
A Method calms the Madness
And War gives in to Peace
Fear not my changing Surface
For what may lie Below
But trust a Higher Purpose
That you already know!"
Love, Emily
That poem is posted somewhere on my website, along with a whole series of environmental hymnals set to popular rock songs,
about saving an ancient redwood forest in California from corporate destruction and greed; so the THEME of many of the songs is respecting God's creation and all creatures with love, and not putting Mammon or materialism above spiritual harmony and peace which is priceless in comparison (ie one of the major msgs in the Bible, not to put Mammon or materialism above God/spirituality).
Gracie if you prefer this thread for answering Bible questions with scripture only, what do you think of the idea of starting a new thread for growing a Garden with "all kinds of stuff mixed in there" from different sources if you like! Do you want to focus on God as Nature in a separate thread and keep this for Bible scripture and study?
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