BREAKING: Obama's NSA Advisor Susan Rice Requested The Unmaskings Of Incoming Trump Officials

[Faun]

WE now have evidence that there was both legal and illegal surveillance by the Obama administration.

For over a year there was illegal surveillance that had noting to do with Russia.. Since July of last year the legal incidental surveillance was also done.

Rice demanded the unmasking of Trump and his associates. She then had the transcripts of conversations sent out to senior Obama staff and included John Podesta and Farkas in the Clinton campaign because they retained their security clearances.

Rice did not have a warrant to do what she did. So all of what she did was illegal, Reverse targeting Trump and his team.

It was clearly political espionage using US government intelligence assets.

This makes Watergate look like kids play.

LOLOL

You moron, Rice didn't need a warrant. And where's your proof that Farkas retained her security clearance?

She spoke on MSNBC about it

Quote her saying she still had clearance...

 

[Faun]

How do you know that? Even Nunes said it was all legal....

These two things are tied together...that whole Charade that Nunes called last week where he went to the whitehouse to get info then went home, then went back to the whitehouse to tell Trump after a few press conferences before and after.... with his convoluted statements and cloak and dagger actions...

is this information leaked today, by the NSC guy, who is 1 of the guys that was outed that met with Nunes and showed Nunes this classified information.

That whole thing was utterly ridiculous because there was no way the NSC guy who works for the President would give this info to Nunes, without showing the President first, so Nunes going back to the whitehouse to brief the President as if the President didn't know and was not behind this whole fiasco in the first place.... so Trump was playing all of us, using Nunes and ruining Nunes's career over it....

There is NOTHING illegal in what rice did and according to EVERYONE in intelligence community, this is common practice in investigations on foreignrs IF the uscit's identity is necessary to understanding the foreign intelligence being collected.

AND might I say, we do not know if these Trumpsters were unmasked from conversations they had with the Foreign agents, or it could simply be two foreign agents discussing Trump and Trumpsters with each other....but we do know, somehow they ARE INVOLVED with whatever the intel community is investigating.

there is a paper trail, showing the legal means of the unmasking....Trump can get that, if he wants it....instead he wants to distract from the ACTUAL INVESTIGATION on the Russian interference,

and WHAT THE HECK were his people meeting with the Russians or talking to the Russian spies ALL THE TIME for...?

for goodness sake, what is going on with all of these Russian connections?

He just sent all of you on some wild goose chase,
that ends with everything being perfectly legal,
none of the info unmasked ever leaked,
and the Trumpsters involved being in deep do do.

Susan Rice did what you call reverse targeting. This requires a warrant.. She unmasked phone conversation that had NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA and many were with other US CITIZENS.. This violates so many laws it would take me weeks just to name them all.

The bombshell today exposes illegal surveillance and the gross illegal misuse of legal surveillance that requires a warrant.

Rice is going to jail and so are about 10 other people at the top. There isn't a thing legal about what she did.. Then she distributed it.. The leakers are about to have a very bad 30 years..

More unadulterated bullshit. You have no proof Rice distributed anything. Hell, you can't even prove Rice had Flynn's name unmasked.

>>White House lawyers last month discovered that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.<<

Great, now show me where that includes she had Flynn's name unmasked. I'm not saying she didn't, mind you; but I am saying there's been no evidence released that she did.

Sources: Susan Rice behind unmasking of Trump officials - WND.com
www.wnd.com/2017/04/sources-susan-rice-behind-unmasking-of-trump-officials/
12 hours ago - Sources: Susan Rice behind unmasking of Trump officials .... (Flynn resigned after his unmasking was leaked to the press as part of reports that ...
Obama's national security advisor ASKED for 'unmasking' | Daily Mail ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/.../Obama-s-national-security-advisor-ASKED-unmasking.ht...
13 hours ago - Former national security advisor Susan Rice asked dozens of times for the ... Advisor Mike Flynn – were subsequently leaked and made public.
Susan Rice tried to 'unmask' Trump associates in intelligence reports ...
nypost.com/2017/.../susan-rice-tried-to-unmask-trump-associates-in-intelligence-repor...
13 hours ago - Former President Obama's national security adviser SusanRice ... of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of Americans ... Pablo Escobar's Right-Hand Man Admits He'll 'Always Be a Killer'Foxnews.com.
BOMBSHELL: Obama Security Advisor Susan Rice Requested Trump ...
BOMBSHELL: Obama Security Advisor Susan Rice Requested Trump Associates "Unmasked" For Political Purposes...
14 hours ago - Susan Rice, the former U.S. National Security Advisor under Barack Obama, ... “Michael Flynn was unmasked and then illegally his identify was ...

