Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[francoHFW]

Totally duped and hateful. Change the channel or GTH.

I'm not the one that posted a chart claiming it said something it didn't. When called on it, you wanted to include something the chart didn't include saying ALMOST.

What I said if fact. Freeloaders on social welfare don't pay the taxes that fund their handouts whether they are funded on the federal level or state/local level. If you consider that hateful, they you hate facts. It's not any group's responsibility to support another group that can't get the job. No one owes another person a damn thing.

My point is that the rich don't pay enough, the middle class too much, and the usual GOP bs that the poor pay nothing is crazy brainwashed nonsense. Include fees and they pay about what I always said. Try and get past it. lol

Believe me, we understand that was your point ... too bad it's invalid, and rooted in a simple ignorance of economics.

How so, dingbat dupe?

What would you say is the biggest consideration people make when deciding whether or not to buy a good or use a service?

What is the #1 purpose for a business.

Lack of guts? lol

 

[JQPublic1]

My point is that to build wealth you have to have people working for you for a small portion of what YOU gain from their labor!

Only in some cases. Look at those millionaire professional athletes, the entertainment sector such as Hollywood or the music industry, hedge fund managers, commodities traders, real estate tycoons........

As for those in actual industry, yes, they have people working for them. What's your point? Every worker who takes a job offered from somebody else realizes they are going to make their employer a lot of money. There is nothing wrong with that. I've never taken a job with the expectation that my salary would move along with the profit of a company or the owners paycheck. I agreed to do X job for X amount of money and benefits. Providing my employer lives up to his agreement, I live up to mine. End of story.

If you don't see anything wrong with 20% of the population owning 84% of the wealth and gaining more every year something is wrong with YOU.

 

[JQPublic1]

When you make up your own stories there is no turning back. Facts don't matter...

Are you saying someone having a third child despite already having two they can't support and living on social welfare doesn't get more if that third child is born?

Are you having a conversation with yourself? Apparently you are and you have done a wonderful job of convincing yourself that your word is gospel irregardless of the facts.

I asked you a question you don't seem to be able to and/or have the guts to answer.

No, I wasn't saying what you say I said. Wow, that took a lot of guts ….

What you didn't do is answer a simple question. Wow, that shows a lack of guts.

I answered your question,. If you are too dumb to comprehend the answer I can't help you! ANd don't worry about my "guts." I served honorably…did YOU?

 

[JQPublic1]

It's called quantitive easing. It's where the feds pumped in trillions of dollars to over inflate the stock market. That's why the rich have never been richer than under DumBama.

The rich have taken wealth from the middle-class? How? When? I'm middle-class, and I can't seem to remember getting a bill from corporate America to give them money.

The middle-class is shrinking? Well gee, we have 94 million Americans of working age not working nor looking for a job. Think that has something to do with it? Think those foreigners jumping the border and taking our jobs for next to nothing has something to do with it? How can you not have a shrinking middle-class when over 1/3 of your workers don't work and don't want to?

Naaah, that can't be it. It must be the rich peoples fault.

You have people that don't want to work and JQP1 can't understand why they don't accumulate wealth.

Stop lying I never said that! What I see is that some people work two or three jobs and =never get ahead. Some workers have never gotten an increase in salary in years even though the owners of their companies saw huge profits for years. SOme workers now do the work of two employees t because of cuts to the workforce…even as the profits rolled in. Why would I complain about people who don't work when people that do work are getting screwed over…? You are a stupid, byatch!

If someone works three jobs and can't get ahead, it's not that they are making too little but spending too much. When you have $20,000/year skills you can't live a $200,000 year lifestyle.

If someone hasn't received an increase in pay in a couple of years yet they stay where they are, it's their fault. If they're so good at what they do, why don't they become the boss and start their own business.

Stop being silly. If you make $20,000 a year it is impossible to live a $200,000 a year lifestyle. A family of 4 is impoverished if their income is 20,000. And their kids will have to go to school wearing second hand clothing and worn shoes. They will have to suffer all the indignations other more affluent kids heap upon them. If they do graduate from high school, college is out of the question unless they get an academic or athletic scholarship. But all too often, the damage done by poverty has already taken it's toll and the kids drop out to become fringe elements in an unsympathetic society.

That being said I want to make it clear that I am not talking about Black kids only. The face of poverty in America is White.

That's the point. People with skills to only make $20,000/year want to live like they make $200,000/year and when they can't, they blame others for why they only make that amount. Their answer, rather than doing something to increase it, is to tax those more than make $200,000 so the money can be used to offset their lack of skills.

