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[Carl in Michigan]

This is true, we do need to counter the ideology of Islam. Islam should be rejected, rediculed, and opposed at every turn. Unfortunately progressives will stand with Islam until the end, they have chosen the enemy of Western culture. Thus, progressivism should also be rejected and opposed at every turn as well.

At least liberalism is working with us on this.

They kill their own children. They're working hard for the right to kill their elderly and the sick. They propose laws that help the liberal minorities to kill each other off.

Yeah, liberals are supporting the policies that will eventually wipe themselves out.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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We did? We make the laws in Europe now?

And we are the ones standing up for the Bill of Rights while frightened little children are willing to give up their civil rights with both shaking with fear hands. Are you one of them?

Did you attend 4th grade?

George C. Marshall - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

And WHEN have you EVER stood up for the bill of rights? Do you even GRASP that rights accrue to individuals? Yes, you promote group privilege and group supremacy. Yes, you support LGBT imposing it's will on individuals, because the group is favored by the Reich.

I have NEVER seen you stand up for the 1st. When the Little Sisters of the Poor were denied their 1st Amendment rights, you opposed them and the 1st. When Hobby Lobby was denied their 1st Amendment rights, you opposed them and the 1st. When Sweet Cakes by Melissa was denied their 1st Amendment rights, you opposed them and the 1st. When Citizens United was denied their 1st Amendment rights, you opposed them and the 1st.

You have a flawless record of staunch opposition to any and all civil rights on this board. You think group privilege is superior to individual rights. You support crushing the individual to further the political power of the group, every last time.

 

[Marion Morrison]

All Muslims in Japan are under surveillance:
Japan has ruled to spy on all Muslims – after living there, this is no surprise


There is no such thing as a foreign Muslim citizen of Japan, the only Muslim citizens of Japan are converts, death to Islam, Je Suis Breivik!

So...you are recommending that all muslims be put under surveillance....put listening devices in homes....places of business...mosques...?

That's what needs to be done. I bet more than 50% of the mosques in America get closed.

So....you throw away the Bill of Rights with both shaking hands.

STFU.

18 U.S. Code § 2331 - Definitions

"involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;"


Perfectly legal. They don't even have to know they're being monitored.

Why do you want people to shut up? Can't handle debate? Does that frighten you too?

No, but your "throw away the Bill of Rights" comment is laughable at best.

What's the 4th amendment, Bodey? Nevermind, Uncensored already said it all.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

 

[bodecea]

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What what do you propose that would be legal and not effect the rights and liberties of innocent people? You can't declare war on a belief or idea.

Really? We declared war on Nazism and won. Of course we didn't have as many traitors in our midst at that time.

We declared war on Germany....but only after they declared war on us......and after years of us rejecting refugees from their war.

And?

We also OUTLAWED Nazism in all of Europe.

We had a will to win, and people like you were thrown in prison for sedition, so the 5th Column was not fucking us up from the rear the way you fascists democrats are doing now,

Lets outlaw ISIS.

I believe it already is. It's a terrorist organization like the IRA, like the Red Brigade, like the Weathermen, like Baader and Meinhof.

 

[bodecea]

[

Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

No it isn't. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia

 

[Carl in Michigan]

ISIS IS practicing MudHamMud approved Islam

 

[leftwinger]

Say you have herd of cattle. Something is getting in and killing some of them, more frequently every week. You have a good idea who or what it is.

A. Plug hole in fence (s). Improve weak spots.
B. Try to trap it, kill it.
C. Follow it back to its' lair, kill all of them.
D. 24 hour watch? Can you afford extra cost?
E. Do nothing.
F. Buy replacement cattle.
G. Move entire operation to another spot.

Or, you will be put out of cattle business.

Are you proposing, in C. that you kill all muslims - an entire family, man woman child?

How about the family of other killers?

H. Force those found in the lair to re-locate where they could not harm your cattle.

If you got known repeat problem, you address it pronto. Else little problems become big problems.

 

[bodecea]

So...you are recommending that all muslims be put under surveillance....put listening devices in homes....places of business...mosques...?

That's what needs to be done. I bet more than 50% of the mosques in America get closed.

So....you throw away the Bill of Rights with both shaking hands.

STFU.

18 U.S. Code § 2331 - Definitions

"involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;"


Perfectly legal. They don't even have to know they're being monitored.

Why do you want people to shut up? Can't handle debate? Does that frighten you too?

No, but your "throw away the Bill of Rights" comment is laughable at best.

