Can someone explain why the GOP base votes Republican?

...cause the Dems are offering 2 rich old white people. One is a professed Socialist Party Member and the other doesn't know the difference between the Democratic Party and Socialism.

:lmao:
And Trump is not an old rich white person?
That's the standard? "We're no better than they are?". This time around, the GOP is running just as many women as and more minorities than the democrats are.
 
...cause the Dems are offering 2 rich old white people. One is a professed Socialist Party Member and the other doesn't know the difference between the Democratic Party and Socialism.

:lmao:
And Trump is not an old rich white person?
That's the standard? "We're no better than they are?". This time around, the GOP is running just as many women as and more minorities than the democrats are.
No, the point is Trump's about as much a Goldwater conservative as is Hillary.
 
We all agree the GOP leadership exploits their base through fear and race. The GOP base gets nothing good from their own leadership. So why do they keep voting Republican? Anyone?
You are begging the question.

Your logic fails, scumbag.
 
...cause the Dems are offering 2 rich old white people. One is a professed Socialist Party Member and the other doesn't know the difference between the Democratic Party and Socialism.

:lmao:
And Trump is not an old rich white person?
That's the standard? "We're no better than they are?". This time around, the GOP is running just as many women as and more minorities than the democrats are.
No, the point is Trump's about as much a Goldwater conservative as is Hillary.
I don't know anyone who says Trump is conservative. His popularity underscores the intense dissatisfaction the nation is feeling with the current state of affairs, from the left leaning government to the ongoing, blatant love affair between the bulk of the media and that left leaning government, to the abject fear most politicians exhibit of seeing a negative headline about themselves in the NYT.
 
...cause the Dems are offering 2 rich old white people. One is a professed Socialist Party Member and the other doesn't know the difference between the Democratic Party and Socialism.

:lmao:
And Trump is not an old rich white person?
That's the standard? "We're no better than they are?". This time around, the GOP is running just as many women as and more minorities than the democrats are.
No, the point is Trump's about as much a Goldwater conservative as is Hillary.
I don't know anyone who says Trump is conservative. His popularity underscores the intense dissatisfaction the nation is feeling with the current state of affairs, from the left leaning government to the ongoing, blatant love affair between the bulk of the media and that left leaning government, to the abject fear most politicians exhibit of seeing a negative headline about themselves in the NYT.
So, essentially we have a Nativist, quasi-No Knownothing, who is the past has supported big govt social liberals, running against a big govt social liberal.

Pardon me if, as a fiscal conservative, who believes in a limited government along the lines of Goldwater and Reagan, I find this a pathetically bad joke.
 
...cause the Dems are offering 2 rich old white people. One is a professed Socialist Party Member and the other doesn't know the difference between the Democratic Party and Socialism.

:lmao:
And Trump is not an old rich white person?
That's the standard? "We're no better than they are?". This time around, the GOP is running just as many women as and more minorities than the democrats are.
No, the point is Trump's about as much a Goldwater conservative as is Hillary.
I don't know anyone who says Trump is conservative. His popularity underscores the intense dissatisfaction the nation is feeling with the current state of affairs, from the left leaning government to the ongoing, blatant love affair between the bulk of the media and that left leaning government, to the abject fear most politicians exhibit of seeing a negative headline about themselves in the NYT.
So, essentially we have a Nativist, quasi-No Knownothing, who is the past has supported big govt social liberals, running against a big govt social liberal.

Pardon me if, as a fiscal conservative, who believes in a limited government along the lines of Goldwater and Reagan, I find this a pathetically bad joke.
The joke is that a solid conservative with a pair of balls could easily exceed what Trump is doing and produce another Reagan landslide, but they won't run. It's frustrating.
 
We all agree the GOP leadership exploits their base through fear and race. The GOP base gets nothing good from their own leadership. So why do they keep voting Republican? Anyone?


The right wing of the base aka Tea Party in no way represents the Republican party anymore. They really have no business referring to themselves as Republicans. They're not. They're an angry, ignorant mob.

