Can any conservative answer this?

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You know what I find funny about all these tax stories. Trump claims when he gets elected he will fix the tax code, which has clearly benefitted him and his ilk. His surrogates call him a genius when it comes out he didn't pay his fair, or more likely any share of his due. So tell me conservatives why do you guys feel. One he represents the average man and two do you truly believe he'll do anything to harm his own bottom line if he gets elected?Trump’s Claim of $916 Million Loss Shows He’s a ‘Genius’: Rudy Giuliani

He represents the average man because the average man also tries to minimize his tax burden as much as possible. Any who claim otherwise are liars or fools.
On your second question I don't know.

Right, everyone wants to pay as little as they can- but that's where any similarity ends Bubba.

How Donald Trump Turned the Tax Code Into a Giant Tax Shelter
Common Sense

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/b...ackage-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Now we know: Donald J. Trump racked up losses so huge in the early 1990s that he wouldn’t have had to pay federal or New York State income tax on nearly a billion dollars in income.

None of this seems to have made the slightest dent in Mr. Trump’s opulent lifestyle over the years. At the nadir of his personal financial crisis in the early 1990s, his lenders put him on a monthly “budget” of $450,000 in personal expenses — more than enough to sustain his lifestyle of lavish homes, private jets, country clubs and golf courses — even as he was using the tax code to avoid paying any federal income tax.

It’s hard to imagine a starker contrast with the vast number of Americans who struggle to both pay taxes and make ends meet, or a more damning indictment of a tax code that makes that possible.

“If it wasn’t clear before, it is now: The tax code is tilted toward the rich in its statutory framework, its exceptions, and in how it is enforced and administered,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a real estate tax specialist and senior fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.

He does not represent the average person. Any who claims otherwise are liars or fools.

He is like every other person. The fools are the ones that elevate him to some mythic status because of his money. He's rich, so what? Envy is an ugly trait.

The thing I find hilarious is that so many people judge the rich for perceived financial injustices but your congress persons are the ones creating the tax code & laws. They spin a tale about how the rich are your enemies and you idiots gobble it up like candy.

Grampa, I'm guessing you didn't notice but it's Trump who says he'll change the tax code because it's unfair. So if anybody is propagating that myth, like you call it it's Trump himself.

Like Clinton, Trump will say whatever it takes to win. Just like nearly every other wind bag before them.

 

[theHawk]

He's not in politics at all, that's why he is an outsider. He isn't bought off already like everyone else.

I personally don't give to much thought about the tax code. If he and Congress change it, great. But we have bigger issues like Islamists blowing people up and our trade policies, and we need to get out of the Middle East and stop the course we are on to war with Russia.

He isn't bought of? Maybe not, but I don't think being the person who does the buying of is actually an improvement.History of Donald Trump's political donations - Ballotpedia
As to your second bit. If you look for Trump to be the savior on national security it would be nice to actually have some indication he has any type of plan to address these issues.

I don't know that Trump will be a savior with national security, but I do know Hillary will be a complete failure with it.

Trump would give a green light to Russia to invade eastern Europe, does not understand why we can't use our nukes preemptively, has already alienated valued allies, is feared by national security experts for his utter ignorance of diplomacy and world affairs, but Clinton would be the "complete failure" Really Bubba?

How or why would Trump give the green light to Russia to invade Eastern Europe? Any countries specifically?

Why? I guess you have not been paying attention to the fact that several current and former aides to Trump have business interests in Russia and the pro Russian Ukraine government. Trump himself may have benefited from those dealings. Russia and Trump stand to benefit further if those business interests can be expanded -by force if necessary -into other countries. I do not trust that bastard to put America's interest ahead of his own or of his pal Putin

How? You know how.

Trump "may have" ..?

That's the best you got?

 

[forkup]

You know what I find funny about all these tax stories. Trump claims when he gets elected he will fix the tax code, which has clearly benefitted him and his ilk. His surrogates call him a genius when it comes out he didn't pay his fair, or more likely any share of his due. So tell me conservatives why do you guys feel. One he represents the average man and two do you truly believe he'll do anything to harm his own bottom line if he gets elected?Trump’s Claim of $916 Million Loss Shows He’s a ‘Genius’: Rudy Giuliani

He represents the average man because the average man also tries to minimize his tax burden as much as possible. Any who claim otherwise are liars or fools.
On your second question I don't know.

