Breaking Now: North Korea Strike Imminent (Here We Go Folks)

[beagle9]

It's time to get er done! Pray for our glorious leader and our troops.


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I hope nothing is going to happen.
A war in Korea would not solve any problem in my opinion

Hope not to, but the time has now come to either crap or get off the pot. Pardon my manor of speak. Enough is enough of allowing threats to develope into real serious threats in which challenges the world's civilized people to either go along to get along or be killed.

So when does the draft come back!!! Especially with the wars Trump will create??? There's no way in hell an all volunteer military made mostly of Red State military volunteers can it all by they're lonesome.

. Wow, so you admit that only the red States are producing the toughest men and women of the armed forces ??

The Red States root for war. The rest seek alternative solutions.

Solutions that never materialize, and only cause more problems down the road.

 

[Markle]

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

We have seen how well that leading from behind policy has worked. You saw who filled the vacuum left when petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama pulled all our troops out of Iraq against the advice of our military who forecast exactly what happened.

So far, it certainly has not been a blunder. The Free World has given him a standing ovation.

As for our relations with Russia. Don't put any credence into what was said, but rather what they DO. Same with China. Saving face is everything with these leaders.

Rex Tillerson's scheduled trip to Russia was not canceled. While a meeting with President Putin was NOT on the agenda, the two, who know each other well, met for TWO HOURS. While the Russian leader was verbose and speaking to the Russians at the joint press conference. Sec. of State Tillerson was concise, direct, to the point and stone-faced. An 180-degree shift from John Kerry who brought James Taylor with him when Kerry was groveling to the French.

As a result of President Trumps meeting with President Xi also has reaped political wins. China abstained rather than voting against the U.S. demand for sanctions against Syria. China has also turned back twelve shiploads of coal being sent to them from North Korea.

These are example of more progress toward tamping down terrorism, removing al-Assad from power in Syria and the little fat guy in North Korea than we've seen in EIGHT YEARS.

 

[Markle]

The Red States root for war. The rest seek alternative solutions.

We have seen how well those alternative solutions have worked over the past EIGHT YEARS. Total and complete failure.

Is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result the definition of insanity?

 

[westwall]

It's time to get er done! Pray for our glorious leader and our troops.


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I hope nothing is going to happen.
A war in Korea would not solve any problem in my opinion

Hope not to, but the time has now come to either crap or get off the pot. Pardon my manor of speak. Enough is enough of allowing threats to develope into real serious threats in which challenges the world's civilized people to either go along to get along or be killed.

So when does the draft come back!!! Especially with the wars Trump will create??? There's no way in hell an all volunteer military made mostly of Red State military volunteers can it all by they're lonesome.

. Wow, so you admit that only the red States are producing the toughest men and women of the armed forces ??

The Red States root for war. The rest seek alternative solutions.

Alternative solutions that over the last hundred plus years have made the ensuing wars even worse. Yeah, thanks. I'll take real leadership over moronic "alternative solutions" any day of the week.

 

[eagle1462010]

It's time to get er done! Pray for our glorious leader and our troops.


Twitter

I hope nothing is going to happen.
A war in Korea would not solve any problem in my opinion

Hope not to, but the time has now come to either crap or get off the pot. Pardon my manor of speak. Enough is enough of allowing threats to develope into real serious threats in which challenges the world's civilized people to either go along to get along or be killed.

So when does the draft come back!!! Especially with the wars Trump will create??? There's no way in hell an all volunteer military made mostly of Red State military volunteers can it all by they're lonesome.

. Wow, so you admit that only the red States are producing the toughest men and women of the armed forces ??

The Red States root for war. The rest seek alternative solutions.

Moronic statement. Nobody roots for War......we just believe in Peace thru strength and not drawing crayon red lines in the sand that do not work on fanatical regimes and groups. Clinton's deal with N. Korea failed. Obama's deal with Syria failed. Obama's deal with Iran will fail. Obama's military intervention in Libya failed. Obama's actions in Yemen failed. Stopping the spread of ISIS has failed. Mass immigration of Syrian refugees in Europe has failed. UN warnings to N. Korea has failed.

When all the decisions of the past have FAILED it's time to try something else. Not the repeated FAILED attempts of APPEASEMENT.

 

[Flopper]

Why? They are harmless. Who will you replace him with? Do Republicans understand you have to plan the war out beyond the initial bombing? God Republicans are stupid.

I think Russia and China and Iran are laughing at us. When we waste all our money and ammo in Iraq, Syria, Afganistan and North Korea how will we take on the Russians? When we need to build tanks and ships and we realize all our plants are in Mexico and Mexico won't let us come over Trump's wall.

How is any psycho with nuclear weapons harmless?

What has he done? Are you really ready for another war? I'm not afraid of kim Jung in. You are?

The 'war' against the Pervert will last 24 hours.
He'll eat a whole MOAB all by himself for lunch and the entire country of Rev. Jim Jones's zombies will stand at attention and die of thirst and starvation.
The NK zombies near the border will throw down their weapons and plead and beg the SK military to allow them to surrender.
Ain't going to happen. Sorry. No room in SK for NK zombies.

