Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[kaz]

If Kaz supports Trump, he's a loser already...... 2016 Election: Clinton vs. Trump

I don't, you're a loser now. With all the posting you do on the site, how many anti-Trump threads do I have to start to get through that shallow little brain you have?

Trump supporters, are you happy?

Trump is a whiner

Trump supporters are convincing me ...

Trump doubles down

Is Trump fair to others?

Trump Supporters: what is the number one reason you support Trump?

Trump supporters, don't the superlatives bother you?

Why I will not now or ever advocate, argue for or endorse Trump

What is Trump's actual economic plan? Anyone know?

Reading this thread reminds me once again why anyone would be a leftist ... they are the planet's dimmest bulbs.

Woo.

It's unreal how dumb they are. Makes me want to give up sometimes. You can't penetrate the endless layers of pure stupid

 

[rightwinger]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

 

[dblack]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

HAHA.... ahh. Should we cry, or laugh?

 

[rightwinger]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

HAHA.... ahh. Should we cry, or laugh?

Do as you wish

Just save us from the whine that employers can't pay more because they don't have the money

 

[dblack]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

HAHA.... ahh. Should we cry, or laugh?

Do as you wish

Just save us from the whine that employers can't pay more because they don't have the money

or the delusion that government will save us from exploitation.

 

[rightwinger]

US corporations added $8 trillion in wealth under Obama. Hard to argue that they need government protections, deregulation or special incentives to keep the money train going

Hillary needs to listen to Bernie and Liz Warren and put a stop to the gravy train...they obviously don't need it

 

[Wyatt earp]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

Cooperations stashed those trillions offshore like smart company's should until we get a business friendly conservative president.

 

[rightwinger]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

Cooperations stashed those trillions offshore like smart company's should until we get a business friendly conservative president.

Their wealth increased from $21 trillion to $34 trillion in eight years of Obama

Seems pretty business friendly to me

 

[Conservative65]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

Has there been an increase in the skills required to do minimum wage, low skilled job in 100 years? NO.

Did the people working get paid for working? Yes. If they are still working there and it's so bad, why are they still working there?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

Cooperations stashed those trillions offshore like smart company's should until we get a business friendly conservative president.

Their wealth increased from $21 trillion to $34 trillion in eight years of Obama

Seems pretty business friendly to me

Yea when the feds were pumping in 85 billion a month of made up out of thin air money

 

[rightwinger]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

Cooperations stashed those trillions offshore like smart company's should until we get a business friendly conservative president.

Their wealth increased from $21 trillion to $34 trillion in eight years of Obama

Seems pretty business friendly to me

Yea when the feds were pumping in 85 billion a month of made up out of thin air money

If that's the case, why didn't we see runaway inflation and a worthless dollar?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

Your post is the perfect example of leftist business ignorance. Instead of me explaining the process, I'll put you into the picture to make the point:

You run into a good some of money, let's say from a small lottery or perhaps a relative passed away. After taxes, your share is about $250,000.

Your house is paid for, your car is paid for, you have no debt or expenses. So what do you do with that money? You invest it.

Since you don't know much about investments, you come here to USMB and I decide to help you. You are looking for a conservative but good growth company. You don't want to take any risks.

After extensive research, I find two companies that sell stock I think would be right for you. Company A had been around for a long time. Their growth is 5.5%. They have a promising future. Company B has also been around a long time. Their growth is 3.1%. Which company would you put your money in?

Before you decide, I forgot to tell you something else: Company A grosses about 1.4 million a year. Company B grosses about 755 million a year. Does that change your mind at all? Of course not.

You could care less how much money a company has. All you're concerned about is growth. The more growth, the better payoff for your investment. So if you decide to put your money in Company A instead of Company B, don't you think most investors would do the same?

Businesses heavily rely on investors to make their business run. If company B decides to overpay all their employees to look good, their investment growth goes from 3.1% to 2.8% or so.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

this has got to be the stupidest post I've ever seen... you have no Idea where the money goes and whose spending it
...Well in general, anyone that is not producing, is a problem is this bull shit at its best ... or what !!! have you look at how much of these non-producing people cost the national budget each year ??? by your ignorant statement here you haven't looked ... you just responded to typical right wing propaganda ... .008 percent of the national budget goes to people on welfare .... 75% of the taxed dollars for the rich and the top 1% goes in their pockets ... from not paying their fair share ...by getting tax deductions they get ... now you're trying to say welfare people cause this 17 trillion dollar debt ??? how about republicans passing unfunded legislation ... could that have been the cause??? Naw its them damn welfare people HUH...

Unfunded legislation, like what for instance?

Not paying their fair share? The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected federal income tax. If that's unfair, then what is fair?

.008% of our budget goes to welfare? You mean welfare checks or all welfare including things like food stamps and Medicaid? Would love to see your source on that one.

"A liberal believes that if you make money, you are not entitled to it, but if you want money, you are."
Ken Blackwell

are you really this stupid ??? really !!! are you ??? do you have your head so far in your ass that you have no Idea whats going on around you??? really, I being sincere here ... you haven't any Idea what bills did the republicans pass that was unfunded ??? no Idea at all hummmmm !!!

