Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[bripat9643]

How does that alter the fact the Obama has racked up $9 trillion in new debt?

Have you ever glanced at the components of that debt? You know...stuff that caused it?

It does not matter.

I don't care why the debt was created, it's still bad. If I spend more money than I make every single year, until I owe $100,000 when I earn $20,000 a year.... do you really think "how" I racked up that much debt is going to make a difference?

When Greece went bust, did "how" they racked up their debt mattered? NO!

So who cares? How does this change anything?

Not all debt is created equal

Going $20,000 in debt for a Vegas vacation is not the same as going $20,000 in debt to replace your roof
I have much more debt than I make in a year, it is a fiscally responsible decision

Well, when you lose your job, and have no money to pay your debts, and you end up in bankruptcy court, I'm sure you can tell the judge how your debts are 'fiscally responsible decisions', and then you will see how much of a difference "not all debts are created equal" really makes.

Now I'm not going to argue with you, about your personal finances, and whether or not your decisions were wise. You make your own choices.

But if you want to tell me that this debt, or that debt is magically 'good' or different... no you are crazy.

I've met people who lost literally everything. And right up to the week their lives fell apart, they had completely rationalized each and every debt. But when you lose your job, and the because you miss your car payments you lose your car, then you can't make it to the new job, so you lose that job, and then since you missed your 6th house payment, you end up foreclosed, and then your wife leaves you because your world is shattered.... and I actually know people who have had this happen.

You know what Warren Buffet says? Top thing Buffet said.... don't borrow money. Go read the stuff he has written about debt. Funny how the left praises Buffet on everything else, but then ignore his practical advice about how to be wealthy.

Ironically I just had this exactly conversation today with a immigrant from India. He bought a car, years ago when he first came here. He realize he had paid the car dealer almost $1,000 worth of interest. He worked over time to pay off the car. And from that point on, never borrowed another penny for anything.

He now has an $80,000 home, which he owns outright, and now he is saving up to purchase another home for $120,000, with cash too. He owns the car he has now, free and clear. And owes no one anything, and has money in the bank.

He told me people kept telling him to get a mortgage and buy the house now, and he would reply, he worked hard for his money. Why give it to the banks?

That's why he's wealthy, and other people are not. You people on the left keep complaining about the banks, but then turning around and giving all your money to the banks.

It cracks me up to hear idiots like Paul Krugman attack the banks bitterly, after he originally supported creating the property bubble in the early 2000s, and then spin right around and say we need to make credit easier to get. There are people in asylums that make more sense.

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

 

[Dr Grump]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

 

[SAYIT]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

It isn't the responsibility of business to determine what constitutes a "living wage" no more than it is their business to determine how their employees should live or think. People are paid market value for their labor according to their skills, education and experience. That's why ball players earn the big bucks.

Unless you own the business in question, what they pay their people is none of your business.

 

[Dr Grump]

It isn't the responsibility of business to determine what constitutes a "living wage" no more than it is their business to determine how their employees should live or think. People are paid market value for their labor according to their skills, education and experience. That's why ball players earn the big bucks.

Unless you own the business in question, what they pay their people is none of your business.

I agree to an extent. However, your attitude is why there are third-world shitholes. It is why people get unionised. People want a fair go. The problem with pure capitalism like the US is that it is all about me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine. What a shitty existence that would be.

 

[bripat9643]

It isn't the responsibility of business to determine what constitutes a "living wage" no more than it is their business to determine how their employees should live or think. People are paid market value for their labor according to their skills, education and experience. That's why ball players earn the big bucks.

Unless you own the business in question, what they pay their people is none of your business.

I agree to an extent. However, your attitude is why there are third-world shitholes. It is why people get unionised. People want a fair go. The problem with pure capitalism like the US is that it is all about me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine. What a shitty existence that would be.

Third world shitholes are caused by the economic policies you advocate. If you think socialism isn't about me, me, me and mine, mine, mine, they you're a damn fool.

 

[francoHFW]

Have you ever glanced at the components of that debt? You know...stuff that caused it?

It does not matter.

I don't care why the debt was created, it's still bad. If I spend more money than I make every single year, until I owe $100,000 when I earn $20,000 a year.... do you really think "how" I racked up that much debt is going to make a difference?

When Greece went bust, did "how" they racked up their debt mattered? NO!

So who cares? How does this change anything?

