Capitalism/Neo-Conservativism/Neo-Liberalism vs. Socialism or Democratic Socialism

For the rich absolutely its wonderful! For the poor not a chance in hell.


You've graduated to 'imbecile.'

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"earned" off the backs of WORKERS making,selling or transporting the product in return for wages of an indentured servant and problem is 99.9% of jobs are like that so it does ZERO good to find a different job....




'"earned" off the backs of WORKERS making,selling or transporting the product in return for wages of an indentured servant '

I love it when Liberals use a deeply stupid argument like that....essentially stating that they know more about the decision making than the individual about whose life the decisions are being made.

I was far too kind in labeling you an idiot or an imbecile: you are a Liberal.


Watch David Mamet put you in your place:
1. Marx: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs).
a. Of course, different folks have different ‘needs,’ and who would not exaggerate his needs in order to gain more governmental largesse?

2. The devil, as usual, is in the details. The unspoken and unrecognized assumption is that there exists some mechanism that can distribute goods and services. The only such mechanism is, and must be, the totalitarian state.

a. To believe this, one must accept that there exists some equation by which the state can fairly and honestly control human exchange. Here we go: increasing taxes to increase programs to increase happiness to allow equality…all of which ends up in dictatorship.

b. There is the adolescent standing aside the street sweeper, who presents himself to government demanding compensation based on his needs, or his goodness, in equality to the physician…urging on him the courage to demand his equal pay! The Leftist has a simple prescription for the inequality of pay…you, the taxpayer, pay him more.

c. Marxism: tax the surgeon more so the good-willed other will feel momentarily better, implementing their vision of a perfect world, a Utopia.
From "The Secret Knowledge"

DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPP! Again you are trying to bullshit someone who lives in a capitalist society try this garbage on some peasant in a communist country...they will probably buy it!




Who'd the folks vote for....the capitalist or the communist?

Now...back under your rock.

I voted for Trump as well dimwit. Not because he is a capitalist but because his policies are populist in nature,he is also a huge kink in the machine and helps put MY kind of ideology forward even if he doesn't realize it. By his showing how capitalism has destroyed jobs and livelihoods it just helps people see that capitalism is the enemy not the friend.
 
I don't need to check. America has the worst economy in the western world. and the shittiest living standards. Greece is better off.

Our Canadian neighbors have a better quality of life than we do. Their citizens aren't neck deep in student loans or medical bills. The government treats them as human beings. Affordable education and health is the minimum the government can provide.
Americans are brainwashed by the cold war. Great people but can't talk to them on this subject.
Not everyone else's fault you're incapable of learning from the failures of other nations.
SOOOOOshaaaalismmmm...



buahahahaha



Perhaps you'd like to classify this:

"Obama Opens the Back Door to a Single-Payer Nationalized Health Plan"
Obama Opens the Back Door to a Single-Payer Nationalized Health Plan


Are you still laughing?
obama-feels-good-man-smug-1318294201B.jpg
 
America as many nations have a mixture of capitalism and socialism, with maybe a pinch of communism and fascism.


Shall we tell all who threw open the doors wide for Stalin and his apparatchiks?
That would be The US,England,France etc. Instead of helping Hitler crush Bolshevism they let it grow.....course if you look deeper you will see that Jews were advisers to Churchill and Roosevelt and Jews were ALSO the vast majority of communists in Russia.
 
You've graduated to 'imbecile.'

New figures from Smart Money show that only 3% of millionaires inherited their wealth. That means 97% earned their vast fortune themselves. Smart Money also reports that 80% of millionaires are extra thrifty shoppers. Many of them even clip coupons! "

Millionaires clip coupons and other secrets of the rich! on clarkhoward.com
http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/cla...s-clip-coupons-and-other-secrets-of-the/nDT4/
"earned" off the backs of WORKERS making,selling or transporting the product in return for wages of an indentured servant and problem is 99.9% of jobs are like that so it does ZERO good to find a different job....




'"earned" off the backs of WORKERS making,selling or transporting the product in return for wages of an indentured servant '

I love it when Liberals use a deeply stupid argument like that....essentially stating that they know more about the decision making than the individual about whose life the decisions are being made.

I was far too kind in labeling you an idiot or an imbecile: you are a Liberal.


Watch David Mamet put you in your place:
1. Marx: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs).
a. Of course, different folks have different ‘needs,’ and who would not exaggerate his needs in order to gain more governmental largesse?

