Big freaking ruh roh: Intel Chair pretty sure FBI had no warrant to record Flynn

[Dschrute3]

It is politics.

It sure is. The assholes who leaked the info were Obama lackeys. Hopefully, they'll be wearing orange jumpsuits at some point.

The jumpsuits are coming--but it clear it's not going to be intelligence agents--LOL

I imagine this one is up for some handcuffs

Trump-Russia 'exhaustive' investigation needed following Flynn resignation, says GOP Senate Intel Member - CNNPolitics.com
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

And we can't forget about this one.

Eric Holder and 100 other former Justice officials sign letter blasting Comey’s ‘breach of protocol’
DOJ Complaint Filed Against FBI Director James Comey For Interfering In Presidential Election
DOJ to Investigate James Comey and the FBI
Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy

We'll see. Such leaks are illegal. Some of Obama's lackeys might just be wearing those orange jumpsuits at some point.

Leaks have happened through out history. Trump and his supporters have made a lot of Republican Enemies on the hill. They're not going to come running in to save his ass. In fact the only ones left that are still supporting him, are the same physco babble interpreters that have been with him through out this campaign.

Again, you have given more than half this nation someone they can actually hate, Trump, and it's showing up everywhere. Including in Republican Town Hall meetings across this nation, and even conservative states and districts. Senate Republicans & House members are watching all of this, and are in fact already being warned what the 'Welcome Home Party" is looking like. They are going to have to be the forefront in this to save the party, and if it means impeaching the Ass Clown that is exactly what they're going to do.
Republican town halls are getting very, very nasty

Good.. You guys can fuck up your health hating all you want for 4 or 8 years. I'm no fan of Trump either naturally. MY CONCERN is for the welfare of my country. And opening the Pandora's Box of secret sludge that the Intel Community has stored up to dominate Congress and Admins to get their way -- with an EMBEDDED partisan rebel force --- is a VERY DANGEROUS idea. And the geniuses that organized that operation need to spend the rest of their lives in prison for playing with a near apocalypse.

Yeah, very dangerous stuff. It's not about whether you like Trump or not. This goes much much deeper than that.

 

[Faun]

But not in office yet. There is only one president at a time. But fear not, no one will be charged with violating the Logan act... no one ever is.

Piss off. They were the official transition team and just as every other transition team forever were making contacts with global leaders and businesses.

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

First -- I suppose -- you have to show where ANYONE has been successfully prosecuted under that act..

Irrelevant since that too is not required to make it prosecutable. That said, I personally haven't seen anything yet that I believe is in violation of that act. However, Trump is making a yuge mistake by going to war with the press. Nixon tried that and it failed him miserably. The press will dig harder and deeper for dirt on him every time he refers to them as "fake news."

 

[oreo]

Stop with the freaking Logan Act. It only applies to unauthorized individuals. And last time I looked Trump and his team were elected.

But not in office yet. There is only one president at a time. But fear not, no one will be charged with violating the Logan act... no one ever is.

Piss off. They were the official transition team and just as every other transition team forever were making contacts with global leaders and businesses.

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

It's pretty clear that there are a lot of Reich wingers on this board that have some serious READING comprehension issues.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
Logan Act - Wikipedia

General Flynn (was a private citizen) the day after Obama threw out all Russian diplomats. He was not a part of the Obama administration, nor had the Comrade been sworn into office. Obama did not authorize Flynn to call the Russian ambassador on his behalf. General Flynn is in violation of the Logan Act--PERIOD

If he lied to the FBI when questioned about this there will most certainly be criminal charges.

"Ahead of President Donald Trump's inauguration, Flynn spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia stemming from the country's suspected interference in the presidential election, ABC News has confirmed.

Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain. (note: he must have been talking to the Russians quite frequently if he didn't know what he called them for.-LOL Probably had them on speed dial.)

In January, Pence -- relying on information gleaned directly from Flynn, according to a senior administration official -- said during an interview with CBS: "They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flyn...ussia-call-official/story?id=45467886[/QUOTE]
Flynn apologized to Pence for misleading him about Russia call: official

Well I guess Flynn will recall the discussion when they play the taped recording back--LOL

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What happened here is what happens in police states.

Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.

"In the past it was considered scandalous for senior U.S. officials to even request the identities of U.S. officials incidentally monitored by the government (normally they are redacted from intelligence reports).

John Bolton's nomination to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations was derailed in 2006 after the NSA confirmed he had made 10 such requests when he was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control in George W. Bush's first term.

The fact that the intercepts of Flynn's conversations with Kislyak appear to have been widely distributed inside the government is a red flag.

Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told me Monday that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with Kislyak as part of a pattern.

"There does appear to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," he said.

"From the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level FISA Court information, to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances, it looks like a pattern."

Get the fucking bastards!

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

So you're saying that Flynn didn't try to undermine U.S. sanctions against Russia?

He didn't. He never mentioned sanctions.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why did democrats demand an investigation when they must have known that the path was going to lead right back to the obama justice department.

DOJ also target of President Trump's call for investigations into leaks

 

[flacaltenn]

Piss off. They were the official transition team and just as every other transition team forever were making contacts with global leaders and businesses.

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

First -- I suppose -- you have to show where ANYONE has been successfully prosecuted under that act..

Irrelevant since that too is not required to make it prosecutable. That said, I personally haven't seen anything yet that I believe is in violation of that act. However, Trump is making a yuge mistake by going to war with the press. Nixon tried that and it failed him miserably. The press will dig harder and deeper for dirt on him every time he refers to them as "fake news."

The press can continue to whack off and flog themselves as usual. But if the very core of Intel Comm is being infiltrated by partisans -- this ain't gonna end well.

Ain't hard to beat up the press --- is it? Should have had Yoda teaching Journalism instead of whatever they got to be "qualified" as journalists.

 

[oreo]

What happened here is what happens in police states.

Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.

"In the past it was considered scandalous for senior U.S. officials to even request the identities of U.S. officials incidentally monitored by the government (normally they are redacted from intelligence reports).

John Bolton's nomination to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations was derailed in 2006 after the NSA confirmed he had made 10 such requests when he was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control in George W. Bush's first term.

The fact that the intercepts of Flynn's conversations with Kislyak appear to have been widely distributed inside the government is a red flag.

Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told me Monday that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with Kislyak as part of a pattern.

"There does appear to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," he said.

"From the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level FISA Court information, to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances, it looks like a pattern."

Get the fucking bastards!

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

So you're saying that Flynn didn't try to undermine U.S. sanctions against Russia?

He didn't. He never mentioned sanctions.

At FIRST Flynn denied he had spoken about Sanctions, that's what threw Pence under the bus during the weekend interview because Pence repeated that on National T.V. The very next day up pops the audio recording--Flynn had to apologize to Pence for throwing him under the bus (basically making him look like a fool on National T.V.) and then he resigned the very next day for misleading Mike Pence.

Then this comes out:
Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain." Now either Flynn had the Russians on speed dial, and talked to them sooooo much that he can't remember a single conversation, or he's lying through his teeth, take your pick.

Right now we have Republican Senators in a total uproar over this demanding thorough investigations using subpoenas and everything else. So I am certain that Flynn's phone call to the Russian ambassador the day after Obama booted out all Russians, wasn't just a howdy doody call what's your weather like today--LOL
McConnell: Flynn investigation 'highly likely' in Senate committee - CNNPolitics.com
Senate Committee May Use Subpoenas in Russian Hacking Investigation

To add insult to injury they have the phone records of other Trump campaign aids that were also in contact with the Russians during the CAMPAIGN SEASON.
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

Knowing that Russians don't vote or are able to make campaign contributions, it's not to hard to follow those dots to collusion with a Foreign Adversary to do a Cyber Attack on the United States to help the Comrade win the election.

Collusion with a Foreign adversary to do a Cyber attack on the United States is considered TREASON.

You Reich wingers really couldn't have found a worse candidate than Donald Trump, if you had gone out on a midnight scavenger hunt in search of one.

 

[tinydancer]

But not in office yet. There is only one president at a time. But fear not, no one will be charged with violating the Logan act... no one ever is.

Piss off. They were the official transition team and just as every other transition team forever were making contacts with global leaders and businesses.

