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[The Rabbi]

And as a real portion of their income in real realistic dollars which buy things like food, medicine and clothing, $2k is a lot more to someone who only makes $13k to begin with than $2m is to someone who makes $13m and has the option of stashing most of it overseas.

It's still 15% for both of them. You can try to pretend otherwise all you want, you're just going to make yourself look like a bigger moron than you already have.

Is that even possible?
He started by misrepresenting what the Flat Tax is. Now he's arguing that somehow one dollar is different for different people. And he's called you (or someone) an idiot. Then he wrote that the rich (whoever they are) could afford more, like he knows their budgets. Or anything about them.
He is a total class warfare clown.

 

[The Rabbi]

Here is trickle down economics in a nutshell:

1) Set up the system to make rich people and corporations....a whole lot richer.
2) Just TRUST your company or boss to then raise your pay.

Just trust 'em guys, it'll work!

So, you don't understand it. Too bad I don't have time to educate you on it.

Try this book:

I wish I could send a copy of that book to every idiot lefty who posts on these boards. But then I'd have to hire a tutor to explain it to them. Then a doctor to sedate them once it sinks in how stupid they've been.

 

[boilermaker55]

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

^^Low information/Low Intelligence poster who thinks "The Man" is keeping him down. Couldn't define "trickle down economics" if his life depended on it.

 

[boilermaker55]

From previous post.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

These mentally challenged marxist occutards are barely suitable to fill civil servant positions....have productive citizens support them

 

[The Rabbi]

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

^^Low information/Low Intelligence poster who thinks "The Man" is keeping him down. Couldn't define "trickle down economics" if his life depended on it.

No, the stats are irrelevant. What is the "right" proportion? How do you know?
There isn't one. The market for CEOs is very competitive. Not many people can function at that level much less succeed. If they do, they will earn millions--billions of dollars for their shareholders and employees. How much is a person who can earn billions for a company worth?

 

[The Rabbi]

These mentally challenged marxist occutards are barely suitable to fill civil servant positions....have productive citizens support them

They are dealing with concepts and situations so far beyond their capabilities they literally do not get it. They think being a CEO means sitting around in a suit and playing golf every day at 4. They have absolutely no idea what is involved and the pressure CEOs deal with.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

go back and watch post #65....CEO pay is connected to Wall Street....guess who is feeding Wall Street....?

 

[boilermaker55]

Mere words do not dispute the facts. Again, nothing to say to refute only your opinion.
And again, you leave out the factor that the workers do assist in the money earned by the company/corporation. Something those like you leave out continuously.

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

^^Low information/Low Intelligence poster who thinks "The Man" is keeping him down. Couldn't define "trickle down economics" if his life depended on it.

No, the stats are irrelevant. What is the "right" proportion? How do you know?
There isn't one. The market for CEOs is very competitive. Not many people can function at that level much less succeed. If they do, they will earn millions--billions of dollars for their shareholders and employees. How much is a person who can earn billions for a company worth?

 

[boilermaker55]

What the hell does that mean?
It has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

go back and watch post #65....CEO pay is connected to Wall Street....guess who is feeding Wall Street....?

 

[The Rabbi]

Mere words do not dispute the facts. Again, nothing to say to refute only your opinion.
And again, you leave out the factor that the workers do assist in the money earned by the company/corporation. Something those like you leave out continuously.

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

No, the stats are irrelevant. What is the "right" proportion? How do you know?
There isn't one. The market for CEOs is very competitive. Not many people can function at that level much less succeed. If they do, they will earn millions--billions of dollars for their shareholders and employees. How much is a person who can earn billions for a company worth?

The facts aren't in dispute, moron. Do you have any idea even what you are arguing about?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Wealth trickles up from minimum wage workers and community organizing politicians....Lol

 

[rightwinger]

So you're saying that a poor person who scrapes by on a little more than a thousand dollars each month will not be put in any more of a desperate financial situation if they pay they same tax rate as someone who owns four mansions and a private jet?

You're saying that someone who owns four mansions and a private jet should pay the same tax rate as someone barely scraping by on a little more than a thousand dollars each month?

As a percentage of their income, 15% is a lot more to a poor person than it is to a rich person.

Equality in treatment.. blind to situation and other subjective bullshit

Because your subjective bullshit is what got us to this problem in the first place

if he thinks 15% of the poor person's income is too much....all that has to be done is lower the flat rate.....say to 5%......

so then the question really becomes.....how much government is really needed....? this is a question that big government lefties do not want to answer.........

We don't need an arbitrary big government or small government....we need a right sized government for our societies needs

That decision is made by the voters

 

[The T]

Wealth trickles up from minimum wage workers and community organizing politicians....Lol

And funneled through the UNIONS.

 

[zeke]

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

^^Low information/Low Intelligence poster who thinks "The Man" is keeping him down. Couldn't define "trickle down economics" if his life depended on it.

No, the stats are irrelevant. What is the "right" proportion? How do you know?
There isn't one. The market for CEOs is very competitive. Not many people can function at that level much less succeed. If they do, they will earn millions--billions of dollars for their shareholders and employees. How much is a person who can earn billions for a company worth?

Rabbit, where did you learn that statistics are irrelevant? Was that when you had your college edumacation?

Did your edumacation also make it possible for you to determine how much money is to little? I mean, minimum wage is to much (for some) and billions not enough (for others)

How did you come to that conclusion? How do you determine that a CEO who had his friends on the Board of Directors to approve his pay plan was doing it correctly. Maybe the CEO should have been asking for billions more. Maybe he wasn't worth the millions he was being paid, but got his millions anyway. Then he would vote for his friends when he sits on their corporations Board of Directors so that they get their millions or billions or whatever.

