Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[owebo]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

What's a living wage?

$12+

Says who?

 

[bripat9643]

The power grid and communications get no help from the gov't? Your ignorance is so powerful....lol

government subsidies for power grid and communications - Google Search

Your Google search turned up one grant of $35 million for developing the smart grid.

 

[francoHFW]

Reaganism and the new bs GOP undoubtedly cut the amount spent on garbage collection, like everything else for the nonrich and the country. To save the rich and giant corps.

Sure he did. Now run along, I think I hear the nurse calling you.

You are clueless about the big picture, dupe. BTW, listen, stupid. I'M TALKING ABOUT REAGANISM, NOT REAGAN. He would have given up on this fleece the nonrich crap a long time ago. Idiot.

 

[francoHFW]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

What's a living wage?

$12+

Says who?

Every other modern country. At least, fool.

 

[owebo]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

What's a living wage?

$12+

Says who?

Every other modern country. At least, fool.

Do you know what the word who means?

 

[francoHFW]

The power grid and communications get no help from the gov't? Your ignorance is so powerful....lol

government subsidies for power grid and communications - Google Search

Your Google search turned up one grant of $35 million for developing the smart grid.

This says 8 BILLION.
Smart Grid Investment Grant Program

How much for wind, solar, and nukes? You dupes are amazing....

 

[Markle]

LOL --- selecting diffuse 'facts' (very much in question) to support a fallacious argument.

Eurocars, in general, have to have their suspensions "tweaked" in order to meet our more stringent safety standards. The same applies for glass, lights etc. It has nothing to do with our roads. I bought my first Jaguar while assigned to USAFE in Belgium --- great deal UNTIL I picked up the tab for making it roadworthy in the US.

To argue that they have "many fewer poor" is disingenuous. Your 'argument' is fallacious. You should be comparing standard of living. Our poor make more than the 'average' European income.

The same applies for your nonsensical comment about universities - compare them not to each other but to the average income for that country. You'll come away with a completely different observation.

As for vacations, benefits, etc ---- what the hell do you think is happening in Europe today? Pensions, 30 hour work weeks, socialized medicine are driving EVERY country toward bankruptcy. Some will take longer to get there, but they are all headed down the same road.

Boooshies drove them to bankruptcy, dupe. Duh. They don't have poor like ours. We're a gd oligarchy.

Are you fucking kidding me?

I apologize ...

I thought you were somebody who hadn't dipped into an alternate reality. Our poor are the worst? Seriously? LOL

DEFINITELY worse off than in France, Germani, Holland Switz, Scandinavia, OZ, NZ, Canada. DUHHHHH Dupes...
None And get 6 week vacations, free day care, free health care etc etc DUHHHHHHH.

i LOVE the word "free" ---- who pays for those "free" things?

Single pay health care. Tax payers. Here, free birth control is cheaper than no BC. And free HC is cheaper than our stupid system.

Who pays for "FREE"?

 

[Markle]

Republicans want to destroy this country and suck the dick of the people that are offshoring all of our jobs.

Oh brother. You people. You listen to some idiot, that knows almost nothing, and mindlessly repeat it.

Ok, so let's actually look at reality. Why does Wisconsin suck? Because of tax cuts? You moron. You mindless ape.

Wisconsin

Wisconsin's 2016 Business Tax Climate Index Ranks 43rd
Wisconsin ranks 43rd on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index. The Index compares the states in five areas of taxation that impact business: corporate taxes (32nd), individual income taxes (43rd), sales taxes (13th), unemployment insurance taxes (36th), and taxes on property (33rd), including residential and commercial property.

43rd.

Meaning, out of 50 states, there are only 7 states that are worse for business.

This includes corporate taxes, 7.9%, Sales tax 5%, and property tax that averages $1800 per person.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.
​

Over all tax collection was 13th highest in the Union.

And as for this ignorant mental case you posted.... here's the facts....