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

It's pretty clear that there are a lot of Reich wingers on this board that have some serious READING comprehension issues.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
Logan Act - Wikipedia

General Flynn (was a private citizen) the day after Obama threw out all Russian diplomats. He was not a part of the Obama administration, nor had the Comrade been sworn into office. Obama did not authorize Flynn to call the Russian ambassador on his behalf. General Flynn is in violation of the Logan Act--PERIOD

If he lied to the FBI when questioned about this there will most certainly be criminal charges.

"Ahead of President Donald Trump's inauguration, Flynn spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia stemming from the country's suspected interference in the presidential election, ABC News has confirmed.

Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain. (note: he must have been talking to the Russians quite frequently if he didn't know what he called them for.-LOL Probably had them on speed dial.)

In January, Pence -- relying on information gleaned directly from Flynn, according to a senior administration official -- said during an interview with CBS: "They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flyn...ussia-call-official/story?id=45467886[/QUOTE]
Flynn apologized to Pence for misleading him about Russia call: official

Well I guess Flynn will recall the discussion when they play the taped recording back--LOL

Bloody fool he was part of the transition team and therefore authorized to begin performing his duties as the future National Security Advisor. That would include contacting his global counterparts and other individuals.

They don't sit around picking their noses until the Inauguration. Idiot. This is just part of what the transition team is faced with.

"This phase of the process lasts between 72 to 78 days, ending on the inauguration day. During this time, the transition team must handle the influx of campaign staff and additional personnel into daily operations and prepare to take over the functions of government.

Key activities in this phase include staffing the office of the president-elect; deploying agency review teams; building out the president-elect’s management and policy agendas and schedule; and identifying the key talent necessary to execute the new president’s priorities".

United States presidential transition - Wikipedia

 

[tinydancer]

What happened here is what happens in police states.

Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.

"In the past it was considered scandalous for senior U.S. officials to even request the identities of U.S. officials incidentally monitored by the government (normally they are redacted from intelligence reports).

John Bolton's nomination to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations was derailed in 2006 after the NSA confirmed he had made 10 such requests when he was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control in George W. Bush's first term.

The fact that the intercepts of Flynn's conversations with Kislyak appear to have been widely distributed inside the government is a red flag.

Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told me Monday that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with Kislyak as part of a pattern.

"There does appear to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," he said.

"From the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level FISA Court information, to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances, it looks like a pattern."

Get the fucking bastards!

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

So you're saying that Flynn didn't try to undermine U.S. sanctions against Russia?

He didn't. He never mentioned sanctions.

At FIRST Flynn denied he had spoken about Sanctions, that's what threw Pence under the bus during the weekend interview because Pence repeated that on National T.V. The very next day up pops the audio recording--Flynn had to apologize to Pence for throwing him under the bus (basically making him look like a fool on National T.V.) and then he resigned the very next day for misleading Mike Pence.

Then this comes out:
Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain." Now either Flynn had the Russians on speed dial, and talked to them sooooo much that he can't remember a single conversation, or he's lying through his teeth, take your pick.

Right now we have Republican Senators in a total uproar over this demanding thorough investigations using subpoenas and everything else. So I am certain that Flynn's phone call to the Russian ambassador the day after Obama booted out all Russians, wasn't just a howdy doody call what's your weather like today--LOL
McConnell: Flynn investigation 'highly likely' in Senate committee - CNNPolitics.com
Senate Committee May Use Subpoenas in Russian Hacking Investigation

To add insult to injury they have the phone records of other Trump campaign aids that were also in contact with the Russians during the CAMPAIGN SEASON.
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

Knowing that Russians don't vote or are able to make campaign contributions, it's not to hard to follow those dots to collusion with a Foreign Adversary to do a Cyber Attack on the United States to help the Comrade win the election.

Collusion with a Foreign adversary to do a Cyber attack on the United States is considered TREASON.

You Reich wingers really couldn't have found a worse candidate than Donald Trump, if you had gone out on a midnight scavenger hunt in search of one.

You're still running with the bullshit article about the aides and Russian intel? Even though I and others have shredded you on this? That the key part of the article from the NYT is that no evidence of collusion was found?