Not all debt is created equal

Going $20,000 in debt for a Vegas vacation is not the same as going $20,000 in debt to replace your roof
I have much more debt than I make in a year, it is a fiscally responsible decision

Well, when you lose your job, and have no money to pay your debts, and you end up in bankruptcy court, I'm sure you can tell the judge how your debts are 'fiscally responsible decisions', and then you will see how much of a difference "not all debts are created equal" really makes.

Now I'm not going to argue with you, about your personal finances, and whether or not your decisions were wise. You make your own choices.

But if you want to tell me that this debt, or that debt is magically 'good' or different... no you are crazy.

I've met people who lost literally everything. And right up to the week their lives fell apart, they had completely rationalized each and every debt. But when you lose your job, and the because you miss your car payments you lose your car, then you can't make it to the new job, so you lose that job, and then since you missed your 6th house payment, you end up foreclosed, and then your wife leaves you because your world is shattered.... and I actually know people who have had this happen.

You know what Warren Buffet says? Top thing Buffet said.... don't borrow money. Go read the stuff he has written about debt. Funny how the left praises Buffet on everything else, but then ignore his practical advice about how to be wealthy.

Ironically I just had this exactly conversation today with a immigrant from India. He bought a car, years ago when he first came here. He realize he had paid the car dealer almost $1,000 worth of interest. He worked over time to pay off the car. And from that point on, never borrowed another penny for anything.

He now has an $80,000 home, which he owns outright, and now he is saving up to purchase another home for $120,000, with cash too. He owns the car he has now, free and clear. And owes no one anything, and has money in the bank.

He told me people kept telling him to get a mortgage and buy the house now, and he would reply, he worked hard for his money. Why give it to the banks?

That's why he's wealthy, and other people are not. You people on the left keep complaining about the banks, but then turning around and giving all your money to the banks.

It cracks me up to hear idiots like Paul Krugman attack the banks bitterly, after he originally supported creating the property bubble in the early 2000s, and then spin right around and say we need to make credit easier to get. There are people in asylums that make more sense.

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

 

[bripat9643]

It does not matter.

I don't care why the debt was created, it's still bad. If I spend more money than I make every single year, until I owe $100,000 when I earn $20,000 a year.... do you really think "how" I racked up that much debt is going to make a difference?

When Greece went bust, did "how" they racked up their debt mattered? NO!

So who cares? How does this change anything?

Not all debt is created equal

Going $20,000 in debt for a Vegas vacation is not the same as going $20,000 in debt to replace your roof
I have much more debt than I make in a year, it is a fiscally responsible decision

Well, when you lose your job, and have no money to pay your debts, and you end up in bankruptcy court, I'm sure you can tell the judge how your debts are 'fiscally responsible decisions', and then you will see how much of a difference "not all debts are created equal" really makes.

Now I'm not going to argue with you, about your personal finances, and whether or not your decisions were wise. You make your own choices.

But if you want to tell me that this debt, or that debt is magically 'good' or different... no you are crazy.

I've met people who lost literally everything. And right up to the week their lives fell apart, they had completely rationalized each and every debt. But when you lose your job, and the because you miss your car payments you lose your car, then you can't make it to the new job, so you lose that job, and then since you missed your 6th house payment, you end up foreclosed, and then your wife leaves you because your world is shattered.... and I actually know people who have had this happen.

You know what Warren Buffet says? Top thing Buffet said.... don't borrow money. Go read the stuff he has written about debt. Funny how the left praises Buffet on everything else, but then ignore his practical advice about how to be wealthy.

Ironically I just had this exactly conversation today with a immigrant from India. He bought a car, years ago when he first came here. He realize he had paid the car dealer almost $1,000 worth of interest. He worked over time to pay off the car. And from that point on, never borrowed another penny for anything.

He now has an $80,000 home, which he owns outright, and now he is saving up to purchase another home for $120,000, with cash too. He owns the car he has now, free and clear. And owes no one anything, and has money in the bank.

He told me people kept telling him to get a mortgage and buy the house now, and he would reply, he worked hard for his money. Why give it to the banks?

That's why he's wealthy, and other people are not. You people on the left keep complaining about the banks, but then turning around and giving all your money to the banks.

It cracks me up to hear idiots like Paul Krugman attack the banks bitterly, after he originally supported creating the property bubble in the early 2000s, and then spin right around and say we need to make credit easier to get. There are people in asylums that make more sense.

