Biden, Burisma, Hunter, payoffs and tape recordings. Oh my!

[Rawley]

Lol, put up or shut up bitch. Till those tapes are played just more rumblings from the retarded right. Hilarious

LOL From the folks still talking about the pee tape.

 

[Zincwarrior]

No. The FBI refused to comply with a congressional subpoena for a reason.

It is one thing to say I don’t (yet) possess any of the tapes. It’s another thing entirely to say that they don’t exist.

Until they appear in a firm chain of custody they don't exist.

 

[BackAgain]

Until they appear in a firm chain of custody they don't exist.

That’s magical thinking. It’s not intelligent. But I guess magical thinking is still, technically, thinking.

Speaking of which, when you listened to the alleged Trump tape (referenced in the indictment), did you find that the transcription snippet “quoted” in the indictment to be accurate?

 

[Zincwarrior]

That’s magical thinking. It’s not intelligent. But I guess magical thinking is still, technically, thinking.

Its legal thinking. This is why the MAGA King lost 60+ court cases. You have to have evidence. You have to have testimony under oath. You have to have a chain of custody. When you have that then you can proclaim to the American people what you have. Otherwise you're just another ranting homeless guy on a street corner, or Trump.

Speaking of which, when you listened to the alleged Trump tape (referenced in the indictment), did you find that the transcription snippet “quoted” in the indictment to be accurate?

I read the full speaking indictment. The actual conversation will be presented with a firm chain of custody at the trial. Thats how it works.

 

[otto105]

Odd0,

I don’t know if you’ve figured out that you are a crashing and unoriginal bore.

But you are.

You seem down.

Is your white grievance not giving you the high it once did?

 

[BackAgain]

Its legal thinking. This is why the MAGA King lost 60+ court cases. You have to have evidence. You have to have testimony under oath. You have to have a chain of custody. When you have that then you can proclaim to the American people what you have. Otherwise you're just another ranting homeless guy on a street corner, or Trump.

I read the full speaking indictment. The actual conversation will be presented with a firm chain of custody at the trial. Thats how it works.

Oh.

But then again, no.

If you rob a bank and aren’t caught, the bag of $ twenties you took from the bank is still evidence which could be used against you if obtained at some later point by the police. The fact that the cops may not yet have you or the bag doesn’t alter the fact of the bag being evidence.

Similarly, if there need are 17 tape recorded conversations of Potato’s involvement (as fuckin’ Vice President of the United States of America) with a bribery of some Burisma official, then whether we yet possess any of the tapes is a different question than whether they constitute evidence. They do.

 

[otto105]

Oh.

But then again, no.

If you rob a bank and aren’t caught, the bag of $ twenties you took from the bank is still evidence which could be used against you if obtained at some later point by the police. The fact that the cops may not yet have you or the bag doesn’t alter the fact of the bag being evidence.

Similarly, if there need are 17 tape recorded conversations of Potato’s involvement (as fuckin’ Vice President of the United States of America) with a bribery of some Burisma official, then whether we yet possess any of the tapes is a different question than whether they constitute evidence. They do.

So, you so want to believe they exist.


Bluto it’s out there ask agent molder

 

[BackAgain]

You seem down.

Is your white grievance not giving you the high it once did?

You seem dull. But then again, you always are dull.

 

[otto105]

You seem dull. But then again, you always are dull.

Dude, you just need more and more white grievance until … you need an off ramp.


Where are you now?

 

[BackAgain]

Dude, you just need more and more white grievance until … you need an off ramp.


Where are you now?

Zzz. Ah, the new meaningless term from odd0 is “white grievance” even though it has no applicability.

You remain a douchebag of no value.

 

[iku]

That you choose not to give any credence to what that FBI source reported is your own decision. That doesn’t make you right.

Because I choose not to give any credence to what that FBI source reported does not make me wrong.
Joe is laughing this one off. You know why? This could be politically motivated.

