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This thread is trash. Anyone politicizing this tragedy is trash.
I'm out.
Peace.
The act was political. That was why he did it, keep running.
Running from what? People with pathetic emotional arguments eager to politicize death at the drop of a pussy hat?
Please.
I will destroy you in a debate.
I am guessing this guy is mentally ill or a criminal or both. Those are the ones that argue against universal background checks.More can and must be done to keep guns out the mentally ill and bad people. Universal background checks should be a no brainer. Laws against straw man purchases need to be put in.Restricting the rights of good guy's with guns, don't do anything but allow bad guy's more ways to use their guns against the good guys whose rights have been lost, and whose hands have been tied. It's like getting into the arena at the colloseum with a stick to somehow fight off a lion.The more guns, the more bad guys get them.If only Texas had concealed carry laws – good guys with guns would have prevented this.
Wait…
Never mind.
Thoughts and prayers.
We know one guy had a gun, but he was getting kids to safety......
And we know, from research, the more good guys with guns the more effective they are at stopping these shootings......
Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]
Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.
Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.
In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.
We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.
Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.
If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.
If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general
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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.
As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
The only people that should oppose universal background checks are the mentally ill and bad guys and gals.
Universal Background checks are a no Brainer...people who support them are not using their brains, not thinking......this guy bought this gun legally.....that means he would pass a universal background check.
There already are laws against straw buying...
Do you even understand any of these issues?
Bullshit argument sorry. Why most of th4 countries in the world dont have this mass shooting issue then?If an assailant comes up to you with a loaded gun threatening to kill you and you don’t have a gun yourself to potentially equalize the situation, then yes you will not live without a gun. That’s the point. What you don’t get about gun rights is that we hope we don’t EVER have to use them for that purpose. Nobody wants to have to pull a pistol and shoot someone in such a scenario but it sure is nice to be able to defend yourself if you ever needed towhich countries have bombings in subway every once in a while? can't be worse than Oklahoma city? Vegas Shooting? Boston? 9/11?I know. I wish we had all the bombings they have in those other countries that aren’t America. As long as law abiding people can’t own guns anymore I’d be fine with a subway being blown up by a terrorist every once in a whileOnly in America this is normal....YA became numb to this, the rest of the world shaking their head every time that show on their news....keep your deadly toys you might need them one day to kill those who pisses you off i guess.BREAKING NOW: Confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart; 18 people shot
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It's been a few you still haven' t noticed the ........
Thoughts and prayers as usual till the next mass shooting coming to your place of work, worship maybe your kids school. ONLY IN AMERICA.
The problem in the US people get killed in random places, sometimes by a family member....just because that person lost it had access to a deadly weapon and he decides to take few people with him and it happens almost daily. Now show me which countries have similar issue?
I'm telling you, you think it is normal and you become numb to it , even if it happens to your family members and in your house hold they brainwashed you to think that one can't live without guns and war toys.
Video in the stores will confirm how many shooters were involvedWitnesses are saying they saw 3 or more shooters.
Why is Tweeter already deleting the accounts of people who say they saw with their own eyes 3 or more shooters?
Something is very fishy in this tragedy too.
Witnesses are often confused
Yes, by liberal Democrats who won't fund the border wall.Based on the mass shootings over the past several months, the shooter will be a white supremacist. They have been emboldened in the past 3 years.
Did they conspire with Representative V. Escobar of El Paso who went down to Mexico to recruit more border crossers right after she voted to deprive humanitarian Aid from the American Congress she is part of the majority in. I hope they vote that traitor out of power in the next election. She's a Congressman in name only. She is against the President who has asked Congress to vote in fundings for humanitarian relief for detainees on the border.VIDEO of witness Brittney, who says her mom saw 3 armed men dressed all in black.
Jeff DeRiso on Twitter
Antifa has announced that they plan to attack El Paso. Today's shootings could be an advance op.
Antifa Terrorists Plan 10-Day Sept. Border Siege in El Paso - The Lid
Trump is and many of his supporters are dog whistlers to White Supremacists.This thread is trash. Anyone politicizing this tragedy is trash.
I'm out.
Peace.
The act was political. That was why he did it, keep running.
Running from what? People with pathetic emotional arguments eager to politicize death at the drop of a pussy hat?
Please.
I will destroy you in a debate.
The shooter politicized the event. I'm tired of the death threats because someone has different political views on this board. Sorry the motivation for this guy is inconvenient to the right but he was a white supremacist, he was a Trump supporter his motive was racism.
There is a fallacy in your source you claim it's white supremacist are terrorist? Funny thing none on the right were charged with acts of terrorism.according to the incident map on your source.Hey 2aguy this article is all about you.
Most domestic terrorism comes from white supremacists, FBI tells lawmakers
When politicians use terrorism as a tool for swaying voters, they usually mean a specific kind of terrorism. This became clear in the 2016 election season when then-candidate Trump falsely accusedPresident Obama and Hillary Clinton of refusing to use specific words to describe it.
Say it with me, everyone: "Radical Islamic terrorism."
But there's another face of terrorism in the U.S. that often gets overlooked—one that looks, on the surface, like more than half of the U.S. population.
FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress this week that most of the domestic terrorism arrests made so far this fiscal year have been associated with white supremacy. He pointed to about 100 arrests of "homegrown violent extremist terrorists" (these are generally the "radical Islamic terrorists") and about the same number of "domestic terrorists" (violent Americans with some kind of domestic beef), clarifying that the latter were mostly white supremacists.
In other words, there appear to be just as many all-American terrorists as there are "radical Islamic terrorists" in the U.S., and most American terrorists are white supremacists.
We have the highest incarceration rate in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!I don't care. As long as democrat SCUM like you refuse to punish violent crime it will never end. And that's fine with you, ya filthy butcher.Only speak the truth. Has it even been a week since our last mass shooting?You are a lair.And that happens every few years. We have mass shootings regularly....Yeah, they have bombings and stabbings and trucks running over them, so move to one, cockroach.
We have the highest incarceration rate in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!
Yes, by liberal Democrats who won't fund the border wall.Based on the mass shootings over the past several months, the shooter will be a white supremacist. They have been emboldened in the past 3 years.
We need to call in the Terrorist preventers in the secret services our government has to make Antifa never make such a plan again with life sentences when they are caught and incarcerated for harassment. I think the Democrat Congresscritters who have been so supportive of Antifa should be made accountable too. Of course, they'll be hiding under their desks in DC next to their "Get President Trump by any means possible" files.VIDEO of witness Brittney, who says her mom saw 3 armed men dressed all in black.
Jeff DeRiso on Twitter
Antifa has announced that they plan to attack El Paso. Today's shootings could be an advance op.
Antifa Terrorists Plan 10-Day Sept. Border Siege in El Paso - The Lid
again another fallacy white supremacist are not right-wing when you stop trying to make a connection things might be more civil.Did they conspire with Representative V. Escobar of El Paso who went down to Mexico to recruit more border crossers right after she voted to deprive humanitarian Aid from the American Congress she is part of the majority in. I hope they vote that traitor out of power in the next election. She's a Congressman in name only. She is against the President who has asked Congress to vote in fundings for humanitarian relief for detainees on the border.VIDEO of witness Brittney, who says her mom saw 3 armed men dressed all in black.
Jeff DeRiso on Twitter
Antifa has announced that they plan to attack El Paso. Today's shootings could be an advance op.
Antifa Terrorists Plan 10-Day Sept. Border Siege in El Paso - The Lid
^Right here. These three clowns are attempting to find a way to blame liberals for the actions of a white supremacist. Interesting how it happens and the logic is so disjointed and....well, just dumb.
There is a fallacy in your source you claim it's white supremacist are terrorist? Funny thing none on the right were charged with acts of terrorism.according to the incident map on your source.Hey 2aguy this article is all about you.
Most domestic terrorism comes from white supremacists, FBI tells lawmakers
When politicians use terrorism as a tool for swaying voters, they usually mean a specific kind of terrorism. This became clear in the 2016 election season when then-candidate Trump falsely accusedPresident Obama and Hillary Clinton of refusing to use specific words to describe it.
Say it with me, everyone: "Radical Islamic terrorism."
But there's another face of terrorism in the U.S. that often gets overlooked—one that looks, on the surface, like more than half of the U.S. population.
FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress this week that most of the domestic terrorism arrests made so far this fiscal year have been associated with white supremacy. He pointed to about 100 arrests of "homegrown violent extremist terrorists" (these are generally the "radical Islamic terrorists") and about the same number of "domestic terrorists" (violent Americans with some kind of domestic beef), clarifying that the latter were mostly white supremacists.
In other words, there appear to be just as many all-American terrorists as there are "radical Islamic terrorists" in the U.S., and most American terrorists are white supremacists.
No Trump is not a white supremacist damn his son in law and daughter are JewsTrump is and many of his supporters are dog whistlers to White Supremacists.This thread is trash. Anyone politicizing this tragedy is trash.
I'm out.
Peace.
The act was political. That was why he did it, keep running.
Running from what? People with pathetic emotional arguments eager to politicize death at the drop of a pussy hat?
Please.
I will destroy you in a debate.
The shooter politicized the event. I'm tired of the death threats because someone has different political views on this board. Sorry the motivation for this guy is inconvenient to the right but he was a white supremacist, he was a Trump supporter his motive was racism.
nope try againTRUMP VOTERS:
Odd how right-wingers spew about women and children from Central America trying to come here to avoid death ...
... and yet ignore the dozens of right-wing terrorists who are slaughtering Americans every other day.
WHY the fuck its that ??????????????????????????????????????????
again another fallacy white supremacist are not right-wing when you stop trying to make a connection things might be more civil.Did they conspire with Representative V. Escobar of El Paso who went down to Mexico to recruit more border crossers right after she voted to deprive humanitarian Aid from the American Congress she is part of the majority in. I hope they vote that traitor out of power in the next election. She's a Congressman in name only. She is against the President who has asked Congress to vote in fundings for humanitarian relief for detainees on the border.VIDEO of witness Brittney, who says her mom saw 3 armed men dressed all in black.
Jeff DeRiso on Twitter
Antifa has announced that they plan to attack El Paso. Today's shootings could be an advance op.
Antifa Terrorists Plan 10-Day Sept. Border Siege in El Paso - The Lid
^Right here. These three clowns are attempting to find a way to blame liberals for the actions of a white supremacist. Interesting how it happens and the logic is so disjointed and....well, just dumb.
