Breaking: Melania blasts Trump policy: I "hate" to see immigrant children separated from parents

[pismoe]

oh my , my widdle baby bambinos have nightmares since our last attempt to violate Americas border . Next trip we will claim that the kids have the nebulous but all purpose 'ptsd' . After that the widdle kids might get bitten by a Rattlesnake or eaten by a mountain lion or raped and impregnated by the 'coyote' showing us the way to America . Who knows ??

You are disgusting.

------------------------------------------------ Thanks Coyote but its the third world parents that are disgusting Coyote . Subject their baby bambinos to starvation and dying of thirst and all the other hazards i mention in post number 56 Coyote .

You know...it's interesting. Over and over I've asked this but, no one responds directly. Is it disgusting to take your children out of a terrible situation? One that is worse than the journey?

-------------------------------- so by your reasoning Americans are supposed to bear the brunt of these third worlders on their own kids and pay for them at Americans expense eh Coyote ??

 

[Coyote]

oh my , my widdle baby bambinos have nightmares since our last attempt to violate Americas border . Next trip we will claim that the kids have the nebulous but all purpose 'ptsd' . After that the widdle kids might get bitten by a Rattlesnake or eaten by a mountain lion or raped and impregnated by the 'coyote' showing us the way to America . Who knows ??

You are disgusting.

------------------------------------------------ Thanks Coyote but its the third world parents that are disgusting Coyote . Subject their baby bambinos to starvation and dying of thirst and all the other hazards i mention in post number 56 Coyote .

You know...it's interesting. Over and over I've asked this but, no one responds directly. Is it disgusting to take your children out of a terrible situation? One that is worse than the journey?

-------------------------------- so by your reasoning Americans are supposed to bear the brunt of these third worlders on their own kids and pay for them at Americans expense eh Coyote ??

Nope. There was absolutely nothing in my statement that said that. Nice try.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The truth about separating children from parents at the border...

FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Melania needs to talk to the orange clown that....supposedly....fathered Barron.

Just how many times will the orange clown lie about this? POTUS =POS

From your own link..


Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

Yup....trump decision...not a law...POS....

It's a law, you can't pick and choose , change the laws.

Yes. You can. Jaywalking is a crime.

But we don't throw them all in jail and chuck their kids into facilities.

Your comparing US citizens to illegals..

 

[MisterBeale]

Have I perhaps missed a detail in this child separation issue? How is it being established that a child is truly that of the person presenting him/herself as parent? Do they have those papers at least?

They have always seperated children when they've thought the parents weren't actually the parents. I think they are pretty well trained in this - through interviews etc. Much like when they interview for asylum cases.

And they are currently returning kids to parents, giving parents the right to have their children returned immediately back to them if they want to turn around and go home.

It is the parents choice to have their children taken from them, not the administration. THEY are the ones choosing to stay here and lawyer up.


What I have noticed with most of the liberal MSM propaganda is it is short on facts about the LAW that is finally being enforced.

The Truth about Separating Kids
Separating Kids at Border: The Truth | National Review

". . . The Trump administration isn’t changing the rules that pertain to separating an adult from the child. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.


It’s the last that is operative here. The past practice had been to give a free pass to an adult who is part of a family unit. The new Trump policy is to prosecute all adults. The idea is to send a signal that we are serious about our laws and to create a deterrent against re-entry. (Illegal entry is a misdemeanor, illegal re-entry a felony.)


When a migrant is prosecuted for illegal entry, he or she is taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals. In no circumstance anywhere in the U.S. do the marshals care for the children of people they take into custody. The child is taken into the custody of HHS, who cares for them at temporary shelters.


The criminal proceedings are exceptionally short, assuming there is no aggravating factor such as a prior illegal entity or another crime. The migrants generally plead guilty, and they are then sentenced to time served, typically all in the same day, although practices vary along the border. After this, they are returned to the custody of ICE.


If the adult then wants to go home, in keeping with the expedited order of removal that is issued as a matter of course, it’s relatively simple. The adult should be reunited quickly with his or her child, and the family returned home as a unit. In this scenario, there’s only a very brief separation.


Where it becomes much more of an issue is if the adult files an asylum claim. In that scenario, the adults are almost certainly going to be detained longer than the government is allowed to hold their children.