1 Percenters Pay 24 Percent and Top 10 Percent Pay 53.3 Percent of All Federal Taxes ... that means they pay the percentage of tax to the feds . the rich 1% pays 24 % of the taxes collected ... the 10% pay 53.3% of the paid taxes so you totals are off quite a bit off ... that means the rest of the tax base pays 46.6% of the total money collected each year... on the whole the rich 1% pay 10% you can document this ... the 10% are paying between 15% to 28% of the money they make ... of the two totals they are paying 53.3% of the tax collected... so when you said The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected federal income tax thats not true ... but thats what you get for being uninformed

as for unfunded taxes by republicans ...I'll give you one for a starter ... then you do some god damn research for once in your right wing life... Medicare Part D .... pass unfunded by the republicans ... cost the american tax payer 500 billion dollars the first year... 2 years that's 1 trillion dollars to the national debt pile... not to worry thought obama care has allocated money for it each year to cut the cost in 2020 it will be totally funded ... thanks to obama ...but hey, obama has done nothing but raise taxes right!!!

and you are right ... if you make a lot of money in this country you aren't entitled to it all... you have to pay taxes ...you don't get to keep all the money you make ... because this country runs on taxes to make it work .... you selfish bastards use all of the benefits this country has to offer, but when you see a black person, a brown person, or anyone thats not you, you feel we are being over taxed ... you feel that you aren't getting to keep your hard earn money ... this country doesn't work that way ... if you don't like paying taxes or your fair share move to a country that doesn't tax ... then you can keep that hard earned money of yours

finally I see you right wing nut jobs do this you trying put all the programs under one window ... let me enlighten you ... welfare is one program .... food stamps is one program... section 8 is one program all design to help people in need ...
welfare can have people on section 8 and food stamps ... people working 2 to 3 jobs can be on food stamps and section 8 ... people working can be on section 8 ... people working can get food stamps ... you trying to put all the programs in a lump sum and call it welfare ...it doesn't work that way ... there's welfare, there's food stamps, there's section 8, all separate programs, all allocated so much money to them out of the national budget ... the .008% of the national budget goes to welfare...2% of the national budget goes to food stamps ... look it up its on the web ... section 8 is payed by the state and not the feds ... each state has it own percentage that the state budget goes to section 8 ... some states have stop section 8 housing ... on the whole 2.008% of your tax dollars goes to help people in need... the other % on section 8 is based on state by state bases ...

finally you people on the right are so uninformed when it comes to social programs... that you try an lump it in a single sum ... it doesn't work that way ... people on welfare can get into a lot of social programs design to help them ... under Bill clinton he pass welfare laws that say they can only be own welfare for 2 years after that 2 years they are taken off...

Then you wonder why we call you people the uninformed voters.

Welfare is welfare. It doesn't matter if it's section 8, food stamps, Medicaid, welfare checks, it's all welfare. It's taxpayers giving money to people to live on. And it's a hell of a lot more than .008% of our budget.

As for taxes:

Top 20 Percent of Households Pay 94 Percent of Income Taxes

$100K-Plus Earners Pay 72% of Federal Income Taxes

And from FactCheck.org:

But Medicare has three other parts: Part B (which covers physician services and medical supplies not paid for by Part A); Part C (Medicare Advantage, which provides benefits through a private insurance company); and Part D (which is the prescription drug benefit). Medicare Parts B and D are financed through the Supplementary Medical Insurance Trust Fund, or SMI, which is supported mostly by general revenues and premiums paid by beneficiaries. Part C includes Part A and Part B, but is coverage offered through private plans rather than traditional Medicare.

Ryan’s Muddy Medicare Claims

 

[Wilbur Right]

Your post is the perfect example of leftist business ignorance.

You run into a good some of money

You really know how to sum things up there ray ray.

 

[Conservative65]

Your post is the perfect example of leftist business ignorance.

You run into a good some of money

You really know how to sum things up there ray ray.

No one expected you to understand the scenario he provided.

 

[rightwinger]

Lets just follow the money...

Small business saw their wealth increase $5 trillion since 2008
Corporations saw their wealth increase $8 trillion since 2008

Yet they claim wage increases would destroy them. How much of that $13 trillion in added wealth saw its way to increased wages....almost NONE
Has there been an increase in minimum wage since 2008? Conservatives claim business could never afford it

Your post is the perfect example of leftist business ignorance. Instead of me explaining the process, I'll put you into the picture to make the point:

You run into a good some of money, let's say from a small lottery or perhaps a relative passed away. After taxes, your share is about $250,000.

Your house is paid for, your car is paid for, you have no debt or expenses. So what do you do with that money? You invest it.

Since you don't know much about investments, you come here to USMB and I decide to help you. You are looking for a conservative but good growth company. You don't want to take any risks.

After extensive research, I find two companies that sell stock I think would be right for you. Company A had been around for a long time. Their growth is 5.5%. They have a promising future. Company B has also been around a long time. Their growth is 3.1%. Which company would you put your money in?

