Mr. Shaman
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Clinton was blowing his own horn as much as stumping for Obama.
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Clinton was blowing his own horn as much as stumping for Obama.
I wonder who is the father of the blond?I was furious that the republicans were crucifying Clinton for getting a BJ. But when I thought about WHERE he did it, as in the Oval Office, and the sanctity of it being violated in such a way, it canceled my feelings out.".I left the Republican Party because of all of their lies and idiocy. No, I don't want more tax cuts, nor do I want more deregulation. Those are things that got us into trouble, and now the Republicons want to double down on those policies. No fucking thank you.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGit_tZDqs]Generation Chickenhawk: With The College Republicans - YouTube[/ame]
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Where's the Chickenhawk?
(You've got a half-second to find "him".)
It was an amazing historical speech by the best communicator I have known. I think Clinton is the only person that has outer body type abilities, where he looks at himself from the mind's eye, and goes off script and improvises his speech based on what he sees. I don't think there will ever be another person like him in public office. Unfortunately for Obama non of it applied to what has happened during his presidency. I thought Paul Ryan's speech was the only one that came to a close second to Clinton's. Obama? Forget it, it's a lot of hype, he doesn't even hold a candle.Clinton was blowing his own horn as much as stumping for Obama. The rhetoric about 'we're all in this together and sharing responsibilities' is a pretty way of saying that the workers will do even more to take care of the idle. It's socialism and that has never worked and never will. Obama can only promise more to the government dependents and doesn't seem to care about the middle class, the people he claims now to want to protect. He stated nearly a year ago that he wasn't even addressing middle class. We never made his priority list. He's too busy increasing entitlements and encouraging more illegal aliens to sneak in.
Clinton also claimed that kids are dropping out of college because they can't pay their loans. I guess he forgot that you don't pay the loans back until 6 months after you're out of college. If you don't want to start paying them, stay in school and ensure you'll qualify for a good job when you're done.
Obama is hoping that all of Clinton's popularity will spill over onto him. He can keep wishing. Nary a word about the high unemployment or the fact that things have continued to get worse. We came out of the Great Depression quicker than this. While Clinton was full of insincere praise of Obama tonight, it's all the exact opposite of what he said a few years ago. He was right back then, but now I think he's trying to pave the way for Hillary to run in 2016. That means hiding his disgust and staying loyal to party lines. He's a good talker. Of course, in the past he lied and sounded soooo convincing. This seems like another example of his gifted silver tongue.
Ryan's speech was much better than Clinton's bull
"....to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryans speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold."
To say that the crash of 2008 happened because of Bush is being dishonest.Ryan is a good speaker but his speech was full of lies. But considering his base, that shouldn't be a problem for him. Anyway, getting back to the economy, Republicans had eight years to screw things up.. Can't expect Obama to fix it in less than four. Oh, by the way, socialism does work. Social Security and Medicare are social programs. They've worked so good for decades, try taking them away from Republican rednecks and hillbillies. (Same with socialist food stamps) That's why lyin paul ryan and romney can't come right out and say they want to end those programs, just make them "leaner" with vouchers.
Ryan's speech was much better than Clinton's bull
January 13, 2008
"The recession-deniers were muzzled by a horrendous last two weeks of December, and the gloom-and-doomers are now out in force. Their key arguments:
* Plummeting housing will now drag down the rest of the economy.
*The "bad debt" problem is not just "sub-prime" folks who should never have have taken out mortgages in the first place. It includes credit card debt, "high quality" mortgages, car loans, and other leverage that have recently become a consumer way of life.
*Pressure on consumers is leading to a reduction in consumer spending (70% of economy), which, in turn, will lead to a reduction in spending by companies that sell stuff to consumers.
*The question now is not "will there be a recession?" but "how bad will it get?"
*The most optimistic forecasts in a NYT gloom-and-doom round-up are for three crappy quarters, regardless of what the Fed does. Less optimistic forecasts suggest that we are, well, screwed.
After blowing the last downturn, we've been worried this one since last summer (see below). We also suspect that, given the importance of housing to the economy and debt to consumer spending, the recession will be deeper and more prolonged than people think."
