Biblical Reasons Why Christians Shouldn't Get Crazy About Abortion

[MarcATL]

In my morning devotion yesterday I came across the following verses, Romans 14:10-12 and 2 Corinthians 5:10.

As you can see, the message is very simple.

It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

It's very clear.

So whenever you see an individual getting all bent out of shape over abortion, claiming Christianity, we know that they don't have the proper connection with Christ they claim and/or believe they do.

This is why I don't get caught up with the nonsense in that debate, because it's up to each individual to make that choice and they will have to face their Maker, not me.

 

[BreezeWood]

OP: It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

passing Judgement and the salvation of mankind are two different subjects ... The final Judgement will include the species as a whole, as well.

we are all in this together - like it or not.

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[Mr. H.]

Yet judgment is passed on the pre-born.

Right...

 

[Chuckt]

In my morning devotion yesterday I came across the following verses, Romans 14:10-12 and 2 Corinthians 5:10.

As you can see, the message is very simple.

It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

It's very clear.

So whenever you see an individual getting all bent out of shape over abortion, claiming Christianity, we know that they don't have the proper connection with Christ they claim and/or believe they do.

This is why I don't get caught up with the nonsense in that debate, because it's up to each individual to make that choice and they will have to face their Maker, not me.

The passage doesn't exactly say what you think it says unless you isolate it from the context of the passage.

The chapter starts with and I'm not sure where the chapter break is actually:

14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

The passage is about a person's conscience.

The passage is about judging a brother with a weaker conscience:

15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

If you actually put yourself in the passage, you are guilty of the passage because you are stumbling your weaker brother who believes Abortion is wrong:

19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

If Abortion was a secondary issue, you are still stumbling your brother and disobeying the passage you use on others.

We're actually allowed to judge... Just not on things that are secondary issues. I believe Abortion is a sin.

So no. You can't isolate a text from the passage and make a text a pretext.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

 

[Katzndogz]

To the confused, it means that no one should ever judge another person. Following that line of reasoning, murder, theft, extortion and kidnapping would be activities which you cannot judge as wrong.

Of course that's not what the Bible means at all. It is incumbent upon every civilized society to judge that murder is wrong.

 

[BreezeWood]

To the confused, it means that no one should ever judge another person. Following that line of reasoning, murder, theft, extortion and kidnapping would be activities which you cannot judge as wrong.

Of course that's not what the Bible means at all. It is incumbent upon every civilized society to judge that murder is wrong.

being a carnivorous creation, that Judgement is a subtlety not addressed by the flawed Christian Bible ... as per not the judgement of civilization but of the Garden of God as a whole.


the Sea Gulls ravaging the newly born Terrapins is not murder -

ravaging the Garden by mankind is.

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[Flopper]

To the confused, it means that no one should ever judge another person. Following that line of reasoning, murder, theft, extortion and kidnapping would be activities which you cannot judge as wrong.

Of course that's not what the Bible means at all. It is incumbent upon every civilized society to judge that murder is wrong.

That's correct, no one should judge murder, theft, extortion, and kidnapping. That's why we have courts.

 

[MarcATL]

OP: It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

passing Judgement and the salvation of mankind are two different subjects ... The final Judgement will include the species as a whole, as well.

we are all in this together - like it or not.

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You are wrong.

Please provide biblical evidence to back up that claim sir.

 

[MarcATL]

To the confused, it means that no one should ever judge another person. Following that line of reasoning, murder, theft, extortion and kidnapping would be activities which you cannot judge as wrong.

Of course that's not what the Bible means at all. It is incumbent upon every civilized society to judge that murder is wrong.

And the United States of America has made that judgement. Abortion is legal.

What's your point?

 

[MarcATL]

In my morning devotion yesterday I came across the following verses, Romans 14:10-12 and 2 Corinthians 5:10.

As you can see, the message is very simple.

It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

It's very clear.

So whenever you see an individual getting all bent out of shape over abortion, claiming Christianity, we know that they don't have the proper connection with Christ they claim and/or believe they do.

This is why I don't get caught up with the nonsense in that debate, because it's up to each individual to make that choice and they will have to face their Maker, not me.

The passage doesn't exactly say what you think it says unless you isolate it from the context of the passage.

The chapter starts with and I'm not sure where the chapter break is actually:

14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

The passage is about a person's conscience.

The passage is about judging a brother with a weaker conscience:

15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

If you actually put yourself in the passage, you are guilty of the passage because you are stumbling your weaker brother who believes Abortion is wrong:

19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

If Abortion was a secondary issue, you are still stumbling your brother and disobeying the passage you use on others.

We're actually allowed to judge... Just not on things that are secondary issues. I believe Abortion is a sin.

So no. You can't isolate a text from the passage and make a text a pretext.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

You're taking context and filling it in with your pretext. AKA you're not making any sense.