Do you ever stop lying?

 

[oreo]

Piss off. They were the official transition team and just as every other transition team forever were making contacts with global leaders and businesses.

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

It's pretty clear that there are a lot of Reich wingers on this board that have some serious READING comprehension issues.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
Logan Act - Wikipedia

General Flynn (was a private citizen) the day after Obama threw out all Russian diplomats. He was not a part of the Obama administration, nor had the Comrade been sworn into office. Obama did not authorize Flynn to call the Russian ambassador on his behalf. General Flynn is in violation of the Logan Act--PERIOD

If he lied to the FBI when questioned about this there will most certainly be criminal charges.

"Ahead of President Donald Trump's inauguration, Flynn spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia stemming from the country's suspected interference in the presidential election, ABC News has confirmed.

Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain. (note: he must have been talking to the Russians quite frequently if he didn't know what he called them for.-LOL Probably had them on speed dial.)

In January, Pence -- relying on information gleaned directly from Flynn, according to a senior administration official -- said during an interview with CBS: "They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flyn...ussia-call-official/story?id=45467886[/QUOTE]
Flynn apologized to Pence for misleading him about Russia call: official

Well I guess Flynn will recall the discussion when they play the taped recording back--LOL

Bloody fool he was part of the transition team and therefore authorized to begin performing his duties as National Security Advisor.

They don't sit around picking their noses until the Inauguration. Idiot. This is just part of what the transition team is faced with.

"This phase of the process lasts between 72 to 78 days, ending on the inauguration day. During this time, the transition team must handle the influx of campaign staff and additional personnel into daily operations and prepare to take over the functions of government.

Key activities in this phase include staffing the office of the president-elect; deploying agency review teams; building out the president-elect’s management and policy agendas and schedule; and identifying the key talent necessary to execute the new president’s priorities".

United States presidential transition - Wikipedia

Sweet Baby Jesus--Transition teams are there to find out what is going on so they can take over smoothly. They talk to the current Secretary of State, they talk to the current Attorney General, they talk and get briefed by intelligence officials and the joint chiefs of staff, they talk to the current President, they talk to the current Vice President, & other department heads, etc. etc. etc.

They don't go fucking rogue and call Foreign adversary's--DUMBASS.

 

[Care4all]

But not in office yet. There is only one president at a time. But fear not, no one will be charged with violating the Logan act... no one ever is.

Piss off. They were the official transition team and just as every other transition team forever were making contacts with global leaders and businesses.

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

It's pretty clear that there are a lot of Reich wingers on this board that have some serious READING comprehension issues.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
Logan Act - Wikipedia

General Flynn (was a private citizen) the day after Obama threw out all Russian diplomats. He was not a part of the Obama administration, nor had the Comrade been sworn into office. Obama did not authorize Flynn to call the Russian ambassador on his behalf. General Flynn is in violation of the Logan Act--PERIOD

If he lied to the FBI when questioned about this there will most certainly be criminal charges.

"Ahead of President Donald Trump's inauguration, Flynn spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia stemming from the country's suspected interference in the presidential election, ABC News has confirmed.

Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain. (note: he must have been talking to the Russians quite frequently if he didn't know what he called them for.-LOL Probably had them on speed dial.)

In January, Pence -- relying on information gleaned directly from Flynn, according to a senior administration official -- said during an interview with CBS: "They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flyn...ussia-call-official/story?id=45467886[/QUOTE]
Flynn apologized to Pence for misleading him about Russia call: official

Well I guess Flynn will recall the discussion when they play the taped recording back--LOL

Well, the leakers did say Flynn lied to the FBI as well as Pence. And yes he did break the law by lying to the FBI, but I heard on the 24/7 news-commentary shows tonight, that Jeff Sessions, decided he would not prosecute....for either of these offenses...

I'm fine with that....he served his Nation well for a lot of years, but has some how, fallen from his good ways at one time, to his demented conspiratorial state that he's in now, with Putin as a hero to him....

I am glad he is gone, he was in a job, that was WAY OVER his head and proved himself to be a liar and untrustworthy. He has been punished greatly for his bad deeds though, in the court of public opinion.