A right wingers life is entirely engulfed in 3 or more hours daily, of right wing talk radio, and entertainment politics on FOX news (that agree with them.) They're pumped full of right wing hyperbole which inflames them They know nothing more than what they've been told, of course, only by talk show hosts that "agree" with them. They are told who to attack (on the Republican side of the isle). They continually break Reagan's 11th commandment "thou shall not speak ill of a fellow Republican".

They don't represent the party of Reagan or Lincoln. In fact if Ronald Reagan were in the Oval office when Ted Cruz called Mitch McConnell a liar, Reagan would have gone down to the Senate floor and booted his ass into next week. If Ronald Reagan were alive and running for POTUS today-- Rush Limbaugh and other right wing talk show hosts would have already labeled Reagan an Establishment candidate, and they would be referring to him as a rino. They have, in effect already rino'd themselves right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the 1st primary ballot was even cast.

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Wow, can you believe these right wingers? It's all about either attack or the GOP and the Democrats are the same.

Healthcare for all Americans. -----------Democrats yes--------GOP no

School lunches for poor children -------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Cut veterans benefits ---------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Tax cuts for the rich -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Big corporations give mostly to ---------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Supports safety regulations -------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Guns for the insane -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Clean air and clean water ---------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Wanted BP to pay for their mess ------Democrats yes---------GOP no

Diverse party ------------------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

Believes in education --------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

See what I mean? These two parties are NOT the same. They are extremely different.
I think I see why your conclusions are wrong. You start from a false premise.
And didn't provide a single example. Typical for your kind.
 
We all agree the GOP leadership exploits their base through fear and race. The GOP base gets nothing good from their own leadership. So why do they keep voting Republican? Anyone?
You are begging the question.

Your logic fails, scumbag.
How? Can't give an example?

Well?

Well?

Thought so.
 
We all agree the GOP leadership exploits their base through fear and race. The GOP base gets nothing good from their own leadership. So why do they keep voting Republican? Anyone?
Still better than Dimwit socialists.
 
Wow, can you believe these right wingers? It's all about either attack or the GOP and the Democrats are the same.

Healthcare for all Americans. -----------Democrats yes--------GOP no

School lunches for poor children -------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Cut veterans benefits ---------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Tax cuts for the rich -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Big corporations give mostly to ---------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Supports safety regulations -------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Guns for the insane -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Clean air and clean water ---------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Wanted BP to pay for their mess ------Democrats yes---------GOP no

Diverse party ------------------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

Believes in education --------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

See what I mean? These two parties are NOT the same. They are extremely different.
I think I see why your conclusions are wrong. You start from a false premise.
And didn't provide a single example. Typical for your kind.
Oh I forgot, you don't understand that your premise is false, so I have to spell it out for you.

Healthcare for all Americans - Everybody wants that. Republicans want to make sure that everyone can afford it without bankrupting the country, democrats think they can wave a magic wand and everyone gets free healthcare without any rationing or cuts in services.

School lunches for poor children - Republicans rightly believe this is a local issue and want states to be able to decide how best to feed hungry children, democrats think that this, like everything else, is appropriate for the lumbering behemoth of the federal government to enforce a one size fits all rule and dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch.

Cut veterans benefits - Republicans want to stop borrowing from China, democrats won't cut a penny from anything in the budget, no matter what.

Tax cuts for the rich - Republicans understand that only those actually paying taxes benefit from a tax cut, democrats don't want ANYONE keeping any more of their hard earned money than the least possible the government will allow. They obviously believe that all wealth belongs first to the government, and the citizen who earned it will keep only what is left over after government vultures take as much as they deem appropriate.

Big corporations give mostly to - whomever is in power. If you are honest, you will admit that Big Corp gives to both parties, seeking to curry favor from greedy politicians like Harry Reid.

Supports safety regulations - Republicans support safety regulations that make sense, actually improve safety, and allow business to thrive, democrats don't understand how business works, thinks ordinary citizens are absolute dolts and want to control as much as they can.