I seriously doubt that. North Korea has been at war with the United States for over 60 years. These people are constantly preparing for an invasion.

North Korea is believed to possess more than 1,000 missiles of various models, including (ICBMs), according to the National Committee on North Korea, a non-partisan research coalition. The size of their nuclear arsenal is unknown but we do know that they have nuclear weapons that can be used on short and medium range missiles capable of striking South Korea and Japan. There is also a strong possible that they could hit US territory in the South Pacific and possibly Hawaii. They have over million military personnel on active duty and over 600,000 in reserve. The US DOD estimates that NK has at least 400 operation jet fighters, and an unknown number of bombers but the number exceeds 200. They have a mutual defense treaty with both China and Russia.

Although the US would definitely prevail in a war, any such war would be costly in both loss of life and dollars for both the US and it's allies. If Russia or China became involved, then......

Why the world's superpowers can't stop an aggressive North Korea
Korean People's Army Air Force - Wikipedia
Korean People's Army - Wikipedia

And after bush showed us what we are capable of in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we want another war.

If we shouldn't have invaded Baghdad we certainly shouldn't invade pyow yang or whatever the capital of north Korea is called.

It turns out Obama was right not weak. We need to stop policing the world. Russia iran and China are fucking with us. We need smart not tough

The options the Trump administration has are quite straight forward.

• Launch a surgical attack on North Korean nuclear and missile facilities. North Korean would almost surely respond, with a attack on South Korea where about 25,000 US military are stationed.
• Do a massive primitive strike on North Korea. This would certain end in a messy ground war.
• Simply acknowledge North Korea, a phone call from Trump offering to sit down and talk it over. This is exactly what Kim Jong Un wants, recognition that North Korea is a major nuclear power. The downside is they will be a recognized as a nuclear power and possible a new cold war will ensue.
• Treat North Korean bluster as we have in the past but seek more stringent sanctions, particular from China, Russia, India, Iran and Pakistan, North Korean's trading partners . This could be the best alternative if the administration has the diplomatic skills to pull it off.

 

[Flopper]

In Trump's words, relations with Russia are at an all time low, a US armada approaching North Korea, and our fearless leader reversing himself on most of his campaign promises. Wow, all this in less than 100 day.

Relations with Russia were already at a low before he took office. It is only fake news that keeps a story going on how they got him elected from sore losers from the Democratic Party. Obama pushed Russia in Syria to a deal with no verification and it didn't work. He put sanctions on them over the Ukraine, and conducted small military exercises on their border in places like Poland.

But Obama was a paper tiger laughed at on the World Stage. Put up Red lines and when they crossed it did relatively nothing. Same as the UN who have charged Assad for crimes against Humanity and North Korea for Nuclear testing and test firing missiles in the direction of Japan.

Trump didn't ask for permission when Assad used gas. He gave them a direct and blunt message to knock it to hell off. He didn't destroy their military but destroyed aircraft they do actually need to fight for their country.

This ticked off Russia and North Korea because they were used to having a blow hard in office. As far as our Fleet operating off in the South China Sea in support of our allies. It is international waters and I've been there and done that when I served. I was part of the last operation Team Spirit which practiced amphibious assualts in Korea in the face of North Korea. I think those excercises should return to show our support and to give the fat man in N. Korea a show of force yet again.

In regards to not keeping his campaign promises.......nothing but partisan bickering from you. If you were referring to the offer of better trade deals to put N. Korea in check it was an offer to deal with the problem in North Korea............

The Cold War returned before he ever took office and Obama certainly did nothing but make himself look like a total fool.

Trump's neat jerk reaction to Syria use of chemical weapons was a mistake, a big one. Yes, it will divert attention from Russian support of Trump in the election and Assad certainly needed a good ass kicking, but what effect will it have abroad? Will it stop Syria from doing it again? Very unlikely, they still have the planes and chemical weapons. Will Russia abandon Syria? Of course not, they have vital interest in Syria who has been an ally since the 1950's and is Russia's toe hold in the middle east. So what has it done? In Trump's words Russian US relations have moved to an all time low.

Right now we need Russia to put pressure on North Korea. Russia not China has been named by Kim Jong Un for 3 years as his greatest ally. Any chance of the US going to the UN to increase sanctions on North Korea or forming a military coalition will be blocked by Russia. This is what comes from not having any foreign policy.

That is a matter of opinion. The use of Chemical Weapons or nerve agents in this case is considered a War Crime. Those that do the deed deserve to get punished for doing so, or they will think it's ok to do it again. The strike was minimal and was appropriate considering they had already supposedly agreed to destroy them all. I believe in Peace thru Strength and if you put a dang line in the sand you pound the one dumb enough to cross it.

Let's look at Russia's friends. Syria before it went to hell was a supporter of terrorism with the Hez against our ally Israel. They have openly embraced what we are fighting against. Yet given the situation in Syria the other side isn't any better and with ISIS considerably worse.