That’s because of something called the Flores Consent Decree from 1997. It says that unaccompanied children can be held only 20 days. A ruling by the Ninth Circuit extended this 20-day limit to children who come as part of family units. So even if we want to hold a family unit together, we are forbidden from doing so.


The clock ticking on the time the government can hold a child will almost always run out before an asylum claim is settled. The migrant is allowed ten days to seek an attorney, and there may be continuances or other complications. . . . "

<snip>

". . . If someone is determined to come here illegally, the decent and safest thing would be to leave the child at home with a relative and send money back home. Because we favor family units over single adults, we are creating an incentive to do the opposite and use children to cut deals with smugglers.


4) Congress can fix this. Congress can change the rules so the Flores consent decree will no longer apply, and it can appropriate more money for family shelters at the border. This is an obvious thing to do that would eliminate the tension between enforcing our laws and keeping family units together. The Trump administration is throwing as many resources as it can at the border to expedite the process, and it desperately wants the Flores consent decree reversed. Despite some mixed messages, if the administration had its druthers, family units would be kept together and their cases settled quickly.


The missing piece here is Congress, but little outrage will be directed at it, and probably nothing will be done. And so our perverse system will remain in place and the crisis at the border will rumble on."


This is the greatest father's day gift the nation could ever have. . .

Imagine What Would Have Happened If Hillary Clinton Had Won

Imagine What Would Have Happened If Hillary Clinton Had Won

 

[pismoe]

let them build their own countries . They show up looking for relief but it puts pressure on Americans money wise and society as we have to absorb them Coyote .

 

[BrokeLoser]

i see a divorce coming! Melania should shut up and cook!

Spokeswoman: Melania Trump 'hates to see' families separated at border

Donny T himself also said he hated seeing the children separated from their parents. She’s parroting what he’s already said. So what.
This just in....ALL criminals are seperated from their children when detained/incarcerated.

 

[Darkwind]

oh my , my widdle baby bambinos have nightmares since our last attempt to violate Americas border . Next trip we will claim that the kids have the nebulous but all purpose 'ptsd' . After that the widdle kids might get bitten by a Rattlesnake or eaten by a mountain lion or raped and impregnated by the 'coyote' showing us the way to America . Who knows ??

You are disgusting.

------------------------------------------------ Thanks Coyote but its the third world parents that are disgusting Coyote . Subject their baby bambinos to starvation and dying of thirst and all the other hazards i mention in post number 56 Coyote .

You know...it's interesting. Over and over I've asked this but, no one responds directly. Is it disgusting to take your children out of a terrible situation? One that is worse than the journey?

Plenty of countries from which they can move their children to. The USA is closed to all but legal immigrants.

 

[Darkwind]

The truth about separating children from parents at the border...

FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Melania needs to talk to the orange clown that....supposedly....fathered Barron.

Just how many times will the orange clown lie about this? POTUS =POS

From your own link..


Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

Yup....trump decision...not a law...POS....

It's a law, you can't pick and choose , change the laws.

Yes. You can. Jaywalking is a crime.

But we don't throw them all in jail and chuck their kids into facilities.

Border jumping is much more serious than jaywalking.

 

[Coyote]

The truth about separating children from parents at the border...

FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Melania needs to talk to the orange clown that....supposedly....fathered Barron.

Just how many times will the orange clown lie about this? POTUS =POS

From your own link..


Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

Yup....trump decision...not a law...POS....

It's a law, you can't pick and choose , change the laws.

Yes. You can. Jaywalking is a crime.

But we don't throw them all in jail and chuck their kids into facilities.

Border jumping is much more serious than jaywalking.

It is misdeamener. Like jaywalking. Much more serious is stuff like murder and rape.

 

[MisterBeale]

The truth about separating children from parents at the border...

FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Melania needs to talk to the orange clown that....supposedly....fathered Barron.

Just how many times will the orange clown lie about this? POTUS =POS

From your own link..


Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

Yup....trump decision...not a law...POS....

It's a law, you can't pick and choose , change the laws.

Yes. You can. Jaywalking is a crime.

But we don't throw them all in jail and chuck their kids into facilities.

Border jumping is much more serious than jaywalking.

Correct.

Jaywalking is a civil infraction, border jumping is a misdemeanor.

 

[MisterBeale]

From your own link..


Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

Yup....trump decision...not a law...POS....

It's a law, you can't pick and choose , change the laws.

