Black racism is not a mirror image of white racism.

[MarcATL]

The surge in "racism" is due primarily to the "white man bad" rhetoric that the elite establishment media injected into the bloodstream of America. Did they really expect for there to be no backlash?

Is that so?

 

[IM2]

The fact that black people commit an inordinate amount of crime isn't just swept under the rug because systemic racism. You can't be surprised that a lot of white people are afraid of minorities killing them. That's where the racism comes from I think.

So you're ADMITTING that American whites, in general, are a racist group of people, correct?

No more than blacks are. Racism is a feeling that you are superior to another person because of their race.

Being AFRAID of a person because of their race doesn't seem racist at all. It is an acknowledgement that blacks commit crimes at a rate far greater than any other racial group.

That's just reality.

Except blacks don't commit crime at a far greater rate than any other racial group. That's a racist lie. If anyone should be scared of a race of people, we should be scared of whites. You have a 400 year documented record of terrorism against our people. And we don't have to divide or use ratios to make it up.

And you really need to drop that white racist bullshit about blacks being as racist as whites. There is no way in hell that can happen. Not when we don't control the law making process. You seem to think black people calling you whitey is the same as being put in prison for crimes you haven't committed or false charges of rape by white women, or being unarmed and blown away by police, needlessly harrassed by police because they believe the fake news you posted about blacks and crime.

So the next time you try running your white mouth about us and crime, read the motherfucking Uniform Crime Reports and look at the totals. Fuck that per capita crap because there is no such thing as 1/3 of a person or 1/3 of a crime. Whites commit more crimes than anyone else here and do so about 3 times more than blacks. So your racism is what has you scared.

 

[MarcATL]

No more than blacks are. Racism is a feeling that you are superior to another person because of their race.

Being AFRAID of a person because of their race doesn't seem racist at all. It is an acknowledgement that blacks commit crimes at a rate far greater than any other racial group.

That's just reality.

So then it's an admission that whites, in general, are AFRAID of blacks, yes?

Note how the subject uses the phrase "seem racist", emphasis on the word "SEEM."

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Racism is racism. And racism is really just an ugly form of collectivism.

No, racism is not that simple. If whites were just calling us bad names for the past 400 years, nobody would be talking about racism.

What did they call you 400 years ago?

 

[MarcATL]

What about Whoopie? Or Sammy Davis?

What about 'em?

 

[MarcATL]

What did they call you 400 years ago?

Slaves?

 

[IM2]

The surge in "racism" is due primarily to the "white man bad" rhetoric that the elite establishment media injected into the bloodstream of America. Did they really expect for there to be no backlash?

Is that so?

What surge in racism? Seems the same to me. How about you Marc?

 

[MizMolly]

The fact that black people commit an inordinate amount of crime isn't just swept under the rug because systemic racism. You can't be surprised that a lot of white people are afraid of minorities killing them. That's where the racism comes from I think.

So you're ADMITTING that American whites, in general, are a racist group of people, correct?

No more than blacks are. Racism is a feeling that you are superior to another person because of their race.

Being AFRAID of a person because of their race doesn't seem racist at all. It is an acknowledgement that blacks commit crimes at a rate far greater than any other racial group.

That's just reality.

Except blacks don't commit crime at afargreater rate than any other raical group. That's a radcist lie. If anyone should be scared of a race of people, we should be scared of whitews. You have a 400 year documented reco9rd of terrorism against our people. And we don't have to divide or use ratios to make it up.

And you really need to drop that white racist bullshit about blacks being as racist as whites. There is no way in hell that can happen. Not when we don't control the law making process. You seem to think black people calling you whitey is the same as beinigput in prioson for crimes you haven't committed or false charges of rape by white women, or beingunarmed anf blownaway by police, needlessl;y harrassed by police because they belive the fake bews you posted about blacks and crime.

Soi the nexttime you try running your white mouth about us and crime read the motherfucking

What law making process favors only whites? Bullshit on the false charges made by whites when blacks do it too, both are wrong. I suppose you think all blacks in prison are innocent? If innocent people jailed unfairly it is wrong, but you ASSume it happens only to blacks?

 

[IM2]

Racism is racism. And racism is really just an ugly form of collectivism.

No, racism is not that simple. If whites were just calling us bad names for the past 400 years, nobody would be talking about racism.

What did they call you 400 years ago?

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

 

[MarcATL]

What surge in racism? Seems the same to me. How about you Marc?

Ditto.

 

[MarcATL]

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

 

[WillowTree]

Wacisim!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What did they call you 400 years ago?

Slaves?

You personally? Who said it to you?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Racism is racism. And racism is really just an ugly form of collectivism.

No, racism is not that simple. If whites were just calling us bad names for the past 400 years, nobody would be talking about racism.

What did they call you 400 years ago?

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

Sorry, was this done to you personally? Can you give us specific details?

 

[WillowTree]

Hey dumbasses! When you tell white people they have to leave the library cause black peoples are there. Well dumbasses. That’s racism.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

The fact that black people commit an inordinate amount of crime isn't just swept under the rug because systemic racism. You can't be surprised that a lot of white people are afraid of minorities killing them. That's where the racism comes from I think.

Since whites commit abot 3 times the number of crimes...

I imagine the concept of per capita eludes you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Racism is racism. And racism is really just an ugly form of collectivism.

No, racism is not that simple. If whites were just calling us bad names for the past 400 years, nobody would be talking about racism.

What did they call you 400 years ago?

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

What was the name of your relative in 1620?

 

[MarcATL]

You personally? Who said it to you?

What does it matter? What are you trying to get at?

Spit it out!

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

No more than blacks are. Racism is a feeling that you are superior to another person because of their race.