Iran has promoted Terrorism around the world. Supplied advanced IED's to our enemies that have sent Americans home in body bags. Are now deeply involved in Yemen to start a War with Saudi Arabia. And they go to meetings and chant Death to America,

Yeah Russia has wonderful friends including the dumb azz that just used a banned weapon in Syria. They use it again then they should be hit again. His choice. If he's dumb enough to think Trump's bluffing. He thought he could get away with it because he was used to dealing with Obama...........

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

Any chance of Russian help in preventing a nuclear confrontation with North Korea has evaporated. Trump is foolishly looking to China for help, who he has labeled a currency manipulator, sponsor of state cyberhacking, and a villainest regime that is raping the US.

I expected war due to Trump's ineptness in international diplomacy but putting us on the verge of a nuclear confrontation with North Korea in the first 100 days exceeds my expectations.

I don't believe the sky is falling. I served during the Cold War and players are flexing their muscles on the world stage. The response to Assad was the correct thing to do........You can not put red lines in the sand and do nothing after they are crossed as the last President did. Veiled threats or gunboat diplomacy only work if the enemy understands you aren't bluffing. Russia and Obama supposedly created a deal that ended the threat................and only fools thought they'd actually honor the deal. Same goes for Iran........they will never honor the deal with Obama and will continue to try and get nuclear weapons which will cause Saudi Arabia to do the same.

Russia cares only about it's long standing relations with Syria which started 6 decades ago......and primarily the Naval Base which is strategic to the Mediteranean Sea for them. They will not lightly give that up. That being said why is it that Syria with Russian support can't retake Syria........They have been fighting for 6 or 7 years and the country is still in others control. I actually hoped that Russia would help them retake the place under Obama and end the damned problem. But with outside arms and fighters the fight goes on and on. Syrian army is wearing out and the use of Chemical Weapons tells me Assad and the Russians are getting desperate.

In regards to N. Korea...........China needs to put their damn dog on a leash. He is openly provoking a conflict and not the other way around. He has ticked off Japan to the point they are ready to go kick his ass which is remarkable to me given their stance against War. I was stationed there way back when and this is nearly unbelievable. China is their dang father and he needs to pull out the belt and whoop that ass...............because the world will not stand forever with his blatant threats and tests of missiles to his neighbors. Eventually he will go to far and force a War. Trump trying to negotiate through China and cut deals to end the problem is a hell of a lot better than another dang War.

In regards to the fleet their..........we have been doing so for a long time so don't tell me the sky is falling Mr. Chicken Little.

This world is a very dangerous place now and it has been getting worse for some time now. These problems have been on the table for many years and suddenly because we take out a few plans the dang sky is falling. That is partisan BS.

Russia can't solve the problem in Syria because there are over 50 different armed factions fighting in Syria with different agendas. There are at least 10 different major groups within the Syrian army, several terrorist groups, multiple groups from Iran, Iraq, Turkey, and at least 4 terrorist groups including ISIS. Most of these groups have different agendas.

 

[eagle1462010]

Relations with Russia were already at a low before he took office. It is only fake news that keeps a story going on how they got him elected from sore losers from the Democratic Party. Obama pushed Russia in Syria to a deal with no verification and it didn't work. He put sanctions on them over the Ukraine, and conducted small military exercises on their border in places like Poland.

But Obama was a paper tiger laughed at on the World Stage. Put up Red lines and when they crossed it did relatively nothing. Same as the UN who have charged Assad for crimes against Humanity and North Korea for Nuclear testing and test firing missiles in the direction of Japan.

Trump didn't ask for permission when Assad used gas. He gave them a direct and blunt message to knock it to hell off. He didn't destroy their military but destroyed aircraft they do actually need to fight for their country.

This ticked off Russia and North Korea because they were used to having a blow hard in office. As far as our Fleet operating off in the South China Sea in support of our allies. It is international waters and I've been there and done that when I served. I was part of the last operation Team Spirit which practiced amphibious assualts in Korea in the face of North Korea. I think those excercises should return to show our support and to give the fat man in N. Korea a show of force yet again.

In regards to not keeping his campaign promises.......nothing but partisan bickering from you. If you were referring to the offer of better trade deals to put N. Korea in check it was an offer to deal with the problem in North Korea............

The Cold War returned before he ever took office and Obama certainly did nothing but make himself look like a total fool.

Trump's neat jerk reaction to Syria use of chemical weapons was a mistake, a big one. Yes, it will divert attention from Russian support of Trump in the election and Assad certainly needed a good ass kicking, but what effect will it have abroad? Will it stop Syria from doing it again? Very unlikely, they still have the planes and chemical weapons. Will Russia abandon Syria? Of course not, they have vital interest in Syria who has been an ally since the 1950's and is Russia's toe hold in the middle east. So what has it done? In Trump's words Russian US relations have moved to an all time low.

Right now we need Russia to put pressure on North Korea. Russia not China has been named by Kim Jong Un for 3 years as his greatest ally. Any chance of the US going to the UN to increase sanctions on North Korea or forming a military coalition will be blocked by Russia. This is what comes from not having any foreign policy.