View attachment 85474

Wisconsin's economic situation was worse than Minnesota, and the US average, long before the tax cut, and longer than Scott Walker was ever elected.

Wisconsin has been, and still is, a business hostile State. Left-wing policies have made, and continue to make, Wisconsin noncompetitive to the rest of the country.

If that wasn't enough, the left-wingers have been against the logging and paper industry for decades, and Wisconsin's primary industry, is the paper industry, which between the digital age, and the growing paper imports from China, the paper industry in the US is staggering.

Paper Cuts: Wisconsin's paper industry battles the threat of digital, China as a paper power.

And lastly.... Trickle down is how the world works. The only reason there is even ONE JOB in Wisconsin is because of Trickle down.

Everything is trickle down. Everything. Not one single job would exist, without trickle down. It has always worked, and continues to work. And for you, or any other left-winger to even attempt to deny it, only signifies that you are completely and utterly unqualified to talk about the economy, and likely not mentally stable to enough to talk about any topic.

To see how foolish this stupidity is from the left, just consider the counter claim. Are you seriously suggesting that job growth would drastically increase if we just taxed the companies and people leaving Wisconsin at a higher rate? You really think that makes sense in left-tard land? How dumb can any human being be, and still breath, let alone type something this moronic into a forum?

If we just jack up taxes on companies and the public.... why jobs will just pop into existence from all the companies leaving.... yeah brilliant.

Wisconsin ranks among top states people are leaving

Just jack up those taxes dude. Everyone will turn right around "I love paying more taxes!", and head back to Wisconsin. Only the dumbest of left-wing-nuts would post this crap.

As you well know, people are leaving Wisconsin from the major cities, such as Milwaukee, run into ruin by Democrats for decades.

All I needed to do was look at the chart you posted and that it didn't say what you claimed it said. I don't have to think you're an idiot and a liar, I know because I've thought about it.

Keep obsessing on one detail, dupe. And absolutely miss the point. Idiot.

The detail I state is the point. The point is your source didn't show what you claimed and you tried to add in things the source doesn't include.

The rich don't pay enough, the middle class and poor too much. What a gd idiot...

Specifically, how is that possible since the lowest 47% of workers pay no income tax?

''As you well know, people are leaving Wisconsin from the major cities, such as Milwaukee, run into ruin by Democrats for decades."

There is white flight from the cities, but you'll find they go to the suburbs. Just typical US racism...And blacks have voted for Dems for years- they know racists are mainly GOP.

If Republicans are racists [LIE], how are things working out for blacks by blindly following Democrats?

 

[kaz]

I like tax payer paid roads and I am sure the vast majority of the tax payers like it too. Fuck toll roads and fuck corporate roads like the tea party wants for us all.

I like tax payer paid clean air, water and food. I am sure that most of this country does too..You see, if we're going to have something good then we all should have a part in it.

Wow, that's a great argument for the tenth of a percent of us who are anarchists. As for the rest of us ...



We're not anarchists you stupid mother fucker. No one other than that tiny percent are saying zero taxes. Stop being a lazy stupid douche and wasting the 99.9% of our time with your stupid ass non-points

 

[francoHFW]

Boooshies drove them to bankruptcy, dupe. Duh. They don't have poor like ours. We're a gd oligarchy.

Are you fucking kidding me?

I apologize ...

I thought you were somebody who hadn't dipped into an alternate reality. Our poor are the worst? Seriously? LOL

DEFINITELY worse off than in France, Germani, Holland Switz, Scandinavia, OZ, NZ, Canada. DUHHHHH Dupes...
None And get 6 week vacations, free day care, free health care etc etc DUHHHHHHH.

i LOVE the word "free" ---- who pays for those "free" things?

Single pay health care. Tax payers. Here, free birth control is cheaper than no BC. And free HC is cheaper than our stupid system.

Who pays for "FREE"?

Taxpayers duh. It's cheaper that way for them.

 

[Markle]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

Why?

