Can win Obama win a debate Against Newt ??

Gingrich will lose a debate with Obama if he states the Supreme Court is not in the Constitution or that public sector employees should be fired and replaced by minor children.

That type if ignorance and idiocy is all that’s heard from Gingrich; his ‘brilliance’ and ‘intelligence’ clearly a myth.

Newt isn't brilliant. He's an idiot with an articulate speaking style that just sounds brilliant.


Obama better brush up on the simple basics, like how many states he will be campaigning through. For his hispanic supporters, he needs to make just a bit more of an effort than happy Cinco de Quatro.
 
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Correction: increasingly popular. A majority of americans support the individual mandate now.

And actually obama has only had a filibuster proof senate for about 6 months.

And you realize he ran on his healthcare bill right? And you realize that CBO says it will save $200 billion right? And you realize the entire point of the law is to shift the cost of healthcare away from businesses right?

Do you understand the healthcare law at all?

No, increasingly unpopular.

No, increasingly popular:

Poll: Voters Like Much of Health Care Law -- But Not the Individual Mandate - Washington Wire - WSJ

1. The law is still unpopular but not as disliked as it was in October. In the latest tracking poll, 44% of voters held an unfavorable opinion of it compared with 51% who said in October that they viewed it unfavorably.

3. Even though there are more voters who don’t like the law than voters who do, some 50% want to keep it, and only 38% definitely know they want to repeal it.


4. Almost every individual element in the package is popular with a majority of the public, especially the requirements that insurers provide easy-to-understand plan summaries (84% like that) and provide coverage to people regardless of their medical histories (67% like that). Even increasing the payroll tax on higher-income earners to help fund Medicare is acceptable to more than half of the respondents.


Idk, maybe the WSJ is a liberal paper now...


How long did Bush have a filibuster proof senate? He still managed to get things done.

Thanks for pointing this out.

It just goes to show how conservatives will hold up all progress for the sake of politics while democrats will compromise so that the government actually functions.

What was the CBO estimate for Medicare? What was reality?

Graph please.

There is evidence that governments chronically underestimate health-care program costs. A report released over the summer by Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) argues that “health care appears to be an area with great room for overly optimistic assumptions regarding” changes in the behavior of patients and providers, the impact of technology, future health cost inflation and the likely success of cost controls.

The report cites numerous instances of faulty health-care estimates from Medicare and Medicaid, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the Massachusetts universal-coverage plan and the United Kingdom’s National Health Service.

For example, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the original Medicare hospital insurance program would cost $9 billion annually by 1990. Actual spending that year was $67 billion.

The same committee predicted in 1967 that the total Medicare program would cost $12 billion in 1990. Actual spending was $110 billion.

In the case of Medicaid DSH — a program that reimburses states for payments to hospitals that treat Medicaid and uninsured patients — CBO estimated in 1987 that payments would amount to less than $1 billion in 1992. The actual cost that year was $17 billion.

Congressional Budget Office consistently wrong on health-care estimates | The Daily Caller
 
No actually quite the opposite. He was a Senior Lecturer, one of just 7. Do you know what that means? The dean of the law school was a senior lecturer as well, along with Judge Richard Posner, one of the most respected legal minds in the world.

Senior lecturer is a title they give to someone that doesnt have the time or desire to be a full time professor. Obama was elected to the state senate the same year he became Senior Lecturer, he couldnt exactly just be a full time teacher.

UC Law School Statement: The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

FactCheck.org : Obama a Constitutional Law Professor?



Does it matter? You dont graduate magna cum laude with bad grades. Magna cum laude is pretty much the definition of having received good grades.



Lol your so condescending for someone thats so stupid.

Does this mean you can't show any of his articles? I am shocked.

Thats your only argument?

Obama is an idiot because i dont have a copy of the harvard law review right next to me?

Wow. Debating with you is fun.

Take your time.
When you find his scholarly articles from his time at Harvard, be sure to let me know.
 
No, increasingly unpopular.

No, increasingly popular:

Poll: Voters Like Much of Health Care Law -- But Not the Individual Mandate - Washington Wire - WSJ

1. The law is still unpopular but not as disliked as it was in October. In the latest tracking poll, 44% of voters held an unfavorable opinion of it compared with 51% who said in October that they viewed it unfavorably.