 

[Ringo]

"The Pentagon overestimated the value of the weapons it sent to Ukraine by at least $3 billion - an accounting error that would allow the U.S. to send more weapons now without asking Congress for more money."

"The Pentagon found another error in its reports, underdelivering $6.2 billion in weapons to Ukraine."

They've already stopped even pretending to try to think...

 

[schmidlap]

Grassley: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe, Hunter

Sen. Chuck Grassley said Monday that the Burisma executive who allegedly paid Joe Biden and Hunter Biden kept 17 audio recordings of his conversations with them as an “insurance policy," citing the FBI FD-1023 form that the bureau briefed congressional lawmakers on.

www.foxnews.com

What will our liberals say now?

I think your "liberals" can let the facts speak for themselves.

This one has fizzled.

James Comer: “We have a witness, an informant, and a tape of Biden taking a bribe!"

- although we've not been able to find or talk to the "informant."

- Also, the tape may not actually exist.

- Also, Rudy Giuliani says the witness has died.

Guiliani Associate Lev Parnas debunks GOP ‘misinformation’
about the Bidens and Ukraine

'Wee Hand' & 'Big Hand'

"Dang!
If all our 'evidence' is this laughable,
we might have to admit that he's the President!"​

 

[Delldude]

This one has fizzled.

James Comer: “We have a witness, an informant, and a tape of Biden taking a bribe!"

Devon Archer to testify Biden listened in to some two dozen phone calls with Hunter.

I already posted a link to the tape of Biden talking to Poroshenko about getting rid of Shokin and Poroshenko says Shokin has done nothing wrong then tells Biden he fired him anyway.

 

[schmidlap]

Devon Archer to testify Biden listened in to some two dozen phone calls with Hunter.

I already posted a link to the tape of Biden talking to Poroshenko about getting rid of Shokin and Poroshenko says Shokin has done nothing wrong then tells Biden he fired him anyway.

The fatwa has fizzled.
When will Comer allow Parnas to testify?

There are two big problems with the narrative presented by Trump and Giuliani, according to activists in Ukraine and others.

... Ukrainian prosecutors and anti-corruption advocates who were pushing for an investigation into the dealings of Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevskiy, said the probe had been dormant long before Biden leveled his demand.​

​

"There was no pressure from anyone from the United States" to close the case against Zlochevskiy, Vitaliy Kasko, who was a deputy prosecutor-general under Shokin and is now first deputy prosecutor-general, told Bloomberg News in May. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015," he added.

Activists say the case had been sabotaged by Shokin himself. As an example, they say two months before Hunter Biden joined Burisma's board, British authorities had requested information from Shokin's office as part of an investigation into alleged money laundering by Zlochevskiy. Shokin ignored them.

Kaleniuk and AntAC published a detailed timeline of events surrounding the Burisma case, an outline of evidence suggesting that three consecutive chief prosecutors of Ukraine -- first Shokin’s predecessor, then Shokin, and then his successor -- worked to bury it.

"Ironically, Joe Biden asked Shokin to leave because the prosecutor failed [to pursue] the Burisma investigation, not because Shokin was tough and active with this case," Kaleniuk said.​

​

Ukrainian prosecutors have described no evidence indicating that Biden sought to help his son by getting Shokin dismissed -- and have suggested that they have not discovered any such evidence.​

​

But there is a long list of Western organizations, governments, and diplomats, as well as Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, that wanted to see Shokin fired.​

​

They include the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform.​

[Why Was Ukraine's Top Prosecutor Fired? The Issue At The Heart Of The Dispute Gripping Washington]​

​

 

[Lisa558]

The fatwa has fizzled.
When will Comer allow Parnas to testify?