ELIMINATE the Federal Minimum Wage. If state, cities or counties want them, that's their right.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are clueless about the big picture, dupe. BTW, listen, stupid. I'M TALKING ABOUT REAGANISM, NOT REAGAN. He would have given up on this fleece the nonrich crap a long time ago. Idiot.

Reaganism had to come from Reagan.......idiot.

You post the same crap day in and day out about Reagan. Now you are telling me that your garbage collection had to do with "Reaganism." Is there any disruption in your socialist life that doesn't have anything to do with Reagan?

 

[francoHFW]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

Why?

ELIMINATE the Federal Minimum Wage. If state, cities or counties want them, that's their right.

Your feelings for employers is touching. Anyway, it's so low now it's just as good as gone...Hopefully, Trump may wreck your stupid party so bad we'll get actual control and fix your mess....

 

[rightwinger]

US corporations added $8 trillion in wealth under Obama. Hard to argue that they need government protections, deregulation or special incentives to keep the money train going

Hillary needs to listen to Bernie and Liz Warren and put a stop to the gravy train...they obviously don't need it

What does "added $8 trillion in wealth" mean? Is that the increase in their profits, gross revenue, pure bullshit?

Corporate assets

 

[francoHFW]

You are clueless about the big picture, dupe. BTW, listen, stupid. I'M TALKING ABOUT REAGANISM, NOT REAGAN. He would have given up on this fleece the nonrich crap a long time ago. Idiot.

Reaganism had to come from Reagan.......idiot.

You post the same crap day in and day out about Reagan. Now you are telling me that your garbage collection had to do with "Reaganism." Is there any disruption in your socialist life that doesn't have anything to do with Reagan?

Jeebus what an idiot...It's changed and so have circumstances.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans want to destroy this country and suck the dick of the people that are offshoring all of our jobs.

Oh brother. You people. You listen to some idiot, that knows almost nothing, and mindlessly repeat it.

Ok, so let's actually look at reality. Why does Wisconsin suck? Because of tax cuts? You moron. You mindless ape.

Wisconsin

Wisconsin's 2016 Business Tax Climate Index Ranks 43rd
Wisconsin ranks 43rd on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index. The Index compares the states in five areas of taxation that impact business: corporate taxes (32nd), individual income taxes (43rd), sales taxes (13th), unemployment insurance taxes (36th), and taxes on property (33rd), including residential and commercial property.

43rd.

Meaning, out of 50 states, there are only 7 states that are worse for business.

This includes corporate taxes, 7.9%, Sales tax 5%, and property tax that averages $1800 per person.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.
​

Over all tax collection was 13th highest in the Union.

And as for this ignorant mental case you posted.... here's the facts....

View attachment 85474

Wisconsin's economic situation was worse than Minnesota, and the US average, long before the tax cut, and longer than Scott Walker was ever elected.

Wisconsin has been, and still is, a business hostile State. Left-wing policies have made, and continue to make, Wisconsin noncompetitive to the rest of the country.

If that wasn't enough, the left-wingers have been against the logging and paper industry for decades, and Wisconsin's primary industry, is the paper industry, which between the digital age, and the growing paper imports from China, the paper industry in the US is staggering.

Paper Cuts: Wisconsin's paper industry battles the threat of digital, China as a paper power.

And lastly.... Trickle down is how the world works. The only reason there is even ONE JOB in Wisconsin is because of Trickle down.

Everything is trickle down. Everything. Not one single job would exist, without trickle down. It has always worked, and continues to work. And for you, or any other left-winger to even attempt to deny it, only signifies that you are completely and utterly unqualified to talk about the economy, and likely not mentally stable to enough to talk about any topic.

To see how foolish this stupidity is from the left, just consider the counter claim. Are you seriously suggesting that job growth would drastically increase if we just taxed the companies and people leaving Wisconsin at a higher rate? You really think that makes sense in left-tard land? How dumb can any human being be, and still breath, let alone type something this moronic into a forum?