I DO WANT to get to the bottom of all of the Trump campaign Russian/Crimea/Ukraine/Putin connections and the CONSTANT contact with Russian intelligence operatives that our intel agencies were following...and Roger Stone, his first campaign manager's connection to the stolen emails and their release on to wikileaks....

I do want to know if the Dossier is true... the FBI has been investigating it for a while now...I heard they have confirm many of the Dossier's information as fact as far as key people meeting on the key dates the MI6 guy said in his diary/dossier, outside of the golden showers thingy, which ''they say'' they have not checked it out....

 

[oreo]

Piss off. They were the official transition team and just as every other transition team forever were making contacts with global leaders and businesses.

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

It's pretty clear that there are a lot of Reich wingers on this board that have some serious READING comprehension issues.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
Logan Act - Wikipedia

General Flynn (was a private citizen) the day after Obama threw out all Russian diplomats. He was not a part of the Obama administration, nor had the Comrade been sworn into office. Obama did not authorize Flynn to call the Russian ambassador on his behalf. General Flynn is in violation of the Logan Act--PERIOD

If he lied to the FBI when questioned about this there will most certainly be criminal charges.

"Ahead of President Donald Trump's inauguration, Flynn spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia stemming from the country's suspected interference in the presidential election, ABC News has confirmed.

Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain. (note: he must have been talking to the Russians quite frequently if he didn't know what he called them for.-LOL Probably had them on speed dial.)

In January, Pence -- relying on information gleaned directly from Flynn, according to a senior administration official -- said during an interview with CBS: "They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flyn...ussia-call-official/story?id=45467886[/QUOTE]
Flynn apologized to Pence for misleading him about Russia call: official

Well I guess Flynn will recall the discussion when they play the taped recording back--LOL

Well, the leakers did say Flynn lied to the FBI as well as Pence. And yes he did break the law by lying to the FBI, but I heard on the 24/7 news-commentary shows tonight, that Jeff Sessions, decided he would not prosecute....for either of these offenses...

I'm fine with that....he served his Nation well for a lot of years, but has some how, fallen from his good ways at one time, to his demented conspiratorial state that he's in now, with Putin as a hero to him....

I am glad he is gone, he was in a job, that was WAY OVER his head and proved himself to be a liar and untrustworthy. He has been punished greatly for his bad deeds though, in the court of public opinion.

I DO WANT to get to the bottom of all of the Trump campaign Russian/Crimea/Ukraine/Putin connections and the CONSTANT contact with Russian intelligence operatives that our intel agencies were following...and Roger Stone, his first campaign manager's connection to the stolen emails and their release on to wikileaks....

I do want to know if the Dossier is true... the FBI has been investigating it for a while now...I heard they have confirm many of the Dossier's information as fact as far as key people meeting on the key dates the MI6 guy said in his diary/dossier, outside of the golden showers thingy, which ''they say'' they have not checked it out....

I am not so certain that Jeff Sessions has the authority to make that decision. I would think this would come down from the DOJ Department of Justice who is in charge of the FBI. Keep in mind that Flynn was not part of the administration when he did this, so he was under no umbrella of protection.

If Jeff Sessions tries to intervene in this it's only going to make very bad--go to much much worse. Headline news everywhere. Obstruction of justice, etc. etc. etc. Making it much worse for the Comrade and his administration.

 

[Care4all]

Five calls to the Russian ambassador on the very same day as the president announced new sanctions and expelled diplomats.

Looks more like damage control and reassurance rather than standard transition contacts.

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

It's pretty clear that there are a lot of Reich wingers on this board that have some serious READING comprehension issues.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
Logan Act - Wikipedia

General Flynn (was a private citizen) the day after Obama threw out all Russian diplomats. He was not a part of the Obama administration, nor had the Comrade been sworn into office. Obama did not authorize Flynn to call the Russian ambassador on his behalf. General Flynn is in violation of the Logan Act--PERIOD

If he lied to the FBI when questioned about this there will most certainly be criminal charges.

"Ahead of President Donald Trump's inauguration, Flynn spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia stemming from the country's suspected interference in the presidential election, ABC News has confirmed.

Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain. (note: he must have been talking to the Russians quite frequently if he didn't know what he called them for.-LOL Probably had them on speed dial.)

In January, Pence -- relying on information gleaned directly from Flynn, according to a senior administration official -- said during an interview with CBS: "They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flyn...ussia-call-official/story?id=45467886[/QUOTE]
Flynn apologized to Pence for misleading him about Russia call: official

Well I guess Flynn will recall the discussion when they play the taped recording back--LOL

Well, the leakers did say Flynn lied to the FBI as well as Pence. And yes he did break the law by lying to the FBI, but I heard on the 24/7 news-commentary shows tonight, that Jeff Sessions, decided he would not prosecute....for either of these offenses...

I'm fine with that....he served his Nation well for a lot of years, but has some how, fallen from his good ways at one time, to his demented conspiratorial state that he's in now, with Putin as a hero to him....

I am glad he is gone, he was in a job, that was WAY OVER his head and proved himself to be a liar and untrustworthy. He has been punished greatly for his bad deeds though, in the court of public opinion.

I DO WANT to get to the bottom of all of the Trump campaign Russian/Crimea/Ukraine/Putin connections and the CONSTANT contact with Russian intelligence operatives that our intel agencies were following...and Roger Stone, his first campaign manager's connection to the stolen emails and their release on to wikileaks....

I do want to know if the Dossier is true... the FBI has been investigating it for a while now...I heard they have confirm many of the Dossier's information as fact as far as key people meeting on the key dates the MI6 guy said in his diary/dossier, outside of the golden showers thingy, which ''they say'' they have not checked it out....

I am not so certain that Jeff Sessions has the authority to make that decision. I would think this would come down from the DOJ Department of Justice who is in charge of the FBI. Keep in mind that Flynn was not part of the administration when he did this, so he was under no umbrella of protection.

If Jeff Sessions tries to intervene in this it's only going to make very bad--go to much much worse. Headline news everywhere. Obstruction of justice, etc. etc. etc. Making it much worse for the Comrade and his administration.

oreo, Sessions is now the Attorney General, he heads up the dept of justice now and is over the Fbi.... by law, he is suppose to recuse himself from all of this with his very close connection to flynn, but I heard he said he was not going to recuse himself...

 

[oreo]

I want to know which of you libs are going to man up and tell us what the harm was in telling the Russians not to retaliate because Obozo's policy was not going to carried over into the new administration.

First, show where the Logan act requires harm against the country to make it prosecutable...

It's pretty clear that there are a lot of Reich wingers on this board that have some serious READING comprehension issues.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
Logan Act - Wikipedia

General Flynn (was a private citizen) the day after Obama threw out all Russian diplomats. He was not a part of the Obama administration, nor had the Comrade been sworn into office. Obama did not authorize Flynn to call the Russian ambassador on his behalf. General Flynn is in violation of the Logan Act--PERIOD

If he lied to the FBI when questioned about this there will most certainly be criminal charges.

"Ahead of President Donald Trump's inauguration, Flynn spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia stemming from the country's suspected interference in the presidential election, ABC News has confirmed.

Flynn has denied that he spoke about the sanctions during his dialogue with the ambassador, but a senior administration official appeared to back off that denial late last week, saying Flynn doesn't recall discussing the sanctions but "isn't completely certain. (note: he must have been talking to the Russians quite frequently if he didn't know what he called them for.-LOL Probably had them on speed dial.)

In January, Pence -- relying on information gleaned directly from Flynn, according to a senior administration official -- said during an interview with CBS: "They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flyn...ussia-call-official/story?id=45467886[/QUOTE]
Flynn apologized to Pence for misleading him about Russia call: official

Well I guess Flynn will recall the discussion when they play the taped recording back--LOL

Well, the leakers did say Flynn lied to the FBI as well as Pence. And yes he did break the law by lying to the FBI, but I heard on the 24/7 news-commentary shows tonight, that Jeff Sessions, decided he would not prosecute....for either of these offenses...

I'm fine with that....he served his Nation well for a lot of years, but has some how, fallen from his good ways at one time, to his demented conspiratorial state that he's in now, with Putin as a hero to him....

