CBO: Stimulus saved between 5 to 25 million jobs

The stimulus saved us from another Great Depression.

The only great depression is the one people feel when they know that folks like you are graduating from high school.

The stimulus didn't save squat. The White House even admits it was pretty useless.

But it is fun to see you with your fingers jammed so far in each each ear they are touching each other all the while you are singing lalalalalalalalala to your self so the facts don't matter.

The GDP growth and the jobs growth show that.

No they don't...but you know that. Things had already bottomed out before the stimulus really went into effect. But any correlation of this kind would be miserably difficult to prove. You show three graphs all the time...which mean nothing...and have no explanation for any of them.

You are a fraud.

It is you that is changing the subject.

Who can blame him ?

All you do is post claims that have no basis in fact.

A while ago you were talking up the fact that President Obama was at 46 and rising. Well, now he's at 43+, which means he dropped.

We never see that graph anymore.

The wet dream is over there inkmeister. Kiss your sorry saviour good-bye.
 
Gallup

Reducing Unemployment by Shrinking the American Workforce

Normally, this sharp drop in unemployment -- whether measured before or after seasonal adjustment -- would be very good news, a sign that the U.S. economy is improving at a faster pace than generally recognized. Instead, a careful look at the government's data shows something else -- the decline in the unemployment rate was largely due to a sharp decline in the size of the U.S. workforce.

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Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is there worst enemy

They've been shuffling numbers around to paint a rosy picture. Next you will see unemployment rise significantly and the left will be out saying that's okay because it was caused by the labor force growing and the economy is strong.

Want to bet?

You call that a response? Would be nice if you would put as much effort in to arguing real points as you do crying about perceived personal attacks against you, or is that beyond your capacity?
 
GDP grew those four years, but it was from the bottom of the great depression and unemployment was still roughly 20%.

Unemployment fell from 25% (using modern calculations) to 16.5%, and we experienced the most rapid growth on record. In other words, unemployment fell by a 1/3rd or 9 points as part of the a record expansion....

and conservatives interpret that as "prolonging the Depression". No wonder they are so confused about the last 6 quarters of growth.

We slipped back into contraction in 1937 when the artificial stimulus dissipated. It wasn't until the onset of World War 2 that the Depression was over.
The US economy did not recover from the Great Depression until AFTER WWII was completed.
 
You just can't stand that our economy is improving.

The next year is going to be very tough for you.

That is simply stupid.

Most everyone wants improvement.

Next year is going to be tough on a lot of people who don't have jobs.

Wake up and smell the sea water octocrissy.

You are a fraud.
 
They've been shuffling numbers around to paint a rosy picture. Next you will see unemployment rise significantly and the left will be out saying that's okay because it was caused by the labor force growing and the economy is strong.

Want to bet?

You call that a response? Would be nice if you would put as much effort in to arguing real points as you do crying about perceived personal attacks against you, or is that beyond your capacity?

He isn't worth it.

It's like the contrarian who stands in a snowstorm with six inches on his head saying the sun is out.

His job ins't to debate. He needs to justify his exhuberance and that is all he is trying to do.
 
Unemployment fell from 25% (using modern calculations) to 16.5%, and we experienced the most rapid growth on record. In other words, unemployment fell by a 1/3rd or 9 points as part of the a record expansion....

and conservatives interpret that as "prolonging the Depression". No wonder they are so confused about the last 6 quarters of growth.

We slipped back into contraction in 1937 when the artificial stimulus dissipated. It wasn't until the onset of World War 2 that the Depression was over.
The US economy did not recover from the Great Depression until AFTER WWII was completed.

On a self-sustaining basis you are correct, I would even say the early 50's.
 
The stimulus stopped the deflationary spiral and created growth.

Yes, I heard that someone was putting this in fortune cookies. That is about the only place you'll hear anyone make that kind of claim. That or in the astrology section of the National Enquirer.
 
If worked just like it was planned
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The graph above shows the incompetence of the Obama Administration’s economic policies. The dark blue line is where the Obama Administration promised we would be, thanks to its massive stimulus package. The gray line is where they said we would be without the stimulus package. The red dots show where we have been—a deeply disconcerting reality.


The Left was always bad with history
To be fair, you can't blame
The Left has so many failures that they want to forget
 
GDP has been growing since 2009.
The stock market has doubled since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
Americans paid off $1 trillion dollars of personal debt in the last few years.
We are leaving Iraq, which will save us billions.
We are leaving Afghanistan in 2014, which will save us billions.
Auto sales are up 13.9%,
Pending home sales are up 10%,
Retail sales are up 16%
And unemployment is down.