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

You're a true idiot, Franco.

 

[francoHFW]

It isn't the responsibility of business to determine what constitutes a "living wage" no more than it is their business to determine how their employees should live or think. People are paid market value for their labor according to their skills, education and experience. That's why ball players earn the big bucks.

Unless you own the business in question, what they pay their people is none of your business.

I agree to an extent. However, your attitude is why there are third-world shitholes. It is why people get unionised. People want a fair go. The problem with pure capitalism like the US is that it is all about me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine. What a shitty existence that would be.

Third world shitholes are caused by the economic policies you advocate. If you think socialism isn't about me, me, me and mine, mine, mine, they you're a damn fool.

BS. And the New BS GOP keeps our system unfair. Tax rates and NO! investment. Great job!

 

[francoHFW]

Not all debt is created equal

Going $20,000 in debt for a Vegas vacation is not the same as going $20,000 in debt to replace your roof
I have much more debt than I make in a year, it is a fiscally responsible decision

Well, when you lose your job, and have no money to pay your debts, and you end up in bankruptcy court, I'm sure you can tell the judge how your debts are 'fiscally responsible decisions', and then you will see how much of a difference "not all debts are created equal" really makes.

Now I'm not going to argue with you, about your personal finances, and whether or not your decisions were wise. You make your own choices.

But if you want to tell me that this debt, or that debt is magically 'good' or different... no you are crazy.

I've met people who lost literally everything. And right up to the week their lives fell apart, they had completely rationalized each and every debt. But when you lose your job, and the because you miss your car payments you lose your car, then you can't make it to the new job, so you lose that job, and then since you missed your 6th house payment, you end up foreclosed, and then your wife leaves you because your world is shattered.... and I actually know people who have had this happen.

You know what Warren Buffet says? Top thing Buffet said.... don't borrow money. Go read the stuff he has written about debt. Funny how the left praises Buffet on everything else, but then ignore his practical advice about how to be wealthy.

Ironically I just had this exactly conversation today with a immigrant from India. He bought a car, years ago when he first came here. He realize he had paid the car dealer almost $1,000 worth of interest. He worked over time to pay off the car. And from that point on, never borrowed another penny for anything.

He now has an $80,000 home, which he owns outright, and now he is saving up to purchase another home for $120,000, with cash too. He owns the car he has now, free and clear. And owes no one anything, and has money in the bank.

He told me people kept telling him to get a mortgage and buy the house now, and he would reply, he worked hard for his money. Why give it to the banks?

That's why he's wealthy, and other people are not. You people on the left keep complaining about the banks, but then turning around and giving all your money to the banks.

It cracks me up to hear idiots like Paul Krugman attack the banks bitterly, after he originally supported creating the property bubble in the early 2000s, and then spin right around and say we need to make credit easier to get. There are people in asylums that make more sense.

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

You're a true idiot, Franco.

Masters in History, fluent in 3 languages.Retired. You? Try reading. You just refuse to learn except form Rush and Sean or WHATEVER part of the machine is your poison. Dupe.

 

[bripat9643]

Well, when you lose your job, and have no money to pay your debts, and you end up in bankruptcy court, I'm sure you can tell the judge how your debts are 'fiscally responsible decisions', and then you will see how much of a difference "not all debts are created equal" really makes.

Now I'm not going to argue with you, about your personal finances, and whether or not your decisions were wise. You make your own choices.

But if you want to tell me that this debt, or that debt is magically 'good' or different... no you are crazy.

I've met people who lost literally everything. And right up to the week their lives fell apart, they had completely rationalized each and every debt. But when you lose your job, and the because you miss your car payments you lose your car, then you can't make it to the new job, so you lose that job, and then since you missed your 6th house payment, you end up foreclosed, and then your wife leaves you because your world is shattered.... and I actually know people who have had this happen.

You know what Warren Buffet says? Top thing Buffet said.... don't borrow money. Go read the stuff he has written about debt. Funny how the left praises Buffet on everything else, but then ignore his practical advice about how to be wealthy.

Ironically I just had this exactly conversation today with a immigrant from India. He bought a car, years ago when he first came here. He realize he had paid the car dealer almost $1,000 worth of interest. He worked over time to pay off the car. And from that point on, never borrowed another penny for anything.