I am glad he is gone, he was in a job, that was WAY OVER his head and proved himself to be a liar and untrustworthy. He has been punished greatly for his bad deeds though, in the court of public opinion.

I DO WANT to get to the bottom of all of the Trump campaign Russian/Crimea/Ukraine/Putin connections and the CONSTANT contact with Russian intelligence operatives that our intel agencies were following...and Roger Stone, his first campaign manager's connection to the stolen emails and their release on to wikileaks....

I do want to know if the Dossier is true... the FBI has been investigating it for a while now...I heard they have confirm many of the Dossier's information as fact as far as key people meeting on the key dates the MI6 guy said in his diary/dossier, outside of the golden showers thingy, which ''they say'' they have not checked it out....

I am not so certain that Jeff Sessions has the authority to make that decision. I would think this would come down from the DOJ Department of Justice who is in charge of the FBI. Keep in mind that Flynn was not part of the administration when he did this, so he was under no umbrella of protection.

If Jeff Sessions tries to intervene in this it's only going to make very bad--go to much much worse. Headline news everywhere. Obstruction of justice, etc. etc. etc. Making it much worse for the Comrade and his administration.

oreo, Sessions is now the Attorney General, he heads up the dept of justice now and is over the Fbi.... by law, he is suppose to recuse himself from all of this with his very close connection to flynn, but I heard he said he was not going to recuse himself...

Flynn was not under any umbrella of protection from any administration when he did this. If Sessions tries to intervene into this matter, all holy hell is going to break lose. You know it, I know it.

 

[P@triot]

Flynn was not under any umbrella of protection from any administration when he did this. If Sessions tries to intervene into this matter, all holy hell is going to break lose. You know it, I know it.

I believe those were your exact same words when you predicted a "landslide win" by Hitlery Clinton.

 

[tinydancer]

Oh I love it. And please note left wing whackos the plural is used. You fools keep using a singular from the Dec. 29th call.

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Conservative foundation Judicial Watch is planning to sue several government agencies if they do not hand over records related to the wiretapping of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.
The group filed Freedom of Information Act requests for the records weeks ago but are planning to sue by next week for the records if they do not receive anything by then.
Judicial Watch filed the requests with the FBI, NSA, CIA, and Treasury Department, according to the group’s Director of Investigations and Research Chris Farrell.
The group is aiming to find out whether there was ever a warrant allowing the U.S. government to wiretap Flynn’s phone calls, and if so, who requested it and why.

Judicial Watch Planning to Sue FBI, NSA, CIA for Flynn Records

 

[tinydancer]

But wait. There's more. The FBI aren't going to file any charges against Flynn.

 

[danielpalos]

just politics as usual and covered under our First Amendment.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There are leaks because intelligence officials knew Trump and his people were not being truthful about the nature of their relationships with Russian officials.

So they decided to break the law themselves and give away methods of how that intelligence was gathered. That's criminal stupidity. They must be liberals.

Or patriots willing to take that bullet for their country.

No, because they are liberals, meaning they cannot be patriots. They are mutually exclusive.

Dope.

You really should lay off the drugs.

You're the one playing dumb. You trolling types might think you're being funny but you're really just making yourself look really foolish. Not unlike Trump who feels he has to lie about EC results and you types cheer for giving the press grief. In reality he made himself look worse than anything he did to the press.
Winning!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What happened here is what happens in police states.

Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.

"In the past it was considered scandalous for senior U.S. officials to even request the identities of U.S. officials incidentally monitored by the government (normally they are redacted from intelligence reports).

John Bolton's nomination to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations was derailed in 2006 after the NSA confirmed he had made 10 such requests when he was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control in George W. Bush's first term.

The fact that the intercepts of Flynn's conversations with Kislyak appear to have been widely distributed inside the government is a red flag.

Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told me Monday that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with Kislyak as part of a pattern.

"There does appear to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," he said.

"From the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level FISA Court information, to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances, it looks like a pattern."

Get the fucking bastards!

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

So you're saying that Flynn didn't try to undermine U.S. sanctions against Russia?

He didn't. He never mentioned sanctions.

So, he was fired for what then?