Being AFRAID of a person because of their race doesn't seem racist at all. It is an acknowledgement that blacks commit crimes at a rate far greater than any other racial group.

That's just reality.

So then it's an admission that whites, in general, are AFRAID of blacks, yes?

Note how the subject uses the phrase "seem racist", emphasis on the word "SEEM."

Whites have been afraid of blacks ever since slavery days when they rightfully, in my opinion, lived in fear that their slaves would rise up and kill them while they slept in their beds at night.

When you spend your life violating the basic human rights of another human being and doing everything within your power to oppress them under a doctrine whose falsity can be proven simply by the fact that had any of the things that were done to the slaves had been done to a white person, the white community would have insisted upon swift and fatal justice, it makes sense that you would live in fear of retribution.

A point in case is when whites torched and burned to the ground a community of Tusla, Oklahoma known as the Black Wall Street for the alleged assault of a white girl. All accounts indicated that she had not been assaulted, that she was bumped into by a black teen.

Never in the history of this country have black people been allowed to demand justice in this manner without being charged and convicted of the applicable crimes yet none of the white rioters ever faced justice.

This is the history of the white race in the United States, these types of acts and more, sometimes far more heinous crimes. If you want to view black people through a lens that doesn't include this history and provides no understanding of it, that's a failing on your part and the part of every other racist white person who laments the alleged "racism" of blacks which in most cases is a reaction to the institutional racism that has been practiced in this country against those of us of African descent since it's inception.

In fact many of the members posting on this site crying about their fear of being replaced or of the white race becoming a minority sound as if they fear being treated the way the white race treated black people.

The Tulsa race massacre (also called the Tulsa race riot, the Greenwood Massacre, or the Black Wall Street Massacre) of 1921[9][10][11][12][13][14] took place on May 31 and June 1, 1921, when mobs of white residents attacked black residents and businesses of the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma.[1] It has been called "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history."[15] The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the district – at that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street".

More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and as many as 6,000 black residents were interned at large facilities, many for several days.[16][17] The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 36 dead, but the American Red Cross declined to provide an estimate. A 2001 state commission examination of events was able to confirm 39 dead, 26 black and 13 white, based on contemporary autopsy reports, death certificates and other records.[1]:114 The commission gave overall estimates from 75–100 to 150–300 dead.[1]:13[1]:23

The massacre began over Memorial Day weekend after 19-year-old Dick Rowland, a black shoeshiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, the 17-year-old white elevator operator of the nearby Drexel Building. He was taken into custody. A subsequent gathering of angry local whites outside the courthouse where Rowland was being held, and the spread of rumors he had been lynched, alarmed the local black population, some of whom arrived at the courthouse armed. Shots were fired and twelve people were killed: ten white and two black.[18] As news of these deaths spread throughout the city, mob violence exploded.[2] White rioters rampaged through the black neighborhood that night and morning killing men and burning and looting stores and homes, and only around noon the next day Oklahoma National Guard troops managed to get control of the situation by declaring martial law. About 10,000 black people were left homeless, and property damage amounted to more than $1.5 million in real estate and $750,000 in personal property (equivalent to $32.25 million in 2019).

 

[MarcATL]

Whites have been afraid of blacks ever since slavery days when they rightfully, in my opinion, lived in fear that their slaves would rise up and kill them while they slept in their beds at night.

When you spend your life violating the basic human rights of another human being and doing everything within your power to oppress them under a doctrine whose falsity can be proven simply by the fact that had any of the things that were done to the slaves had been done to a white person, the white community would have insisted upon swift and fatal justice. A point in case is when whites torched and burned to the ground a community of Tusla, Oklahoma known as the Black Wall Street for the alleged assault of a white girl. All accounts indicated that she had not been assaulted, that she was bumped into by a black teen.

Never in the history of this country have black people been allowed to demand justice in this manner without being charged and convicted of the appicable crimes yet none of the white rioters ever faced justice.

This is the history of the white race in the United States, these types of acts and more, sometimes far more heinous crimes. If you want to view black people through a lens that doesn't include this history and provides no understanding of it, that's a failing on your part and the part of every other racist white person who laments the alleged "racism" of blacks which in most cases is a reaction to the institutional racism that has been practiced in this country against those of us of African descent since it's inception.

The Tulsa race massacre (also called the Tulsa race riot, the Greenwood Massacre, or the Black Wall Street Massacre) of 1921[9][10][11][12][13][14] took place on May 31 and June 1, 1921, when mobs of white residents attacked black residents and businesses of the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma.[1] It has been called "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history."[15] The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the district – at that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street".

More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and as many as 6,000 black residents were interned at large facilities, many for several days.[16][17] The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 36 dead, but the American Red Cross declined to provide an estimate. A 2001 state commission examination of events was able to confirm 39 dead, 26 black and 13 white, based on contemporary autopsy reports, death certificates and other records.[1]:114 The commission gave overall estimates from 75–100 to 150–300 dead.[1]:13[1]:23

The massacre began over Memorial Day weekend after 19-year-old Dick Rowland, a black shoeshiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, the 17-year-old white elevator operator of the nearby Drexel Building. He was taken into custody. A subsequent gathering of angry local whites outside the courthouse where Rowland was being held, and the spread of rumors he had been lynched, alarmed the local black population, some of whom arrived at the courthouse armed. Shots were fired and twelve people were killed: ten white and two black.[18] As news of these deaths spread throughout the city, mob violence exploded.[2] White rioters rampaged through the black neighborhood that night and morning killing men and burning and looting stores and homes, and only around noon the next day Oklahoma National Guard troops managed to get control of the situation by declaring martial law. About 10,000 black people were left homeless, and property damage amounted to more than $1.5 million in real estate and $750,000 in personal property (equivalent to $32.25 million in 2019).

POWERFUL!!