What's the 4th amendment, Bodey?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

[Coyote]

[

Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

Nazi's are standard Christianity. Let's outlaw Christianity. I can play the fallacy game as well.

On the other hand, instead of demonizing entire groups - it might be more effective to deal with the actual problem wreaking carnage on Muslims and non-Muslims alike: ISIS.

 

[Coyote]

Say you have herd of cattle. Something is getting in and killing some of them, more frequently every week. You have a good idea who or what it is.

A. Plug hole in fence (s). Improve weak spots.
B. Try to trap it, kill it.
C. Follow it back to its' lair, kill all of them.
D. 24 hour watch? Can you afford extra cost?
E. Do nothing.
F. Buy replacement cattle.
G. Move entire operation to another spot.

Or, you will be put out of cattle business.

Are you proposing, in C. that you kill all muslims - an entire family, man woman child?

How about the family of other killers?

H. Force those found in the lair to re-locate where they could not harm your cattle.

If you got known repeat problem, you address it pronto. Else little problems become big problems.

So are you saying we should expel the families of all killers?

 

[bodecea]

ISIS IS practicing MudHamMud approved Islam

By their own interpretation......just like the Westboro Church is practicing JeSus approved christianity by their own interpretation.

 

[Coyote]

Lets outlaw ISIS.

So you propose outlawing a religious cult?

No. I propose outlawing a known terrorist group that has been involved in a number of killing, attacks, and war.

I thought that was clear.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

No it isn't. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia

ISIL is not ISIS - despite the lies you fascists tell.

FURTHER, you didn't read your own link, you fucking retard;

{
ISIL is a theocracy, proto-state[98][99][100] and a Salafi or Wahhabi group.[12][101][102] It follows an extremist interpretation of Islam, promotes religious violence, and regards Muslims who do not agree with its interpretations as infidels or apostates.[9] According to Hayder al Khoei, ISIL's philosophy is represented by the symbolism in the Black Standard variant of the legendary battle flag of Prophet Muhammad that it has adopted: the flag shows the Seal of Muhammad within a white circle, with the phrase above it, "There is no god but God".[103] Such symbolism has been said to point to ISIL's belief that it represents the restoration of the caliphate of early Islam, with all the political, religious and eschatological ramifications that this would imply.[104]

According to some observers, ISIL emerged from the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood, the first post-Ottoman Islamist group dating back to the late 1920s in Egypt.[105] It adheres to global jihadist principles and follows the hard-line ideology of al-Qaeda and many other modern-day jihadist groups.[4][9] However, other sources trace the group's roots to Wahhabism.

For their guiding principles, the leaders of the Islamic State ... are open and clear about their almost exclusive commitment to the Wahhabi movement of Sunni Islam. The group circulates images of Wahhabi religious textbooks from Saudi Arabia in the schools it controls. Videos from the group's territory have shown Wahhabi texts plastered on the sides of an official missionary van.

— David D. Kirkpatrick, The New York Times[13]
According to The Economist, dissidents in the ISIL capital of Raqqa report that "all 12 of the judges who now run its court system ... are Saudis". Saudi practices also followed by the group include the establishment of religious police to root out "vice" and enforce attendance at salat prayers, the widespread use of capital punishment, and the destruction or re-purposing of any non-Sunni religious buildings.[106] Bernard Haykel has described ISIL leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's creed as "a kind of untamed Wahhabism".[13]

ISIL aims to return to the early days of Islam, rejecting all innovations in the religion, which it believes corrupts its original spirit. It condemns later caliphates and the Ottoman Empire for deviating from what it calls pure Islam, and seeks to revive the original Wahhabi project of the restoration of the caliphate governed by strict Salafist doctrine. Following Salafi-Wahhabi tradition, ISIL condemns the followers of secular law as disbelievers, putting the current Saudi Arabian government in that category.[44]

Salafists such as ISIL believe that only a legitimate authority can undertake the leadership of jihad, and that the first priority over other areas of combat, such as fighting non-Muslim countries, is the purification of Islamic society. For example, ISIL regards the Palestinian Sunni group Hamas as apostates who have no legitimate authority to lead jihad and see fighting Hamas as the first step toward confrontation by ISIL with Israel.[13][107]}

 

[leftwinger]

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Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

Nazi's are standard Christianity. Let's outlaw Christianity. I can play the fallacy game as well.

On the other hand, instead of demonizing entire groups - it might be more effective to deal with the actual problem wreaking carnage on Muslims and non-Muslims alike: ISIS.

Sure. Boko-haRem? Hammas? Al-Quidea? Muslim Bro? On and on. Islam just pop up another name.