Right, everyone wants to pay as little as they can- but that's where any similarity ends Bubba.

How Donald Trump Turned the Tax Code Into a Giant Tax Shelter
Common Sense

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/b...ackage-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Now we know: Donald J. Trump racked up losses so huge in the early 1990s that he wouldn’t have had to pay federal or New York State income tax on nearly a billion dollars in income.

None of this seems to have made the slightest dent in Mr. Trump’s opulent lifestyle over the years. At the nadir of his personal financial crisis in the early 1990s, his lenders put him on a monthly “budget” of $450,000 in personal expenses — more than enough to sustain his lifestyle of lavish homes, private jets, country clubs and golf courses — even as he was using the tax code to avoid paying any federal income tax.

It’s hard to imagine a starker contrast with the vast number of Americans who struggle to both pay taxes and make ends meet, or a more damning indictment of a tax code that makes that possible.

“If it wasn’t clear before, it is now: The tax code is tilted toward the rich in its statutory framework, its exceptions, and in how it is enforced and administered,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a real estate tax specialist and senior fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.

He does not represent the average person. Any who claims otherwise are liars or fools.

He is like every other person. The fools are the ones that elevate him to some mythic status because of his money. He's rich, so what? Envy is an ugly trait.

The thing I find hilarious is that so many people judge the rich for perceived financial injustices but your congress persons are the ones creating the tax code & laws. They spin a tale about how the rich are your enemies and you idiots gobble it up like candy.

Grampa, I'm guessing you didn't notice but it's Trump who says he'll change the tax code because it's unfair. So if anybody is propagating that myth, like you call it it's Trump himself.

Like Clinton, Trump will say whatever it takes to win. Just like nearly every other wind bag before them.

Then we agree.

 

[Clementine]

Hillary and her supporters also benefit big time with the current tax laws and yet she wants to raise taxes. It's not because she wants to start paying her fair share, she just needs middle class to pay up so she and her cronies can get breaks.

Trump would likely reduce government spending to lower taxes, which is the best way.

Liberals in Washington do nothing but sit around and look for more way to spend. Then they claim they can't give senior citizens on Social Security a cost of living raise and there are still veterans dying in the waiting line for care. Yet, they have billions to waste on relocating radicals to our country and paying for illegal aliens.

If Trump lost that much money, of course it means tax breaks. I'm sure Hillary and Bill got some breaks when they left the WH flat broke. Of course, selling some of the stuff they stole when they left the WH might have bought in a few bucks.

 

[forkup]

I put my 2 questions very clearly I think.
1- Why do you feel and this is something he says he is. An outsider, someone who will represent the average American since he's not part of the political establishment. When it's very clear that the tax code as it is greatly benefits him?
2- Why do you feel, if he gets elected he will, again like he claims will change that same tax code?

He's not in politics at all, that's why he is an outsider. He isn't bought off already like everyone else.

I personally don't give to much thought about the tax code. If he and Congress change it, great. But we have bigger issues like Islamists blowing people up and our trade policies, and we need to get out of the Middle East and stop the course we are on to war with Russia.

He isn't bought of? Maybe not, but I don't think being the person who does the buying of is actually an improvement.History of Donald Trump's political donations - Ballotpedia
As to your second bit. If you look for Trump to be the savior on national security it would be nice to actually have some indication he has any type of plan to address these issues.

I don't know that Trump will be a savior with national security, but I do know Hillary will be a complete failure with it.

Trump would give a green light to Russia to invade eastern Europe, does not understand why we can't use our nukes preemptively, has already alienated valued allies, is feared by national security experts for his utter ignorance of diplomacy and world affairs, but Clinton would be the "complete failure" Really Bubba?

How or why would Trump give the green light to Russia to invade Eastern Europe? Any countries specifically?

