Can Gun Nuts Please Stop Saying You Need Guns to Protect Yourself From A Potential Tyrannical Government!!!

[Soupnazi630]

Repeat your nonsense, maybe it will become true.

Facts not nonsense

They prove you wronf and it is you piosting proven lies and nonsense,.

 

[Red Front]

You said all the billionaires one does not cut it. He is also not credible as he wishes to colonize other worlds which is impossible try again loser,

Practically all of them who know technology, recognize that the end of capitalism is right around the corner.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Lift the sanctions on Venezuela.

Socialism caused it's collapse not sanctions.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Practically all of them who know technology, recognize that the end of capitalism is right around the corner.

Wrong,

No educated capitalist agree with you

 

[Red Front]

They do not want that and do not see that

Only socialists want UBI

No we don't want UBI. It's the billionaires that are offering it. Even Milton Friedman offered a form of UBI:

 

[Weatherman2020]

It makes you sound mentally challenged.

Having guns is not going to protect you from the police or military. With normal police equipment, SWAT teams, police tactics and fire power etc, they can easily neutralize any armed threat or movement. They wouldn't even break a sweat. Not to mention, police surveillance tactics will make it impossible for an anti-government group to organize a big enough threat to the regime. You don't have a chance. And that is only the police. Your little AR-15 isn't going to do anything to a drone, tank, apache helicopter, fighter jet or combat unit (much less special forces). There is a reason you have not seen a people's uprising to over-throw a government even in Africa in decade. And really only Sudan has been overthrown by a military coup.

No, the only reason you want certain guns (such as a AR-15) is because you like to have them.

It is true the vast majority of gun owners are responsible and good people, including AR-15 owners. But that 1% or 0.05% that are not responsible can cause havoc, as we just saw in Highland park (an event I was on my way to attend and an event to which I know many people that were directly effected).

If you want to hunt, then a single shot hunting rifle will suffice. If it is about home defense, then handguns and shotguns (which as both short-range) would be sufficient.

There are many things that can be done, such as arm teachers, have cops in schools, secure soft targets, better mental health facilities, red flag rules and immunity for snitching, involuntary institutionalization, high standards for gun ownership, higher and minimum sentences for illegal gun possession, Federal no buy lists, vicarious liability for guns for the gun owner etc., but stop with the argument that you need guns for tyrannical governments! Because it is foolish.

There should be a ban on all guns other then single shot hunting rifles, handguns and shotguns.

Now I know handguns are by far the weapon of choice in the vast number of homicides, but so called "assault rifles" (yes I know that is a term the liberals made up) it by far a more sufficient weapon to commit mass murder then a handgun, even if they are semi-automatic (vs full).

Keep sticking to these stances that turn off the moderates (e.g. ban on abortion and do nothing on guns) and then cry about how Demorats can win with gas over $5-6, out of control inflation, major blunders in foreign policy and everyone hating woke politics. If the Demorats keep the House and pick up senate seats you are going to see the most radical changes to this country that we haver ever seen.

Tell us more how government employees (police) are going around shooting and assaulting innocents.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No we don't want UBI. It's the billionaires that are offering it. Even Milton Friedman offered a form of UBI:

Socialists want ity billionaires do not

 

[Red Front]

Socialists want ity billionaires do not

 

[Red Front]

As you can see, even Milton Friedman was for handing people checks. Anyone can search for "UBI Universal Basic Income Billionaires" on YouTube and get several billionaires pushing it. Communists are against UBI, we don't need it. We can produce everything we need and meet society's needs without money, especially today with all of the technology we have available. The future is communist, not capitalist.

 

[scruffy]

The billionaires see the writing on the wall for capitalism. It's done in a few decades, that's why they want to give everyone a "Univeral Basic Income". It's capitalism on life support.

No, it's communism creeping in the back door.

 

[Red Front]

No, it's communism creeping in the back door.

When wage-labor is replaced with technology that's the end of markets and money. Technology will produce everything we need without the need for markets or money. That's the future of space colonization and human production. You're stuck in the past with outdated modes of production and distribution.

 

[scruffy]

Practically all of them who know technology, recognize that the end of capitalism is right around the corner.

You're fucking crazy.

You're completely oblivious to the reality.

Communists aren't the brightest types in the first place.

 

[scruffy]

When wage-labor is replaced with technology that's the end of markets and money. Technology will produce everything we need without the need for markets or money. That's the future of space colonization and human production. You're stuck in the past with outdated modes of production and distribution.

I'll bet you think meat comes from the supermarket. Dontcha. Hm?

