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You're a liar. You said "Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you."Oh stop. Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ everyday. Both large and small businesses. Most of my Republican friends don't have a problem with businesses going to Government for handouts. They only have a problem when Government intervenes on behalf of struggling workers. It's the ultimate greed & hypocrisy.
You're a liar. You said "Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you."Oh stop. Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ everyday. Both large and small businesses. Most of my Republican friends don't have a problem with businesses going to Government for handouts. They only have a problem when Government intervenes on behalf of struggling workers. It's the ultimate greed & hypocrisy.
And what kind of friend would trash people he knows on the internet. That's not what friends do so I believe you're lying about that as well.
You're a lying retard.You're a liar. You said "Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you."Oh stop. Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ everyday. Both large and small businesses. Most of my Republican friends don't have a problem with businesses going to Government for handouts. They only have a problem when Government intervenes on behalf of struggling workers. It's the ultimate greed & hypocrisy.
And what kind of friend would trash people he knows on the internet. That's not what friends do so I believe you're lying about that as well.
Are you denying American Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ all the time?
You're a lying retard.You're a liar. You said "Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you."Oh stop. Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ everyday. Both large and small businesses. Most of my Republican friends don't have a problem with businesses going to Government for handouts. They only have a problem when Government intervenes on behalf of struggling workers. It's the ultimate greed & hypocrisy.
And what kind of friend would trash people he knows on the internet. That's not what friends do so I believe you're lying about that as well.
Are you denying American Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ all the time?
You're a lying retard.You're a lying retard.You're a liar. You said "Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you."Oh stop. Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ everyday. Both large and small businesses. Most of my Republican friends don't have a problem with businesses going to Government for handouts. They only have a problem when Government intervenes on behalf of struggling workers. It's the ultimate greed & hypocrisy.
And what kind of friend would trash people he knows on the internet. That's not what friends do so I believe you're lying about that as well.
Are you denying American Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ all the time?
Ha, y'all love Big Government intervention, just as long as you're getting something out of it. Good to see struggling workers getting theirs. It's a good thing.
You're a lying retard.You're a lying retard.You're a liar. You said "Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you."Oh stop. Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ everyday. Both large and small businesses. Most of my Republican friends don't have a problem with businesses going to Government for handouts. They only have a problem when Government intervenes on behalf of struggling workers. It's the ultimate greed & hypocrisy.
And what kind of friend would trash people he knows on the internet. That's not what friends do so I believe you're lying about that as well.
Are you denying American Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ all the time?
Ha, y'all love Big Government intervention, just as long as you're getting something out of it. Good to see struggling workers getting theirs. It's a good thing.
You're a liar. You said "Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you."Oh stop. Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ everyday. Both large and small businesses. Most of my Republican friends don't have a problem with businesses going to Government for handouts. They only have a problem when Government intervenes on behalf of struggling workers. It's the ultimate greed & hypocrisy.
And what kind of friend would trash people he knows on the internet. That's not what friends do so I believe you're lying about that as well.
Are you denying American Businesses lobby Government for breaks and $$ all the time?
You've lost your way son. Listen to yourself sometime. You celebrate American Workers making less than their counterparts made 30yrs ago. You've allowed your hate & greed to consume you.
Not really. I celebrate that I am paid what my work is worth. I could work for any of big three, but apparently they cant afford me.
Hey enjoy your cars while American Workers suffer. Whatever floats your boat i guess. But don't think for one minute you're a good person. Cause yuze sure ain't.
Here's a hint. Make better cars at a better price and they won't be suffering.
The High Cost of Low Price. And it's become incredibly costly for American Workers. And now they'll turn to Welfare Entitlements for survival. A wonderful success story. You guys are great. What would we do without you?
Why do you want to deny the poor a chance at the goods the wealthy take for granted?
You never told us how much is a fair wage. Lets say that everyone is doing exactly the same job, how much should they be paid? Is it the same in NYC as in Fargo ND? Is it the same for a single guy living with his parents as for a married guy with 4 kids? Is it the same for a teenager working for pocket money as for a single mom?
And finally, who decides what is a fair wage? Who is this omnipitant wage setter?
I've asked that question a thousand times here. What is a decent livable wage in America today? I've asked people to put a number on it. Most decline and run as far away from the question as fast as possible. So i'll ask you too. What do you think is a decent livable wage for average Americans? Put a number out there.
You need to explain first what "livable wage" is.
No i don't. I'm asking you personally to put a number out there. What do you think is a decent livable wage for an American Worker today?
It is whatever the worker and employer agree on. No one is forced to work for less than he thinks he is worth.
Everyone is forced to work for less than he or she thinks they're worth.
And here's another thing to consider: The number of workers (i.e., people who draw a paycheck signed by somebody else) outnumber by far the number of business owners and corporate big shots.
So if you conservatives ever want to get a firm foothold in governing this country, you'd better stop shitting on the worker.