Your entire rant makes it out as if those on the higher economic end OWE something to those on the lower end. That simply isn't true.

What the fuck are you talking about?Most Americans are in debt over their heads. Just getting a decent education leaves millions of them with oppressive debt. And heaven help any of those with such debt if they become seriously ill. They are doomed for decades.
See how that works? Further, too many go to colleges promising them success and come out with worthless degrees. Tack on credit card debt, rent, food and clothing PLUS TAX and the wealth of which you speak is reduced to a paycheck to paycheck existence.

Millions of middle class Americans have NO savings at all as a result of their oppressive debts…Debt accumulated in the name of trying to live a middle class lifestyle. Hmmm. I guess I am agreeing with you here except these people make more than $20,000 a year. These high earning, debt ridden college educated clones are the people you suggest poor people are trying to emulate by spending more than they should. And the rich get richer

Look, fella. Some of the ultra rich throw a few crumbs to their poorer compatriots through charity or other philanthropic devices.
But, if their political stewards,in the GOP had their way, there wouldn't be a middle class. The middle class is disappearing and you fiddle while Rome burns!

 

[Conservative65]

I'm not the one that posted a chart claiming it said something it didn't. When called on it, you wanted to include something the chart didn't include saying ALMOST.

What I said if fact. Freeloaders on social welfare don't pay the taxes that fund their handouts whether they are funded on the federal level or state/local level. If you consider that hateful, they you hate facts. It's not any group's responsibility to support another group that can't get the job. No one owes another person a damn thing.

My point is that the rich don't pay enough, the middle class too much, and the usual GOP bs that the poor pay nothing is crazy brainwashed nonsense. Include fees and they pay about what I always said. Try and get past it. lol

Believe me, we understand that was your point ... too bad it's invalid, and rooted in a simple ignorance of economics.

How so, dingbat dupe?

What would you say is the biggest consideration people make when deciding whether or not to buy a good or use a service?

What is the #1 purpose for a business.

Lack of guts? lol

Thanks for the proof you have no concept and understanding of economics.

 

[Conservative65]

Are you saying someone having a third child despite already having two they can't support and living on social welfare doesn't get more if that third child is born?

Are you having a conversation with yourself? Apparently you are and you have done a wonderful job of convincing yourself that your word is gospel irregardless of the facts.

I asked you a question you don't seem to be able to and/or have the guts to answer.

No, I wasn't saying what you say I said. Wow, that took a lot of guts ….

What you didn't do is answer a simple question. Wow, that shows a lack of guts.

I answered your question,. If you are too dumb to comprehend the answer I can't help you! ANd don't worry about my "guts." I served honorably…did YOU?

You provided AN answer. The problem is it wasn't to the question I asked.

You have no guts. If you served, it was taxpayer money wasted.

As far as someone serving honorably, I can answer a simple question with yes. Seems you can't do the same.

 

[Windship]

.[/QUOTE]
If you don't see anything wrong with 20% of the population owning 84% of the wealth and gaining more every year something is wrong with YOU.[/QUOTE]

Its because they dont understand what it means.

 

[Conservative65]

You have people that don't want to work and JQP1 can't understand why they don't accumulate wealth.

Stop lying I never said that! What I see is that some people work two or three jobs and =never get ahead. Some workers have never gotten an increase in salary in years even though the owners of their companies saw huge profits for years. SOme workers now do the work of two employees t because of cuts to the workforce…even as the profits rolled in. Why would I complain about people who don't work when people that do work are getting screwed over…? You are a stupid, byatch!

If someone works three jobs and can't get ahead, it's not that they are making too little but spending too much. When you have $20,000/year skills you can't live a $200,000 year lifestyle.

If someone hasn't received an increase in pay in a couple of years yet they stay where they are, it's their fault. If they're so good at what they do, why don't they become the boss and start their own business.

Stop being silly. If you make $20,000 a year it is impossible to live a $200,000 a year lifestyle. A family of 4 is impoverished if their income is 20,000. And their kids will have to go to school wearing second hand clothing and worn shoes. They will have to suffer all the indignations other more affluent kids heap upon them. If they do graduate from high school, college is out of the question unless they get an academic or athletic scholarship. But all too often, the damage done by poverty has already taken it's toll and the kids drop out to become fringe elements in an unsympathetic society.

That being said I want to make it clear that I am not talking about Black kids only. The face of poverty in America is White.