That is a matter of opinion. The use of Chemical Weapons or nerve agents in this case is considered a War Crime. Those that do the deed deserve to get punished for doing so, or they will think it's ok to do it again. The strike was minimal and was appropriate considering they had already supposedly agreed to destroy them all. I believe in Peace thru Strength and if you put a dang line in the sand you pound the one dumb enough to cross it.

Let's look at Russia's friends. Syria before it went to hell was a supporter of terrorism with the Hez against our ally Israel. They have openly embraced what we are fighting against. Yet given the situation in Syria the other side isn't any better and with ISIS considerably worse.

Iran has promoted Terrorism around the world. Supplied advanced IED's to our enemies that have sent Americans home in body bags. Are now deeply involved in Yemen to start a War with Saudi Arabia. And they go to meetings and chant Death to America,

Yeah Russia has wonderful friends including the dumb azz that just used a banned weapon in Syria. They use it again then they should be hit again. His choice. If he's dumb enough to think Trump's bluffing. He thought he could get away with it because he was used to dealing with Obama...........

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

Any chance of Russian help in preventing a nuclear confrontation with North Korea has evaporated. Trump is foolishly looking to China for help, who he has labeled a currency manipulator, sponsor of state cyberhacking, and a villainest regime that is raping the US.

I expected war due to Trump's ineptness in international diplomacy but putting us on the verge of a nuclear confrontation with North Korea in the first 100 days exceeds my expectations.

I don't believe the sky is falling. I served during the Cold War and players are flexing their muscles on the world stage. The response to Assad was the correct thing to do........You can not put red lines in the sand and do nothing after they are crossed as the last President did. Veiled threats or gunboat diplomacy only work if the enemy understands you aren't bluffing. Russia and Obama supposedly created a deal that ended the threat................and only fools thought they'd actually honor the deal. Same goes for Iran........they will never honor the deal with Obama and will continue to try and get nuclear weapons which will cause Saudi Arabia to do the same.

Russia cares only about it's long standing relations with Syria which started 6 decades ago......and primarily the Naval Base which is strategic to the Mediteranean Sea for them. They will not lightly give that up. That being said why is it that Syria with Russian support can't retake Syria........They have been fighting for 6 or 7 years and the country is still in others control. I actually hoped that Russia would help them retake the place under Obama and end the damned problem. But with outside arms and fighters the fight goes on and on. Syrian army is wearing out and the use of Chemical Weapons tells me Assad and the Russians are getting desperate.

In regards to N. Korea...........China needs to put their damn dog on a leash. He is openly provoking a conflict and not the other way around. He has ticked off Japan to the point they are ready to go kick his ass which is remarkable to me given their stance against War. I was stationed there way back when and this is nearly unbelievable. China is their dang father and he needs to pull out the belt and whoop that ass...............because the world will not stand forever with his blatant threats and tests of missiles to his neighbors. Eventually he will go to far and force a War. Trump trying to negotiate through China and cut deals to end the problem is a hell of a lot better than another dang War.

In regards to the fleet their..........we have been doing so for a long time so don't tell me the sky is falling Mr. Chicken Little.

This world is a very dangerous place now and it has been getting worse for some time now. These problems have been on the table for many years and suddenly because we take out a few plans the dang sky is falling. That is partisan BS.

Russia can't solve the problem in Syria because there are over 50 different armed factions fighting in Syria with different agendas. There are at least 10 different major groups within the Syrian army, several terrorist groups, multiple groups from Iran, Iraq, Turkey, and at least 4 terrorist groups including ISIS. Most of these groups have different agendas.

On another thread I posted a list of those groups and the main players goals in regards to Assad and the region.............There are many and they are all arming, funding and even supplying troops to the fight..............Until we cut off all outside support the battle in the Gladiator Arena of Syria will never end........and if it goes on too much longer eventually the Syrian army will break from a long sustained seige of the region and ensure even more chaos.............

The borders need to be sealed...........but it is impossible because Turkey is supplying.........Iraq doesn't control the territory......Russia is supplying and the seaports are open for arms to flow in their from places like Iran..................so the battle will continue.

 

[sealybobo]

How is any psycho with nuclear weapons harmless?

What has he done? Are you really ready for another war? I'm not afraid of kim Jung in. You are?

The 'war' against the Pervert will last 24 hours.
He'll eat a whole MOAB all by himself for lunch and the entire country of Rev. Jim Jones's zombies will stand at attention and die of thirst and starvation.
The NK zombies near the border will throw down their weapons and plead and beg the SK military to allow them to surrender.
Ain't going to happen. Sorry. No room in SK for NK zombies.

I seriously doubt that. North Korea has been at war with the United States for over 60 years. These people are constantly preparing for an invasion.

North Korea is believed to possess more than 1,000 missiles of various models, including (ICBMs), according to the National Committee on North Korea, a non-partisan research coalition. The size of their nuclear arsenal is unknown but we do know that they have nuclear weapons that can be used on short and medium range missiles capable of striking South Korea and Japan. There is also a strong possible that they could hit US territory in the South Pacific and possibly Hawaii. They have over million military personnel on active duty and over 600,000 in reserve. The US DOD estimates that NK has at least 400 operation jet fighters, and an unknown number of bombers but the number exceeds 200. They have a mutual defense treaty with both China and Russia.

