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[MaryL]

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Really? Let's boycott Saudi Oil and shun liberal vacillating cowards apologizing for Muslim terror.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you misinterpret the simplest of things.

Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

This is just so wrong. The Arab Palestinians became citizens to the territory under the Mandate of Palestine. The Government of Palestine was, in fact, the British Mandatory. There is no difference between a Jewish Immigrant who is granted citizenship and an Arab granted citizenship. Each has the exact same rights. What the ground is called for territorial purposes, makes no difference. The land associated to the Government of Palestine was not exclusively under a claim to the Arabs of Jewish segment of the community.

• The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.

• "The High Commissioner" shall include every person for the time being administering the Government of Palestine.

• "Public Lands" means all lands in Palestine which are subject to the control of the Government of Palestine by virtue of Treaty, convention, agreement or succession, and all lands which are or shall be acquired for the public service or otherwise.

• No action shall be brought against the Government of Palestine or any Department thereof unless with the written consent of the High Commissioner previously obtained.

• All His Majesty's officers, Civil and Military, and all other inhabitants of Palestine are hereby required and commanded to be obedient, aiding, and assisting unto the High Commissioner and to such person or persons as may from time to time, under the provisions of this Order, administer the Government of Palestine.

• All persons in Palestine shall enjoy full liberty of conscience, and the free exercise of their forms of worship subject only to the maintenance of public order and morals. Each religious community recognised by the Government shall enjoy autonomy for the internal affairs of the community subject to the provisions of any Ordinance or Order issued by the High Commissioner.

• There shall be reserved to His Majesty, His heirs and successors, the right, with the advice of His or Their Privy Council, from time to time to make all such laws or ordinances as may appear to Him or Them necessary for the peace, order and good government of Palestine in accordance with the Mandate conferred on him.
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It should be noted that this has been made clear, several time in different way, depending on how the politics of the territory evolve. One of the most important clarifications was the joint public release by the UN and the UK in a "Memorandum Names Commission as Successor Government." Excepts include:

"The Government of the United Kingdom, in a memorandum on the "Legal Meaning of the Termination of the Mandate", has advised the United Nations Palestine Commission that so fas the Mandatory Power is concerned the United Nations Commission will be the Government of Palestine after 15 May 1948."

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.
​

Your implication that "Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine;" or any such linkage to citizenship is strictly wrong as a determining factor. Prior to 1988, there was no hand-off to the Palestinian people at all.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

Hollie, et al,

Well, arguments fly in every direction in regards to the status of the 1988 Palestine.

... understanding the facts.

(COMMENT)

I think the International Criminal Court (ICC) made a bad call when it allowed the 1988 State of Palestine to be acknowledged by the court.

Only states can do that, and the ICC made a precedent by accepting the 1988 State of Palestine. But of course, that is a double edged sword. There is no question now that the Leadership in Gaza and the West Bank can be held more accountable. They cannot claim that they are colonially controlled, or some variation of a Non-Self Governing Territory.

v/r
R

 

[SAYIT]

I think the International Criminal Court (ICC) made a bad call when it allowed the 1988 State of Palestine to be acknowledged by the court. Only states can do that, and the ICC made a precedent by accepting the 1988 State of Palestine. But of course, that is a double edged sword. There is no question now that the Leadership in Gaza and the West Bank can be held more accountable. They cannot claim that they are colonially controlled, or some variation of a Non-Self Governing Territory.

Ah, but ill-informed, low-info anti-Israel propagandists (like TinHorn) can and do make those claims (ad nauseam) right here on USMB's I&P board. Of course, they also claim "Palestine" is fully functional democratic state!

Aren't we lucky?

 

[theliq]

It might be worth looking at the Arab Invasions:

The First Islamic Empire. During the seventh century the Arabs invaded North Africa three times, bringing not just a new religion but a language and customs that were alien to the native Berber tribes of the Sahara and Mediterranean hinterland.

Huh,but the Zionist Invasion in Palestine was an abomination,funny how you omitted this

 

[Indeependent]

It might be worth looking at the Arab Invasions:

The First Islamic Empire. During the seventh century the Arabs invaded North Africa three times, bringing not just a new religion but a language and customs that were alien to the native Berber tribes of the Sahara and Mediterranean hinterland.