Guns for the insane - Republicans want sane people to be able to own guns, democrats want no one to own guns. It's really about that simple.

Clean air and clean water - Everybody wants that, full stop.

Wanted BP to pay for their mess - Republicans wanted the mess cleaned up, democrats wanted to shut down the oil industry in the Gulf.

Diverse party - Republicans believe in the individual diversity , democrats totally reject diversity of thought. Republicans see and value individuals, democrats see and value only group membership.

Believes in education - Republicans believe in making education effective, democrats believe in throwing more money into a broken system and using it to increase control over family's lives. Republicans believe in school choice, democrats want to keep poor minority kids in the worst schools. Republicans champion proven methods of home schooling, democrats are owned by the teachers' unions and want to force every child into a public school (except for their own, of course. Their own get to go to the elite suburban schools while the poor minority kids are kept in the lousy urban ones).

There, does that help clear things up? And can you see how, when you start from your false premises, you inevitably end up at your false conclusions?
 
Still waiting for the gop "healthcare" program. Beyond expanding medicare for prescrip drugs.

Why would we want a free market advocating political party to come up with a government solution? That's the democrat advantage in this deal, they're playing the part of Santa Claus. "Free healthcare for all and nobody has to pay for it!!!". It's hard to beat Santa Claus, especially when the people fall for the "free" line.
 
We all agree the GOP leadership exploits their base through fear and race. The GOP base gets nothing good from their own leadership. So why do they keep voting Republican? Anyone?
Well, Dean, the gop base is NOT voting for a republican this time. Trump may be a lot of things to a lot of people, but there's very little about him that is conservative.

well look at the thing you put in OVER US in Obama. so don't worry your wee heads about it. you don't know how many people support trump. so stop assuming everyone is going to be voting for him. you're feeding rdeans insanity.
 
To keep cutting things that might benefit you so the rich can keep more? What else is there?
 
Wow, can you believe these right wingers? It's all about either attack or the GOP and the Democrats are the same.

Healthcare for all Americans. -----------Democrats yes--------GOP no

School lunches for poor children -------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Cut veterans benefits ---------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Tax cuts for the rich -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Big corporations give mostly to ---------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Supports safety regulations -------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Guns for the insane -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Clean air and clean water ---------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Wanted BP to pay for their mess ------Democrats yes---------GOP no

Diverse party ------------------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

Believes in education --------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

See what I mean? These two parties are NOT the same. They are extremely different.
I think I see why your conclusions are wrong. You start from a false premise.
And didn't provide a single example. Typical for your kind.
Oh I forgot, you don't understand that your premise is false, so I have to spell it out for you.

Healthcare for all Americans - Everybody wants that. Republicans want to make sure that everyone can afford it without bankrupting the country, democrats think they can wave a magic wand and everyone gets free healthcare without any rationing or cuts in services.

School lunches for poor children - Republicans rightly believe this is a local issue and want states to be able to decide how best to feed hungry children, democrats think that this, like everything else, is appropriate for the lumbering behemoth of the federal government to enforce a one size fits all rule and dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch.

Cut veterans benefits - Republicans want to stop borrowing from China, democrats won't cut a penny from anything in the budget, no matter what.

Tax cuts for the rich - Republicans understand that only those actually paying taxes benefit from a tax cut, democrats don't want ANYONE keeping any more of their hard earned money than the least possible the government will allow. They obviously believe that all wealth belongs first to the government, and the citizen who earned it will keep only what is left over after government vultures take as much as they deem appropriate.

Big corporations give mostly to - whomever is in power. If you are honest, you will admit that Big Corp gives to both parties, seeking to curry favor from greedy politicians like Harry Reid.

Supports safety regulations - Republicans support safety regulations that make sense, actually improve safety, and allow business to thrive, democrats don't understand how business works, thinks ordinary citizens are absolute dolts and want to control as much as they can.