Did you bother to read any of those links?

They state Rice had names unmasked; they state Flynn's name was unmasked...

They do not draw the conclusion that Rice had Flynn's name unmasked. Maybe she did, but you (and billybob) are drawing that conclusion, not the news.

 

[francoHFW]

Susan Rice did what you call reverse targeting. This requires a warrant.. She unmasked phone conversation that had NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA and many were with other US CITIZENS.. This violates so many laws it would take me weeks just to name them all.

The bombshell today exposes illegal surveillance and the gross illegal misuse of legal surveillance that requires a warrant.

Rice is going to jail and so are about 10 other people at the top. There isn't a thing legal about what she did.. Then she distributed it.. The leakers are about to have a very bad 30 years..

More unadulterated bullshit. You have no proof Rice distributed anything. Hell, you can't even prove Rice had Flynn's name unmasked.

>>White House lawyers last month discovered that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.<<

Great, now show me where that includes she had Flynn's name unmasked. I'm not saying she didn't, mind you; but I am saying there's been no evidence released that she did.

Sources: Susan Rice behind unmasking of Trump officials - WND.com
www.wnd.com/2017/04/sources-susan-rice-behind-unmasking-of-trump-officials/
12 hours ago - Sources: Susan Rice behind unmasking of Trump officials .... (Flynn resigned after his unmasking was leaked to the press as part of reports that ...
Obama's national security advisor ASKED for 'unmasking' | Daily Mail ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/.../Obama-s-national-security-advisor-ASKED-unmasking.ht...
13 hours ago - Former national security advisor Susan Rice asked dozens of times for the ... Advisor Mike Flynn – were subsequently leaked and made public.
Susan Rice tried to 'unmask' Trump associates in intelligence reports ...
nypost.com/2017/.../susan-rice-tried-to-unmask-trump-associates-in-intelligence-repor...
13 hours ago - Former President Obama's national security adviser SusanRice ... of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of Americans ... Pablo Escobar's Right-Hand Man Admits He'll 'Always Be a Killer'Foxnews.com.
BOMBSHELL: Obama Security Advisor Susan Rice Requested Trump ...
BOMBSHELL: Obama Security Advisor Susan Rice Requested Trump Associates "Unmasked" For Political Purposes...
14 hours ago - Susan Rice, the former U.S. National Security Advisor under Barack Obama, ... “Michael Flynn was unmasked and then illegally his identify was ...

Did you bother to read any of those links?

They state Rice had names unmasked; they state Flynn's name was unmasked...

They do not draw the conclusion that Rice had Flynn's name unmasked. Maybe she did, but you (and billybob) are drawing that conclusion, not the news.

WTF does unmasked MEAN, dupe? LOL. Americans talking to Russian spies all the time might just be interesting to the NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR. DUHHHH.

 

[Care4all]

WE now have evidence that there was both legal and illegal surveillance by the Obama administration.

For over a year there was illegal surveillance that had noting to do with Russia.. Since July of last year the legal incidental surveillance was also done.

Rice demanded the unmasking of Trump and his associates. She then had the transcripts of conversations sent out to senior Obama staff and included John Podesta and Farkas in the Clinton campaign because they retained their security clearances.

Rice did not have a warrant to do what she did. So all of what she did was illegal, Reverse targeting Trump and his team.

It was clearly political espionage using US government intelligence assets.

This makes Watergate look like kids play.

billy billy billy

Riddle me this,

IF Rice asked for certain foreign intelligence that had listed US PERSON #1 in it, and she needed to know who this US person #1 is and she requested from the intelligence agency head to UNMASK who this US PERSON #1 is,

HOW in the world did she KNOW she was REQUESTING the UNMASKING of a Trump employee when the whole reason for unmasking is because the US PERSON'S Identity was MASKED.

So when she requested the unmasking of the identities of the US PERSON #1 or #2 or #3 etc. she did NOT know they were Trump employees.

 

[Care4all]

here is the ORIGINAL article on this....where every link and article and blog and opinion on this Rice story came from... this is the closest we can get to truth on this subject...the ORIGINAL

Susan Rice Sought Names of Trump Associates in Intel

 

[Spare_change]

WE now have evidence that there was both legal and illegal surveillance by the Obama administration.