That's the point. People with skills to only make $20,000/year want to live like they make $200,000/year and when they can't, they blame others for why they only make that amount. Their answer, rather than doing something to increase it, is to tax those more than make $200,000 so the money can be used to offset their lack of skills.

Your entire rant makes it out as if those on the higher economic end OWE something to those on the lower end. That simply isn't true.

What the fuck are you talking about?Most Americans are in debt over their heads. Just getting a decent education leaves millions of them with oppressive debt. And heaven help any of those with such debt if they become seriously ill. They are doomed for decades.
See how that works? Further, too many go to colleges promising them success and come out with worthless degrees. Tack on credit card debt, rent, food and clothing PLUS TAX and the wealth of which you speak is reduced to a paycheck to paycheck existence.

Millions of middle class Americans have NO savings at all as a result of their oppressive debts…Debt accumulated in the name of trying to live a middle class lifestyle. Hmmm. I guess I am agreeing with you here except these people make more than $20,000 a year. These high earning, debt ridden college educated clones are the people you suggest poor people are trying to emulate by spending more than they should. And the rich get richer

Look, fella. Some of the ultra rich throw a few crumbs to their poorer compatriots through charity or other philanthropic devices.
But, if their political stewards,in the GOP had their way, there wouldn't be a middle class. The middle class is disappearing and you fiddle while Rome burns!

If, as you say, most American have that much debt, quit taking it on. No one forced them to do that. They chose to do it.

The colleges didn't pick the worthless degree, the student did.

Trying to live a middle class lifestyle on a low class income isn't the fault of anyone but the one trying to do that. It's not the fault of anyone but the choice maker.

You say the rich throw a few crumbs as if one person owes another person anything. No one owes me, you, or anyone else a damn thing. You owe yourself and if you aren't willing to do for yourself, do without. I don't give a shit.

 

[JQPublic1]

Are you having a conversation with yourself? Apparently you are and you have done a wonderful job of convincing yourself that your word is gospel irregardless of the facts.

I asked you a question you don't seem to be able to and/or have the guts to answer.

No, I wasn't saying what you say I said. Wow, that took a lot of guts ….

What you didn't do is answer a simple question. Wow, that shows a lack of guts.

I answered your question,. If you are too dumb to comprehend the answer I can't help you! ANd don't worry about my "guts." I served honorably…did YOU?

You provided AN answer. The problem is it wasn't to the question I asked.

You have no guts. If you served, it was taxpayer money wasted.

As far as someone serving honorably, I can answer a simple question with yes. Seems you can't do the same.

I've got more guts than you will ever have metaphorically speaking but I admit you have a bigger gut than I do, ya friggin BIGGUT!

 

[JQPublic1]

Stop lying I never said that! What I see is that some people work two or three jobs and =never get ahead. Some workers have never gotten an increase in salary in years even though the owners of their companies saw huge profits for years. SOme workers now do the work of two employees t because of cuts to the workforce…even as the profits rolled in. Why would I complain about people who don't work when people that do work are getting screwed over…? You are a stupid, byatch!

If someone works three jobs and can't get ahead, it's not that they are making too little but spending too much. When you have $20,000/year skills you can't live a $200,000 year lifestyle.

If someone hasn't received an increase in pay in a couple of years yet they stay where they are, it's their fault. If they're so good at what they do, why don't they become the boss and start their own business.

Stop being silly. If you make $20,000 a year it is impossible to live a $200,000 a year lifestyle. A family of 4 is impoverished if their income is 20,000. And their kids will have to go to school wearing second hand clothing and worn shoes. They will have to suffer all the indignations other more affluent kids heap upon them. If they do graduate from high school, college is out of the question unless they get an academic or athletic scholarship. But all too often, the damage done by poverty has already taken it's toll and the kids drop out to become fringe elements in an unsympathetic society.

That being said I want to make it clear that I am not talking about Black kids only. The face of poverty in America is White.

That's the point. People with skills to only make $20,000/year want to live like they make $200,000/year and when they can't, they blame others for why they only make that amount. Their answer, rather than doing something to increase it, is to tax those more than make $200,000 so the money can be used to offset their lack of skills.

Your entire rant makes it out as if those on the higher economic end OWE something to those on the lower end. That simply isn't true.