 

[Marion Morrison]

[

Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

Nazi's are standard Christianity. Let's outlaw Christianity. I can play the fallacy game as well.

On the other hand, instead of demonizing entire groups - it might be more effective to deal with the actual problem wreaking carnage on Muslims and non-Muslims alike: ISIS.

"From an early age, historian Allan Bullock writes, Hitler "had no time at all for Catholic teaching, regarding it as a religion fit only for slaves and detesting its ethics.""

"Moreover, Hitler's anti-Semitism was not religious, it was racial. Jews were targeted not because of their religion — indeed many German Jews were completely secular in their way of life — but because of their racial identity. This was an ethnic and not a religious designation. Hitler's anti-Semitism was secular."

The difference between Nazism and Islam is not very much.

Both want to kill Jews and all those that don't believe as they do.

Hitler allied with the Muslims during WW2.
HITLER & ISLAM — Adolf Hitler, Islam & Muslim Nazi Troops (Photos)


Bad analogies you used there.


Was Hitler a Christian?

 

[Coyote]

[

Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

Nazi's are standard Christianity. Let's outlaw Christianity. I can play the fallacy game as well.

On the other hand, instead of demonizing entire groups - it might be more effective to deal with the actual problem wreaking carnage on Muslims and non-Muslims alike: ISIS.

Sure. Boko-haRem? Hammas? Al-Quidea? Muslim Bro? On and on. Islam just pop up another name.

Boko is part of ISIS. All are terrorist groups. So again - let's outlaw Christianity because the Nazi's (and KKK, and LRA) are supposedly Christian.

Then again, let's just outlaw the terrorist groups instead of engage in practices that create and fortify terrorist groups.

 

[leftwinger]

Say you have herd of cattle. Something is getting in and killing some of them, more frequently every week. You have a good idea who or what it is.

A. Plug hole in fence (s). Improve weak spots.
B. Try to trap it, kill it.
C. Follow it back to its' lair, kill all of them.
D. 24 hour watch? Can you afford extra cost?
E. Do nothing.
F. Buy replacement cattle.
G. Move entire operation to another spot.

Or, you will be put out of cattle business.

Are you proposing, in C. that you kill all muslims - an entire family, man woman child?

How about the family of other killers?

H. Force those found in the lair to re-locate where they could not harm your cattle.

If you got known repeat problem, you address it pronto. Else little problems become big problems.

So are you saying we should expel the families of all killers?

Repeat problem offenders from same nest? Of course. Eliminate the enablers.

Or do nothing? If most Americans don't care, as you don't why should I work to protect you or your Children. Put on your red-Burka Roxanne.

 

[Coyote]

[

Lets outlaw ISIS.

ISIS is standard Sunni Islam.

So you are the one saying that Islam should be outlawed.

Nazi's are standard Christianity. Let's outlaw Christianity. I can play the fallacy game as well.

On the other hand, instead of demonizing entire groups - it might be more effective to deal with the actual problem wreaking carnage on Muslims and non-Muslims alike: ISIS.

"From an early age, historian Allan Bullock writes, Hitler "had no time at all for Catholic teaching, regarding it as a religion fit only for slaves and detesting its ethics.""

"Moreover, Hitler's anti-Semitism was not religious, it was racial. Jews were targeted not because of their religion — indeed many German Jews were completely secular in their way of life — but because of their racial identity. This was an ethnic and not a religious designation. Hitler's anti-Semitism was secular."


Was Hitler a Christian?

Kind of my point - Nazi's are to Christianity what ISIS is to Islam.

 

[Coyote]

Say you have herd of cattle. Something is getting in and killing some of them, more frequently every week. You have a good idea who or what it is.

A. Plug hole in fence (s). Improve weak spots.
B. Try to trap it, kill it.
C. Follow it back to its' lair, kill all of them.
D. 24 hour watch? Can you afford extra cost?
E. Do nothing.
F. Buy replacement cattle.
G. Move entire operation to another spot.

Or, you will be put out of cattle business.

Are you proposing, in C. that you kill all muslims - an entire family, man woman child?

How about the family of other killers?

H. Force those found in the lair to re-locate where they could not harm your cattle.

If you got known repeat problem, you address it pronto. Else little problems become big problems.

So are you saying we should expel the families of all killers?

Repeat problem offenders from same nest? Of course. Eliminate the enablers.

Or do nothing? If most Americans don't care, as you don't why should I work to protect you or your Children. Put on your red-Burka Roxanne.

So eliminate due process?

Kill the innocents on the basis of what others do?

That sounds familiar.