Although the US would definitely prevail in a war, any such war would be costly in both loss of life and dollars for both the US and it's allies. If Russia or China became involved, then......

Why the world's superpowers can't stop an aggressive North Korea
Korean People's Army Air Force - Wikipedia
Korean People's Army - Wikipedia

And after bush showed us what we are capable of in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we want another war.

If we shouldn't have invaded Baghdad we certainly shouldn't invade pyow yang or whatever the capital of north Korea is called.

It turns out Obama was right not weak. We need to stop policing the world. Russia iran and China are fucking with us. We need smart not tough

The options the Trump administration has are quite straight forward.

• Launch a surgical attack on North Korean nuclear and missile facilities. North Korean would almost surely respond, with a attack on South Korea where about 25,000 US military are stationed.
• Do a massive primitive strike on North Korea. This would certain end in a messy ground war.
• Simply acknowledge North Korea, a phone call from Trump offering to sit down and talk it over. This is exactly what Kim Jong Un wants, recognition that North Korea is a major nuclear power. The downside is they will be a recognized as a nuclear power and possible a new cold war will ensue.
• Treat North Korean bluster as we have in the past but seek more stringent sanctions, particular from China, Russia, India, Iran and Pakistan, North Korean's trading partners . This could be the best alternative if the administration has the diplomatic skills to pull it off.

Obama would do the last one and Republicans would call him weak. Trumps going to do exactly what Obama would do.

 

[Flopper]

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

We have seen how well that leading from behind policy has worked. You saw who filled the vacuum left when petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama pulled all our troops out of Iraq against the advice of our military who forecast exactly what happened.

So far, it certainly has not been a blunder. The Free World has given him a standing ovation.

As for our relations with Russia. Don't put any credence into what was said, but rather what they DO. Same with China. Saving face is everything with these leaders.

Rex Tillerson's scheduled trip to Russia was not canceled. While a meeting with President Putin was NOT on the agenda, the two, who know each other well, met for TWO HOURS. While the Russian leader was verbose and speaking to the Russians at the joint press conference. Sec. of State Tillerson was concise, direct, to the point and stone-faced. An 180-degree shift from John Kerry who brought James Taylor with him when Kerry was groveling to the French.

As a result of President Trumps meeting with President Xi also has reaped political wins. China abstained rather than voting against the U.S. demand for sanctions against Syria. China has also turned back twelve shiploads of coal being sent to them from North Korea.

These are example of more progress toward tamping down terrorism, removing al-Assad from power in Syria and the little fat guy in North Korea than we've seen in EIGHT YEARS.

Well, let's review briefly what Trump has accomplished. He damaged a Syrian airbase which is now back in service. Syria still has chemical weapons and delivery vehicles to launch more chemical attacks. As a result of this attack and Trump's bluster toward Russia, Trump now admits that Russian US relations are at an all time low.

Trump threats directed at North Korea has put the US on the edge of a nuclear confrontation with North Korea. In an effort to enlist Chinese help, Trump has promised China favorable treatment in a trade deal, assuming China agrees to one and has totally reversed his policy toward China. In just days China is no longer a currency manipulator intent on raping the US and is now a friend to the US even thou they have not done Jack Shit.

All this is in less than a hundred days. Give him 6 months and he'll have us in a war with Russia.

 

[sealybobo]

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

We have seen how well that leading from behind policy has worked. You saw who filled the vacuum left when petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama pulled all our troops out of Iraq against the advice of our military who forecast exactly what happened.

So far, it certainly has not been a blunder. The Free World has given him a standing ovation.

As for our relations with Russia. Don't put any credence into what was said, but rather what they DO. Same with China. Saving face is everything with these leaders.

Rex Tillerson's scheduled trip to Russia was not canceled. While a meeting with President Putin was NOT on the agenda, the two, who know each other well, met for TWO HOURS. While the Russian leader was verbose and speaking to the Russians at the joint press conference. Sec. of State Tillerson was concise, direct, to the point and stone-faced. An 180-degree shift from John Kerry who brought James Taylor with him when Kerry was groveling to the French.

As a result of President Trumps meeting with President Xi also has reaped political wins. China abstained rather than voting against the U.S. demand for sanctions against Syria. China has also turned back twelve shiploads of coal being sent to them from North Korea.

These are example of more progress toward tamping down terrorism, removing al-Assad from power in Syria and the little fat guy in North Korea than we've seen in EIGHT YEARS.

Well, let's review briefly what Trump has accomplished. He damaged a Syrian airbase which is now back in service. Syria still has chemical weapons and delivery vehicles to launch more chemical attacks. As a result of this attack and Trump's bluster toward Russia, Trump admits that Russian US relations are now at an all time low.