Sure. Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania. Trump has openly questioned NATO. These States used to be a part of the Soviet Union. They are now however become part of NATO. Putin has proven himself not to be above invading sovereign nations. Especially if he considers them part of the old USSR. If you openly question NATO you leave a huge door open for him to test NATO's resolve.
https://www.ft.com/content/81fb4056-c32e-11e4-ac3d-00144feab7de
Russia launches Baltic drills alongside NATO Saber Strike war games

 

[Votto]

You know what I find funny about all these tax stories. Trump claims when he gets elected he will fix the tax code, which has clearly benefitted him and his ilk. His surrogates call him a genius when it comes out he didn't pay his fair, or more likely any share of his due. So tell me conservatives why do you guys feel. One he represents the average man and two do you truly believe he'll do anything to harm his own bottom line if he gets elected?Trump’s Claim of $916 Million Loss Shows He’s a ‘Genius’: Rudy Giuliani

I don't think either. No such candidate could win the nomination in either party.

Next question.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

He isn't bought of? Maybe not, but I don't think being the person who does the buying of is actually an improvement.History of Donald Trump's political donations - Ballotpedia
As to your second bit. If you look for Trump to be the savior on national security it would be nice to actually have some indication he has any type of plan to address these issues.

I don't know that Trump will be a savior with national security, but I do know Hillary will be a complete failure with it.

Trump would give a green light to Russia to invade eastern Europe, does not understand why we can't use our nukes preemptively, has already alienated valued allies, is feared by national security experts for his utter ignorance of diplomacy and world affairs, but Clinton would be the "complete failure" Really Bubba?

How or why would Trump give the green light to Russia to invade Eastern Europe? Any countries specifically?

Why? I guess you have not been paying attention to the fact that several current and former aides to Trump have business interests in Russia and the pro Russian Ukraine government. Trump himself may have benefited from those dealings. Russia and Trump stand to benefit further if those business interests can be expanded -by force if necessary -into other countries. I do not trust that bastard to put America's interest ahead of his own or of his pal Putin

How? You know how.

Trump "may have" ..?

That's the best you got?

No it's not "the best"

trump business interests in russia - Bing

 

[theHawk]

I don't know that Trump will be a savior with national security, but I do know Hillary will be a complete failure with it.

Trump would give a green light to Russia to invade eastern Europe, does not understand why we can't use our nukes preemptively, has already alienated valued allies, is feared by national security experts for his utter ignorance of diplomacy and world affairs, but Clinton would be the "complete failure" Really Bubba?

How or why would Trump give the green light to Russia to invade Eastern Europe? Any countries specifically?

Why? I guess you have not been paying attention to the fact that several current and former aides to Trump have business interests in Russia and the pro Russian Ukraine government. Trump himself may have benefited from those dealings. Russia and Trump stand to benefit further if those business interests can be expanded -by force if necessary -into other countries. I do not trust that bastard to put America's interest ahead of his own or of his pal Putin

How? You know how.

Trump "may have" ..?

That's the best you got?

No it's not "the best"

trump business interests in russia - Bing

Lame, Trump has done business all over the world. There is no connection to Putin at all.

But you libs want war with Russia. Can't let a country that doesn't fall in line with the globalist Agenda go unpunished.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Trump would give a green light to Russia to invade eastern Europe, does not understand why we can't use our nukes preemptively, has already alienated valued allies, is feared by national security experts for his utter ignorance of diplomacy and world affairs, but Clinton would be the "complete failure" Really Bubba?

How or why would Trump give the green light to Russia to invade Eastern Europe? Any countries specifically?

Why? I guess you have not been paying attention to the fact that several current and former aides to Trump have business interests in Russia and the pro Russian Ukraine government. Trump himself may have benefited from those dealings. Russia and Trump stand to benefit further if those business interests can be expanded -by force if necessary -into other countries. I do not trust that bastard to put America's interest ahead of his own or of his pal Putin

How? You know how.

Trump "may have" ..?

That's the best you got?

No it's not "the best"

trump business interests in russia - Bing

Lame, Trump has done business all over the world. There is no connection to Putin at all.

But you libs want war with Russia. Can't let a country that doesn't fall in line with the globalist Agenda go unpunished.

We want war with Russia? That is so fucking stupid that Trump would not even say that. There goes the last shred of your credibility.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Hillary and her supporters also benefit big time with the current tax laws and yet she wants to raise taxes. It's not because she wants to start paying her fair share, she just needs middle class to pay up so she and her cronies can get breaks.

Trump would likely reduce government spending to lower taxes, which is the best way.

Liberals in Washington do nothing but sit around and look for more way to spend. Then they claim they can't give senior citizens on Social Security a cost of living raise and there are still veterans dying in the waiting line for care. Yet, they have billions to waste on relocating radicals to our country and paying for illegal aliens.