Guns for the insane - Republicans want sane people to be able to own guns, democrats want no one to own guns. It's really about that simple.

Clean air and clean water - Everybody wants that, full stop.

Wanted BP to pay for their mess - Republicans wanted the mess cleaned up, democrats wanted to shut down the oil industry in the Gulf.

Diverse party - Republicans believe in the individual diversity , democrats totally reject diversity of thought. Republicans see and value individuals, democrats see and value only group membership.

Believes in education - Republicans believe in making education effective, democrats believe in throwing more money into a broken system and using it to increase control over family's lives. Republicans believe in school choice, democrats want to keep poor minority kids in the worst schools. Republicans champion proven methods of home schooling, democrats are owned by the teachers' unions and want to force every child into a public school (except for their own, of course. Their own get to go to the elite suburban schools while the poor minority kids are kept in the lousy urban ones).

There, does that help clear things up? And can you see how, when you start from your false premises, you inevitably end up at your false conclusions?
You could have just said: Either do it the GOP way or fuck 'em. Saved all those words.
 
Wow, can you believe these right wingers? It's all about either attack or the GOP and the Democrats are the same.

Healthcare for all Americans. -----------Democrats yes--------GOP no

School lunches for poor children -------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Cut veterans benefits ---------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Tax cuts for the rich -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Big corporations give mostly to ---------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Supports safety regulations -------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Guns for the insane -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Clean air and clean water ---------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Wanted BP to pay for their mess ------Democrats yes---------GOP no

Diverse party ------------------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

Believes in education --------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

See what I mean? These two parties are NOT the same. They are extremely different.
I think I see why your conclusions are wrong. You start from a false premise.
And didn't provide a single example. Typical for your kind.
Oh I forgot, you don't understand that your premise is false, so I have to spell it out for you.

Healthcare for all Americans - Everybody wants that. Republicans want to make sure that everyone can afford it without bankrupting the country, democrats think they can wave a magic wand and everyone gets free healthcare without any rationing or cuts in services.

School lunches for poor children - Republicans rightly believe this is a local issue and want states to be able to decide how best to feed hungry children, democrats think that this, like everything else, is appropriate for the lumbering behemoth of the federal government to enforce a one size fits all rule and dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch.

Cut veterans benefits - Republicans want to stop borrowing from China, democrats won't cut a penny from anything in the budget, no matter what.

Tax cuts for the rich - Republicans understand that only those actually paying taxes benefit from a tax cut, democrats don't want ANYONE keeping any more of their hard earned money than the least possible the government will allow. They obviously believe that all wealth belongs first to the government, and the citizen who earned it will keep only what is left over after government vultures take as much as they deem appropriate.

Big corporations give mostly to - whomever is in power. If you are honest, you will admit that Big Corp gives to both parties, seeking to curry favor from greedy politicians like Harry Reid.

Supports safety regulations - Republicans support safety regulations that make sense, actually improve safety, and allow business to thrive, democrats don't understand how business works, thinks ordinary citizens are absolute dolts and want to control as much as they can.

Guns for the insane - Republicans want sane people to be able to own guns, democrats want no one to own guns. It's really about that simple.

Clean air and clean water - Everybody wants that, full stop.

Wanted BP to pay for their mess - Republicans wanted the mess cleaned up, democrats wanted to shut down the oil industry in the Gulf.

Diverse party - Republicans believe in the individual diversity , democrats totally reject diversity of thought. Republicans see and value individuals, democrats see and value only group membership.

Believes in education - Republicans believe in making education effective, democrats believe in throwing more money into a broken system and using it to increase control over family's lives. Republicans believe in school choice, democrats want to keep poor minority kids in the worst schools. Republicans champion proven methods of home schooling, democrats are owned by the teachers' unions and want to force every child into a public school (except for their own, of course. Their own get to go to the elite suburban schools while the poor minority kids are kept in the lousy urban ones).