Ah, gives me a headache. Celebrating American Workers making less than counterparts made 30-40 years ago? WTF?? Seriously, sometimes i get very ashamed of my Republican friends.
wrong again. he american blue collar workers in the car factories in the south are making good wage, good benefits, good working conditions, and good retirement programs. They don't need to give any money to the UAW fat cats so they they can sit on their yachts eating fancy meals.
Mercedes, BMW, Subaru, Honda, Toyota, VW, Kia, Mazda, Nissan---------thousands of good paying blue collar american jobs-----------and no fricken union dues. Not only that, but they are putting out excellent products at competitive prices.
Because of the Un-American practice of Outsourcing and hateful greedy Americans, those workers are now making less $$ than their counterparts made 30-40 years ago.
Congratulations guys! You did it! American Workers are now broke and need Welfare Entitlements just to survive. A resounding success. Thank you.
exactly how is assembling foreign cars in the USA outsourcing? and you are totally full of shit claiming that they make less than UAW workers made 30-40 years ago. that is one of your most stupid claims ever.
I've seen this before. Don't expect any change.
the guy calls himself paulitician, but he is a raving liberal. But liberal lying has been documented many times already.
I am 'Liberal' on some issues. But so what? Not everything Liberal is 'Bad.' Doing what's right is far more important than being obsessed with adhering to a rigid inflexible Political Ideology.
Filipinos Say They Worked For $3 Per Hour As U.S. Guestworkers
Eleven Filipino bakery workers say they were lured to the U.S. by the promise of high wages to support their poor families back home. Instead, they claim in a lawsuit filed Wednesday in California court, they were forced to work 14-hour days for as little $3 an hour, threatened with debt and deportation if they spoke up about their working conditions.
More: Filipinos Say They Worked For $3 Per Hour As U.S. Guestworkers
Welcome to America! Land of unbridled capitalistic greed.
You forget to mention this:
The workers are now suing the Los Angeles bakery and its owners, a Filipino couple...
This is an excellent example of why the United States needs a more restrictive immigration policy. We constantly import a substantial amount of other countries' trash.
"A Filipino couple"? That makes it even more despicable that they would cheat their own people!
You said that already. If you can't address the points I'm raising, please don't quote my posts.The idea that outsiders should determine the wage (minimum, maximum, or otherwise) for any individual is an affront to personal liberty. The wages negotiated between an employer and an employee are no one else's business.
Ha, businesses love Big Government just fine when it's giving em Tax Breaks & $$.
What you're not getting is that they also love it when government dictates our economic decisions because they know they can control it.
Most Republicans i know, have no problem with businesses lobbying Government for handouts. So they like Big Government interference just fine. But only if it benefits them. When it comes to Workers wanting a piece of the pie, they're all about "Government should stay out of it!!"
Seriously, i really am ashamed of my Republican friends on issues like this. Their greed and hypocrisy is pretty embarrassing.
I did address it. You're just fine with Big Government interference in business if it benefits you. Otherwise, you're all "Government should stay out of it!!" Such high & mighty hypocrisy. Shame on ya.
They know they will not be able to pass on the costs because the uber liberals in Seattle are very generous with your money but very tight with their own.
"A Filipino couple"? That makes it even more despicable that they would cheat their own people!
Because of the Un-American practice of Outsourcing and hateful greedy Americans, those workers are now making less $$ than their counterparts made 30-40 years ago.
Congratulations guys! You did it! American Workers are now broke and need Welfare Entitlements just to survive. A resounding success. Thank you.
exactly how is assembling foreign cars in the USA outsourcing? and you are totally full of shit claiming that they make less than UAW workers made 30-40 years ago. that is one of your most stupid claims ever.
I've seen this before. Don't expect any change.
the guy calls himself paulitician, but he is a raving liberal. But liberal lying has been documented many times already.
I am 'Liberal' on some issues. But so what? Not everything Liberal is 'Bad.' Doing what's right is far more important than being obsessed with adhering to a rigid inflexible Political Ideology.
If there is any occasion in which you think the government should micro-manage economic issues, you need to hand in your Ron Paul Fan Club membership card, because you're a hypocrite.
So you hate big government yet you want the government to tell businesses what to pay peopleA. You don't know any Republicans.Most Republicans i know, have no problem with businesses lobbying Government for handouts. So they like Big Government interference just fine. But only if it benefits them. When it comes to Workers wanting a piece of the pie, they're all about "Government should stay out of it!!"
Seriously, i really am ashamed of my Republican friends on issues like this. Their greed and hypocrisy is pretty embarrassing.
B. You have no friends.
Oh i know plenty. That's why i know how many of you think. Y'all just love Big Government intervention in business if you think it will benefit you. But God forbid the struggling worker catches a break every now & then.
Anyway, the thread is B.S. Businesses are not closing all over Seattle due to higher wages. That's just greedy wanker 'Sky is Falling' Bullshite. They'll deal with it and pay their workers a little more. Life will go on.
Or the definition of "fair"I'm still waiting to read what is livable wage.