If we just jack up taxes on companies and the public.... why jobs will just pop into existence from all the companies leaving.... yeah brilliant.

Wisconsin ranks among top states people are leaving

Just jack up those taxes dude. Everyone will turn right around "I love paying more taxes!", and head back to Wisconsin. Only the dumbest of left-wing-nuts would post this crap.

As you well know, people are leaving Wisconsin from the major cities, such as Milwaukee, run into ruin by Democrats for decades.

Keep obsessing on one detail, dupe. And absolutely miss the point. Idiot.

The detail I state is the point. The point is your source didn't show what you claimed and you tried to add in things the source doesn't include.

The rich don't pay enough, the middle class and poor too much. What a gd idiot...

Specifically, how is that possible since the lowest 47% of workers pay no income tax?

''As you well know, people are leaving Wisconsin from the major cities, such as Milwaukee, run into ruin by Democrats for decades."

There is white flight from the cities, but you'll find they go to the suburbs. Just typical US racism...And blacks have voted for Dems for years- they know racists are mainly GOP.

If Republicans are racists [LIE], how are things working out for blacks by blindly following Democrats?

What have Republicans done to make the lives of minorities better? They vote Democratic because at least Democrats are active in their neighborhoods and provide programs to help them

Republicans finding a few minorities to run under their banner does not absolve them of racism or the racists who flock to their party

 

[Markle]

this has got to be the stupidest post I've ever seen... you have no Idea where the money goes and whose spending it
...Well in general, anyone that is not producing, is a problem is this bull shit at its best ... or what !!! have you look at how much of these non-producing people cost the national budget each year ??? by your ignorant statement here you haven't looked ... you just responded to typical right wing propaganda ... .008 percent of the national budget goes to people on welfare .... 75% of the taxed dollars for the rich and the top 1% goes in their pockets ... from not paying their fair share ...by getting tax deductions they get ... now you're trying to say welfare people cause this 17 trillion dollar debt ??? how about republicans passing unfunded legislation ... could that have been the cause??? Naw its them damn welfare people HUH...

Unfunded legislation, like what for instance?

Not paying their fair share? The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected federal income tax. If that's unfair, then what is fair?

.008% of our budget goes to welfare? You mean welfare checks or all welfare including things like food stamps and Medicaid? Would love to see your source on that one.

"A liberal believes that if you make money, you are not entitled to it, but if you want money, you are."
Ken Blackwell

are you really this stupid ??? really !!! are you ??? do you have your head so far in your ass that you have no Idea whats going on around you??? really, I being sincere here ... you haven't any Idea what bills did the republicans pass that was unfunded ??? no Idea at all hummmmm !!!

1 Percenters Pay 24 Percent and Top 10 Percent Pay 53.3 Percent of All Federal Taxes ... that means they pay the percentage of tax to the feds . the rich 1% pays 24 % of the taxes collected ... the 10% pay 53.3% of the paid taxes so you totals are off quite a bit off ... that means the rest of the tax base pays 46.6% of the total money collected each year... on the whole the rich 1% pay 10% you can document this ... the 10% are paying between 15% to 28% of the money they make ... of the two totals they are paying 53.3% of the tax collected... so when you said The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected federal income tax thats not true ... but thats what you get for being uninformed

as for unfunded taxes by republicans ...I'll give you one for a starter ... then you do some god damn research for once in your right wing life... Medicare Part D .... pass unfunded by the republicans ... cost the american tax payer 500 billion dollars the first year... 2 years that's 1 trillion dollars to the national debt pile... not to worry thought obama care has allocated money for it each year to cut the cost in 2020 it will be totally funded ... thanks to obama ...but hey, obama has done nothing but raise taxes right!!!

