Bush's Lies Caused The Iraq War

[KNB]

You're a lying sack of shit, the Army and Marines found difference caches of WMDs.

Scum like you said it didn't count because it was "out-dated." Oh my bad....a psycho fuck shit eater like you doesn't even think it even existed.

Your knowledge about Saddam and IAEA connections is as deep as your knowledge of WMD "found" in Iraq.

What WMD? Yellowcake that couldn't be weaponized? An old bombed-out factory with stockpiles of old leaking canisters of rotten chemicals that can't be used to make WMD in the back of a 1986 Toyota pick-up?

Why did Obama leave so many WMD in Iraq? And a much better question is, why did Bush leave so many WMD in Iraq? Wasn't that the purpose of invading Iraq in the first place?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Wow, you seriously need some xanax or a rubber room. lol

LOL fucking DERP! LOL! More Americans died in Iraq over Bush's lies than died on 9/11 which Iraq wasn't involved with. Fucking LOL! Hooray for constant war over lies!

The Bush administration lied, you stupid talking monkeys. They lied. The proof is there. Stop responding, stop trying to be right, and just read. What I want and need is some JUSTICE in this shitbrick country. While your big government wants to throw me in a cage for using the only medicine that keeps me from going into convulsions, your big government is also lying to the world and torturing POWs in an endless bullshit war like we're a nation of mongrels straight out of 1984.

It doesn't matter what Clinton said because Clinton was a liar, too. How many of you Republicans here don't think so? The GOP impeached Clinton for lying about a blowjob, so do you think that Clinton told the truth about Iraq? Bush lied about Iraq, regardless of anything said by anyone else on Earth.

I doesn't matter what you rant on and on and on about...
Unless you can show that the administration knew what they said was untrue -- which you cannot -- your allegations are false.

 

[KNB]

Maybe you should post a primary source rather than a Wiki interpretation.

Here you go:

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB328/II-Doc14.pdf

 

[depotoo]

One month, 7 day's after the start of the war-
Al Qaeda Operative Busted In Iraq - CBS News
ByJAIME HOLGUINCBSApril 27, 2003, 12:43 PM

Al Qaeda Operative Busted In Iraq

...Documents discovered recently in the bombed out headquarters of Iraq's intelligence service provide evidence of a direct link between Saddam Hussein's regime and bin Laden's terrorist network, a newspaper reported Sunday.*Papers found Saturday by journalists working for the Sunday Telegraph reveal that an al Qaeda envoy met with officials in Baghdad in March 1998, the newspaper reported.The paper said the documents show that the purpose of the meeting was to establish a relationship between Baghdad and al Qaeda based on their mutual hatred of the United States and Saudi Arabia.*The meeting went so well that it was extended by a week and ended with arrangements being discussed for bin Laden to visit Baghdad, the newspaper said.

President Bush could not have gotten the support of Congress without lying to them about intelligence reports and Saddam's connections to al Qaeda the way he did in his State of the Union Address on live TV in front of the whole nation and world.

So, in you mind he couldn't be wrong he had to have been lying. Even though all of Congress had access to the same intel. Even though Hillary said exactly the same things and she had a direct line to the ex-president? Who even said the same things as Bush.

It is those with BDS that are making up lies.

Holy crap, Bush stood up in front of the whole friggin world on January 28, 2003 and said Saddam was supporting and connected to al Qaeda when all his intelligence agencies told him otherwise. It was a blatant lie made two months before the Iraq invasion. Everybody saw it live. It was the friggin STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS in front of the ENTIRE CONGRESS, SUPREME COURT AND BROADCAST BY EVERY MAJOR NEWS ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD. You can watch it on video. It's available all over the net. Even youtube has it. I've posted the link several times.

 

[KNB]

It doesn't matter what you rant on and on and on about...
Unless you can show that the administration knew what they said was untrue -- which you cannot -- your allegations are false.

What good is it to post links to declassified government documents that prove my point if you're not going to click on them and read the information?

"Unless you can show blah blah blah then you're a lying liberal liar."

Go back to the very first post in this thread and click on each of those links, and when you see links on those pages, click on those, and click on the links on those pages, and so on. Read the evidence from the Bush administration itself or stop talking about things that you don't know anything about.

I made it simple for you because I know how Conservatives are.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It doesn't matter what you rant on and on and on about...
Unless you can show that the administration knew what they said was untrue -- which you cannot -- your allegations are false.

What good is it to post links to declassified government documents that prove my point if you're not going to click on them and read the information?

None of the dcouments you posted show that the administration knew what they said was wrong.

Disagree?

Cite the text that shows otherwise -- assuming you know how to copy/paste.

 

[healthmyths]

You've got that right. Pretty low class of you to be joking about it.

There is no evidence Bush lied. But you keep pedaling THAT lie.

He absolutely lied about the wmds.

I absolutely want YOU to refute what then these Democrats DID ........many BEFORE Bush became President.