For over a year there was illegal surveillance that had noting to do with Russia.. Since July of last year the legal incidental surveillance was also done.

Rice demanded the unmasking of Trump and his associates. She then had the transcripts of conversations sent out to senior Obama staff and included John Podesta and Farkas in the Clinton campaign because they retained their security clearances.

Rice did not have a warrant to do what she did. So all of what she did was illegal, Reverse targeting Trump and his team.

It was clearly political espionage using US government intelligence assets.

This makes Watergate look like kids play.

billy billy billy

Riddle me this,

IF Rice asked for certain foreign intelligence that had listed US PERSON #1 in it, and she needed to know who this US person #1 is and she requested from the intelligence agency head to UNMASK who this US PERSON #1 is,

HOW in the world did she KNOW she was REQUESTING the UNMASKING of a Trump employee when the whole reason for unmasking is because the US PERSON'S Identity was MASKED.

So when she requested the unmasking of the identities of the US PERSON #1 or #2 or #3 etc. she did NOT know they were Trump employees.

As the deputy National Security Adviser, she didn't need to ask for the "unmasking" - because she receives the initial intelligence report BEFORE it is redacted. In fact, her position can authorize the masking. So, she knew the names all along.

Where she messed up is when she ordered the names to be unmasked (within her authority, but done without adequate justification), and then released those names to 17 intelligence agencies who did NOT have authority to see them.

Sorry - but this lady is going down.

In fact, I'm guessing she is the one that Obama will throw under the bus in order to protect the rest of his administration. We should see a news release from obama in about 10 days that expresses shock and dismay that Ms Rice would step so far outside her authority, claim that he had no knowledge whatsoever of what she's done, and is pleased that the investigation was able to uncover the culprit.

She won't be prosecuted - this whole thing will blow over - and we'll go right back to the government spying on the citizens. Whatever makes you think the government is going to give up that kind of power????

 

[JakeStarkey]

You seem sure, Scorpion, that elections don't have consequences.

No repeal and replace.

No tax reform.

No wall.

Intel investigations, FBI investigations, Haley saying Russia is the opposition, McMaster and Tillerson and Mattis and Pence and Ryan's private meetings the last two weeks.

Yup, you really, like Trump, understand what is going on.

It is a four year term.........

And no hope ahead, apparently. Well, maybe Gorsuch, which is good for America, because the Dems will pull the trigger for all legislation the next time they have the Senate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thank you for admitting that Rice broke no law, theBawk.

Trump said Obama 'wire tapped' him.

No has proven anything of the sort.

However, the Trump operatives were legally surveiled, and where they broke the law, they will be convicted and punished.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Alt Right conturds are desperately trying to turn attention away from the Great Orange Criminal himself.

And laughingly failing trying to do it.

You've yet to point which law he has broken.

Running around repeating "collusion" and "influencing an election" aren't proof of anything.

That is up to the DA not you.

Yes, the agencies are investigating "collusion" and "influencing an election."

Yep, it scares you, as well it should.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

As reported in a separate thread, Bloomberg News broke the news that Susan Rice requested to learn the identity of people communicating with Russian agents, and these people turned out to be Trump associates. Not reported in said separate thread is this:
Excerpt:

The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice's unmasking requests were likely within the law.

Susan Rice Sought Names of Trump Associates in Intel

Here is the name of the shitty thread for reference: BREAKING: Obama's NSA Advisor Susan Rice Requested The Unmaskings Of Incoming Trump Officials

So they were spying on the Trump team thinking they could justify it with a technicality.

NO, NOT TRUE

they were investigating/spying on foreign spies/agents/operatives....

Trump's team's involvement with them can only be unmasked if their identities are important and pertinent to the surveillance investigation.

IF there are Trump people that are unmasked for key people, it is because somehow they are INVOLVED in the foreign investigation.

Exactly.
Let's not forget that the Trump team had been under investigation for several months by the time of the transition and these actions by Rice. It was also at the same time the Obama admin was preserving intelligence regarding that investigation. I have no doubt that they went out of their way to ensure it was done properly given the nature of the incoming obfuscator in chief

 

[Care4all]

WE now have evidence that there was both legal and illegal surveillance by the Obama administration.

For over a year there was illegal surveillance that had noting to do with Russia.. Since July of last year the legal incidental surveillance was also done.