Trump threats directed at North Korea has put the US on the edge of a nuclear confrontation with North Korea. In an effort to enlist Chinese help, Trump has promise China favorable treatment in a trade deal, assuming China agrees to one and has totally reversed his policy toward China. In just days China has is no longer a currency manipulator intent on raping the US and is now a friend to the US eventhou they have not done Jack Shit.

All this is in less than a hundred days. Give him 6 months and he'll have us in a war with Russia.

America forgot how bad Republicans are with international foreign relations diplomacy war strategy.

 

[Flopper]

What has he done? Are you really ready for another war? I'm not afraid of kim Jung in. You are?

The 'war' against the Pervert will last 24 hours.
He'll eat a whole MOAB all by himself for lunch and the entire country of Rev. Jim Jones's zombies will stand at attention and die of thirst and starvation.
The NK zombies near the border will throw down their weapons and plead and beg the SK military to allow them to surrender.
Ain't going to happen. Sorry. No room in SK for NK zombies.

I seriously doubt that. North Korea has been at war with the United States for over 60 years. These people are constantly preparing for an invasion.

North Korea is believed to possess more than 1,000 missiles of various models, including (ICBMs), according to the National Committee on North Korea, a non-partisan research coalition. The size of their nuclear arsenal is unknown but we do know that they have nuclear weapons that can be used on short and medium range missiles capable of striking South Korea and Japan. There is also a strong possible that they could hit US territory in the South Pacific and possibly Hawaii. They have over million military personnel on active duty and over 600,000 in reserve. The US DOD estimates that NK has at least 400 operation jet fighters, and an unknown number of bombers but the number exceeds 200. They have a mutual defense treaty with both China and Russia.

Although the US would definitely prevail in a war, any such war would be costly in both loss of life and dollars for both the US and it's allies. If Russia or China became involved, then......

Why the world's superpowers can't stop an aggressive North Korea
Korean People's Army Air Force - Wikipedia
Korean People's Army - Wikipedia

And after bush showed us what we are capable of in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we want another war.

If we shouldn't have invaded Baghdad we certainly shouldn't invade pyow yang or whatever the capital of north Korea is called.

It turns out Obama was right not weak. We need to stop policing the world. Russia iran and China are fucking with us. We need smart not tough

The options the Trump administration has are quite straight forward.

• Launch a surgical attack on North Korean nuclear and missile facilities. North Korean would almost surely respond, with a attack on South Korea where about 25,000 US military are stationed.
• Do a massive primitive strike on North Korea. This would certain end in a messy ground war.
• Simply acknowledge North Korea, a phone call from Trump offering to sit down and talk it over. This is exactly what Kim Jong Un wants, recognition that North Korea is a major nuclear power. The downside is they will be a recognized as a nuclear power and possible a new cold war will ensue.
• Treat North Korean bluster as we have in the past but seek more stringent sanctions, particular from China, Russia, India, Iran and Pakistan, North Korean's trading partners . This could be the best alternative if the administration has the diplomatic skills to pull it off.

Obama would do the last one and Republicans would call him weak. Trumps going to do exactly what Obama would do.

Yep, Trump criticized Obama for suggesting we respond to an Assad chemical attack. A republican congress refused to give Obama permission to launch such an attack and now they praise Trump for doing what they say Obama should have done.

Trump's attack on Assad and his condemnation of Russia means we will get no help in the Korean crisis from Russia, North Korea's strongest ally. This is what happens when you have no foreign policy, no long term goals, just knee jerk reactions and comments form the supreme leader. Kim Jong Un and Trump would probably get along pretty well since they share the same approach to governing.

 

[Political Junky]

Bush, Jr. made it clear he wanted to be a "war president". Trump sees war as a means to get his ratings out of the gutter.

 

[Political Junky]

We learned nothing from Dubya.

Like you give a shit about warmongering. Didn't you want Clinton to win?

The Democrat base opposes war. The GOP base lives for it. WW3 is 100 times more likely with Trump than Clinton. Now you get to watch it unfold with glee like a good little rube.

Is that why the dem nominee ran on overthrowing elected foreign leaders and no fly zones? LOL
Try again?

Gaddhaffi was elected??

assad, you dumbass. I don't even know why I respond to you. You cant even read my posts correctly.
Do you remember Clinton running on wanting to overthrow the Libyan dictator?

I remember Trump saying she was crazy for saying that.

 

[beagle9]

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

We have seen how well that leading from behind policy has worked. You saw who filled the vacuum left when petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama pulled all our troops out of Iraq against the advice of our military who forecast exactly what happened.

So far, it certainly has not been a blunder. The Free World has given him a standing ovation.

As for our relations with Russia. Don't put any credence into what was said, but rather what they DO. Same with China. Saving face is everything with these leaders.

Rex Tillerson's scheduled trip to Russia was not canceled. While a meeting with President Putin was NOT on the agenda, the two, who know each other well, met for TWO HOURS. While the Russian leader was verbose and speaking to the Russians at the joint press conference. Sec. of State Tillerson was concise, direct, to the point and stone-faced. An 180-degree shift from John Kerry who brought James Taylor with him when Kerry was groveling to the French.