What the fuck are you talking about?Most Americans are in debt over their heads. Just getting a decent education leaves millions of them with oppressive debt. And heaven help any of those with such debt if they become seriously ill. They are doomed for decades.
See how that works? Further, too many go to colleges promising them success and come out with worthless degrees. Tack on credit card debt, rent, food and clothing PLUS TAX and the wealth of which you speak is reduced to a paycheck to paycheck existence.

Millions of middle class Americans have NO savings at all as a result of their oppressive debts…Debt accumulated in the name of trying to live a middle class lifestyle. Hmmm. I guess I am agreeing with you here except these people make more than $20,000 a year. These high earning, debt ridden college educated clones are the people you suggest poor people are trying to emulate by spending more than they should. And the rich get richer

Look, fella. Some of the ultra rich throw a few crumbs to their poorer compatriots through charity or other philanthropic devices.
But, if their political stewards,in the GOP had their way, there wouldn't be a middle class. The middle class is disappearing and you fiddle while Rome burns!

If, as you say, most American have that much debt, quit taking it on. No one forced them to do that. They chose to do it.

The colleges didn't pick the worthless degree, the student did.

Trying to live a middle class lifestyle on a low class income isn't the fault of anyone but the one trying to do that. It's not the fault of anyone but the choice maker.

You say the rich throw a few crumbs as if one person owes another person anything. No one owes me, you, or anyone else a damn thing. You owe yourself and if you aren't willing to do for yourself, do without. I don't give a shit.

Pay attention. I am are talking about middle class White people who make way more than 20,000 dollars a year. They are struggling with college and credit card debt, mortgages ,health insurance and auto payments /Insurance. Some have graduated from college only to return to their parents home to live in the BASEMENT.

Poor people generally can't even get credit because they can't qualify for anything more than the usurious rates offered by loan sharks. But some have no choice and they fall into the trap just as their well paid American neighbors do. MIss a payment and even the mainstream credit card companies jack up the rates and report you to one of the three credit bureaus…thereby ruining your credit and hindering you even further.

Lets make your statement "No one owes me, you, or anyone else a damn thing.: ring true. Lets do away with credit altogether. Can you even imagine what will happen then?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Poor people generally can't even get credit because they can't qualify for anything more than the usurious rates offered by loan sharks. But some have no choice and they fall into the trap just as their well paid American neighbors do. MIss a payment and even the mainstream credit card companies jack up the rates and report you to one of the three credit bureaus…thereby ruining your credit and hindering you even further.

Oh yes, yet another thing DumBama and the Democrats fixed for Americans.

12 consumer protections in the Credit CARD Act

 

[Conservative65]

I asked you a question you don't seem to be able to and/or have the guts to answer.

No, I wasn't saying what you say I said. Wow, that took a lot of guts ….

What you didn't do is answer a simple question. Wow, that shows a lack of guts.

I answered your question,. If you are too dumb to comprehend the answer I can't help you! ANd don't worry about my "guts." I served honorably…did YOU?

You provided AN answer. The problem is it wasn't to the question I asked.

You have no guts. If you served, it was taxpayer money wasted.

As far as someone serving honorably, I can answer a simple question with yes. Seems you can't do the same.

I've got more guts than you will ever have metaphorically speaking but I admit you have a bigger gut than I do, ya friggin BIGGUT!

Whatever makes you feel better, BOY. I'm so far ahead of you intellectually, educationally, financially, and anything else on that scale you think you're in first place. You'll always be behind me and never catch up.

 

[Conservative65]

If someone works three jobs and can't get ahead, it's not that they are making too little but spending too much. When you have $20,000/year skills you can't live a $200,000 year lifestyle.

If someone hasn't received an increase in pay in a couple of years yet they stay where they are, it's their fault. If they're so good at what they do, why don't they become the boss and start their own business.

Stop being silly. If you make $20,000 a year it is impossible to live a $200,000 a year lifestyle. A family of 4 is impoverished if their income is 20,000. And their kids will have to go to school wearing second hand clothing and worn shoes. They will have to suffer all the indignations other more affluent kids heap upon them. If they do graduate from high school, college is out of the question unless they get an academic or athletic scholarship. But all too often, the damage done by poverty has already taken it's toll and the kids drop out to become fringe elements in an unsympathetic society.

That being said I want to make it clear that I am not talking about Black kids only. The face of poverty in America is White.

That's the point. People with skills to only make $20,000/year want to live like they make $200,000/year and when they can't, they blame others for why they only make that amount. Their answer, rather than doing something to increase it, is to tax those more than make $200,000 so the money can be used to offset their lack of skills.