3. Even though there are more voters who don’t like the law than voters who do, some 50% want to keep it, and only 38% definitely know they want to repeal it.


4. Almost every individual element in the package is popular with a majority of the public, especially the requirements that insurers provide easy-to-understand plan summaries (84% like that) and provide coverage to people regardless of their medical histories (67% like that). Even increasing the payroll tax on higher-income earners to help fund Medicare is acceptable to more than half of the respondents.


Idk, maybe the WSJ is a liberal paper now...




Thanks for pointing this out.

It just goes to show how conservatives will hold up all progress for the sake of politics while democrats will compromise so that the government actually functions.

What was the CBO estimate for Medicare? What was reality?

Graph please.

There is evidence that governments chronically underestimate health-care program costs. A report released over the summer by Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) argues that “health care appears to be an area with great room for overly optimistic assumptions regarding” changes in the behavior of patients and providers, the impact of technology, future health cost inflation and the likely success of cost controls.

The report cites numerous instances of faulty health-care estimates from Medicare and Medicaid, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the Massachusetts universal-coverage plan and the United Kingdom’s National Health Service.

For example, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the original Medicare hospital insurance program would cost $9 billion annually by 1990. Actual spending that year was $67 billion.

The same committee predicted in 1967 that the total Medicare program would cost $12 billion in 1990. Actual spending was $110 billion.

In the case of Medicaid DSH — a program that reimburses states for payments to hospitals that treat Medicaid and uninsured patients — CBO estimated in 1987 that payments would amount to less than $1 billion in 1992. The actual cost that year was $17 billion.

Congressional Budget Office consistently wrong on health-care estimates | The Daily Caller

Do you think Newt will win the Presidential election of 2012?
 
There's nothing brilliant about a reader.

If Obama starts telling lies and Newt catches him in the lie and exposes him he won't be able to lie his way out of it convincingly.

The way he held his own against McCain was by knowing the questions ahead of time and having prepared answers ready for it. McCain ether didn't know how to respond or he refused to.

Oh yes....same old "Obama can't speak without a telepromter" nonsense

Obama trounced McCain regardless of the debate format. There were no telepromters for either side. Candidates did not know the questions in advance, but Obama was prepared.

He will also be prepared to discuss Newts proposed policies and what they would mean to the American people


All Newt has to do is look at the camera and say how many of you are enjoying Obama's Hope and Change when you get together at the diner table? Are you able to make the income you used to? Do you have a steady job? Are you able to do more than just "get by" with your bills? If the answer to any of these questions is no, are you prepared to go through 4 more years of the same policies by this man? Is THIS today, the promise of hope and change that you wanted for you and your family? Newt can deliver, and Obama would be forced to see his record front and center on the minds of the American people.

Sounds like Newt is making an appeal to the 99%. He will have to explain how he intends to help them by protecting the 1%
 
Newt isn't brilliant. He's an idiot with an articulate speaking style that just sounds brilliant.

Actually...Newt is rather intelligent. Barack on the other hand is "supposed" to be brilliant. The thing is...he's been President for almost 3 years now, Carbineer and I can't think of one brilliant thing he's said or done. I mean come on...if he were really that bright why can't he give us a budget? He's "brilliant" but he's gonna need until 2013 to make up his mind about the pipeline from Canada to the Gulf? If he were "brilliant" then why didn't he ever publish any scholarly works about constitutional law when he was a law professor? If he was "brilliant" how come he never published any articles under his name in the Harvard Law Review? If he was "brilliant" then why couldn't he get a single piece of legislation passed that he authored in the first two and a half years he was an Illinois state senator? If he was "brilliant" then why did other Democrats have to let him "piggyback" on their legislative work to make it look like he'd accomplished something? If he really IS "brilliant" then why doesn't he have solutions to our economic situation...and when I say a solution I don't mean blaming others for his own shortcomings.

It's been 3 years now...when are we going to SEE some "brilliance"?

Newt had a couple decades in the House to prove he was brilliant. And didn't.


He was a House Speaker under President Clinton, during a time when there was a need to balance the budget.
 
Sooo, you ask a question - and then answer it...