There, does that help clear things up? And can you see how, when you start from your false premises, you inevitably end up at your false conclusions?
See, a post like this is so irritating because it's a huge list of GOP talking points with nothing to back it up and it's so full of shit only a tard could really believe it. Too much ignorance to muck through, but I have to touch on a few of the most ignorant points.

School lunches for poor children - Republicans rightly believe this is a local issue and want states to be able to decide how best to feed hungry children, democrats think that this, like everything else, is appropriate for the lumbering behemoth of the federal government to enforce a one size fits all rule and dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch.

Could that be any more ignorant. Debating who feeds the kid? Clearly Republicans don't give a flying fuck about children. And look at that "dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch". So feed them fucking candy? A right winger wrote that shit. They don't understand the tardishness.

And look at this:

Cut veterans benefits - Republicans want to stop borrowing from China, democrats won't cut a penny from anything in the budget, no matter what.

So that's the reason to fuck over veterans?

And the tax cuts for the rich? Read that paragraph. It's so stupid. Romney made 22 million from his money and he's retired. And how many people did that vulture capitalist make fucking people over. It's easy to look up. That was hard work? That was scams the ignorant fucks defend.

Wanted BP to pay for their mess - Republicans wanted the mess cleaned up, democrats wanted to shut down the oil industry in the Gulf.

No fuckhead. Republicans didn't want BP to pay for their mess. That's why they defended them. Double fucking DUH!

The GOP is 90% white and they talk about diversity???? Give me a fucking break.

And the whole paragraph about education. More of the most ignorant GOP talking points. "Oh. we don't want to throw money into a broken system that's why we want to destroy it?????????????" Destroying it must be the plan. Cuz they have no ideas. Oh wait. Yea, charter schools where only a few kids are let in and fuck the rest. Besides, right wingers want to add mysticism to science and think math is too hard. So their kids aren't getting into charter schools anyway. And now teachers in charter schools want to unionize.

These right wingernuts are dumb, dumb, dumb and delusional.
 
Wow, can you believe these right wingers? It's all about either attack or the GOP and the Democrats are the same.

Healthcare for all Americans. -----------Democrats yes--------GOP no

School lunches for poor children -------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Cut veterans benefits ---------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Tax cuts for the rich -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Big corporations give mostly to ---------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Supports safety regulations -------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Guns for the insane -----------------------Democrats no---------GOP yes

Clean air and clean water ---------------Democrats yes--------GOP no

Wanted BP to pay for their mess ------Democrats yes---------GOP no

Diverse party ------------------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

Believes in education --------------------Democrats yes----------GOP no

See what I mean? These two parties are NOT the same. They are extremely different.
I think I see why your conclusions are wrong. You start from a false premise.
And didn't provide a single example. Typical for your kind.
Oh I forgot, you don't understand that your premise is false, so I have to spell it out for you.

Healthcare for all Americans - Everybody wants that. Republicans want to make sure that everyone can afford it without bankrupting the country, democrats think they can wave a magic wand and everyone gets free healthcare without any rationing or cuts in services.

School lunches for poor children - Republicans rightly believe this is a local issue and want states to be able to decide how best to feed hungry children, democrats think that this, like everything else, is appropriate for the lumbering behemoth of the federal government to enforce a one size fits all rule and dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch.

Cut veterans benefits - Republicans want to stop borrowing from China, democrats won't cut a penny from anything in the budget, no matter what.

Tax cuts for the rich - Republicans understand that only those actually paying taxes benefit from a tax cut, democrats don't want ANYONE keeping any more of their hard earned money than the least possible the government will allow. They obviously believe that all wealth belongs first to the government, and the citizen who earned it will keep only what is left over after government vultures take as much as they deem appropriate.

Big corporations give mostly to - whomever is in power. If you are honest, you will admit that Big Corp gives to both parties, seeking to curry favor from greedy politicians like Harry Reid.

Supports safety regulations - Republicans support safety regulations that make sense, actually improve safety, and allow business to thrive, democrats don't understand how business works, thinks ordinary citizens are absolute dolts and want to control as much as they can.