The passages refer to passing judgement on your neighbor. Specifically, warning against tht and exhorting the individual to leave it up to God.

I think abortion is wrong, my OP isn't a support of abortion.

Sorry brother, but you're simply not making any sense.

 

[MarcATL]

Yet judgment is passed on the pre-born.

Right...

Where are you getting this from?

 

[Warrior102]

In my morning devotion yesterday I came across the following verses, Romans 14:10-12 and 2 Corinthians 5:10.

As you can see, the message is very simple.

It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

It's very clear.

So whenever you see an individual getting all bent out of shape over abortion, claiming Christianity, we know that they don't have the proper connection with Christ they claim and/or believe they do.

This is why I don't get caught up with the nonsense in that debate, because it's up to each individual to make that choice and they will have to face their Maker, not me.

Next time you're jerking off/doing your morning devotion, ponder on the "Thou Shall Not Kill" concept, asswipe.

 

[Warrior102]

And the United States of America has made that judgement. Abortion is legal.

And slavery was legal in the U.S., numb-nuts. You'd be all for that because it was legal, right, shitforbrains?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

To the confused, it means that no one should ever judge another person. Following that line of reasoning, murder, theft, extortion and kidnapping would be activities which you cannot judge as wrong.

Of course that's not what the Bible means at all. It is incumbent upon every civilized society to judge that murder is wrong.

And the United States of America has made that judgement. Abortion is legal.

What's your point?

One is not obliged to give unto Caesar that which is offensive to God.

 

[BreezeWood]

OP: It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

passing Judgement and the salvation of mankind are two different subjects ... The final Judgement will include the species as a whole, as well.

we are all in this together - like it or not.

.

You are wrong.

Please provide biblical evidence to back up that claim sir.

the parable of Noah - the Triumph of Good over Evil or of Evil over Good - the final Judgement is for God to decide after one or the other is completed.

True evidence of God is not necessarily Biblical ... you are wrong, God created the species not an individual.

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[MarcATL]

passing Judgement and the salvation of mankind are two different subjects ... The final Judgement will include the species as a whole, as well.

we are all in this together - like it or not.

.

You are wrong.

Please provide biblical evidence to back up that claim sir.

the parable of Noah - the Triumph of Good over Evil or of Evil over Good - the final Judgement is for God to decide when one or the other is completed.

True evidence of God is not necessarily Biblical ... you are wrong, God created the species not an individual.

.

Waitaminute, you're calling the story of a Noah a PARABLE?

Am I understanding you correctly?

I'm discerning that you don't know head from tails when it comes to biblical matters.

Based on that alone. Not to mention you're wrong understanding of the story itself.

 

[BreezeWood]

You are wrong.

Please provide biblical evidence to back up that claim sir.

the parable of Noah - the Triumph of Good over Evil or of Evil over Good - the final Judgement is for God to decide when one or the other is completed.

True evidence of God is not necessarily Biblical ... you are wrong, God created the species not an individual.

.

Waitaminute, you're calling the story of a Noah a PARABLE?

Am I understanding you correctly?

I'm discerning that you don't know head from tails when it comes to biblical matters.

Based on that alone. Not to mention you're wrong understanding of the story itself.

physical presence, word of mouth is the Bible of God - it is you that misunderstands the parable of Noah ... and its meaning for Mankind, the species.

.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I repeat, followers of God are not to follow laws and practices that are offensive to God. The murder of unborn babies is an offense to God. Claiming one is a Christian while defending abortion is an offense to God.

The only acceptable use of abortion is to save the mother's life.

Anyone that openly applauds abortion, makes excuses for it, defends it as just or right or claims those that Follow God should not see it as the sin it is, is in fact sinning themselves.

It is right and acceptable to attempt to convince these sinners they are wrong and should change their beliefs.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In my morning devotion yesterday I came across the following verses, Romans 14:10-12 and 2 Corinthians 5:10.

As you can see, the message is very simple.

It is not for the individual to pass judgement on another for ALL will face judgement one day.

It's very clear.

So whenever you see an individual getting all bent out of shape over abortion, claiming Christianity, we know that they don't have the proper connection with Christ they claim and/or believe they do.

This is why I don't get caught up with the nonsense in that debate, because it's up to each individual to make that choice and they will have to face their Maker, not me.

Correct.

The problem manifests, however, among the radical Christian right as a consequence of the ‘Jonah syndrome,’ where many fundamentalists believe that to respect the rights of others makes them as ‘guilty of sin’ as the woman having the abortion.

In fact, many Christian fundamentalists actually believe their god will ‘destroy America’ as ‘punishment’ for allowing the ‘sin’ of abortion to continue.

Needless to say your accurate explanation will have little, if any, effect on the radical Christian right.

 

[Sunni Man]

There is no two ways about it.......abortion is murder......and God doesn't condone murder. .