He now has an $80,000 home, which he owns outright, and now he is saving up to purchase another home for $120,000, with cash too. He owns the car he has now, free and clear. And owes no one anything, and has money in the bank.

He told me people kept telling him to get a mortgage and buy the house now, and he would reply, he worked hard for his money. Why give it to the banks?

That's why he's wealthy, and other people are not. You people on the left keep complaining about the banks, but then turning around and giving all your money to the banks.

It cracks me up to hear idiots like Paul Krugman attack the banks bitterly, after he originally supported creating the property bubble in the early 2000s, and then spin right around and say we need to make credit easier to get. There are people in asylums that make more sense.

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

You're a true idiot, Franco.

Masters in History, fluent in 3 languages.Retired. You? Try reading. You just refuse to learn except form Rush and Sean or WHATEVER part of the machine is your poison. Dupe.

Public universities churn out morons by the millions.

 

[Conservative65]

Your source doesn't show fees. When you add it after the fact without proof that what you say is what you say, the only thing that counts if what the chart shows. Not my fault you can't add.

If only you could think, dupe....

All I needed to do was look at the chart you posted and that it didn't say what you claimed it said. I don't have to think you're an idiot and a liar, I know because I've thought about it.

Keep obsessing on one detail, dupe. And absolutely miss the point. Idiot.

The detail I state is the point. The point is your source didn't show what you claimed and you tried to add in things the source doesn't include.

The rich don't pay enough, the middle class and poor too much. What a gd idiot...

Are you still on that tripe?

The poor pay NOTHING in the way of income taxes. Many of them get handouts funded by those very taxes they don't pay. If they pay sales taxes, that's a choice. If they pay property taxes, that's a choice. If they pay taxes on things like cigarettes, that's a choice.

 

[Conservative65]

Well, when you lose your job, and have no money to pay your debts, and you end up in bankruptcy court, I'm sure you can tell the judge how your debts are 'fiscally responsible decisions', and then you will see how much of a difference "not all debts are created equal" really makes.

Now I'm not going to argue with you, about your personal finances, and whether or not your decisions were wise. You make your own choices.

But if you want to tell me that this debt, or that debt is magically 'good' or different... no you are crazy.

I've met people who lost literally everything. And right up to the week their lives fell apart, they had completely rationalized each and every debt. But when you lose your job, and the because you miss your car payments you lose your car, then you can't make it to the new job, so you lose that job, and then since you missed your 6th house payment, you end up foreclosed, and then your wife leaves you because your world is shattered.... and I actually know people who have had this happen.

You know what Warren Buffet says? Top thing Buffet said.... don't borrow money. Go read the stuff he has written about debt. Funny how the left praises Buffet on everything else, but then ignore his practical advice about how to be wealthy.

Ironically I just had this exactly conversation today with a immigrant from India. He bought a car, years ago when he first came here. He realize he had paid the car dealer almost $1,000 worth of interest. He worked over time to pay off the car. And from that point on, never borrowed another penny for anything.

He now has an $80,000 home, which he owns outright, and now he is saving up to purchase another home for $120,000, with cash too. He owns the car he has now, free and clear. And owes no one anything, and has money in the bank.

He told me people kept telling him to get a mortgage and buy the house now, and he would reply, he worked hard for his money. Why give it to the banks?

That's why he's wealthy, and other people are not. You people on the left keep complaining about the banks, but then turning around and giving all your money to the banks.

It cracks me up to hear idiots like Paul Krugman attack the banks bitterly, after he originally supported creating the property bubble in the early 2000s, and then spin right around and say we need to make credit easier to get. There are people in asylums that make more sense.

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

You're a true idiot, Franco.

Masters in History, fluent in 3 languages.Retired. You? Try reading. You just refuse to learn except form Rush and Sean or WHATEVER part of the machine is your poison. Dupe.

Prove it by showing the diplomas with supporting evidences it's you.

 

[Conservative65]

That's what those in business do. They tell others they're paying to do things what to do. Don't like it, start your own business.

Part of what I do is in construction. I do it in addition to my full time job. I flip houses. While my full time work schedule prevents me from doing more of what you call menial labor, when I get a chance I do much of the work myself. That way when I sell what I've flipped, I make more.

Weekends free? It's easy to tell you're a worker. Can't remember the last time I didn't do something on a weekend. The only thing socialists have done related to that is take more of what I've earned to give to some worthless freeloader that thinks it's owed to him.