 

[Red Front]

You're fucking crazy.

You're completely oblivious to the reality.

Communists aren't the brightest types in the first place.

Albert Einstein and many others were socialists, Marxists, so it's quite comical that you would assert only fools are socialists.

Monthly Review | Why Socialism?

Is it advisable for one who is not an expert on economic and social issues to express views on the subject of socialism? I believe for a number of reasons that it is.… Clarity about the aims and…

monthlyreview.org

 

[scruffy]

Albert Einstein and many others were socialists, Marxists, so it's quite comical that you would assert only fools are socialists.

Monthly Review | Why Socialism?

Is it advisable for one who is not an expert on economic and social issues to express views on the subject of socialism? I believe for a number of reasons that it is.… Clarity about the aims and…

monthlyreview.org

The authority fallacy won't work on me.

Einstein was wrong about a lot of things

And so are you.

 

[Rogue AI]

Not if the deaths are caused by war. Capitalist death tolls are much higher.

Capitalists kill other people, communists kill their own. That you can't understand why the difference is significant says a lot. Communism is so intellectually bankrupt it cannot survive internal dissent,thus it must be ruled through fear and oppression. Capitalists can survive both an armed populace and free and open dissent.

 

[Roudy]

It makes you sound mentally challenged.

Having guns is not going to protect you from the police or military. With normal police equipment, SWAT teams, police tactics and fire power etc, they can easily neutralize any armed threat or movement. They wouldn't even break a sweat. Not to mention, police surveillance tactics will make it impossible for an anti-government group to organize a big enough threat to the regime. You don't have a chance. And that is only the police. Your little AR-15 isn't going to do anything to a drone, tank, apache helicopter, fighter jet or combat unit (much less special forces). There is a reason you have not seen a people's uprising to over-throw a government even in Africa in decade. And really only Sudan has been overthrown by a military coup.

No, the only reason you want certain guns (such as a AR-15) is because you like to have them.

It is true the vast majority of gun owners are responsible and good people, including AR-15 owners. But that 1% or 0.05% that are not responsible can cause havoc, as we just saw in Highland park (an event I was on my way to attend and an event to which I know many people that were directly effected).

If you want to hunt, then a single shot hunting rifle will suffice. If it is about home defense, then handguns and shotguns (which as both short-range) would be sufficient.

There are many things that can be done, such as arm teachers, have cops in schools, secure soft targets, better mental health facilities, red flag rules and immunity for snitching, involuntary institutionalization, high standards for gun ownership, higher and minimum sentences for illegal gun possession, Federal no buy lists, vicarious liability for guns for the gun owner etc., but stop with the argument that you need guns for tyrannical governments! Because it is foolish.

There should be a ban on all guns other then single shot hunting rifles, handguns and shotguns.

Now I know handguns are by far the weapon of choice in the vast number of homicides, but so called "assault rifles" (yes I know that is a term the liberals made up) it by far a more sufficient weapon to commit mass murder then a handgun, even if they are semi-automatic (vs full).

Keep sticking to these stances that turn off the moderates (e.g. ban on abortion and do nothing on guns) and then cry about how Demorats can win with gas over $5-6, out of control inflation, major blunders in foreign policy and everyone hating woke politics. If the Demorats keep the House and pick up senate seats you are going to see the most radical changes to this country that we haver ever seen.

Anytime the Dems win a big enough majority in the next 20 to 30 years, you will not recognize this country ever again. They will throw our constitution in the trash and impose a fascistic, intrusive tyrannical regime and create a political structure that will keep them in power in perpetuity. Of course, by then we could also be involved in a full on civil war of red states vs blue states, which in essence if you’re living in a blue state, you’re the laboratory guinea pigs that are fucked either way.

 

[scruffy]

Capitalists kill other people, communists kill their own. That you can't understand why the difference is significant says a lot. Communism is so intellectually bankrupt it cannot survive internal dissent,thus it must be ruled through fear and oppression. Capitalists can survive both an armed populace and free and open dissent.

Another way of saying it is that communism requires universal participation, which can only be achieved through fear and oppression.

 

[Red Front]

They do not want that and do not see that

Only socialists want UBI

lol keep repeating yourself like a robot. Wizard of oz argumentation tactic. Just keep repeating your groundless claims until it magically becomes true.

 

[Red Front]

Another way of saying it is that communism requires universal participation, which can only be achieved through fear and oppression.

When there are no more jobs or not enough jobs due to wage-labor being replaced with technology, you will become a communist too.