Huh,but the Zionist Invasion in Palestine was an abomination,funny how you omitted this

A space after each comma and DON'T start a sentence with "Huh".
And it's "Invasion of Palestine", not "Invasion in Palestine".
And no period.

There's no way you're a Jew.

 

[theliq]

It might be worth looking at the Arab Invasions:

The First Islamic Empire. During the seventh century the Arabs invaded North Africa three times, bringing not just a new religion but a language and customs that were alien to the native Berber tribes of the Sahara and Mediterranean hinterland.

Huh,but the Zionist Invasion in Palestine was an abomination,funny how you omitted this

A space after each comma and DON'T start a sentence with "Huh".
And it's "Invasion of Palestine", not "Invasion in Palestine".
And no period.

There's no way you're a Jew.

Who knows Indie,but I know I could be if I wanted to,like Millions of other converts.........but never a Zionist,steve

 

[Indeependent]

It might be worth looking at the Arab Invasions:

The First Islamic Empire. During the seventh century the Arabs invaded North Africa three times, bringing not just a new religion but a language and customs that were alien to the native Berber tribes of the Sahara and Mediterranean hinterland.

Huh,but the Zionist Invasion in Palestine was an abomination,funny how you omitted this

A space after each comma and DON'T start a sentence with "Huh".
And it's "Invasion of Palestine", not "Invasion in Palestine".
And no period.

There's no way you're a Jew.

Who knows Indie,but I know I could be if I wanted to,like Millions of other converts.........but never a Zionist,steve

I hope you would never be a Zionist.
Who needs a self hating parasite like you hanging around?

 

[theliq]

It might be worth looking at the Arab Invasions:

The First Islamic Empire. During the seventh century the Arabs invaded North Africa three times, bringing not just a new religion but a language and customs that were alien to the native Berber tribes of the Sahara and Mediterranean hinterland.

Huh,but the Zionist Invasion in Palestine was an abomination,funny how you omitted this

A space after each comma and DON'T start a sentence with "Huh".
And it's "Invasion of Palestine", not "Invasion in Palestine".
And no period.

There's no way you're a Jew.

Who knows Indie,but I know I could be if I wanted to,like Millions of other converts.........but never a Zionist,steve

I hope you would never be a Zionist.
Who needs a self hating parasite like you hanging around?

Brilliant>>>>>>We actually agree......................Not self Hating in any way but would be if I was a Terrorist Zionist.......how do you lie straight in bed??????Lie by all means,if you must but what a life to lead.........

 

[Phoenall]

They don't need proof. They have the land. And the muscle to keep it.

It is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force.

Since when has this been international law as muslims are still doing it today.


YOU KEEP SAYING THIS BUT NEVER PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Chapter I | United Nations

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

S/RES/242 (1967) of 22 November 1967

The Zionists/Israel rolled their military across Palestine throwing Palestinian civilians out of their homes. About half of the 750,000 removed were ethnically cleansed before the beginning of the 1948 war.

No the arab muslims invaded in 1947 after they denied UN Res 181 and the right of the Jews to their homeland. The Jews had followed Interntanional law when they declared the State of Isreal and the arab muslims had no legal right to attempt any form of outside influence.

As your inept use of links show there was no international laws until after 1967 that stopped the acquisition of land from another sovereign nation so making your first remark just sour grapes as palestine was not and never will be a sovereign nation. The 750,000 is a made up figure comprised of arab muslim immigrants that arrived in 1947 as members of the arab league armies, arab muslims living in gaza, arab muslims living in Jordan and arab muslims living in the west bank. The true number's expelled were no more than 50,000 who were all militia/terrorist/ arab league soldiers. The only reason the number of 750,000 is used is because that is the number of Jews who survived the death march across the deserts of the M.E. after being evicted from their lands and property by the arab muslims including the "palestinians".



This is what happens when you ignore international laws and think you are above everyone else, and when you rely on islamonazi propaganda as your only source of information you are easily shown to be wrong

WOW, so many Israeli talking points in one post!

Good boy.

Not one Israeli talking point just FACTS that you have refused to even try and refute because you know all you have is islamonazi propaganda and blood libels.