Rice demanded the unmasking of Trump and his associates. She then had the transcripts of conversations sent out to senior Obama staff and included John Podesta and Farkas in the Clinton campaign because they retained their security clearances.

Rice did not have a warrant to do what she did. So all of what she did was illegal, Reverse targeting Trump and his team.

It was clearly political espionage using US government intelligence assets.

This makes Watergate look like kids play.

billy billy billy

Riddle me this,

IF Rice asked for certain foreign intelligence that had listed US PERSON #1 in it, and she needed to know who this US person #1 is and she requested from the intelligence agency head to UNMASK who this US PERSON #1 is,

HOW in the world did she KNOW she was REQUESTING the UNMASKING of a Trump employee when the whole reason for unmasking is because the US PERSON'S Identity was MASKED.

So when she requested the unmasking of the identities of the US PERSON #1 or #2 or #3 etc. she did NOT know they were Trump employees.

As the deputy National Security Adviser, she didn't need to ask for the "unmasking" - because she receives the initial intelligence report BEFORE it is redacted. In fact, her position can authorize the masking. So, she knew the names all along.

Where she messed up is when she ordered the names to be unmasked (within her authority, but done without adequate justification), and then released those names to 17 intelligence agencies who did NOT have authority to see them.

Sorry - but this lady is going down.

In fact, I'm guessing she is the one that Obama will throw under the bus in order to protect the rest of his administration. We should see a news release from obama in about 10 days that expresses shock and dismay that Ms Rice would step so far outside her authority, claim that he had no knowledge whatsoever of what she's done, and is pleased that the investigation was able to uncover the culprit.

She won't be prosecuted - this whole thing will blow over - and we'll go right back to the government spying on the citizens. Whatever makes you think the government is going to give up that kind of power????

I seriously doubt she'll be a scapegoat or that she will 'go down' for anything... As national security advisor, there are many reasons unannounced or rather unknown to us that she can have or claim....

This was all leaked to the press by Trump, starting in a very weird and convoluted and clandestine way by Senator Nunes and the President's men in the White House doing this spying of their own in to records that may involve the legal investigation in to the Trump campaign's involvement with the Russian interference going on by the FBI....

 

[Hutch Starskey]

As reported in a separate thread, Bloomberg News broke the news that Susan Rice requested to learn the identity of people communicating with Russian agents, and these people turned out to be Trump associates. Not reported in said separate thread is this:
Excerpt:

The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice's unmasking requests were likely within the law.

Susan Rice Sought Names of Trump Associates in Intel

Here is the name of the shitty thread for reference: BREAKING: Obama's NSA Advisor Susan Rice Requested The Unmaskings Of Incoming Trump Officials

So they were spying on the Trump team thinking they could justify it with a technicality.

NO, NOT TRUE

they were investigating/spying on foreign spies/agents/operatives....

Trump's team's involvement with them can only be unmasked if their identities are important and pertinent to the surveillance investigation.

IF there are Trump people that are unmasked for key people, it is because somehow they are INVOLVED in the foreign investigation.

Really does not matter what Trump team said or who they spoke to.
Leaking of any info is illegal. None of this should have made it to the press, ever.

Obama's EX order the week he left office still does not cover the intel the press published, no matter if it is shared with fellow agencies it should never be leaked

Really does not matter what Trump team said or who they spoke to.

It certainly does. They have been under investigation since July. That is the context in which all of this needs to be viewed.

Leaking of any info is illegal. None of this should have made it to the press, ever.

No doubt. What does any of that have to do with Rice or the Obama admin?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

WE now have evidence that there was both legal and illegal surveillance by the Obama administration.

For over a year there was illegal surveillance that had noting to do with Russia.. Since July of last year the legal incidental surveillance was also done.

Rice demanded the unmasking of Trump and his associates. She then had the transcripts of conversations sent out to senior Obama staff and included John Podesta and Farkas in the Clinton campaign because they retained their security clearances.

Rice did not have a warrant to do what she did. So all of what she did was illegal, Reverse targeting Trump and his team.

It was clearly political espionage using US government intelligence assets.

This makes Watergate look like kids play.

billy billy billy

Riddle me this,

IF Rice asked for certain foreign intelligence that had listed US PERSON #1 in it, and she needed to know who this US person #1 is and she requested from the intelligence agency head to UNMASK who this US PERSON #1 is,

HOW in the world did she KNOW she was REQUESTING the UNMASKING of a Trump employee when the whole reason for unmasking is because the US PERSON'S Identity was MASKED.