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998 DID CLINTON LIE?
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998 DID BIDEN LIE?
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998 DASCHLE did he lie?
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998 Berger he LIED then TEN times!
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998 How about Senator LEVIN did he LIE??
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999

"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.


I just don't know HOW you people BLAMING BUSH can ignore the above many BEFORE BUSH!!!

 

[KNB]

One month, 7 day's after the start of the war-
Al Qaeda Operative Busted In Iraq - CBS News
ByJAIME HOLGUINCBSApril 27, 2003, 12:43 PM

Al Qaeda Operative Busted In Iraq

...Documents discovered recently in the bombed out headquarters of Iraq's intelligence service provide evidence of a direct link between Saddam Hussein's regime and bin Laden's terrorist network, a newspaper reported Sunday.*Papers found Saturday by journalists working for the Sunday Telegraph reveal that an al Qaeda envoy met with officials in Baghdad in March 1998, the newspaper reported.The paper said the documents show that the purpose of the meeting was to establish a relationship between Baghdad and al Qaeda based on their mutual hatred of the United States and Saudi Arabia.*The meeting went so well that it was extended by a week and ended with arrangements being discussed for bin Laden to visit Baghdad, the newspaper said.

The next paragraph:

That report appears to contradict another claim of Powell's — that "going back to the early and mid-1990s when bin Laden was based in Sudan, an al Qaeda source tells us that Saddam and bin Laden reached an understanding that al Qaeda would no longer support activities against Baghdad."

That contact would have predated the 1998 meeting, which was intended to establish a relationship.

So three years passed from this meeting until 9/11. How many more meetings were there between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden? A big fat zero? Wow, what a revelation.

Hussein and bin Laden were not friends. bin Laden hated Saddam Hussein for killing Muslims, and Saddam Hussein hated bin Laden because bin Laden was more popular than him. None of that changes the fact that the Bush administration's own declassified government documents prove that the intelligence on Iraq's WMD capabilities was doctored to justify Bush's invasion in 2003.

 

[peach174]

No weapons of mass destruction huh?

On-the-Run Terrorist Group ISIS Seizes Non-Existent Stockpile of WMDs in the ‘Over’ Iraq War

Give it up, that dog don't hunt.

In other words, Fantasy World real, real World Fantasy.

 

[TheJedi]

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Hubris-Inside-Story-Scandal-Selling/dp/030734682X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403369434&sr=8-1&keywords=hubris]Amazon.com: Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War (9780307346827): Michael Isikoff, David Corn: Books[/ame]

This book tells the whole story quite succinctly. For the 10 bucks, it's worth it. They pushed for a war on unsubstantiated claims many of whom came from very unreliable sources. They were looking for any excuse to justify an incursion. Joe Wilson flatly told them before the incursion that he found no evidence to support the yellowcake claims. Then there was Curveball who's testimony was dismissed by the intelligence community because he was unreliable yet it was included in the report to justify going into Iraq. There is a whole litany of irrefutable proof outside of those two examples that all these "reports" were mostly fabricated and stitched together to make a shaky case for the incursion.

 

[1776]

You're a waste of O2.

You're a lying sack of shit, the Army and Marines found difference caches of WMDs.

Scum like you said it didn't count because it was "out-dated." Oh my bad....a psycho fuck shit eater like you doesn't even think it even existed.

Your knowledge about Saddam and IAEA connections is as deep as your knowledge of WMD "found" in Iraq.

What WMD? Yellowcake that couldn't be weaponized? An old bombed-out factory with stockpiles of old leaking canisters of rotten chemicals that can't be used to make WMD in the back of a 1986 Toyota pick-up?

Why did Obama leave so many WMD in Iraq? And a much better question is, why did Bush leave so many WMD in Iraq? Wasn't that the purpose of invading Iraq in the first place?

 

[KNB]

It doesn't matter what you rant on and on and on about...
Unless you can show that the administration knew what they said was untrue -- which you cannot -- your allegations are false.

What good is it to post links to declassified government documents that prove my point if you're not going to click on them and read the information?

None of the dcouments you posted show that the administration knew what they said was wrong.

Disagree?

Cite the text that shows otherwise -- assuming you know how to copy/paste.

You haven't read shit and you know it. And it doesn't matter if you do read it because you're not going to understand it.

The Defence Secretary said that the US had already begun “spikes of activity” to put pressure on the regime. No decisions had been taken, but he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections. The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran.