WHY DONT YOU GIVE IN NOW BEFORE YOU ARE SHOWN TO BE A COMPLETE MORON

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I take it that you did not read the notes by the authors of S/RES/242 (1967).

Since when has this been international law as muslims are still doing it today.

YOU KEEP SAYING THIS BUT NEVER PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Chapter I | United Nations

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

S/RES/242 (1967) of 22 November 1967

The Zionists/Israel rolled their military across Palestine throwing Palestinian civilians out of their homes. About half of the 750,000 removed were ethnically cleansed before the beginning of the 1948 war.

(COMMENT)

Well most of the material on the pro-Palestinian side, is the same material they have reiterated for half a century.

These pro-Hostile Arab Palestinians making complaints and allegations --- totally ignore the commentary on the matter by the authors of the Security Council Resolution 242.

Remember (prior to 1967), the countries that needed a reminder were Egypt and Jordan. Jordan had Annexed the West Bank. The Egyptians placed the Gaza Strip under a Military Governorship. The inference on "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war" is not the exact language held in the UN Charter which says: "refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state:" which is just as applicable reference to the Arab League invasion of Israel.

Most Respectfully,
R

"refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state:"​

Do you mean the Zionist/Israeli attack against Palestine displacing 750,000 Palestinian civilians and taking their land?

No as that was 20 years prior to UN res 242. And the muslims are still stealing land through force to this day in the M.E. Dont see you complaining about that on the M.E. board.


Once again I ask when did it become their land, have you a link providing the answer or are you going on islamonazi propaganda again as the real figure is only 50,000 mostly illegal immigrants and deserters from the arab league armies.

Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine.

Accordingly, sovereignty lies in the people, not in a government. The Israeli position is thus untenable because it ignores the possibility that the Palestinian people constitute the lawful reversioner of the territories.

Indeed, for all intent and purposes, Israel is a foreign occupying power of the Palestinian population. The Convention is part of international humanitarian law, the main purpose of which is protection of local populations regardless of whether a legitimate sovereign state exists.

http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1299&context=bjil​

So once again you deny the Jews of palestine their rights to a homeland, free determination and the right to live in peace. And your source is an anti semitic report by some lawyers that have mangled the facts and jumped on minor discrepancies in what people say. The Jews were also palestinians and they were granted the land under international treaty in 1923. This supercedes your attempt above at altering international laws and treaties to suit your islamonazi propaganda. The facts show that the arab muslims entered the land illegally after refusing to have any dealing with the LoN in their handling of palestine. Read the words of Winston Churchill who went to palestine to see for himself what was happening and stated on oath that the arab muslims were flooding palestine with illegal immigrants.


TIME FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COURTS TO RULE ON THE ADMISSIBILITY OF EXISTING INTERNATIONAL LAWS IN REGARDS TO WHO OWNS WHAT IN PALESTINE. SEE IF YOUR HERO'S WILL ACCEPT A LEGAL DECLARATION OR IF THEY WILL IGNORE IT

 

[Phoenall]

...Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine...

The descendants of The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948 continue to delude themselves that this applies to them.

They should have accepted their piece of Old Palestine while they still could, rather than running like rabbits...

Too late now...

Sixty-eight years too late.

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

His sons and grandsons live to regret it, too.

These underperforming losers, squatting in refugee camps and refugee towns, for an entire lifetime, aren't going to get diddly-squat now.

Nature has DE-selected them.

Might as well break-up and scatter voluntarily, rather than stupidly wait for the coup de grace...

Just realised that the arab muslims did not become palestinians legally until 1988, so once again tinny shoots himself in the foot

 

[Phoenall]

It might be worth looking at the Arab Invasions:

The First Islamic Empire. During the seventh century the Arabs invaded North Africa three times, bringing not just a new religion but a language and customs that were alien to the native Berber tribes of the Sahara and Mediterranean hinterland.

Huh,but the Zionist Invasion in Palestine was an abomination,funny how you omitted this

What zionist invasion, when did it take place and who controlled it.

LINKS to your claims or admit that you have been caught LYING again

 

[Mindful]

...Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine...

The descendants of The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948 continue to delude themselves that this applies to them.