If Trump lost that much money, of course it means tax breaks. I'm sure Hillary and Bill got some breaks when they left the WH flat broke. Of course, selling some of the stuff they stole when they left the WH might have bought in a few bucks.

They have to be alive to vote.

 

[Siete]

Can any conservative answer this?






Trump's full of shit.

 

[LaDexter]

And Hillary is wonderful, honest, and not greedy or selfish at all.

Thanks, Democrats....

 

[Grizz]

How or why would Trump give the green light to Russia to invade Eastern Europe? Any countries specifically?

Why? I guess you have not been paying attention to the fact that several current and former aides to Trump have business interests in Russia and the pro Russian Ukraine government. Trump himself may have benefited from those dealings. Russia and Trump stand to benefit further if those business interests can be expanded -by force if necessary -into other countries. I do not trust that bastard to put America's interest ahead of his own or of his pal Putin

How? You know how.

Trump "may have" ..?

That's the best you got?

No it's not "the best"

trump business interests in russia - Bing

Lame, Trump has done business all over the world. There is no connection to Putin at all.

But you libs want war with Russia. Can't let a country that doesn't fall in line with the globalist Agenda go unpunished.

We want war with Russia? That is so fucking stupid that Trump would not even say that. There goes the last shred of your credibility.

Huh, that must be why Barry The Magic Negro is letting Puti do whatever he wants.

 

[theHawk]

How or why would Trump give the green light to Russia to invade Eastern Europe? Any countries specifically?

Why? I guess you have not been paying attention to the fact that several current and former aides to Trump have business interests in Russia and the pro Russian Ukraine government. Trump himself may have benefited from those dealings. Russia and Trump stand to benefit further if those business interests can be expanded -by force if necessary -into other countries. I do not trust that bastard to put America's interest ahead of his own or of his pal Putin

How? You know how.

Trump "may have" ..?

That's the best you got?

No it's not "the best"

trump business interests in russia - Bing

Lame, Trump has done business all over the world. There is no connection to Putin at all.

But you libs want war with Russia. Can't let a country that doesn't fall in line with the globalist Agenda go unpunished.

We want war with Russia? That is so fucking stupid that Trump would not even say that. There goes the last shred of your credibility.

Then why are you idiots so afraid of Trump having an actual dialogue with Russia, as opposed to Obama's tactic of insult and escalate? And why is Obama building up the largest military force in Eastern Europe since the Cold War?

 

[oreo]

Trump is no genius. He had a legitimate business right off in 1995 for 916 million in loss's.

But what this really says Is that all of his business's, the golf courses, all of the hotels, all the casinos, & every single business he claims to own (all waded together) have failed to produce 916 million in revenues over the last 18 years to offset the 1995 year loss. And that's the astounding part of all of this. This while Trump brags about a 10 billion net worth, which is now very questionable.

Many business's have had a bad year and will write off a loss. But a well managed business will come back, and make profits to offset the loss's in one or two years. 18 Years & Trump and his business's didn't do that. Trump is still peeling off that 916 million dollar loss from 18 years ago. He has ended up paying NOTHING in Federal Income tax over those 18 years.

While Guilano & Christie refer to him a genius. I don't agree. Trump is either a horrible businessman, possibly living off of other peoples money, or has his business's leveraged to the hilt, or is very accustomed to running his business's in red ink which will eventually collapse. At that time, they'll be hauling furniture out of the Trump Tower and other assets to auction off. Here is a great article on the life and business ventures of Donald Trump. Very informative.
Donald Trump’s business failings, explained

Michael Bloomberg--who is considerably wealthier than Trump had this to say about Trump's business practices. And Bloomberg can actually produce an income tax return.

Michael Bloomberg's entire Democratic convention speech

It's going to be very difficult to convince the average John & Jane Doe who get up each morning go out a bust butt to earn a living and pay Federal Income taxes, when you have Donald Trump on a microphone telling them how wealthy he is but hasn't paid a penny in Federal income tax in 18 YEARS.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You know what I find funny about all these tax stories. Trump claims when he gets elected he will fix the tax code, which has clearly benefitted him and his ilk. His surrogates call him a genius when it comes out he didn't pay his fair, or more likely any share of his due. So tell me conservatives why do you guys feel. One he represents the average man and two do you truly believe he'll do anything to harm his own bottom line if he gets elected?Trump’s Claim of $916 Million Loss Shows He’s a ‘Genius’: Rudy Giuliani

Where do you get your information? Do you prepare Trump's taxes? Are you in the inner circle and blowing the whistle?