2. The devil, as usual, is in the details. The unspoken and unrecognized assumption is that there exists some mechanism that can distribute goods and services. The only such mechanism is, and must be, the totalitarian state.

a. To believe this, one must accept that there exists some equation by which the state can fairly and honestly control human exchange. Here we go: increasing taxes to increase programs to increase happiness to allow equality…all of which ends up in dictatorship.

b. There is the adolescent standing aside the street sweeper, who presents himself to government demanding compensation based on his needs, or his goodness, in equality to the physician…urging on him the courage to demand his equal pay! The Leftist has a simple prescription for the inequality of pay…you, the taxpayer, pay him more.

c. Marxism: tax the surgeon more so the good-willed other will feel momentarily better, implementing their vision of a perfect world, a Utopia.
From "The Secret Knowledge"

DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPP! Again you are trying to bullshit someone who lives in a capitalist society try this garbage on some peasant in a communist country...they will probably buy it!




Who'd the folks vote for....the capitalist or the communist?

Now...back under your rock.

I voted for Trump as well dimwit. Not because he is a capitalist but because his policies are populist in nature,he is also a huge kink in the machine and helps put MY kind of ideology forward even if he doesn't realize it. By his showing how capitalism has destroyed jobs and livelihoods it just helps people see that capitalism is the enemy not the friend.



Spent the day bemoaning capitalism....but voted for Trump...


Pretty much makes you the dimwit, huh?

Don't ya' love when a post becomes a boomerang?
 
Our Canadian neighbors have a better quality of life than we do. Their citizens aren't neck deep in student loans or medical bills. The government treats them as human beings. Affordable education and health is the minimum the government can provide.
Americans are brainwashed by the cold war. Great people but can't talk to them on this subject.
Not everyone else's fault you're incapable of learning from the failures of other nations.
SOOOOOshaaaalismmmm...



buahahahaha



Perhaps you'd like to classify this:

"Obama Opens the Back Door to a Single-Payer Nationalized Health Plan"
Obama Opens the Back Door to a Single-Payer Nationalized Health Plan


Are you still laughing?
obama-feels-good-man-smug-1318294201B.jpg



I'll take that post as akin to

 
"earned" off the backs of WORKERS making,selling or transporting the product in return for wages of an indentured servant and problem is 99.9% of jobs are like that so it does ZERO good to find a different job....




'"earned" off the backs of WORKERS making,selling or transporting the product in return for wages of an indentured servant '

I love it when Liberals use a deeply stupid argument like that....essentially stating that they know more about the decision making than the individual about whose life the decisions are being made.

I was far too kind in labeling you an idiot or an imbecile: you are a Liberal.


Watch David Mamet put you in your place:
1. Marx: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs).
a. Of course, different folks have different ‘needs,’ and who would not exaggerate his needs in order to gain more governmental largesse?

2. The devil, as usual, is in the details. The unspoken and unrecognized assumption is that there exists some mechanism that can distribute goods and services. The only such mechanism is, and must be, the totalitarian state.

a. To believe this, one must accept that there exists some equation by which the state can fairly and honestly control human exchange. Here we go: increasing taxes to increase programs to increase happiness to allow equality…all of which ends up in dictatorship.

b. There is the adolescent standing aside the street sweeper, who presents himself to government demanding compensation based on his needs, or his goodness, in equality to the physician…urging on him the courage to demand his equal pay! The Leftist has a simple prescription for the inequality of pay…you, the taxpayer, pay him more.

c. Marxism: tax the surgeon more so the good-willed other will feel momentarily better, implementing their vision of a perfect world, a Utopia.
From "The Secret Knowledge"

DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPP! Again you are trying to bullshit someone who lives in a capitalist society try this garbage on some peasant in a communist country...they will probably buy it!




Who'd the folks vote for....the capitalist or the communist?

Now...back under your rock.

I voted for Trump as well dimwit. Not because he is a capitalist but because his policies are populist in nature,he is also a huge kink in the machine and helps put MY kind of ideology forward even if he doesn't realize it. By his showing how capitalism has destroyed jobs and livelihoods it just helps people see that capitalism is the enemy not the friend.



Spent the day bemoaning capitalism....but voted for Trump...


Pretty much makes you the dimwit, huh?

Don't ya' love when a post becomes a boomerang?

Like I said he is a battering ram that opens the gates further for my ideology. :) Oh and only a COMPLETE moron thinks Clinton as evil as she was a Communist.
 
America as many nations have a mixture of capitalism and socialism, with maybe a pinch of communism and fascism.


Shall we tell all who threw open the doors wide for Stalin and his apparatchiks?
That would be The US,England,France etc. Instead of helping Hitler crush Bolshevism they let it grow.....course if you look deeper you will see that Jews were advisers to Churchill and Roosevelt and Jews were ALSO the vast majority of communists in Russia.