They should have accepted their piece of Old Palestine while they still could, rather than running like rabbits...

Too late now...

Sixty-eight years too late.

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

His sons and grandsons live to regret it, too.

These underperforming losers, squatting in refugee camps and refugee towns, for an entire lifetime, aren't going to get diddly-squat now.

Nature has DE-selected them.

Might as well break-up and scatter voluntarily, rather than stupidly wait for the coup de grace...

Just realised that the arab muslims did not become palestinians legally until 1988, so once again tinny shoots himself in the foot

They are an invented people.

 

[Phoenall]

It might be worth looking at the Arab Invasions:

The First Islamic Empire. During the seventh century the Arabs invaded North Africa three times, bringing not just a new religion but a language and customs that were alien to the native Berber tribes of the Sahara and Mediterranean hinterland.

Huh,but the Zionist Invasion in Palestine was an abomination,funny how you omitted this

A space after each comma and DON'T start a sentence with "Huh".
And it's "Invasion of Palestine", not "Invasion in Palestine".
And no period.

There's no way you're a Jew.

Who knows Indie,but I know I could be if I wanted to,like Millions of other converts.........but never a Zionist,steve

You dont need to be a Jew to be a zionist you know, but you do need to be a moron to become a muslim

 

[P F Tinmore]

...Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine...

The descendants of The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948 continue to delude themselves that this applies to them.

They should have accepted their piece of Old Palestine while they still could, rather than running like rabbits...

Too late now...

Sixty-eight years too late.

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

His sons and grandsons live to regret it, too.

These underperforming losers, squatting in refugee camps and refugee towns, for an entire lifetime, aren't going to get diddly-squat now.

Nature has DE-selected them.

Might as well break-up and scatter voluntarily, rather than stupidly wait for the coup de grace...

Just realised that the arab muslims did not become palestinians legally until 1988, so once again tinny shoots himself in the foot

You are clueless when it comes to popular sovereignty. Popular sovereignty is the dominant theory in international law. A good part of international law revolves around popular sovereignty.

You need to read up.

 

[jillian]

How the fuck am I supposed to boycott Israel? Do they produce something that I use?

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[jillian]

...Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine...

The descendants of The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948 continue to delude themselves that this applies to them.

They should have accepted their piece of Old Palestine while they still could, rather than running like rabbits...

Too late now...

Sixty-eight years too late.

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

His sons and grandsons live to regret it, too.

These underperforming losers, squatting in refugee camps and refugee towns, for an entire lifetime, aren't going to get diddly-squat now.

Nature has DE-selected them.

Might as well break-up and scatter voluntarily, rather than stupidly wait for the coup de grace...

Just realised that the arab muslims did not become palestinians legally until 1988, so once again tinny shoots himself in the foot

You are clueless when it comes to popular sovereignty. Popular sovereignty is the dominant theory in international law. A good part of international law revolves around popular sovereignty.

You need to read up.

you calling anyone clueless is amusing.

and *you* should probably be the one to read up..... but on actual history and not your terrorist supporting jihadi nonsense.

 

[Phoenall]

...Palestine became the Palestinian's land when they became the legal citizens of Palestine...

The descendants of The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948 continue to delude themselves that this applies to them.

They should have accepted their piece of Old Palestine while they still could, rather than running like rabbits...

Too late now...

Sixty-eight years too late.

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

His sons and grandsons live to regret it, too.

These underperforming losers, squatting in refugee camps and refugee towns, for an entire lifetime, aren't going to get diddly-squat now.

Nature has DE-selected them.

Might as well break-up and scatter voluntarily, rather than stupidly wait for the coup de grace...

Just realised that the arab muslims did not become palestinians legally until 1988, so once again tinny shoots himself in the foot

You are clueless when it comes to popular sovereignty. Popular sovereignty is the dominant theory in international law. A good part of international law revolves around popular sovereignty.

You need to read up.

WRONG as you are the one that is clueless on all INTERNATIONAL LAWS and how they apply to all people. Your version of life is based on a fantasy and islaminazi propaganda, which means that any international law that supports the Jews or Israel does not exist. What international law uses popular sovereignty and what date did it come into existence. When you answer this you will see that your stance is based on a false premice

 

[Kondor3]

None of this happy horseshit makes the slightest bit of difference.