Guns for the insane - Republicans want sane people to be able to own guns, democrats want no one to own guns. It's really about that simple.

Clean air and clean water - Everybody wants that, full stop.

Wanted BP to pay for their mess - Republicans wanted the mess cleaned up, democrats wanted to shut down the oil industry in the Gulf.

Diverse party - Republicans believe in the individual diversity , democrats totally reject diversity of thought. Republicans see and value individuals, democrats see and value only group membership.

Believes in education - Republicans believe in making education effective, democrats believe in throwing more money into a broken system and using it to increase control over family's lives. Republicans believe in school choice, democrats want to keep poor minority kids in the worst schools. Republicans champion proven methods of home schooling, democrats are owned by the teachers' unions and want to force every child into a public school (except for their own, of course. Their own get to go to the elite suburban schools while the poor minority kids are kept in the lousy urban ones).

There, does that help clear things up? And can you see how, when you start from your false premises, you inevitably end up at your false conclusions?
See, a post like this is so irritating because it's a huge list of GOP talking points with nothing to back it up and it's so full of shit only a tard could really believe it. Too much ignorance to muck through, but I have to touch on a few of the most ignorant points.

School lunches for poor children - Republicans rightly believe this is a local issue and want states to be able to decide how best to feed hungry children, democrats think that this, like everything else, is appropriate for the lumbering behemoth of the federal government to enforce a one size fits all rule and dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch.

Could that be any more ignorant. Debating who feeds the kid? Clearly Republicans don't give a flying fuck about children. And look at that "dictate what a child can and cannot eat for lunch". So feed them fucking candy? A right winger wrote that shit. They don't understand the tardishness.

And look at this:

Cut veterans benefits - Republicans want to stop borrowing from China, democrats won't cut a penny from anything in the budget, no matter what.

So that's the reason to fuck over veterans?

And the tax cuts for the rich? Read that paragraph. It's so stupid. Romney made 22 million from his money and he's retired. And how many people did that vulture capitalist make fucking people over. It's easy to look up. That was hard work? That was scams the ignorant fucks defend.

Wanted BP to pay for their mess - Republicans wanted the mess cleaned up, democrats wanted to shut down the oil industry in the Gulf.

No fuckhead. Republicans didn't want BP to pay for their mess. That's why they defended them. Double fucking DUH!

The GOP is 90% white and they talk about diversity???? Give me a fucking break.

And the whole paragraph about education. More of the most ignorant GOP talking points. "Oh. we don't want to throw money into a broken system that's why we want to destroy it?????????????" Destroying it must be the plan. Cuz they have no ideas. Oh wait. Yea, charter schools where only a few kids are let in and fuck the rest. Besides, right wingers want to add mysticism to science and think math is too hard. So their kids aren't getting into charter schools anyway. And now teachers in charter schools want to unionize.

These right wingernuts are dumb, dumb, dumb and delusional.
Well, you certainly have the hate talking points down pat. I illustrated the vacuity of your list by employing your tactics, but instead of learning from your lesson, you doubled down on stupid. The best thing to do when you're in a hole is to stop digging.
 
We all agree the GOP leadership exploits their base through fear and race. The GOP base gets nothing good from their own leadership. So why do they keep voting Republican? Anyone?
Well, Dean, the gop base is NOT voting for a republican this time. Trump may be a lot of things to a lot of people, but there's very little about him that is conservative.

well look at the thing you put in OVER US in Obama. so don't worry your wee heads about it. you don't know how many people support trump. so stop assuming everyone is going to be voting for him. you're feeding rdeans insanity.
WTF are you spewing about? Obama's not running. The issue is the Big Quack, who will be the gop nominee even though he never bought into Goldwater/Reagan federalism. The Big Quack is a big govt statist, who is spewing an anti-immigration message aimed at older whites who've lost econ ground. He's no more likely to reform the tax code to get rid of all exemptions and have one page tax returns than is Hillary.
 

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