Didn't they teach you in your school that the rich wash each others backs quite regularly.
You know, they look out for each other interests. And help each other when they can. Hang out at the same country clubs. Go to the same Ivy league schools. Have the same brokers, go to the Hamptons, etc etc. They are plutocrats you know. They kinda of have their own little rich persons union.

You didn't get a very good edumacation did you. Is that why you had one but now you don't? Isn't it nice that there are people that come here every day and try to edumacate you. But if fucking don't work.

Is that why you had one (education) but gave it up? Because you became a Republican? And lets face it, that (being a Republican) don't take much in the way of edumacation.
Hell, look around at your circle of "friends". Barely literate, most of them. And they've got the same education as you. Whats that tell you?

 

[zeke]

Hey rabbit. I was wondering. You always post as "Rabbi". Is that because you lent out the "T" to the "T" wack job? That dude makes you look sane sometimes.

T. Give the rabbi back his T. He's missing i(t).

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Equality in treatment.. blind to situation and other subjective bullshit

Because your subjective bullshit is what got us to this problem in the first place

if he thinks 15% of the poor person's income is too much....all that has to be done is lower the flat rate.....say to 5%......

so then the question really becomes.....how much government is really needed....? this is a question that big government lefties do not want to answer.........

We don't need an arbitrary big government or small government....we need a right sized government for our societies needs

That decision is made by the voters

yes indeed.....and my bet is that in an equal tax system tax payers would vote for a smaller government....i.e. a smaller tax rate.....and the bloated welfare system would shrink....

 

[boilermaker55]

Still waiting for you to dispute the facts.
Which, by the post you put up in response, will not happen all you do is scream to make your point.
Childish behavior.
Please do not respond unless you reach some higher level of maturity.

Mere words do not dispute the facts. Again, nothing to say to refute only your opinion.
And again, you leave out the factor that the workers do assist in the money earned by the company/corporation. Something those like you leave out continuously.

No, the stats are irrelevant. What is the "right" proportion? How do you know?
There isn't one. The market for CEOs is very competitive. Not many people can function at that level much less succeed. If they do, they will earn millions--billions of dollars for their shareholders and employees. How much is a person who can earn billions for a company worth?

The facts aren't in dispute, moron. Do you have any idea even what you are arguing about?

 

[boilermaker55]

All he can do is resort to childish behavior.

Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker
Gaping Inequality: CEO Earns 1,795 Times The Average Worker - Careers Articles
But someone like rabbi will say these figures are pulled out of the sky.
10. Yum Brands Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-819 ($20.4 million CEO pay vs. $24,913 worker pay)
8. Nike Inc. -- pay ratio of 1-1,050 ($35.2 million CEO pay vs. $33,550 worker pay)
1. J.C. Penney Co. -- pay ratio of 1-1,795 ($53.3 million CEO pay vs. $29,688 worker pay)
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report
Now! Refute the statistics.

No, the stats are irrelevant. What is the "right" proportion? How do you know?
There isn't one. The market for CEOs is very competitive. Not many people can function at that level much less succeed. If they do, they will earn millions--billions of dollars for their shareholders and employees. How much is a person who can earn billions for a company worth?

Rabbit, where did you learn that statistics are irrelevant? Was that when you had your college edumacation?

Did your edumacation also make it possible for you to determine how much money is to little? I mean, minimum wage is to much (for some) and billions not enough (for others)

How did you come to that conclusion? How do you determine that a CEO who had his friends on the Board of Directors to approve his pay plan was doing it correctly. Maybe the CEO should have been asking for billions more. Maybe he wasn't worth the millions he was being paid, but got his millions anyway. Then he would vote for his friends when he sits on their corporations Board of Directors so that they get their millions or billions or whatever.

Didn't they teach you in your school that the rich wash each others backs quite regularly.
You know, they look out for each other interests. And help each other when they can. Hang out at the same country clubs. Go to the same Ivy league schools. Have the same brokers, go to the Hamptons, etc etc. They are plutocrats you know. They kinda of have their own little rich persons union.

You didn't get a very good edumacation did you. Is that why you had one but now you don't? Isn't it nice that there are people that come here every day and try to edumacate you. But if fucking don't work.

Is that why you had one (education) but gave it up? Because you became a Republican? And lets face it, that (being a Republican) don't take much in the way of edumacation.
Hell, look around at your circle of "friends". Barely literate, most of them. And they've got the same education as you. Whats that tell you?

 

[initforme]

Another useless thread pointing out the obvious. Of course the system is going to benefit the rich. They have the money. They have the influence. They have the power to protect theirs. The average working guy doesn't. And never will. So he might as well get over it and accept it. The only chance he has is a higher education in which he can learn a skill in which he can use it against his employers by moving on when most needed. That's what capitalism is founded on. Capitalism is founded on those who have the big money to invest and make more. It is what it is. The rich shall get richer and the poor will remain poor and if they are willing to work really hard they might get into the middle class. What is the bunk is when you hear someone say well if you are really willing to work so hard you have a chance to become wealthy. Yes there are a few success stories but all in all the odds are slim to none. But one can have a decent quality of life by working hard and that is the most the average person can hope for... barely making it by. Any other lines of total rhetoric to protect the system are just that.... garbage. It is what it is. Accept it. Move on. Work hard. Have a cold one when you can. The system has nothing to do with the so called American dream. That is a fallacy. Always has been though.