Before you decide, I forgot to tell you something else: Company A grosses about 1.4 million a year. Company B grosses about 755 million a year. Does that change your mind at all? Of course not.

You could care less how much money a company has. All you're concerned about is growth. The more growth, the better payoff for your investment. So if you decide to put your money in Company A instead of Company B, don't you think most investors would do the same?

Businesses heavily rely on investors to make their business run. If company B decides to overpay all their employees to look good, their investment growth goes from 3.1% to 2.8% or so.

You are looking at the micro economic level and I am talking macro economics. I don't care about company A or company B, I am looking at small business as a whole and corporate America as a whole. $13 trillion in added wealth over the last eight years.
Any claims of poverty in corporate America or small business is unsupported by the numbers. They don't pay higher wages because they don't want to pay higher wages and our government will do nothing about it. They have the workers where they want them and there is nobody to stand up for them

 

[francoHFW]

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

You're a true idiot, Franco.

Masters in History, fluent in 3 languages.Retired. You? Try reading. You just refuse to learn except form Rush and Sean or WHATEVER part of the machine is your poison. Dupe.

Public universities churn out morons by the millions.

Yup, knowledge and intelligence is BAD....stick with the bought off HS grad ex-cokehead DJs for your politics...lol. BTW, I went to prep school, Hobart and U of Rochester. Private.

 

[francoHFW]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

What's a living wage?

$12+

 

[francoHFW]

Republicans want to destroy this country and suck the dick of the people that are offshoring all of our jobs.

Oh brother. You people. You listen to some idiot, that knows almost nothing, and mindlessly repeat it.

Ok, so let's actually look at reality. Why does Wisconsin suck? Because of tax cuts? You moron. You mindless ape.

Wisconsin

Wisconsin's 2016 Business Tax Climate Index Ranks 43rd
Wisconsin ranks 43rd on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index. The Index compares the states in five areas of taxation that impact business: corporate taxes (32nd), individual income taxes (43rd), sales taxes (13th), unemployment insurance taxes (36th), and taxes on property (33rd), including residential and commercial property.

43rd.

Meaning, out of 50 states, there are only 7 states that are worse for business.

This includes corporate taxes, 7.9%, Sales tax 5%, and property tax that averages $1800 per person.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.
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Over all tax collection was 13th highest in the Union.

And as for this ignorant mental case you posted.... here's the facts....

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Wisconsin's economic situation was worse than Minnesota, and the US average, long before the tax cut, and longer than Scott Walker was ever elected.

Wisconsin has been, and still is, a business hostile State. Left-wing policies have made, and continue to make, Wisconsin noncompetitive to the rest of the country.

If that wasn't enough, the left-wingers have been against the logging and paper industry for decades, and Wisconsin's primary industry, is the paper industry, which between the digital age, and the growing paper imports from China, the paper industry in the US is staggering.

Paper Cuts: Wisconsin's paper industry battles the threat of digital, China as a paper power.

And lastly.... Trickle down is how the world works. The only reason there is even ONE JOB in Wisconsin is because of Trickle down.

Everything is trickle down. Everything. Not one single job would exist, without trickle down. It has always worked, and continues to work. And for you, or any other left-winger to even attempt to deny it, only signifies that you are completely and utterly unqualified to talk about the economy, and likely not mentally stable to enough to talk about any topic.

To see how foolish this stupidity is from the left, just consider the counter claim. Are you seriously suggesting that job growth would drastically increase if we just taxed the companies and people leaving Wisconsin at a higher rate? You really think that makes sense in left-tard land? How dumb can any human being be, and still breath, let alone type something this moronic into a forum?

If we just jack up taxes on companies and the public.... why jobs will just pop into existence from all the companies leaving.... yeah brilliant.

Wisconsin ranks among top states people are leaving

Just jack up those taxes dude. Everyone will turn right around "I love paying more taxes!", and head back to Wisconsin. Only the dumbest of left-wing-nuts would post this crap.

As you well know, people are leaving Wisconsin from the major cities, such as Milwaukee, run into ruin by Democrats for decades.

Keep obsessing on one detail, dupe. And absolutely miss the point. Idiot.

The detail I state is the point. The point is your source didn't show what you claimed and you tried to add in things the source doesn't include.

The rich don't pay enough, the middle class and poor too much. What a gd idiot...

Specifically, how is that possible since the lowest 47% of workers pay no income tax?

''As you well know, people are leaving Wisconsin from the major cities, such as Milwaukee, run into ruin by Democrats for decades."
There is white flight from the cities, but you'll find they go to the suburbs. Just typical US racism...And blacks have voted for Dems for years- they know racists are mainly GOP.

That's right. They're voting for the party that the President where it all started said he'd have "those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years". They gladly obliged.

And the racists went over to the GOP...and?

 

[francoHFW]

It truly is amazing how many lies are foisted on the left wingers in this country through the media, universities, and entertainment. It is just unreal how much they reveal to us.

Give us a couple, brainwashed functional moron...