Brexit busted.

[Unkotare]

You are a fuckwit. Tell me who the establishment is ?

Bitter...?

Very.

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

Tragic?????

 

[Unkotare]

Bitter...?

Very.

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

= Stuck on denial.

 

[HenryBHough]

Alas, Tainted Tommy (sorry to see the common nickname for British soldiers so abused), The EU has knickers all in a twist and enjoying their hissy threat so thoroughly that Britain is FREE and is going to stay FREE whether, in future, it might wish to or not. Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat spurned.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Very.

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

= Stuck on denial.

Perhaps you might ask an adult to help you form an argument. At the moment you support the public not having the facts.

 

[Decus]

Bitter...?

Very.

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

Once Article 50 is activated a deal has to be completed within 2 years, if not:

"If no deal is reached, membership will automatically cease two years after notification"

Brexit referendum: EU ministers press UK for quick exit - BBC News

Hard to imagine that the 27 remaining EU countries would be willing to allow the UK a second referendum.

.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Alas, Tainted Tommy (sorry to see the common nickname for British soldiers so abused), The EU has knickers all in a twist and enjoying their hissy threat so thoroughly that Britain is FREE and is going to stay FREE whether, in future, it might wish to or not. Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat spurned.

Free is a concept that you do not understand.
People will not enjoy their "freedom" when they are signing on the dole.

 

[gipper]

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

= Stuck on denial.

Perhaps you might ask an adult to help you form an argument. At the moment you support the public not having the facts.

Hey Limey, get your fat ass to bed. Its late and your cognitive abilities have failed you once again.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Very.

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

Once Article 50 is activated a deal has to be completed within 2 years, if not:

"If no deal is reached, membership will automatically cease two years after notification"

Brexit referendum: EU ministers press UK for quick exit - BBC News

Hard to imagine that the 27 remaining EU countries would be willing to allow the UK a second referendum.

.

Its unprecedented.But they wont want to lose the UK and will do what it takes.

 

[HenryBHough]

Once Article 50 is activated a deal has to be completed within 2 years, if not:

"If no deal is reached, membership will automatically cease two years after notification"

Brexit referendum: EU ministers press UK for quick exit - BBC News

Hard to imagine that the 27 remaining EU countries would be willing to allow the UK a second referendum.

.

The reading I've done, and in the last days I've read a hell of a lot of British press, confirms that Article 50 must be activated within two years but that only (in this instance) Britain can activate it. True there is all sorts of scurrying about to try to find a way to force activation but none yet has been found (as of this writing).

 

[MaryL]

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

Once Article 50 is activated a deal has to be completed within 2 years, if not:

"If no deal is reached, membership will automatically cease two years after notification"

Brexit referendum: EU ministers press UK for quick exit - BBC News

Hard to imagine that the 27 remaining EU countries would be willing to allow the UK a second referendu

.

Its unprecedented.But they wont want to lose the UK and will do what it takes.

I support the English, and if they want out, that is OK. It might hurt my 401k and the market, But I am ok with that. I really wished the UK had stayed in the EU. But I will stick with them, whatever.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

Once Article 50 is activated a deal has to be completed within 2 years, if not:

"If no deal is reached, membership will automatically cease two years after notification"

Brexit referendum: EU ministers press UK for quick exit - BBC News

Hard to imagine that the 27 remaining EU countries would be willing to allow the UK a second referendu

.

Its unprecedented.But they wont want to lose the UK and will do what it takes.

I support the English, and if they want out, that is OK. It might hurt my 401k and the market, But I am ok with that. I really wished the UK had stayed in the EU. But I will stick with them, whatever.

It is now clear that the out campaign was a pack of lies. That cant be right.

 

[Decus]

I will believe in the Second Coming of Christ - arriving on a pink Harley wearing an Elvis costume before I will accept the possibility of Ulster reuniting with Catholic, priest-ridden Ireland.

An independent Ireland is too tempting even for a Protestant politician.

"The combined economies of Northern Ireland and the Republic could grow by more than €30bn if Ireland reunified, with the bulk of the benefits accruing north of the border, according to a highly speculative new report."