There are two big problems with the narrative presented by Trump and Giuliani, according to activists in Ukraine and others.​

​

... Ukrainian prosecutors and anti-corruption advocates who were pushing for an investigation into the dealings of Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevskiy, said the probe had been dormant long before Biden leveled his demand.​

​

"There was no pressure from anyone from the United States" to close the case against Zlochevskiy, Vitaliy Kasko, who was a deputy prosecutor-general under Shokin and is now first deputy prosecutor-general, told Bloomberg News in May. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015," he added.​

​

Activists say the case had been sabotaged by Shokin himself. As an example, they say two months before Hunter Biden joined Burisma's board, British authorities had requested information from Shokin's office as part of an investigation into alleged money laundering by Zlochevskiy. Shokin ignored them.​

​

Kaleniuk and AntAC published a detailed timeline of events surrounding the Burisma case, an outline of evidence suggesting that three consecutive chief prosecutors of Ukraine -- first Shokin’s predecessor, then Shokin, and then his successor -- worked to bury it.​

​

"Ironically, Joe Biden asked Shokin to leave because the prosecutor failed [to pursue] the Burisma investigation, not because Shokin was tough and active with this case," Kaleniuk said.​

​

Ukrainian prosecutors have described no evidence indicating that Biden sought to help his son by getting Shokin dismissed -- and have suggested that they have not discovered any such evidence.​

​

But there is a long list of Western organizations, governments, and diplomats, as well as Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, that wanted to see Shokin fired.​

​

They include the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform.​

[Why Was Ukraine's Top Prosecutor Fired? The Issue At The Heart Of The Dispute Gripping Washington]​

​

The Biden Family set up 20 shell companies to disguise payments from foreign adversaries before the funds were distributed to nine family members.

1) Why the need for secrecy via shell companies?

2) What VALID service or product were The Biden’s selling while Joe was VP that garnered them $10 million or more?

3) Why won’t they come out and tell us, and put this matter to rest?

 

[Delldude]

The fatwa has fizzled.
When will Comer allow Parnas to testify?

There are two big problems with the narrative presented by Trump and Giuliani, according to activists in Ukraine and others.​

​

... Ukrainian prosecutors and anti-corruption advocates who were pushing for an investigation into the dealings of Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevskiy, said the probe had been dormant long before Biden leveled his demand.​

​

"There was no pressure from anyone from the United States" to close the case against Zlochevskiy, Vitaliy Kasko, who was a deputy prosecutor-general under Shokin and is now first deputy prosecutor-general, told Bloomberg News in May. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015," he added.​

​

Activists say the case had been sabotaged by Shokin himself. As an example, they say two months before Hunter Biden joined Burisma's board, British authorities had requested information from Shokin's office as part of an investigation into alleged money laundering by Zlochevskiy. Shokin ignored them.​

​

Kaleniuk and AntAC published a detailed timeline of events surrounding the Burisma case, an outline of evidence suggesting that three consecutive chief prosecutors of Ukraine -- first Shokin’s predecessor, then Shokin, and then his successor -- worked to bury it.​

​

"Ironically, Joe Biden asked Shokin to leave because the prosecutor failed [to pursue] the Burisma investigation, not because Shokin was tough and active with this case," Kaleniuk said.​

​

Ukrainian prosecutors have described no evidence indicating that Biden sought to help his son by getting Shokin dismissed -- and have suggested that they have not discovered any such evidence.​

​

But there is a long list of Western organizations, governments, and diplomats, as well as Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, that wanted to see Shokin fired.​

​

They include the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform.​

[Why Was Ukraine's Top Prosecutor Fired? The Issue At The Heart Of The Dispute Gripping Washington]​

​

Then there's that pesky little tape I mentioned.

 

[Delldude]

The Biden Family set up 20 shell companies to disguise payments from foreign adversaries before 5he funds were distributed to nine family members.

20 shell companies that haven't filed tax returns.....duh.

 

[Lisa558]

20 shell companies that haven't filed tax returns.....duh.

What’s your point? That they evaded paying taxes? We already know that.

 

[Skylar]

Then there's that pesky little tape I mentioned.

What tape?

Have y'all ever managed to demonstrate that the 'tapes' ever existed?