Your entire rant makes it out as if those on the higher economic end OWE something to those on the lower end. That simply isn't true.

What the fuck are you talking about?Most Americans are in debt over their heads. Just getting a decent education leaves millions of them with oppressive debt. And heaven help any of those with such debt if they become seriously ill. They are doomed for decades.
See how that works? Further, too many go to colleges promising them success and come out with worthless degrees. Tack on credit card debt, rent, food and clothing PLUS TAX and the wealth of which you speak is reduced to a paycheck to paycheck existence.

Millions of middle class Americans have NO savings at all as a result of their oppressive debts…Debt accumulated in the name of trying to live a middle class lifestyle. Hmmm. I guess I am agreeing with you here except these people make more than $20,000 a year. These high earning, debt ridden college educated clones are the people you suggest poor people are trying to emulate by spending more than they should. And the rich get richer

Look, fella. Some of the ultra rich throw a few crumbs to their poorer compatriots through charity or other philanthropic devices.
But, if their political stewards,in the GOP had their way, there wouldn't be a middle class. The middle class is disappearing and you fiddle while Rome burns!

If, as you say, most American have that much debt, quit taking it on. No one forced them to do that. They chose to do it.

The colleges didn't pick the worthless degree, the student did.

Trying to live a middle class lifestyle on a low class income isn't the fault of anyone but the one trying to do that. It's not the fault of anyone but the choice maker.

You say the rich throw a few crumbs as if one person owes another person anything. No one owes me, you, or anyone else a damn thing. You owe yourself and if you aren't willing to do for yourself, do without. I don't give a shit.

Pay attention. I am are talking about middle class White people who make way more than 20,000 dollars a year. They are struggling with college and credit card debt, mortgages ,health insurance and auto payments /Insurance. Some have graduated from college only to return to their parents home to live in the BASEMENT.

Poor people generally can't even get credit because they can't qualify for anything more than the usurious rates offered by loan sharks. But some have no choice and they fall into the trap just as their well paid American neighbors do. MIss a payment and even the mainstream credit card companies jack up the rates and report you to one of the three credit bureaus…thereby ruining your credit and hindering you even further.

Lets make your statement "No one owes me, you, or anyone else a damn thing.: ring true. Lets do away with credit altogether. Can you even imagine what will happen then?

I have a solution. If you don't want high interest rates, don't take out loans with them.

I'm OK with doing away with credit. I don't have any debt so it won't affect ME. However, doing away with debt and one person not owing another person anything in life have nothing to do with each other.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But, if their political stewards,in the GOP had their way, there wouldn't be a middle class. The middle class is disappearing and you fiddle while Rome burns!

Actually it's quite the opposite. It's more like if liberals had their way.

It's liberals who are crying to let more foreigners in this country to take our jobs.

It's liberals who run those over priced colleges that put those kids in debt.

It's DumBama and the Democrats that came out with the idea of taking away income tax refunds from people who didn't participate in Commie Care.

It's DumBama that wanted to raise our energy costs sky high to pander to the environmentalists.

It's Democrats who have put all these people on social programs so they can no longer be considered middle-class.

It was DumBama that's responsible for greatly increasing the cost of cigarettes most of which are use by the middle-class and the poor.

If there were ever an enemy of the middle-class it sure isn't Republicans. It's Democrats who are robbing them blind.

 

[Conservative65]

But, if their political stewards,in the GOP had their way, there wouldn't be a middle class. The middle class is disappearing and you fiddle while Rome burns!

Actually it's quite the opposite. It's more like if liberals had their way.

It's liberals who are crying to let more foreigners in this country to take our jobs.

It's liberals who run those over priced colleges that put those kids in debt.

It's DumBama and the Democrats that came out with the idea of taking away income tax refunds from people who didn't participate in Commie Care.

It's DumBama that wanted to raise our energy costs sky high to pander to the environmentalists.

It's Democrats who have put all these people on social programs so they can no longer be considered middle-class.

It was DumBama that's responsible for greatly increasing the cost of cigarettes most of which are use by the middle-class and the poor.

If there were ever an enemy of the middle-class it sure isn't Republicans. It's Democrats who are robbing them blind.

Democrat policies expand the welfare state and create dependency then they blame others for the economy. If you give someone that doesn't really want to work the ability to not work by handing him/her as much or more than they could earn with their skills, only a fool thinks they'll work.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you don't see anything wrong with 20% of the population owning 84% of the wealth and gaining more every year something is wrong with YOU.