The Jews hold the land now.

The Muslims are not going to get it back.

All the pissing and moaning in the world, and all the moronic schemes that tiny Palestinian minds can conjure, aren't going to change that outcome one little bit.

Looking back...

The handful of former Ottoman serfs and village and and desert dwellers who were on hand in 1948 and the ghoulash of migrants from diverse Arab regional tribes who flooded into the place for jobs in the first few decades of the 20th century, had their chance.

They blew it.

They did not have the muscle to contest the formation of the Israeli State.

But they did have the muscle (numbers) to accept and form and operate a modest subordinate state of their own, existing peacefully alongside the new State of Israel.

Trouble for them, is that they (1) lacked the foresight and common sense that God gave a pissant, to do just that, (2) were gullible and stupid enough to believe their Arab neighbors when told that they should run and let their neighbors do their fighting for them, and (3) they snapped-up that offer in a heartbeat, and ran like the timid little rabbits that they were (and are).

Invoking the maxim: "He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

Their Muslim-Arab neighbors failed miserably, and the idiot-Neanderthals who (nowadays) call themselves 'Palestinians' lost all; realizing too late, that a half-full glass is far better than an empty one; a truism that any five-year-old child would recognize, but which these Loser-Palestinians could not.

Their Muslim-Arab neighbors actually tried to kill-off the Jews of Israel several times, and, each time, the Jews kicked their nasty Arab asses; decisively; so that, eventually, their Arab neighbors pretty much gave up on destroying Israel or rescuing the so-called 'Palestinians'

And, given that most of the Muslim-Arab countries of the region have now been destabilized, in whole or in part, and will require years, or decades, or lifetimes, to pull themselves back together again to the extent they can intervene military against a regional superpower like Israel, there is zero - and I do mean zero - realistic prospect of more Arab cavalry coming over the hill to the rescue of their Neanderthal co-religionists.

The UN - being the toothless paper tiger and old ladies debating society that it is, and given that it is dominated by Israel-friendly powers - is also not going to do shit to help the Neandersthals in Gaza or the West Bank, except for clucking their tongues, and tossing them a bone (scraps of humanitarian aid) now and then.

Over time - and most especially in the 1960s and 1970s and 1980s and beyond - the dumbass so-called Palestinians both conducted their own terror campaigns against non-Israeli Westerners, and allowed others to conduct terror operations in their name and on their behalf - and thereby lost most of whatever thin worldwide sympathy they still enjoyed.

Those who favor the Muslim-Arabs of the region, those with short memories (vis a vis Palestinian terror operations), and those stupid and gullible enough to believe Muslim-Arab propaganda on the subject, invent pathetic tiny-pecker internationalist efforts like BDS, and loudly sing their praises, as the rest of the world laughs at such impotence.

The latest adaptation of the Palestinian virus - Hamas - has infected the tiny little brains of a great many Gazans, who suffer exceedingly, when their Hamas Masters embed war assets within schools and hospitals and mosques and residential neighborhoods, hiding behind the skirts of their womenfolk and children like the chickenshit pussies they are.

So-called Palestinian territory continues to shrink, daily, and, soon, they'll be standing on each others' shoulders, ten high, on postage-stamp -sized parcels of land not big enough to take a crap in. It's absolutely useless and pointless for these Neanderthal Palestinians to keep their families in suffering and bondage to Hamas. Life is far too short.

There's really no point in hanging around where they're not wanted, and where they have no future.

Time for the so-called Palestinians to conclude a final settlement with the assistance of the UN, to break them up and move them out and scatter them to the four winds, to become citizens of the countries of the region, amongst their ethnic kindred and co-religionists, where they can give their families a shot at a sane, safe, normal life, and the chance of a happy and prosperous and life-giving future.

It's all over, Palestinians; it's been over for nearly 70 years; you've lost; the other guys have won; you've stupidly missed all your opportunities and blown all your chances.

Time to cut your losses, pack up and get the hell out of there; moving someplace else, and to begin enjoying life. It's the only one you get. Stop wasting it. Leave. Live.