I actually got it from Trump himself and it is confirmed again by this latest report. Its around the 50 second mark.

I do notice you haven't answered either of my questions.

So let me get this straight...you're trying to convince us you'd gladly over pay if you were in Trumps position?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump is no genius. He had a legitimate business right off in 1995 for 916 million in loss's.

But what this really says Is that all of his business's, the golf courses, all of the hotels, all the casinos, & every single business he claims to own (all waded together) have failed to produce 916 million in revenues over the last 18 years to offset the 1995 year loss. And that's the astounding part of all of this. This while Trump brags about a 10 billion net worth, which is now very questionable.

Many business's have had a bad year and will write off a loss. But a well managed business will come back, and make profits to offset the loss's in one or two years. 18 Years & Trump and his business's didn't do that. Trump is still peeling off that 916 million dollar loss from 18 years ago. He has ended up paying NOTHING in Federal Income tax over those 18 years.

While Guilano & Christie refer to him a genius. I don't agree. Trump is either a horrible businessman, possibly living off of other peoples money, or has his business's leveraged to the hilt, or is very accustomed to running his business's in red ink which will eventually collapse. At that time, they'll be hauling furniture out of the Trump Tower and other assets to auction off. Here is a great article on the life and business ventures of Donald Trump. Very informative.
Donald Trump’s business failings, explained

Michael Bloomberg--who is considerably wealthier than Trump had this to say about Trump's business practices. And Bloomberg can actually produce an income tax return.

Michael Bloomberg's entire Democratic convention speech

It's going to be very difficult to convince the average John & Jane Doe who get up each morning go out a bust butt to earn a living and pay Federal Income taxes, when you have Donald Trump on a microphone telling them how wealthy he is but hasn't paid a penny in Federal income tax in 18 YEARS.

But what this really says Is that all of his business's, the golf courses, all of the hotels, all the casinos, & every single business he claims to own (all waded together) have failed to produce 916 million in revenues over the last 18 years to offset the 1995 year loss

What this really says is you confuse revenue with income.

 

[PredFan]

Wow! What a disjointed rambling question! I'll try to answer what I can make out of your question.

1. There isn't anything funny or strange about Trump fixing the tax code. Just because he used it to his advantage as a businessman, doesn't mean he doesn't think it's a problem.

2. Unless he broke the law, he paid his fair share of taxes. If you think that he can legally pay less but not morally, then you should be with him on fixing the tax code.

3. No one thinks he represents the average man, but they do think he will help the average man.

4. What bottom line are you talking about?

You are probably right that the question was a bit disjointed, I do apologize for any confusion. I don't put out a lot of OP's since I know I have a tendency to ramble a bit. Now to the point.
1. I think it is funny to expect someone who actually has an interest in keeping the status quo in regards to the tax code, to actually change it. Especially since all indications, for instance the fact that he isn't planning to put his business interests into a blind holding point to someone who is fully planning to make full use of his potential status as leader of the free world to his personal benefit.
2. I would be with him if it is actually believable he would actually do so.
3. Then the question would be. Why do you think he will help the average man?Since again, his interests and those of the average man are not the same and in most cases are diametrical opposed.
4. His bottom line is, his personal pocket, since he makes a point of mentioning he's an extremely successful businessman every 2 minutes.

You assume quite a bit that isn't true. Your argument is a straw man.

1. Like businessmen do, he takes full advantage of the rules. He's not required to think about if the rules are good for the country as a whole. As president his priorities change.
2. You have a prejudice against him.
3. You asked for "conservatives" not necessarily Trump fans. I'm a conservative who will vote for Trump because Hillary would be a train wreck. I can't tell you why Trump supporters think he will help the average guy. Perhaps by bringing jobs back.
4. Why do you think that what he does as POTUS should hurt his bottom line?