You got that right. I haven't been on a vacation in over 35 years. I have too much work to do around here at the apartments to consider going to Florida or Hawaii; probably never will either. I use all my vacation time from work to stay home and catch up on various projects.

Too bad for you

I'm a liberal and I have been to Hawaii twice, the Carribean, a Mediterranean cruise

We get free stuff

Prove you've been there.

 

[Conservative65]

You figure it out but unless you can, your claims are dismissed for lack of proof.

Moron, I'll help you out - it's not provable without handing over to some weirdo like you a lot of personal information, which I have no interest in.

I know what I make and what I pay in taxes so I KNOW you are full of shit.

I'll help you out. You made a claim you can't prove and the only source you provide it YOU. Your claim is dismissed.

 

[owebo]

There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.

Absolutely people should be paid a living wage. You want the US to turn into a third-world shithole?

What's a living wage?

 

[owebo]

Well, when you lose your job, and have no money to pay your debts, and you end up in bankruptcy court, I'm sure you can tell the judge how your debts are 'fiscally responsible decisions', and then you will see how much of a difference "not all debts are created equal" really makes.

Now I'm not going to argue with you, about your personal finances, and whether or not your decisions were wise. You make your own choices.

But if you want to tell me that this debt, or that debt is magically 'good' or different... no you are crazy.

I've met people who lost literally everything. And right up to the week their lives fell apart, they had completely rationalized each and every debt. But when you lose your job, and the because you miss your car payments you lose your car, then you can't make it to the new job, so you lose that job, and then since you missed your 6th house payment, you end up foreclosed, and then your wife leaves you because your world is shattered.... and I actually know people who have had this happen.

You know what Warren Buffet says? Top thing Buffet said.... don't borrow money. Go read the stuff he has written about debt. Funny how the left praises Buffet on everything else, but then ignore his practical advice about how to be wealthy.

Ironically I just had this exactly conversation today with a immigrant from India. He bought a car, years ago when he first came here. He realize he had paid the car dealer almost $1,000 worth of interest. He worked over time to pay off the car. And from that point on, never borrowed another penny for anything.

He now has an $80,000 home, which he owns outright, and now he is saving up to purchase another home for $120,000, with cash too. He owns the car he has now, free and clear. And owes no one anything, and has money in the bank.

He told me people kept telling him to get a mortgage and buy the house now, and he would reply, he worked hard for his money. Why give it to the banks?

That's why he's wealthy, and other people are not. You people on the left keep complaining about the banks, but then turning around and giving all your money to the banks.

It cracks me up to hear idiots like Paul Krugman attack the banks bitterly, after he originally supported creating the property bubble in the early 2000s, and then spin right around and say we need to make credit easier to get. There are people in asylums that make more sense.

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

You're a true idiot, Franco.

Masters in History, fluent in 3 languages.Retired. You? Try reading. You just refuse to learn except form Rush and Sean or WHATEVER part of the machine is your poison. Dupe.

Communist history?

 

[Conservative65]

Sarcasm? Your admission you're a loser

If you're the definition of a winner, I'd take being a loser every time..

If Kaz supports Trump, he's a loser already......

2016 Election: Clinton vs. Trump

You were a loser the day you were shit out.

 

[owebo]

The banks and countrywide etc that the BOOOSHIES let run wild. A lot of people liked it before the assets turned out to be toxic. Great job, GOP!

The whole middle class has gone to hell under Reaganism. See sig- 2007.Paragraph one.

The assets were toxic because the feds forced banks to grant mortgages to people who were bad credit risks.

The hell they did, dupe. the Boooshies just let them run wild- their pals and cronies. Great job!

You're a true idiot, Franco.

Masters in History, fluent in 3 languages.Retired. You? Try reading. You just refuse to learn except form Rush and Sean or WHATEVER part of the machine is your poison. Dupe.

Public universities churn out morons by the millions.

It's embarrassing.....the world laughs at us.....

 

[Conservative65]

Republicans want to destroy this country and suck the dick of the people that are offshoring all of our jobs.

Oh brother. You people. You listen to some idiot, that knows almost nothing, and mindlessly repeat it.

Ok, so let's actually look at reality. Why does Wisconsin suck? Because of tax cuts? You moron. You mindless ape.