Then there must be something wrong with me because how much other people have doesn't affect me one iota. It doesn't matter if there are a million millionaires in this country or three. It doesn't change my life either way.

What changes my life is the decisions I make for myself--not the decisions others make for themselves. Or perhaps changes others make for me like this big eared creep in the White House today.

 

[Conservative65]

If you don't see anything wrong with 20% of the population owning 84% of the wealth and gaining more every year something is wrong with YOU.

Then there must be something wrong with me because how much other people have doesn't affect me one iota. It doesn't matter if there are a million millionaires in this country or three. It doesn't change my life either way.

What changes my life is the decisions I make for myself--not the decisions others make for themselves. Or perhaps changes others make for me like this big eared creep in the White House today.

Ever notice how people like JQP constantly worry about what someone else has or does.? If he spent half as much time worrying about himself and bettering himself, he might be one of those that people like him worry about. He shows a lot of envy about the possessions and wealth of other people. Must be jealousy.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

proof one: in other word you can't prove it to be wrong right !!!! Bush passed the no child left behind unfunded and like I always say about republicans they're to lazy to do any research... proof one, you're a liar ...

proof two: I posted that medicare part d was never funded by the Bush administration and again you're too lazy to look it up all you're concerned here is to try and make nasty remarks here to posters and you found out real fast I can too... proof two, you're a liar ...

proof three: then I pointed out too you what Obama did to fund medicare part d and you again were too lazy to look it up ... the problem with your types is you have this hatred towards Democrats/liberals that you will sit and whine about something fox noise told you and you never take the time to look it ... but you're quick on the trigger to make a nasty remark about Dems/liberals ... proof three, you're a liar ...

its not me that has a compression problem it is you that has this problem and it shows in your responses ... the press and the republicans say the people who support trump are uneducated ... I guess you fit into that mold... proof four, you're a liar ...

I posted the factcheck link on how they funded Medicare D, it's just that you refuse to believe it. You've been so brainwashed by these lying liberal politicians it's impossible to get through to you even if I post proof right in front of your face. Do you need me to highlight the specific part and post it again????

The only thing DumBama did with Medicare was rip it off for Commie Care. He didn't fix anything because there was nothing that needed to be fixed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ever notice how people like JQP constantly worry about what someone else has or does.? If he spent half as much time worrying about himself and bettering himself, he might be one of those that people like him worry about. He shows a lot of envy about the possessions and wealth of other people. Must be jealousy.

It's much worse than that. He actually believes that the reason we have poor people is because the rich have too much money. As if they had less, it would somehow help those poor.

This is evident in his repeated posts of how much of "the wealth" wealthy people have, as if there was a limited amount of money in this country. There is no "the wealth." Every American can make as much as they desire, and it doesn't matter how much money rich people have. Nobody is stopping anybody from earning or investing.

Poor means you don't have adequate money. The solution to poverty? Get more money. How does one get more money? Work more hours and decrease your unnecessary spending.

 

[Conservative65]

Ever notice how people like JQP constantly worry about what someone else has or does.? If he spent half as much time worrying about himself and bettering himself, he might be one of those that people like him worry about. He shows a lot of envy about the possessions and wealth of other people. Must be jealousy.

It's much worse than that. He actually believes that the reason we have poor people is because the rich have too much money. As if they had less, it would somehow help those poor.

This is evident in his repeated posts of how much of "the wealth" wealthy people have, as if there was a limited amount of money in this country. There is no "the wealth." Every American can make as much as they desire, and it doesn't matter how much money rich people have. Nobody is stopping anybody from earning or investing.

Poor means you don't have adequate money. The solution to poverty? Get more money. How does one get more money? Work more hours and decrease your unnecessary spending.

As a country, we've tried that for 50 years only to have the same percentage of people in poverty today as we did BEFORE spending $22 trillion to do what JQP thinks will help them become less poor. Apparently the way JQP thinks the poor should get more money is to take it from those he thinks don't need as much as they have.

People like JQP talk about leveling the playing field and that many of the very wealthy had a head start above the poor. The country could take every bit of money that exists among all 320 million people that live here, divide it up EQUALLY, and in 20 years, those complaining now that there are people that don't have as much as someone else would be complaining again based on exactly what you said. It's the person. If someone wants to sit sleep until noon, sit on their ass, and play video games all day, go for it. However, realize that doesn't pay a lot and those that go out and do something meaningful are going to have more income and, eventually, more wealth.