Obama is brilliant; he's the incumbent - and he has inside knowledge that Newt isn't privy to...

So, yes, I would expect Obama to win a debate against Newt.
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Are you serious on that "brilliant" thing???? ROFLMAO Oh please, you are making me hysterical here! What on earth led you to believe this guy is "brilliant" except for the fact he can read eloquently off a teleprompter? For real honey -because there is absolutely NOTHING this guy has EVER done in his life that would lead anyone to believe he was "brilliant". You can't name anything the guy had ever done in his life to deem him "brilliant" that put him above all others who were mere mortals. (Don't bother with the law review thing -totally unrelated to scholastic performance.)

Do you REALLY think there isn't a reason he refuses to release his college grades -even while his apologists pretend he is SOOO much smarter than Bush -who immediately released HIS? If he had done better than Bush in college since he was all so "brilliant" and all -you better believe those grades would have been traipsed out instead of HIDDEN as they remain to this day. For a reason -they ain't good.

Obama was never qualified to hold this job and now that Democrats no longer have a super majority in both houses of Congress to ram whatever unwanted laws down the throats of Americans Pelotsi and Reid want, his glaring shortcomings are UNDENIABLY and GLARINGLY obvious. The guy hasn't a clue how to BE President of the nation and has never once stopped being a fucking political hack and is still the very same product of corrupt Chicago politics he has always been and always will be. He doesn't know how to even PRETEND to be President because the job is totally outside his skill set. The list of who he blames for HIS shortcomings is endless -starting with Bush and including the Chamber of Commerce, corporations, Congress, tsunamis, tax cuts (even though HE extended them -lol), the successful, the Tea Party, lack of communication, the American people themselves. But never ONCE has the man blamed himself for HIS own failures. Not once.

The best you can look forward to in the debates is Obama giving Newt the finger while pretending to scratch his face as he did to McCain. Such a classy and "presidential" gesture that was such a lowlife, scummy embarrassment seen around the world. THAT is how Obama debates -Newt is a wordsmith, his grasp of the issues is current and specific, his knowledge of how government is supposed to work is superb. The last guy who ran for President so unqualified for the job as Obama was more than 100 years ago -but at least people weren't so stupid as to actually elect the man. And hey -when you lefties ran the traitor Kerry against Bush, did you buy into "he has access to information Kerry doesn't" argument? This election is a referendum on Obama himself and what he has done to this country, not on whether his opponent has access to the same info. Voters will want to give his opponent that access.

Obama on the other hand is the guy who thought he was going to be President over 57 states. Oh sure, and THIS is the guy you insist is just BRILLIANT, right?
 
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No, increasingly popular:

Poll: Voters Like Much of Health Care Law -- But Not the Individual Mandate - Washington Wire - WSJ

1. The law is still unpopular but not as disliked as it was in October. In the latest tracking poll, 44% of voters held an unfavorable opinion of it compared with 51% who said in October that they viewed it unfavorably.

3. Even though there are more voters who don’t like the law than voters who do, some 50% want to keep it, and only 38% definitely know they want to repeal it.


4. Almost every individual element in the package is popular with a majority of the public, especially the requirements that insurers provide easy-to-understand plan summaries (84% like that) and provide coverage to people regardless of their medical histories (67% like that). Even increasing the payroll tax on higher-income earners to help fund Medicare is acceptable to more than half of the respondents.


Idk, maybe the WSJ is a liberal paper now...




Thanks for pointing this out.

It just goes to show how conservatives will hold up all progress for the sake of politics while democrats will compromise so that the government actually functions.



Graph please.

There is evidence that governments chronically underestimate health-care program costs. A report released over the summer by Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) argues that “health care appears to be an area with great room for overly optimistic assumptions regarding” changes in the behavior of patients and providers, the impact of technology, future health cost inflation and the likely success of cost controls.

The report cites numerous instances of faulty health-care estimates from Medicare and Medicaid, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the Massachusetts universal-coverage plan and the United Kingdom’s National Health Service.

For example, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the original Medicare hospital insurance program would cost $9 billion annually by 1990. Actual spending that year was $67 billion.

The same committee predicted in 1967 that the total Medicare program would cost $12 billion in 1990. Actual spending was $110 billion.