So when she requested the unmasking of the identities of the US PERSON #1 or #2 or #3 etc. she did NOT know they were Trump employees.

As the deputy National Security Adviser, she didn't need to ask for the "unmasking" - because she receives the initial intelligence report BEFORE it is redacted. In fact, her position can authorize the masking. So, she knew the names all along.

Where she messed up is when she ordered the names to be unmasked (within her authority, but done without adequate justification), and then released those names to 17 intelligence agencies who did NOT have authority to see them.

Sorry - but this lady is going down.

In fact, I'm guessing she is the one that Obama will throw under the bus in order to protect the rest of his administration. We should see a news release from obama in about 10 days that expresses shock and dismay that Ms Rice would step so far outside her authority, claim that he had no knowledge whatsoever of what she's done, and is pleased that the investigation was able to uncover the culprit.

She won't be prosecuted - this whole thing will blow over - and we'll go right back to the government spying on the citizens. Whatever makes you think the government is going to give up that kind of power????

Where she messed up is when she ordered the names to be unmasked (within her authority, but done without adequate justification), and then released those names to 17 intelligence agencies who did NOT have authority to see them.

Who says?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

>>One U.S. official familiar with the reports said they contained valuable political information on the Trump transition such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration.<<

>>President Obama's former national security advisor Susan Rice requested dozens of times for anonymous U.S. persons featured in intelligence reports and connected to Donald Trump to be “unmasked”<<

This was not about national security, it was political. Hillary had already lost. Dems are more interested in impeaching Trump on any pretext than the truth. Pure politics.

Pure speculation.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So the unmasking wasn't illegal then?

Well lets show you just how retarded you are..

Did she have a warrant to do so?

The answer is NO.. SO the unmasking was illegal especially when she then had it distributed to over thirty people to include Hillary Clinton's staff.

Well lets show you just how retarded you are..

Did she have a warrant to do so?

Well done!
You just showed your own intellectual difficulties.

Is a warrant needed?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So the unmasking wasn't illegal then?

How did your twisted mind come to that conclusion?

If you were to read the actual conversation that my post was a part of, you may find the answer to your own question.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So the unmasking wasn't illegal then?

Well lets show you just how retarded you are..

Did she have a warrant to do so?

The answer is NO.. SO the unmasking was illegal especially when she then had it distributed to over thirty people to include Hillary Clinton's staff.

>>Susan Rice requested dozens of times for anonymous U.S. persons featured in intelligence reports and connected to Donald Trump to be “unmasked”<<

>>intelligence reports that Rice was seeking to unmask contained “valuable political information” about the Trump transition<<

This was not about national security. This was about Trump. She had no business unmasking any of it.

Yep, nothing to see here folks. The Trump people were not a part of a counterintelligence investigation involving the entire intelligence community.
Rice and Obama just did this purely out of political avarice while they were wrapping up their political careers.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

for all the left anti-trump conspiracy with russia loons..............

Do explain why it is wrong for Trump and team to have any contact with russia or other foreign governments but not for Hillary and Co.

Why is it fine for Podesta to take $35 millions (1 billion rubles) from Russia but Trump is the one somehow colluding with Russia?

Why is unmasking and leaking OK, but if Trump suspects he or his team was illegally taped he should be impeached?

Could you be any more hypocritical?

Do explain why it is wrong for Trump and team to have any contact with russia or other foreign governments but not for Hillary and Co.

It's not about right or wrong. It's about pertinence. The Trump campaign was part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It is within that context that you need to view this. Any president's National Security Adviser has every right to remain up to date on intelligence matters.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Access on the intelligence on foreigners where Trump people were incidentally caught, and their unmasking was pertinent to understanding the surveilance of the foreigners....

it is ALL LEGAL and above board.

Who is the NSC guy that leaked this Story on Rice....will he be arrested for leaking it?

Somebody leaked a story on Rice.

She has done nothing illegal......right ?

The same Trump staffer who gave Nunes the Intel also went public with this information on Rice.
It's coming from the Trump admin. They're trying to obfuscate and drive the narrative in a direction other than their investigation.

 

[Markle]

This was all leaked to the press by Trump, starting in a very weird and convoluted and clandestine way by Senator Nunes and the President's men in the White House doing this spying of their own in to records that may involve the legal investigation in to the Trump campaign's involvement with the Russian interference going on by the FBI....