Yes. You can. Jaywalking is a crime.

But we don't throw them all in jail and chuck their kids into facilities.

Border jumping is much more serious than jaywalking.

It is misdeamener. Like jaywalking. Much more serious is stuff like murder and rape.

Nope. Jaywalking is most commonly a civil infraction.


One attaches a criminal record, the other doesn't.

 

[Darkwind]

From your own link..


Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

Yup....trump decision...not a law...POS....

It's a law, you can't pick and choose , change the laws.

Yes. You can. Jaywalking is a crime.

But we don't throw them all in jail and chuck their kids into facilities.

Border jumping is much more serious than jaywalking.

It is misdeamener. Like jaywalking. Much more serious is stuff like murder and rape.

It may be classified as a misdemeanor, but it is far more serious. The fraud alone is enough to ensure that it should be a felony. Regardless, it is a crime and crimes are punished.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It may be classified as a misdemeanor, but it is far more serious. The fraud alone is enough to ensure that it should be a felony. Regardless, it is a crime and crimes are punished.

From the CNN article:

A Trump administration policy now charges every adult caught crossing the border illegally with federal crimes, as opposed to referring those with children mainly to immigration courts, as previous administrations did. Because the government is charging the parents in the criminal justice system, children are separated from them, without a clear procedure for their reunification aside from hotlines the parents can call to try to track their children down.

The policy to refer all adults for charges was publicly announced May 7, but the Justice Department announced it would prosecute 100% of the cases referred to it at the beginning of April.

 

[cnm]

If a president doesn't follow the law, it makes him a dictator

So defining seeking asylum as entering illegally is the act of a dictator?

 

[Darkwind]

It may be classified as a misdemeanor, but it is far more serious. The fraud alone is enough to ensure that it should be a felony. Regardless, it is a crime and crimes are punished.

From the CNN article:

A Trump administration policy now charges every adult caught crossing the border illegally with federal crimes, as opposed to referring those with children mainly to immigration courts, as previous administrations did. Because the government is charging the parents in the criminal justice system, children are separated from them, without a clear procedure for their reunification aside from hotlines the parents can call to try to track their children down.

The policy to refer all adults for charges was publicly announced May 7, but the Justice Department announced it would prosecute 100% of the cases referred to it at the beginning of April.

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post. I agree with the policy. Any adult entering this country illegally MUST be prosecuted. I don't really care at what level, but I want them charged and if found guilty by a judge, deported with a criminal record. If they bring their children with them, they should be charged with a felony child endangerment.

 

[AZGAL]

FIRST OF ALL: I am not too surprised that you go by the name "coyote" so would you care to explain? SECOND: Where are your statistics about the very few who go away leaving their children behind?...said by Mod Coyote: "I don't care what you think of him, the fact that some parents get deported before they are able to recover their children is alarming."

 

[MisterBeale]

If a president doesn't follow the law, it makes him a dictator

So defining seeking asylum as entering illegally is the act of a dictator?

What civil war is going on in this hemisphere?

I'm not aware of roaming death squads. Please, enlighten the forum.

What are they requesting asylum from?

 

[JimH52]

The truth about separating children from parents at the border...

FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Melania needs to talk to the orange clown that....supposedly....fathered Barron.

Just how many times will the orange clown lie about this? POTUS =POS

From your own link..


Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

Yup....trump decision...not a law...POS....

It's a law, you can't pick and choose , change the laws.

It is NOT a law requiring kids to be separated from their parents. It is a policy decision by trump and his stooge....Magooo

 

[JimH52]

If a president doesn't follow the law, it makes him a dictator

So defining seeking asylum as entering illegally is the act of a dictator?

What civil war is going on in this hemisphere?

I'm not aware of roaming death squads. Please, enlighten the forum.

What are they requesting asylum from?

You have no idea the atrocities that are taking place in central American countries...and like all good trunpettes....you don't care...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nobody wants to see children separated from their parents.
Unfortunately illegals dont seem to mind it.

No. You don’t mind. You voted in the people who created this NEW policy, you supported it, and when it started to backfire the people who put it in p,ace blame everyone but themselves.

New policy? Sister, you best back that truck up! It is the policy that was written into the LAW!

I find it ironic that your user name is also the name given to those who smuggle illegals into this country. Coincidence? Maybe not?