Really? Obama has been a copy of Carter's foreign policy disaster, and possibly even worse. Have you observed the results of the Arab Spring?Oh, another bash Obama thread...expect more of them folks as the election gets closer.
Oh, and Roudy - FYI, your foreign policy is fantastic compared to the one you had under Dumbya. Trust me, I'm a foreigner. Nobody liked Bush, or the US, that much under him.
To say that the crash of 2008 happened because of Bush is being dishonest. There were many Democrat players who were more guilty. Obama just happened to be at the right place at the right time. I doubt he will get lucky again but who knows.
Got news for you...............the brainless monkey known as Jr. was in charge of the country in 2008.
Hey Biker babe. You gonna tell me that the Dems had absolutely nothing to do with the meltdown??
I'm here to remind people what a scum bag Clinton is
The WORSHIPPING of a politician by the left give me the creeps, it's almost Jim Jones like..
damn
So.................question......................how do you explain the right's worship of Reagan?
I'm here to remind people what a scum bag Clinton is
Clinton handed you & your pathetic party a boot up your ass & you can't stand it .
Tell the truth .
What's wrong? You don't know what's wrong and you claim to be a foreigner? He's basically followed Carter's blueprint but worse. Obama has pushed out all of our allies out of power, to be replaced by Islamic regimes. The regimes THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED he didn't touch. Is an Egypt ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood the "secular" and "open" and "democratic Egypt that Obama promised while he virtually PUSHED Mubarek out? All the while he thumbs his nose while Iran persecutes and tortures it's people, and Syria has massacred over 26,000? What a great HUMANITARIAN president Obama is.Really? Obama has been a copy of Carter's foreign policy disaster, and possibly even worse. Have you observed the results of the Arab Spring?Oh, another bash Obama thread...expect more of them folks as the election gets closer.
Oh, and Roudy - FYI, your foreign policy is fantastic compared to the one you had under Dumbya. Trust me, I'm a foreigner. Nobody liked Bush, or the US, that much under him.
What is wrong with the arab spring?
At the end of the day, it's none of your business.
Yeah well, you forgot to say that's after the first two years of the president trying to ram his leftist agenda down the throats of the American people, without giving a damn about the economy, the American people's thoughts, and the republicans. Of course he's going to want to work with more cooperative president.He actually didn't do much other than prove that he's a party loyalist, and make it easier for the Romney campaign to discredit Obama even more by showing that Obama is not Clinton in more ways than one. They'll just play a clip of what Clinton said about Obama during Hillary's speech..."
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc]Mitch McConnell: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President - YouTube[/ame]
I'm here to remind people what a scum bag Clinton is
Luckily no one cares what you think
More RW revisionist history I see.Bill is still a great speaker, and regardless of the content of his speech, I think it will help Romney because tomorrow night voters will be thinking, "I know Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is a friend of mine, and Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton." By comparison, Barack Obama will look like a poor second choice, and rather than increase enthusiasm for Obama, it should diminish it. If you watched Michelle Obama's face during Clinton's speech, it was clear she understood this. In addition, the passion with which Clinton went after Romney made Romney appear more formidable and should inspire undecided voters to take a harder, more respectful look at Romney.
I agree that the Republicans shouldn't have impeached him for a BJ. Of course a married man is going to LIE about having sex with another woman, what do you expect?! But when you consider that he was doing it IN THE OVAL OFFICE you realize it takes a special kind of coldblooded immoral disrespectful lowlife asshole. It's the kind of person you could never trust. In the end his shortcomings caused the Democrats to loose the Whitehouse in 2000, in an otherwise near-perfect presidency.More RW revisionist history I see.Bill is still a great speaker, and regardless of the content of his speech, I think it will help Romney because tomorrow night voters will be thinking, "I know Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is a friend of mine, and Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton." By comparison, Barack Obama will look like a poor second choice, and rather than increase enthusiasm for Obama, it should diminish it. If you watched Michelle Obama's face during Clinton's speech, it was clear she understood this. In addition, the passion with which Clinton went after Romney made Romney appear more formidable and should inspire undecided voters to take a harder, more respectful look at Romney.