Sooooo sorry.

Yet one more in an unbroken string of errors on your part.

The correct response is Franklin Delano Roosevelt....who actually promoted......promoted......spies who were exposed in his administration.



You don't know anything....do you.
 
'"earned" off the backs of WORKERS making,selling or transporting the product in return for wages of an indentured servant '

I love it when Liberals use a deeply stupid argument like that....essentially stating that they know more about the decision making than the individual about whose life the decisions are being made.

I was far too kind in labeling you an idiot or an imbecile: you are a Liberal.


Watch David Mamet put you in your place:
1. Marx: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs).
a. Of course, different folks have different ‘needs,’ and who would not exaggerate his needs in order to gain more governmental largesse?

2. The devil, as usual, is in the details. The unspoken and unrecognized assumption is that there exists some mechanism that can distribute goods and services. The only such mechanism is, and must be, the totalitarian state.

a. To believe this, one must accept that there exists some equation by which the state can fairly and honestly control human exchange. Here we go: increasing taxes to increase programs to increase happiness to allow equality…all of which ends up in dictatorship.

b. There is the adolescent standing aside the street sweeper, who presents himself to government demanding compensation based on his needs, or his goodness, in equality to the physician…urging on him the courage to demand his equal pay! The Leftist has a simple prescription for the inequality of pay…you, the taxpayer, pay him more.

c. Marxism: tax the surgeon more so the good-willed other will feel momentarily better, implementing their vision of a perfect world, a Utopia.
From "The Secret Knowledge"
DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPP! Again you are trying to bullshit someone who lives in a capitalist society try this garbage on some peasant in a communist country...they will probably buy it!



Who'd the folks vote for....the capitalist or the communist?

Now...back under your rock.
I voted for Trump as well dimwit. Not because he is a capitalist but because his policies are populist in nature,he is also a huge kink in the machine and helps put MY kind of ideology forward even if he doesn't realize it. By his showing how capitalism has destroyed jobs and livelihoods it just helps people see that capitalism is the enemy not the friend.


Spent the day bemoaning capitalism....but voted for Trump...


Pretty much makes you the dimwit, huh?

Don't ya' love when a post becomes a boomerang?
Like I said he is a battering ram that opens the gates further for my ideology. :) Oh and only a COMPLETE moron thinks Clinton as evil as she was a Communist.

"....opens the gates further for my ideology...."

Doesn't having an ideology necessitate having a functioning cerebrum????

Kinda removes you from contention, doesn't it.
 
DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPP! Again you are trying to bullshit someone who lives in a capitalist society try this garbage on some peasant in a communist country...they will probably buy it!



Who'd the folks vote for....the capitalist or the communist?

Now...back under your rock.
I voted for Trump as well dimwit. Not because he is a capitalist but because his policies are populist in nature,he is also a huge kink in the machine and helps put MY kind of ideology forward even if he doesn't realize it. By his showing how capitalism has destroyed jobs and livelihoods it just helps people see that capitalism is the enemy not the friend.


Spent the day bemoaning capitalism....but voted for Trump...


Pretty much makes you the dimwit, huh?

Don't ya' love when a post becomes a boomerang?
Like I said he is a battering ram that opens the gates further for my ideology. :) Oh and only a COMPLETE moron thinks Clinton as evil as she was a Communist.

"....opens the gates further for my ideology...."

Doesn't having an ideology necessitate having a functioning cerebrum????

Kinda removes you from contention, doesn't it.
DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP says the clown who thinks Clinton was a communist. :stupid:
 
Who'd the folks vote for....the capitalist or the communist?

Now...back under your rock.
I voted for Trump as well dimwit. Not because he is a capitalist but because his policies are populist in nature,he is also a huge kink in the machine and helps put MY kind of ideology forward even if he doesn't realize it. By his showing how capitalism has destroyed jobs and livelihoods it just helps people see that capitalism is the enemy not the friend.


Spent the day bemoaning capitalism....but voted for Trump...


Pretty much makes you the dimwit, huh?

Don't ya' love when a post becomes a boomerang?
Like I said he is a battering ram that opens the gates further for my ideology. :) Oh and only a COMPLETE moron thinks Clinton as evil as she was a Communist.

"....opens the gates further for my ideology...."

Doesn't having an ideology necessitate having a functioning cerebrum????

Kinda removes you from contention, doesn't it.
DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP says the clown who thinks Clinton was a communist. :stupid:



Clearly, you're not the sharpest knife in the silverware drawer....

Just be satisfied that you're the Michael Jordan of Chutes and Ladders.
 
For holding back the economy 8 years? No, we really don't, he's closing the gap between our nation and the next best. Even Egypt was laughing at his policies.

