Ray From Cleveland
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Christians believe in the fight against evil. Outside of the New Testament, God ordered the slaughter of evil people. Inside the New Testament, it was taught not to challenge evil with violence, but it never taught to submit to violence either. Every human being should have the right to protect themselves which is why the gun laws have changed so dramatically in this country. And since that time, violent crime and gun murders have been on a steady decline.
Uh, guy, we have the highest homicide rates in the industrialized world because guns are too easy to get.
And yeah, God ordered the slaughter of gays, foreigners, women who had sex, people who worked on the sabbath and a whole bunch of "evils" we don't fucking murder people for today.
Point is, the Gun Fetish is not a Christian Issue.
Hey Joe, do you like driving your car? Do you like affordable gasoline, oil, and all the byproducts made with oil like car tires, roof shingles, asphalt roads, driveways and bike paths? Then we have to be involved in the middle-east, because those oil companies need oil to create products you depend on every day.
Uh, no we could just pay those people a fair wage for their natural resources. Or we could take the 900 Billion we spend a year playing Hall Monitor of the Hormuz and invest it into mass transit, then we wouldn't need so much gasoline. (Most of the oil from the Middle East ends up in China, Japan and Europe, not the US, BTW.)
No, we don't HAVE to be involved in the middle east.
As for Iran, we don't have to do squat. We could have kept their money as long as we liked just like all the Presidents before DumBama. Iran is going to get nuclear weapons in the near future and your big-eared leader did nothing but sign an agreement with them saying they won't build those weapons until after he's out of office, and they are going to use the money DumBama gave them to advance their goals.
Again, no, we couldn't have kept the money. The international courts ruled against us. As far as the Iran deal goes, it's going to keep Iran from getting nukes for at least a decade.
I should also point out that the Jews have been telling us the Iranians are going to get nukes any minute now for 20 years.
Trump made his money building a lot of things and hiring a lot of people. What did the Clinton's build besides a mound of lies?
Guy, stop changing the subject. The primary source of Trump's income is promoting vice- sexuality through his pagents and gambling through his casinos.
And yet this is the guy "Christians" are getting behind, because except for the Mormons, you guys have no principles.
Guy, stop changing the subject. The primary source of Trump's income is promoting vice- sexuality through his pagents and gambling through his casinos.
And yet this is the guy "Christians" are getting behind, because except for the Mormons, you guys have no principles.
Like I said, Trump is no saint and nobody ever claimed him to be. But when it comes to religious people, he's much closer to their values than Democrats. The last debate Hillary clearly voiced her support for abortion damn near right up to birth. Christians really look down on that--much more than somebody who made money from talent shows, casinos and golf courses.
Again, no, we couldn't have kept the money. The international courts ruled against us. As far as the Iran deal goes, it's going to keep Iran from getting nukes for at least a decade.
I should also point out that the Jews have been telling us the Iranians are going to get nukes any minute now for 20 years.
They have a lot to fear. What if we were at war with Canada who vowed to wipe the US off the face of the earth, and some powerhouse country supported them getting nuclear weapons? You bet we'd have to take some sort of action. I can't blame the Jews for being fearful.
Uh, no we could just pay those people a fair wage for their natural resources. Or we could take the 900 Billion we spend a year playing Hall Monitor of the Hormuz and invest it into mass transit, then we wouldn't need so much gasoline. (Most of the oil from the Middle East ends up in China, Japan and Europe, not the US, BTW.)
No, we don't HAVE to be involved in the middle east.
Really? So how do you make the argument for oil companies since we get our oil elsewhere? After all, the US is the biggest consumer of oil products.
As for mass transit, nobody wants it. It would be money wasted away like what happened in California. What moron would choose to wait for a train, board it with hundreds of strangers, sit in a confined seat next to the fat guy who snores, compared to just starting your car and driving it to where you need to go.
If there were any money in mass transportation.....any money at all, you wouldn't need governments constantly subsidizing it. Private industry would have cornered the market years ago.
Uh, guy, we have the highest homicide rates in the industrialized world because guns are too easy to get.
And yeah, God ordered the slaughter of gays, foreigners, women who had sex, people who worked on the sabbath and a whole bunch of "evils" we don't fucking murder people for today.
Point is, the Gun Fetish is not a Christian Issue.
Never said it was. Remember you were the one to insert guns into the Christian argument.
We have the highest homicide rate in the world because our prisons were liberalized years ago. We are also a multi-cultured country unlike many others. Blacks are the most violent people in our country. Take them out of the picture and you would have a much lower violent crime rate. Many don't have fear of going to prison, and certainly not the death penalty because it never takes place until 15, 18, 22 years after the sentence. And of course there are states that outlawed capital punishment to boot.