and you are right ... if you make a lot of money in this country you aren't entitled to it all... you have to pay taxes ...you don't get to keep all the money you make ... because this country runs on taxes to make it work .... you selfish bastards use all of the benefits this country has to offer, but when you see a black person, a brown person, or anyone thats not you, you feel we are being over taxed ... you feel that you aren't getting to keep your hard earn money ... this country doesn't work that way ... if you don't like paying taxes or your fair share move to a country that doesn't tax ... then you can keep that hard earned money of yours

finally I see you right wing nut jobs do this you trying put all the programs under one window ... let me enlighten you ... welfare is one program .... food stamps is one program... section 8 is one program all design to help people in need ...
welfare can have people on section 8 and food stamps ... people working 2 to 3 jobs can be on food stamps and section 8 ... people working can be on section 8 ... people working can get food stamps ... you trying to put all the programs in a lump sum and call it welfare ...it doesn't work that way ... there's welfare, there's food stamps, there's section 8, all separate programs, all allocated so much money to them out of the national budget ... the .008% of the national budget goes to welfare...2% of the national budget goes to food stamps ... look it up its on the web ... section 8 is payed by the state and not the feds ... each state has it own percentage that the state budget goes to section 8 ... some states have stop section 8 housing ... on the whole 2.008% of your tax dollars goes to help people in need... the other % on section 8 is based on state by state bases ...

finally you people on the right are so uninformed when it comes to social programs... that you try an lump it in a single sum ... it doesn't work that way ... people on welfare can get into a lot of social programs design to help them ... under Bill clinton he pass welfare laws that say they can only be own welfare for 2 years after that 2 years they are taken off...

As you know, Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama's failed Stimulus plan gutted the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. It no longer exists.

You really should catch up.

 

[Markle]

Go ahead and explain why that is a good thing for the country.

Keep in mind folks that the American socialists are by far the dumbest people on the planet.

Let us hear why American companies should be taxed more and why that is a good thing.

It takes money to protect those companies as well as build infrastructure.. If they don't want protection or good roads, let them move to Kenya or Uganda.
Does even the simplest of things have to be explained to Republicans?

look at companies they get a tax cut on research and development ... they get to write off their company fleet ... the gas they use ...the electricity they use ... then complain they pay to much in taxes... if you ever set down and look at what a company pays in taxes or doersn't pay, it will make you want to puke

PLEASE, share with us your infinite knowledge of SPECIFICALLY who pays corporate taxes.

As a Realtor, an Independent contractor, I too got to write off any courses I took, conventions I attended travel, mileage, computers, printers, software, postage, cell phone usage, home office and the list goes on. So what?

 

[Markle]

Corporate Taxes
Big corporations are making bigger and bigger profits, but they’re contributing less and less in taxes. That means they are doing less and less to help build roads and bridges, maintain our schools and fund the many other services government provides. Sixty years ago, 30 percent of total federal tax revenue was from corporations. Today […]

So let's run those numbers:

The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% in all collected income taxes.

Corporations pay 11% of all collected income taxes.

This means between the top 10% of wage earners and corporations, they are collectively paying over 81% of all federal income taxes collected. that means the rest of us have to come up with the other 19%. But they're not paying enough?????

Yep, that's socialism and the greed of socialists like Mertex.

Ironic she says the rich always want more, isn't it?

Another trickle down sucker, Kaz......bwahahaha.

It's not trickle down, it's flood down. What you want is trickle up poverty. When a poor guy gives you a job, let me know

What happens when workers are actually paid a reasonable wage?

Is it trickle up poverty? Do their employers and stock holders actually become poor or do they just surrender some of the wealth they have been holding back?

Workers are paid exactly their worth for what they produce for the company. That's one reason I chose to be self-employed. I decide what I am worth, no one else. Worked extremely well for over 40 years.