As a result of President Trumps meeting with President Xi also has reaped political wins. China abstained rather than voting against the U.S. demand for sanctions against Syria. China has also turned back twelve shiploads of coal being sent to them from North Korea.

These are example of more progress toward tamping down terrorism, removing al-Assad from power in Syria and the little fat guy in North Korea than we've seen in EIGHT YEARS.

Well, let's review briefly what Trump has accomplished. He damaged a Syrian airbase which is now back in service. Syria still has chemical weapons and delivery vehicles to launch more chemical attacks. As a result of this attack and Trump's bluster toward Russia, Trump now admits that Russian US relations are at an all time low.

Trump threats directed at North Korea has put the US on the edge of a nuclear confrontation with North Korea. In an effort to enlist Chinese help, Trump has promised China favorable treatment in a trade deal, assuming China agrees to one and has totally reversed his policy toward China. In just days China is no longer a currency manipulator intent on raping the US and is now a friend to the US even thou they have not done Jack Shit.

All this is in less than a hundred days. Give him 6 months and he'll have us in a war with Russia.

. No, the butt hurt libs will have us in a situation with Russia, and all because they are the ones who have created the situation to date.

 

[Political Junky]

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

We have seen how well that leading from behind policy has worked. You saw who filled the vacuum left when petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama pulled all our troops out of Iraq against the advice of our military who forecast exactly what happened.

So far, it certainly has not been a blunder. The Free World has given him a standing ovation.

As for our relations with Russia. Don't put any credence into what was said, but rather what they DO. Same with China. Saving face is everything with these leaders.

Rex Tillerson's scheduled trip to Russia was not canceled. While a meeting with President Putin was NOT on the agenda, the two, who know each other well, met for TWO HOURS. While the Russian leader was verbose and speaking to the Russians at the joint press conference. Sec. of State Tillerson was concise, direct, to the point and stone-faced. An 180-degree shift from John Kerry who brought James Taylor with him when Kerry was groveling to the French.

As a result of President Trumps meeting with President Xi also has reaped political wins. China abstained rather than voting against the U.S. demand for sanctions against Syria. China has also turned back twelve shiploads of coal being sent to them from North Korea.

These are example of more progress toward tamping down terrorism, removing al-Assad from power in Syria and the little fat guy in North Korea than we've seen in EIGHT YEARS.

Well, let's review briefly what Trump has accomplished. He damaged a Syrian airbase which is now back in service. Syria still has chemical weapons and delivery vehicles to launch more chemical attacks. As a result of this attack and Trump's bluster toward Russia, Trump now admits that Russian US relations are at an all time low.

Trump threats directed at North Korea has put the US on the edge of a nuclear confrontation with North Korea. In an effort to enlist Chinese help, Trump has promised China favorable treatment in a trade deal, assuming China agrees to one and has totally reversed his policy toward China. In just days China is no longer a currency manipulator intent on raping the US and is now a friend to the US even thou they have not done Jack Shit.

All this is in less than a hundred days. Give him 6 months and he'll have us in a war with Russia.

. No, the butt hurt libs will have us in a situation with Russia, and all because they are the ones who have created the situation to date.

LOL, Trump thought we should be friends with Russia, are you nuts?

 

[theHawk]

The 'war' against the Pervert will last 24 hours.
He'll eat a whole MOAB all by himself for lunch and the entire country of Rev. Jim Jones's zombies will stand at attention and die of thirst and starvation.
The NK zombies near the border will throw down their weapons and plead and beg the SK military to allow them to surrender.
Ain't going to happen. Sorry. No room in SK for NK zombies.

I seriously doubt that. North Korea has been at war with the United States for over 60 years. These people are constantly preparing for an invasion.

North Korea is believed to possess more than 1,000 missiles of various models, including (ICBMs), according to the National Committee on North Korea, a non-partisan research coalition. The size of their nuclear arsenal is unknown but we do know that they have nuclear weapons that can be used on short and medium range missiles capable of striking South Korea and Japan. There is also a strong possible that they could hit US territory in the South Pacific and possibly Hawaii. They have over million military personnel on active duty and over 600,000 in reserve. The US DOD estimates that NK has at least 400 operation jet fighters, and an unknown number of bombers but the number exceeds 200. They have a mutual defense treaty with both China and Russia.

Although the US would definitely prevail in a war, any such war would be costly in both loss of life and dollars for both the US and it's allies. If Russia or China became involved, then......

Why the world's superpowers can't stop an aggressive North Korea
Korean People's Army Air Force - Wikipedia
Korean People's Army - Wikipedia

And after bush showed us what we are capable of in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think we want another war.

If we shouldn't have invaded Baghdad we certainly shouldn't invade pyow yang or whatever the capital of north Korea is called.

It turns out Obama was right not weak. We need to stop policing the world. Russia iran and China are fucking with us. We need smart not tough

The options the Trump administration has are quite straight forward.