Report proposes €30bn benefit from Irish reunification - FT.com

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[Tommy Tainant]

I will believe in the Second Coming of Christ - arriving on a pink Harley wearing an Elvis costume before I will accept the possibility of Ulster reuniting with Catholic, priest-ridden Ireland.

An independent Ireland is too tempting even for a Protestant politician.

"The combined economies of Northern Ireland and the Republic could grow by more than €30bn if Ireland reunified, with the bulk of the benefits accruing north of the border, according to a highly speculative new report."

Report proposes €30bn benefit from Irish reunification - FT.com

.

I cant see that happening anytime soon.More likely to see a resumption of sectarian violence. Lets hope that we have shit weather this summer.

 

[Unkotare]

Well, you respect that your fellow subjects have spoken or you don't. Consider carefully the conclusion if you don't.

Its a process. The Brexit camp have already admitted that two of their main campaign planks were "misunderstood".
Firstly that money saved by brexit would support the NHS. That aint gonna happen.
Nigel Farage disowns Vote Leave '£350m for the NHS pledge' hours after EU referendum result

Secondly that the levels of immigration would fall. Again they have backtracked on that.
EU referendum: No promise of immigration drop - Nigel Evans MP - BBC News

When the brexit negotiations start it will become apparent how bad a deal it is for the UK. The government, whoever it is will be forced to go back to the country and say "this is the actual deal, do you still want it ?"

If there is no deal cut inside two years then british manufacturers will automatically face 12% tariffs when exporting to Europe. Why would Eurpean countries offer us better terms than that unless we knuckle down and accept the EU terms.

So you can have decent terms if you allow free movement and all the other stuff that the brexiteers hate.

Or you can pay through the nose and see jobs lost.

The reality of that will focus minds more than the fantasy weaved by the brexiters.

The former would be the status quo, the latter would be a disaster.

A second vote is inevitable.

"You cant always get what you want"

The facts are that:

• Wales voted in favour of leaving the EU
• England voted in favour of leaving the EU
  
• Scotland voted in favour of staying in the EU and may now vote for independence and seek membership in the EU
  
• Northern Ireland voted in favour of staying in the EU and could reunite with the Republic of Ireland and remain in the EU

There will be no second referendum and Great Britain may have to change its name to reflect the fact that only two countries remain in the "United Kingdom" .......England and Wales.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

.

There will have to be a second referendum. The consequences of Brexit will be so grim that the public will need to be consulted.

= Stuck on denial.

Perhaps you might ask an adult to help you form an argument. At the moment you support the public not having the facts.

Having trouble accepting reality? You poor thing.

 

[montelatici]

Ireland is in line for receiving most of the companies and investment that went to the UK to be in the EU. Unless Scotland exits and has a quick EU entry, maybe inheriting the UK's, Ireland, being the only English speaking country in the EU, will gain great benefits. NI, Catholic and Protestant, will take that into consideration. Of course, if Scotland exists quick enough, they will have to share.

 

[MaryL]

Well, I disagree with and agree with it too Tommy. My take away is people don't like being dictated to by a minority of whatever group. There is a revolution going on here. Listen to us.

 

[montelatici]

Well, I disagree with and agree with it too Tommy. My take away is people don't like being dictated to by a minority of whatever group. There is a revolution going on here. Listen to us.

What minority was that? The problem is the English want it their way and believed their small minority should control the other 400 million Europeans. The empire is gone, so up your's English. The EU will go on and may have a new member, Scotland. NI will merge with Ireland who will receive much of the companies and investment that was going to the UK. Sadly, the progressive and more educated English and Welsh are the losers.

 

[Unkotare]

The problem is the English want it their way and believed their small minority should control the other 400 million Europeans. ......

That is obviously not the case, you dishonest douche.

 

[montelatici]

The problem is the English want it their way and believed their small minority should control the other 400 million Europeans. ......

That is obviously not the case, you dishonest douche.

That is exactly the case, you asshole.

 

[Unkotare]

The problem is the English want it their way and believed their small minority should control the other 400 million Europeans. ......

That is obviously not the case, you dishonest douche.

That is exactly the case, you asshole.

OK bigmouth,

The problem is the English want it their way and believed their small minority should control the other 400 million Europeans. ......

That is obviously not the case, you dishonest douche.

That is exactly the case, you asshole.

Wrong, idiot