1.My assumptions aren't taking out of thin air. For instance it has been documented that Trump has used donor money to line his own pockets.5 Ways Donald Trump Is Making Money Off His Own Campaign. I'm pretty sure this isn't illegal but it's pretty clearly unethical and gives a clear indication that at least as a candidate he sees his loyalty in the first place still to his business and not to the donors. What makes you think this will change?
2. I readily agree I'm prejudiced. Guess what so are you. And my original point still stands. It is totally unbelievable that Trump will change the tax code so it's less advantageous for his business, which after all will be run by his sons and daughter in his absence.
3. We don't need to discuss this. Since you say you can't answer the question. No problem, I'm guessing this question is something that Trump supporters themselves would have a hard time answering.
4. This goes right back to the original point. Trump has clearly benefitted from the current tax code, yet he claims he will change it, if he does his interests (profits) will be hurt. So he won't do it.

• Reduce taxes across-the-board, especially for working and middle-income Americans.

• Ensure the rich will pay their fair share, but no one will pay so much that it destroys jobs or undermines our ability to compete.

• Eliminate special interest loopholes, make our business tax rate more competitive to keep jobs in America, create new opportunities and revitalize our economy.

I've taken this right of his site. Tell me, after what happened today, why would he actually do this?

1. That's irrelevant, it has nothing to do with his taxes.
2. Why do you think that fixing the tax code is automatically going to be bad for business? That is your prejudice and it leads you to poor judgement.
4. Again your prejudice makes you speak nonsense. Who says the rich don't pay their fair share? Only left wing nut jobs. That has been debunked here multiple times. And how does reducing taxes for middle income people hurt Trump's business. Likely, just the opposite. I fail to see how anything you posted shows where his business will be hurt.

As far as his taxes go, unless you have voluntarily and intentionally paid more taxes than you actually owe, you have no room to talk about Trump.

1. It has nothing to do with his taxes, it has to do with your assertion that his priorities will change if he gets elected. I pointed out that as a candidate he puts his own interests before those of the people who support him. I have no reason to believe that will change if he becomes president. You can call that prejudice but then you will have to provide me an equally strong reason to explain why you think president Trump will be different from candidate Trump.
2. My personal opinion is irrelevant, this entire OP's premise is that Trump feels the tax code is flawed and needs to be changed. And the simple fact how that's completely unbelievable coming from somebody, who has no reason to complain about the current tax code. Something I notice you really aren't addressing and actively try to deflect from.
4.See point 2, the same answer applies.
It's actually funny. Trump supporters are at the same time saying that the current political system is wrong and are now trying to defend a multi-billionaire paying no income taxes. You talk about me being prejudiced but at least my opinion isn't depended on what my candidate says or does on any given day.

Again, all of your points are based on your personal prejudices.

 

[forkup]

You are probably right that the question was a bit disjointed, I do apologize for any confusion. I don't put out a lot of OP's since I know I have a tendency to ramble a bit. Now to the point.
1. I think it is funny to expect someone who actually has an interest in keeping the status quo in regards to the tax code, to actually change it. Especially since all indications, for instance the fact that he isn't planning to put his business interests into a blind holding point to someone who is fully planning to make full use of his potential status as leader of the free world to his personal benefit.
2. I would be with him if it is actually believable he would actually do so.
3. Then the question would be. Why do you think he will help the average man?Since again, his interests and those of the average man are not the same and in most cases are diametrical opposed.
4. His bottom line is, his personal pocket, since he makes a point of mentioning he's an extremely successful businessman every 2 minutes.

You assume quite a bit that isn't true. Your argument is a straw man.

1. Like businessmen do, he takes full advantage of the rules. He's not required to think about if the rules are good for the country as a whole. As president his priorities change.
2. You have a prejudice against him.
3. You asked for "conservatives" not necessarily Trump fans. I'm a conservative who will vote for Trump because Hillary would be a train wreck. I can't tell you why Trump supporters think he will help the average guy. Perhaps by bringing jobs back.
4. Why do you think that what he does as POTUS should hurt his bottom line?

1.My assumptions aren't taking out of thin air. For instance it has been documented that Trump has used donor money to line his own pockets.5 Ways Donald Trump Is Making Money Off His Own Campaign. I'm pretty sure this isn't illegal but it's pretty clearly unethical and gives a clear indication that at least as a candidate he sees his loyalty in the first place still to his business and not to the donors. What makes you think this will change?
2. I readily agree I'm prejudiced. Guess what so are you. And my original point still stands. It is totally unbelievable that Trump will change the tax code so it's less advantageous for his business, which after all will be run by his sons and daughter in his absence.
3. We don't need to discuss this. Since you say you can't answer the question. No problem, I'm guessing this question is something that Trump supporters themselves would have a hard time answering.
4. This goes right back to the original point. Trump has clearly benefitted from the current tax code, yet he claims he will change it, if he does his interests (profits) will be hurt. So he won't do it.