Wisconsin

Wisconsin's 2016 Business Tax Climate Index Ranks 43rd
Wisconsin ranks 43rd on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index. The Index compares the states in five areas of taxation that impact business: corporate taxes (32nd), individual income taxes (43rd), sales taxes (13th), unemployment insurance taxes (36th), and taxes on property (33rd), including residential and commercial property.

43rd.

Meaning, out of 50 states, there are only 7 states that are worse for business.

This includes corporate taxes, 7.9%, Sales tax 5%, and property tax that averages $1800 per person.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.

Wisconsin's individual income tax system consists of 4 brackets with a top rate of 7.65%. The top rate ranks 9th highest among states levying an individual income tax. Wisconsin's state and local tax collections per person were $1,258 in 2013, which ranked 13th highest nationally.
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Over all tax collection was 13th highest in the Union.

And as for this ignorant mental case you posted.... here's the facts....

View attachment 85474

Wisconsin's economic situation was worse than Minnesota, and the US average, long before the tax cut, and longer than Scott Walker was ever elected.

Wisconsin has been, and still is, a business hostile State. Left-wing policies have made, and continue to make, Wisconsin noncompetitive to the rest of the country.

If that wasn't enough, the left-wingers have been against the logging and paper industry for decades, and Wisconsin's primary industry, is the paper industry, which between the digital age, and the growing paper imports from China, the paper industry in the US is staggering.

Paper Cuts: Wisconsin's paper industry battles the threat of digital, China as a paper power.

And lastly.... Trickle down is how the world works. The only reason there is even ONE JOB in Wisconsin is because of Trickle down.

Everything is trickle down. Everything. Not one single job would exist, without trickle down. It has always worked, and continues to work. And for you, or any other left-winger to even attempt to deny it, only signifies that you are completely and utterly unqualified to talk about the economy, and likely not mentally stable to enough to talk about any topic.

To see how foolish this stupidity is from the left, just consider the counter claim. Are you seriously suggesting that job growth would drastically increase if we just taxed the companies and people leaving Wisconsin at a higher rate? You really think that makes sense in left-tard land? How dumb can any human being be, and still breath, let alone type something this moronic into a forum?

If we just jack up taxes on companies and the public.... why jobs will just pop into existence from all the companies leaving.... yeah brilliant.

Wisconsin ranks among top states people are leaving

Just jack up those taxes dude. Everyone will turn right around "I love paying more taxes!", and head back to Wisconsin. Only the dumbest of left-wing-nuts would post this crap.

As you well know, people are leaving Wisconsin from the major cities, such as Milwaukee, run into ruin by Democrats for decades.

All I needed to do was look at the chart you posted and that it didn't say what you claimed it said. I don't have to think you're an idiot and a liar, I know because I've thought about it.

Keep obsessing on one detail, dupe. And absolutely miss the point. Idiot.

The detail I state is the point. The point is your source didn't show what you claimed and you tried to add in things the source doesn't include.

The rich don't pay enough, the middle class and poor too much. What a gd idiot...

Specifically, how is that possible since the lowest 47% of workers pay no income tax?

Means nothing, dupe.

Your chart doesn't show what you say it shows. You said EVERYONE paid between 20 - 30%. That's NOT true, liar.

 

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That's what those in business do. They tell others they're paying to do things what to do. Don't like it, start your own business.

Part of what I do is in construction. I do it in addition to my full time job. I flip houses. While my full time work schedule prevents me from doing more of what you call menial labor, when I get a chance I do much of the work myself. That way when I sell what I've flipped, I make more.

Weekends free? It's easy to tell you're a worker. Can't remember the last time I didn't do something on a weekend. The only thing socialists have done related to that is take more of what I've earned to give to some worthless freeloader that thinks it's owed to him.

You got that right. I haven't been on a vacation in over 35 years. I have too much work to do around here at the apartments to consider going to Florida or Hawaii; probably never will either. I use all my vacation time from work to stay home and catch up on various projects.

That's a shame. There is so much to see and have your breath taken away.

A cliche, but true, I've never heard anyone on their deathbed say they wished they had taken fewer vacations and worked more hours.

A right to at least 4 weeks of paid vacation also makes the Euros better citizens of the world. They all much prefer that to more money...

You don't have a right to ANY vacation.

More typical Liberal bullshit where people get something for nothing. Someone comes to me saying I have a right to 4 weeks vacation, they'll get 52.