Egypt laughing at his policies (if that really happened) is like Adolf Hitler being upset at Denmark's human rights record.

He inherited a clusterfuck of an economy thanks to the incompetent Bush. You are now, more or less, on an even keel. As I said, kiss his feet next time you see him.
 
For holding back the economy 8 years? No, we really don't, he's closing the gap between our nation and the next best. Even Egypt was laughing at his policies.

Egypt laughing at his policies (if that really happened) is like Adolf Hitler being upset at Denmark's human rights record.

He inherited a clusterfuck of an economy thanks to the incompetent Bush. You are now, more or less, on an even keel. As I said, kiss his feet next time you see him.


And more DNC talking point.

The mortgage meltdown provenance is due to Democrats and Democrat policy.

See if you can learn from this brief lesson:

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.

2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy

3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.

4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.
It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown

That's the CliffNotes version.



Don't force me to chastise you again.
 
You know, people keep harping on that, but the fact is that the American economy is better than all of the above, and until the recent recession, prolonged by Obama's policies, America had a massive lead. The gap was closed slightly, but America is still the best. The Nordic Nations have worse economies, and are actually moving back towards Capitalism.

It's bigger than all of the above. Not better. Please post links from reputable sites. Take your time.

Sweden and Norway piss all over your economy... Iceland not so much while Denmark has some work to do List of countries by external debt - Wikipedia
 
And more DNC talking point.

The mortgage meltdown provenance is due to Democrats and Democrat policy.

See if you can learn from this brief lesson:

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.

2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy

3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.

4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.
It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown

That's the CliffNotes version.



Don't force me to chastise you again.

Nothing in there about Raygun deregulating the banks to allowing them to take advantage of Freddie and Fannie...c'mon fess up...
 
Whether he's a social democrat or not, which is debatable, is irrelevant. He's still a 100% capitalist, which was the point.
I wouldn't say that. Real capitalists don't need tariffs.

Real capitalism? You want real capitalism? go to cuba pre castro where the dictator Batista and all his cronies owned the means of production. Ultimate capitalism really works!
 
And more DNC talking point.

The mortgage meltdown provenance is due to Democrats and Democrat policy.

See if you can learn from this brief lesson:

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.

2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy

3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.

4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.
It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown

That's the CliffNotes version.



Don't force me to chastise you again.

Nothing in there about Raygun deregulating the banks to allowing them to take advantage of Freddie and Fannie...c'mon fess up...


Who created Fannie and Freddie?..c'mon fess up..


So....we can stipulate that everything I posted in the CliffNotes is correct....and you'd be a lying lame-brain to ever.......ever......blame the meltdown on Bush again?

Excellent.
 
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Who created Fannie and Freddie?..c'mon fess up..


So....we can stipulate that everything I posted in the CliffNotes is correct....and you'd be a lying lame-brain to ever.......ever......blame the meltdown on Bush again?

Excellent.

Your CliffNotes are incomplete.....So if you're gonna be dishonest, what else are you being dishonest about? Quite a bit it seems...
 
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Who created Fannie and Freddie?..c'mon fess up..


So....we can stipulate that everything I posted in the CliffNotes is correct....and you'd be a lying lame-brain to ever.......ever......blame the meltdown on Bush again?

Excellent.

Your CliffNotes are incomplete.....So if you're gonna be dishonest, what else are you being dishonest about? Quite a bit it seems...


What irks you the most is that I am never dishonest.
Nor am I ever wrong.


As you could find nothing.....not a single thing....that is incorrect in the CliffNotes, you helped prove them accurate.

Now...Who created Fannie and Freddie?..c'mon fess up..
 
Nothing in there about Raygun deregulating the banks to allowing them to take advantage of Freddie and Fannie...c'mon fess up...


Who created Fannie and Freddie?..c'mon fess up..


So....we can stipulate that everything I posted in the CliffNotes is correct....and you'd be a lying lame-brain to ever.......ever......blame the meltdown on Bush again?

Excellent.

Richard Nixon created Freddie and Fannie...and your boy Dumbya created the crisis. I thought the main blame belonged to Raygun, I was wrong...it was Dumbya. Now, you'd be a lying lame-brain to never.......ever......blame the meltdown on Bush? In fact Clinton tried to stop it. Here, I'll even bold the dates for you...

In 2000, because of a re-assessment of the housing market by HUD, anti-predatory lending rules were put into place that disallowed risky, high-cost loans from being credited toward affordable housing goals. In 2004, these rules were dropped and high-risk loans were again counted toward affordable housing goals.[22]

Fannie Mae - Wikipedia
 

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