 

[francoHFW]

this has got to be the stupidest post I've ever seen... you have no Idea where the money goes and whose spending it
...Well in general, anyone that is not producing, is a problem is this bull shit at its best ... or what !!! have you look at how much of these non-producing people cost the national budget each year ??? by your ignorant statement here you haven't looked ... you just responded to typical right wing propaganda ... .008 percent of the national budget goes to people on welfare .... 75% of the taxed dollars for the rich and the top 1% goes in their pockets ... from not paying their fair share ...by getting tax deductions they get ... now you're trying to say welfare people cause this 17 trillion dollar debt ??? how about republicans passing unfunded legislation ... could that have been the cause??? Naw its them damn welfare people HUH...

Unfunded legislation, like what for instance?

Not paying their fair share? The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected federal income tax. If that's unfair, then what is fair?

.008% of our budget goes to welfare? You mean welfare checks or all welfare including things like food stamps and Medicaid? Would love to see your source on that one.

"A liberal believes that if you make money, you are not entitled to it, but if you want money, you are."
Ken Blackwell

are you really this stupid ??? really !!! are you ??? do you have your head so far in your ass that you have no Idea whats going on around you??? really, I being sincere here ... you haven't any Idea what bills did the republicans pass that was unfunded ??? no Idea at all hummmmm !!!

1 Percenters Pay 24 Percent and Top 10 Percent Pay 53.3 Percent of All Federal Taxes ... that means they pay the percentage of tax to the feds . the rich 1% pays 24 % of the taxes collected ... the 10% pay 53.3% of the paid taxes so you totals are off quite a bit off ... that means the rest of the tax base pays 46.6% of the total money collected each year... on the whole the rich 1% pay 10% you can document this ... the 10% are paying between 15% to 28% of the money they make ... of the two totals they are paying 53.3% of the tax collected... so when you said The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected federal income tax thats not true ... but thats what you get for being uninformed

as for unfunded taxes by republicans ...I'll give you one for a starter ... then you do some god damn research for once in your right wing life... Medicare Part D .... pass unfunded by the republicans ... cost the american tax payer 500 billion dollars the first year... 2 years that's 1 trillion dollars to the national debt pile... not to worry thought obama care has allocated money for it each year to cut the cost in 2020 it will be totally funded ... thanks to obama ...but hey, obama has done nothing but raise taxes right!!!

and you are right ... if you make a lot of money in this country you aren't entitled to it all... you have to pay taxes ...you don't get to keep all the money you make ... because this country runs on taxes to make it work .... you selfish bastards use all of the benefits this country has to offer, but when you see a black person, a brown person, or anyone thats not you, you feel we are being over taxed ... you feel that you aren't getting to keep your hard earn money ... this country doesn't work that way ... if you don't like paying taxes or your fair share move to a country that doesn't tax ... then you can keep that hard earned money of yours

finally I see you right wing nut jobs do this you trying put all the programs under one window ... let me enlighten you ... welfare is one program .... food stamps is one program... section 8 is one program all design to help people in need ...
welfare can have people on section 8 and food stamps ... people working 2 to 3 jobs can be on food stamps and section 8 ... people working can be on section 8 ... people working can get food stamps ... you trying to put all the programs in a lump sum and call it welfare ...it doesn't work that way ... there's welfare, there's food stamps, there's section 8, all separate programs, all allocated so much money to them out of the national budget ... the .008% of the national budget goes to welfare...2% of the national budget goes to food stamps ... look it up its on the web ... section 8 is payed by the state and not the feds ... each state has it own percentage that the state budget goes to section 8 ... some states have stop section 8 housing ... on the whole 2.008% of your tax dollars goes to help people in need... the other % on section 8 is based on state by state bases ...

finally you people on the right are so uninformed when it comes to social programs... that you try an lump it in a single sum ... it doesn't work that way ... people on welfare can get into a lot of social programs design to help them ... under Bill clinton he pass welfare laws that say they can only be own welfare for 2 years after that 2 years they are taken off...

As you know, Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama's failed Stimulus plan gutted the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. It no longer exists.

You really should catch up.

Link to that bs?