• Launch a surgical attack on North Korean nuclear and missile facilities. North Korean would almost surely respond, with a attack on South Korea where about 25,000 US military are stationed.
• Do a massive primitive strike on North Korea. This would certain end in a messy ground war.
• Simply acknowledge North Korea, a phone call from Trump offering to sit down and talk it over. This is exactly what Kim Jong Un wants, recognition that North Korea is a major nuclear power. The downside is they will be a recognized as a nuclear power and possible a new cold war will ensue.
• Treat North Korean bluster as we have in the past but seek more stringent sanctions, particular from China, Russia, India, Iran and Pakistan, North Korean's trading partners . This could be the best alternative if the administration has the diplomatic skills to pull it off.

Obama would do the last one and Republicans would call him weak. Trumps going to do exactly what Obama would do.

Yep, Trump criticized Obama for suggesting we respond to an Assad chemical attack. A republican congress refused to give Obama permission to launch such an attack and now they praise Trump for doing what they say Obama should have done.

Trump's attack on Assad and his condemnation of Russia means we will get no help in the Korean crisis from Russia, North Korea's strongest ally. This is what happens when you have no foreign policy, no long term goals, just knee jerk reactions and comments form the supreme leader. Kim Jong Un and Trump would probably get along pretty well since they share the same approach to governing.

Obama never needed Congressional approval to strike Syria after the chemical attack. He ran to the EU and they did nothing. He then ran to Russia and colluded.....I mean made a deal with them. Syria promised to turn over all chemical weapons, and Obama thumped his chest for his amazing diplomatic skills for a peaceful solution.

Of course it was all bullshit and Syria kept their chemical weapons and used them again.

Trump on the other hand knows exactly how to deal with these third world barbarians. Pull out the big stick and wack them over the head.

Kim boi-king is going to back off, he knows Trump isn't bluffing. If he is psychotic enough to start anything, he'll get put in his place. It's refreshing to have a President stand up to these bullies.

 

[beagle9]

Bush, Jr. made it clear he wanted to be a "war president". Trump sees war as a means to get his ratings out of the gutter.

. One minute Trump is dumb as a box of rocks with you people, and then the next minute he's this super evil manipulating genious that is calculating every move. Now which is it ?? Is he dumb or is he a genious that you people are barely able to keep up with ??

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The inevitable body count that follows any election of a conservative.

Oh how they love to send people to kill and die. THEY won't go, but they looove sending others.

If you are a parent of a son or daughter that is in the military and you voted for drumpf? You simply voted to start digging your own child's grave. The pestilence in the White House right now are salivating at the human misery they can now inflict on the world.

You do know that more soldiers have died because of Democrats than Republicans ?

 

[beagle9]

As Trump said recently, he is not president of the world. Yes, the use of chemical weapons is certainly a war crime but it is not the US responsibility to punish war criminals. Although I'm personally glad see retaliation for this horrible attack, I firmly believe that it is a huge diplomatic blunder. It has expanded a crack in US Russian relations into chasm that will not be easily bridged.

We have seen how well that leading from behind policy has worked. You saw who filled the vacuum left when petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama pulled all our troops out of Iraq against the advice of our military who forecast exactly what happened.

So far, it certainly has not been a blunder. The Free World has given him a standing ovation.

As for our relations with Russia. Don't put any credence into what was said, but rather what they DO. Same with China. Saving face is everything with these leaders.

Rex Tillerson's scheduled trip to Russia was not canceled. While a meeting with President Putin was NOT on the agenda, the two, who know each other well, met for TWO HOURS. While the Russian leader was verbose and speaking to the Russians at the joint press conference. Sec. of State Tillerson was concise, direct, to the point and stone-faced. An 180-degree shift from John Kerry who brought James Taylor with him when Kerry was groveling to the French.

As a result of President Trumps meeting with President Xi also has reaped political wins. China abstained rather than voting against the U.S. demand for sanctions against Syria. China has also turned back twelve shiploads of coal being sent to them from North Korea.

These are example of more progress toward tamping down terrorism, removing al-Assad from power in Syria and the little fat guy in North Korea than we've seen in EIGHT YEARS.

Well, let's review briefly what Trump has accomplished. He damaged a Syrian airbase which is now back in service. Syria still has chemical weapons and delivery vehicles to launch more chemical attacks. As a result of this attack and Trump's bluster toward Russia, Trump now admits that Russian US relations are at an all time low.

Trump threats directed at North Korea has put the US on the edge of a nuclear confrontation with North Korea. In an effort to enlist Chinese help, Trump has promised China favorable treatment in a trade deal, assuming China agrees to one and has totally reversed his policy toward China. In just days China is no longer a currency manipulator intent on raping the US and is now a friend to the US even thou they have not done Jack Shit.

All this is in less than a hundred days. Give him 6 months and he'll have us in a war with Russia.

. No, the butt hurt libs will have us in a situation with Russia, and all because they are the ones who have created the situation to date.

LOL, Trump thought we should be friends with Russia, are you nuts?

. Are you so insecure that you think that we are to weak of a people and nation to keep foriegn relations positive with another super power in the world ?? I guess this is what the liberals produce folks... Unsure insecure citizens who think that we should put ourselves and nation behind an iron curtain now. Have we become the Russia of old under liberalist socialist politics ??