In the case of Medicaid DSH — a program that reimburses states for payments to hospitals that treat Medicaid and uninsured patients — CBO estimated in 1987 that payments would amount to less than $1 billion in 1992. The actual cost that year was $17 billion.

Congressional Budget Office consistently wrong on health-care estimates | The Daily Caller

Do you think Newt will win the Presidential election of 2012?

Only if he's running against Obama.
 
Oh yes....same old "Obama can't speak without a telepromter" nonsense

Obama trounced McCain regardless of the debate format. There were no telepromters for either side. Candidates did not know the questions in advance, but Obama was prepared.

He will also be prepared to discuss Newts proposed policies and what they would mean to the American people


All Newt has to do is look at the camera and say how many of you are enjoying Obama's Hope and Change when you get together at the diner table? Are you able to make the income you used to? Do you have a steady job? Are you able to do more than just "get by" with your bills? If the answer to any of these questions is no, are you prepared to go through 4 more years of the same policies by this man? Is THIS today, the promise of hope and change that you wanted for you and your family? Newt can deliver, and Obama would be forced to see his record front and center on the minds of the American people.

Sounds like Newt is making an appeal to the 99%. He will have to explain how he intends to help them by protecting the 1%

If you think about it rationally, why can't a Shakedown of the 1% be expanded to the 99%? If Anyone is deprived of Property Rights, how are the rest of us not? Who is to say where the line is drawn and redrawn, and redrawn, again and again? Either We protect Property Rights without Discrimination, or we fond ourselves on the wrong side of Principle.
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Here you go idiot:

Obama kept Law Review balanced - Jeffrey Ressner and Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

If you want to read the actual articles, your probably going to have to go back in time. Or get access to some place i dont have.

You can't find any articles?
But they were so brilliant, right?

Are you trying to claim that Obama is unintelligent, or what?

Looking for proof of his brilliance. Have you seen any?
 
There is evidence that governments chronically underestimate health-care program costs. A report released over the summer by Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) argues that “health care appears to be an area with great room for overly optimistic assumptions regarding” changes in the behavior of patients and providers, the impact of technology, future health cost inflation and the likely success of cost controls.

The report cites numerous instances of faulty health-care estimates from Medicare and Medicaid, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the Massachusetts universal-coverage plan and the United Kingdom’s National Health Service.

For example, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the original Medicare hospital insurance program would cost $9 billion annually by 1990. Actual spending that year was $67 billion.

The same committee predicted in 1967 that the total Medicare program would cost $12 billion in 1990. Actual spending was $110 billion.

In the case of Medicaid DSH — a program that reimburses states for payments to hospitals that treat Medicaid and uninsured patients — CBO estimated in 1987 that payments would amount to less than $1 billion in 1992. The actual cost that year was $17 billion.

Congressional Budget Office consistently wrong on health-care estimates | The Daily Caller

Do you think Newt will win the Presidential election of 2012?

Only if he's running against Obama.

Thank you. Your lack of political knowledge has been confirmed. no further interaction is needed.
 
Looking for proof of his brilliance. Have you seen any?

Yes, in his speeches, his debate performances, his accomplishments.

Reading off a screen doesn't prove brilliance.
What accomplishments?

In the debate performances, there were no teleprompters.

I'm sure you're familiar with his academic achievements and work achievements.

I'm sure you've heard his speeches. This one is a masterpiece:

Text of Obama’s Speech: A More Perfect Union - Washington Wire - WSJ
 
Because, WT, the country would be far more screwed up if the GOP as it is constituted right now in national leadership were in charge. It is screwed up because it is taking years to do undo the damage of the bushies and the newts. They screwed it up that badly.


It's screwed up because Obama does a "hand-off" when there is an important issue to be resolved, while he goes across the country and on late night shows giving more appearances with speeches. What has Obama been involved in that doesn't include a microphone behind a podium? Looking for Federal Government spending cuts, the damaging gulf oil spill, job creation after the 2009 Stimulus, are some examples of areas where Obama chooses speeches over presidential involvement.
 
Obama will kick his ass and Newt will get red in the face and his temper will be on display. He is no match for the prez. None of that motley group of candidates is.
 

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