• Reduce taxes across-the-board, especially for working and middle-income Americans.

• Ensure the rich will pay their fair share, but no one will pay so much that it destroys jobs or undermines our ability to compete.

• Eliminate special interest loopholes, make our business tax rate more competitive to keep jobs in America, create new opportunities and revitalize our economy.

I've taken this right of his site. Tell me, after what happened today, why would he actually do this?

1. That's irrelevant, it has nothing to do with his taxes.
2. Why do you think that fixing the tax code is automatically going to be bad for business? That is your prejudice and it leads you to poor judgement.
4. Again your prejudice makes you speak nonsense. Who says the rich don't pay their fair share? Only left wing nut jobs. That has been debunked here multiple times. And how does reducing taxes for middle income people hurt Trump's business. Likely, just the opposite. I fail to see how anything you posted shows where his business will be hurt.

As far as his taxes go, unless you have voluntarily and intentionally paid more taxes than you actually owe, you have no room to talk about Trump.

1. It has nothing to do with his taxes, it has to do with your assertion that his priorities will change if he gets elected. I pointed out that as a candidate he puts his own interests before those of the people who support him. I have no reason to believe that will change if he becomes president. You can call that prejudice but then you will have to provide me an equally strong reason to explain why you think president Trump will be different from candidate Trump.
2. My personal opinion is irrelevant, this entire OP's premise is that Trump feels the tax code is flawed and needs to be changed. And the simple fact how that's completely unbelievable coming from somebody, who has no reason to complain about the current tax code. Something I notice you really aren't addressing and actively try to deflect from.
4.See point 2, the same answer applies.
It's actually funny. Trump supporters are at the same time saying that the current political system is wrong and are now trying to defend a multi-billionaire paying no income taxes. You talk about me being prejudiced but at least my opinion isn't depended on what my candidate says or does on any given day.

Again, all of your points are based on your personal prejudices.

This is the third time you tried to use that argument. Being prejudiced doesn't invalidate a point you make. Every person has prejudices, are you saying that every person is wrong because of it? If so, you might as well close this forum. If I say " Trump will be in it for himself" that's a prejudice. If I say "Trump will be in it for himself" and then give examples of that trait, them I'm not being prejudiced. Then I'm stating an INFORMED opinion. Note that I'm still not calling it a fact, because I'm aware that I'm prejudiced and as a rule a try to give myself the room to be wrong. This is also the reason I try to be polite and give someone with an opposing view every chance to come up with a counterargument. The one you gave is not a counterargument but a blanket statement and tells me, you aren't capable or unwilling to offer an informed counterargument.

 

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You know what I find funny about all these tax stories. Trump claims when he gets elected he will fix the tax code, which has clearly benefitted him and his ilk. His surrogates call him a genius when it comes out he didn't pay his fair, or more likely any share of his due. So tell me conservatives why do you guys feel. One he represents the average man and two do you truly believe he'll do anything to harm his own bottom line if he gets elected?Trump’s Claim of $916 Million Loss Shows He’s a ‘Genius’: Rudy Giuliani

He took a loss in business and was allowed to deduct that loss against future income. It isn't a loophole for rich people, in fact it is very beneficial to small businesses. It is GAAP. And if you have to google what that stands for then I understand why you are confused.

Suppose you own a widget shop. In year one you build the shop buy inventory, pay salaries, etc. Since your business is new, the first year you don't sell enough widgets to recover all your cash outlays, so you loose $100,000. The next year you break even, but still have not recovered the original $100k lost the first year. Over the ensuing years you start to turn a profit, but you are allowed to deduct your original loss of $100k against the income for determining your tax bill. EVERY business in the country does it, not just the orange clown.

My guess is he will likely not be as wealthy being president as he would otherwise be when you consider the amount of time and money he has spent on his campaign, and not focused on his business.

No fan of the orange clown, but reality is what it is.