We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justifi cation for the use of force.
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB328/II-Doc14.pdf

The Phase II report on Bush administration public statements, in conjunction with the SSCI’s original July 2004 report on Iraq’s alleged Weapons of Mass Destruction, indicates that political manipulation extended beyond the intelligence itself to affect investigation of the intelligence failures on Iraq as well as the Bush administration’s use of that information.
In conjunction with other recently declassified materials, the Phase II report shows that the Bush administration solicited intelligence then used to “substantiate” its public claims.
A recently declassified draft of the CIA’s October 2002 white paper on Iraqi WMD programs demonstrates that that paper long pre-dated the compilation of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi capabilities.
The timing of the CIA’s draft white paper coincides with a previously available draft of the British Government’s white paper on Iraqi WMD, demonstrating that the Bush administration and the Tony Blair government began acting in concert to build support for an invasion of Iraq two to three months earlier than previously understood.
A comparison of the CIA draft white paper with its publicly released edition shows that all the changes made were in the nature of strengthening its charges against Iraq by inserting additional alarming claims, in the manner of an advocacy, or public relations document. The draft and final papers show no evidence of intelligence analysis applied to the information contained. Similar comparison of the British white paper shows the same phenomenon at work.
Declassified Pentagon documents demonstrate that the CIA white paper was modified in ways that conformed to the desires of the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy and his office, in much the same way that British documents indicate that country’s white paper was changed to conform to the desires of the Blair government.
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD

CIA Whites Out Controversial Estimate on Iraq Weapons
The Record on CURVEBALL

 

[KNB]

You're a waste of O2.

Stop typing. Read Bush's declassified government documents that prove that he lied to invade Iraq.

 

[Camp]

Invasion of Iraq, The Secret Downing Street Memo: ?Intelligence and Facts were being Fixed? | Global Research

This is the word for word Downing Street Memo that was used to make the charges that the USA (Bush administration) fixed intelligence from Great Britain.

 

[peach174]

Amazon.com: Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War (9780307346827): Michael Isikoff, David Corn: Books

This book tells the whole story quite succinctly. For the 10 bucks, it's worth it. They pushed for a war on unsubstantiated claims many of whom came from very unreliable sources. They were looking for any excuse to justify an incursion. Joe Wilson flatly told them before the incursion that he found no evidence to support the yellowcake claims. Then there was Curveball who's testimony was dismissed by the intelligence community because he was unreliable yet it was included in the report to justify going into Iraq. There is a whole litany of irrefutable proof outside of those two examples that all these "reports" were mostly fabricated and stitched together to make a shaky case for the incursion.

Does the book explain why one of Saddam's top military leaders must have lied when he said the WMD's were transported to Syria before the invasion?
He wrote his own book and said it several years after we went to war in Iraq. He also had no contact with Bush's administration.

 

[KNB]

Does the book explain why one of Saddam's top military leaders must have lied when he said the WMD's were transported to Syria before the invasion?

Is that a serious question? Do you actually believe that Saddam Hussein secretly shipped his WMD, the reason for Bush going to war, into Syria before the invasion, with the CIA, IAEA, MI6, Pakistan's ISI, and every other intelligence network being ENTIRELY unaware of it?

Do you really think that Saddam Hussein was that smart? Do you really think that George W. Bush was that dumb?

 

[TheIceMan]

WE sold the precursors for the WMDs to Saddam under the name "dual-use equipment" and the CIA taught his people how to make them better.

Links you once could find on google that mysteriously have disappeared must be under control of the IRS.



Revisionist history changes the facts not at all.

 

[Camp]

Amazon.com: Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War (9780307346827): Michael Isikoff, David Corn: Books

This book tells the whole story quite succinctly. For the 10 bucks, it's worth it. They pushed for a war on unsubstantiated claims many of whom came from very unreliable sources. They were looking for any excuse to justify an incursion. Joe Wilson flatly told them before the incursion that he found no evidence to support the yellowcake claims. Then there was Curveball who's testimony was dismissed by the intelligence community because he was unreliable yet it was included in the report to justify going into Iraq. There is a whole litany of irrefutable proof outside of those two examples that all these "reports" were mostly fabricated and stitched together to make a shaky case for the incursion.

Does the book explain why one of Saddam's top military leaders must have lied when he said the WMD's were transported to Syria before the invasion?
He wrote his own book and said it several years after we went to war in Iraq. He also had no contact with Bush's administration.

It just doesn't matter how many links to how many articles from how many different countries from how many time frames. It doesn't matter how many video's of Bush and his crew lying as they stare right into the camera or face to face with reporters. Entire books have been written about the lies. Documentaries have been made about the lies. Still, the brainwashed will continue to ask silly and/or stupid questions.

 

[Dayton3]

The OP is ridiculous and contains worse lies than the Bush Admin. has ever been accused of.

The Bush Admin. wanted to eliminate the Hussein regime from the moment they took office.

That was OFFICIAL U.S. POLICY and had been since Clinton's second term.

How hard is that to understand?

 

[KNB]

The OP is ridiculous and contains worse lies than the Bush Admin. has ever been accused of.

The Bush Admin. wanted to eliminate the Hussein regime from the moment they took office.

That was OFFICIAL U.S. POLICY and had been since Clinton's second term.

How hard is that to understand?

And they lied to do it. Stop typing and read the DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.

Bush lied, Cheney lied, Rumsfeld lied, Powell lied, Wolfowitz lied, Rice lied, Tenet lied. They fucking lied. Stop trying to be right, stop trying to blame anyone else. The Bush administration's own paperwork shows that they LIED to invade Iraq in 2003. The paperwork is there for you to read. Stop typing and read.