At no time, whatsoever, in Clinton's Presidential history were Republicans considering themselves a friend to Bill. In fact, they were CONSTANTLY on the attack. They attacked, and attacked, and attacked and attacked so much and went so far with it that they impeached him for a BJ.
Cut your BS dude...nobody's buying your RW swill.
What's wrong? You don't know what's wrong and you claim to be a foreigner? He's basically followed Carter's blueprint but worse. Obama has pushed out all of our allies out of power, to be replaced by Islamic regimes. The regimes THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED he didn't touch. Is an Egypt ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood the "secular" and "open" and "democratic Egypt that Obama promised while he virtually PUSHED Mubarek out? All the while he thumbs his nose while Iran persecutes and tortures it's people, and Syria has massacred over 26,000? What a great HUMANITARIAN president Obama is.Really? Obama has been a copy of Carter's foreign policy disaster, and possibly even worse. Have you observed the results of the Arab Spring?
What is wrong with the arab spring?
At the end of the day, it's none of your business.
This president has been a disaster, on ALL FRONTS.
Democrat speeches are all emotion and no substance, that trend continues at this year's DNC, ho hum.......
You clearly didn't watch the speech. If you had, you'd realize how stupid your comment is.
I agree that the Republicans shouldn't have impeached him for a BJ. Of course a married man is going to LIE about having sex with another woman, what do you expect?! But when you consider that he was doing it IN THE OVAL OFFICE you realize it takes a special kind of coldblooded immoral disrespectful lowlife asshole. It's the kind of person you could never trust. In the end his shortcomings caused the Democrats to loose the Whitehouse in 2000, in an otherwise near-perfect presidency.More RW revisionist history I see.Bill is still a great speaker, and regardless of the content of his speech, I think it will help Romney because tomorrow night voters will be thinking, "I know Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is a friend of mine, and Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton." By comparison, Barack Obama will look like a poor second choice, and rather than increase enthusiasm for Obama, it should diminish it. If you watched Michelle Obama's face during Clinton's speech, it was clear she understood this. In addition, the passion with which Clinton went after Romney made Romney appear more formidable and should inspire undecided voters to take a harder, more respectful look at Romney.
At no time, whatsoever, in Clinton's Presidential history were Republicans considering themselves a friend to Bill. In fact, they were CONSTANTLY on the attack. They attacked, and attacked, and attacked and attacked so much and went so far with it that they impeached him for a BJ.
Cut your BS dude...nobody's buying your RW swill.
My cousin died on Pan Am flight 103. They found his body still in his chair hanging from some branches on a tree in Scotland. It was Ghadafi (and Iran) that were behind the bombing. So I would be the last person to preach against his removal. In fact I celebrated when they shoved a baton up his butt before they executed the animal. But Ghadafi and Mubarek were far better and different than Hussien, Assad, and Iran's Nazis. Ghadafi had given up building nuclear weapons, and had become friendly with the West. Libya was taken off the US terrorist country list. That would be the truth.What's wrong? You don't know what's wrong and you claim to be a foreigner? He's basically followed Carter's blueprint but worse. Obama has pushed out all of our allies out of power, to be replaced by Islamic regimes. The regimes THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED he didn't touch. Is an Egypt ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood the "secular" and "open" and "democratic Egypt that Obama promised while he virtually PUSHED Mubarek out? All the while he thumbs his nose while Iran persecutes and tortures it's people, and Syria has massacred over 26,000? What a great HUMANITARIAN president Obama is.What is wrong with the arab spring?
At the end of the day, it's none of your business.
This president has been a disaster, on ALL FRONTS.
Why don't you just cough to being a partisan hack and we can take it from there...
Because Mubarak was such a nice guy? Right? As was Gadahfi? Hussein? Assad?
Iran is a whole different kettle of fish...They'd kick the shit out of the US if it tried to invade (unless you used nukes, in which case all bets are off).
And what is so bad about Egypt at the moment. Pray tell, what is happening there that is so bad, or worse than it was under Mubarek. You see the words "Muslim Brotherhood" and assume the worst. You haven't a fucking clue, have you?