The economy is getting better and better.

Too bad you can't handle the truth.

The stock market has doubled since 2009.

No it hasn't.

Americans paid off $1 trillion dollars of personal debt in the last few years.

At least you stopped claiming this occurred over the last year.

And unemployment is down.

Still above the level when he took office.
Still above the 8% we were promised it would remain below, if only the stimulus passed.

The economy is getting better and better.

Not enough to save your Zero.

Stock market ....6443.27 on March 6, 2009, high for 2011 is 12,876.

It has doubled since 2009.

Unemployment was over 10% in 2009, it's now down to 8.6%

It has gone down.

Why are you lying?

Stock market ....6443.27 on March 6, 2009, high for 2011 is 12,876.

He didn't take office on March 6, 2009. It was 8077 when he took office. It's now 12019.
Up less than 50%.
Unemployment was over 10% in 2009, it's now down to 8.6%
Down to 8.6%? They said it wouldn't go over 8%, if the stimulus was passed.
Why are you so bad at math?
Are you lying or just stupid?
 
Unemployment fell from 25% (using modern calculations) to 16.5%, and we experienced the most rapid growth on record. In other words, unemployment fell by a 1/3rd or 9 points as part of the a record expansion....

and conservatives interpret that as "prolonging the Depression". No wonder they are so confused about the last 6 quarters of growth.

We slipped back into contraction in 1937 when the artificial stimulus dissipated. It wasn't until the onset of World War 2 that the Depression was over.
The US economy did not recover from the Great Depression until AFTER WWII was completed.

I guess that's the answer then... we need to start WWIII and destroy all of our competition so we can thrive again.... right? Oh...wait.... that would be wrong, wouldn't it?

Ok, how about this... we end our affiliation with COMMUNIST CHINA and all the rest of the slave labor Countries across the globe, bring the jobs back here, and start paying real wages again...so that people can afford to buy gadgets without going into debt, pay their brand new cars off in two or three years instead of 5-7, and pay their mortgages in 10-15 instead of 25-30.

Oh... wait... that would cut into the massive profits of the Traitorous American Conglomerate and might make the obscenely rich merely very wealthy. Oh wait... they EARNED that money by fucking over the American workforce, didn't they? DIDN'T THEY????
 
The stock market has doubled since 2009.

No it hasn't.

Americans paid off $1 trillion dollars of personal debt in the last few years.

At least you stopped claiming this occurred over the last year.

And unemployment is down.

Still above the level when he took office.
Still above the 8% we were promised it would remain below, if only the stimulus passed.

The economy is getting better and better.

Not enough to save your Zero.

Stock market ....6443.27 on March 6, 2009, high for 2011 is 12,876.

It has doubled since 2009.

Unemployment was over 10% in 2009, it's now down to 8.6%

It has gone down.

Why are you lying?

Stock market ....6443.27 on March 6, 2009, high for 2011 is 12,876.

He didn't take office on March 6, 2009. It was 8077 when he took office. It's now 12019.
Up less than 50%.
Unemployment was over 10% in 2009, it's now down to 8.6%
Down to 8.6%? They said it wouldn't go over 8%, if the stimulus was passed.
Why are you so bad at math?
Are you lying or just stupid?


Math and History

S&P Downgrades US Credit Rating to AA-Plus under Papa Obama
downgraded for the first time in a century.


Can you really blame the Left
Truth is their worst enemy
 
The stock market has doubled since 2009.

No it hasn't.

Americans paid off $1 trillion dollars of personal debt in the last few years.

At least you stopped claiming this occurred over the last year.

And unemployment is down.

Still above the level when he took office.
Still above the 8% we were promised it would remain below, if only the stimulus passed.

The economy is getting better and better.

Not enough to save your Zero.

Stock market ....6443.27 on March 6, 2009, high for 2011 is 12,876.

It has doubled since 2009.

Unemployment was over 10% in 2009, it's now down to 8.6%

It has gone down.

Why are you lying?

Stock market ....6443.27 on March 6, 2009, high for 2011 is 12,876.

He didn't take office on March 6, 2009. It was 8077 when he took office. It's now 12019.
Up less than 50%.
Unemployment was over 10% in 2009, it's now down to 8.6%
Down to 8.6%? They said it wouldn't go over 8%, if the stimulus was passed.
Why are you so bad at math?
Are you lying or just stupid?
I refuse to allow them even that.
The progressives have been excoriating "Wall Street" as the root of all evil. Suddenly they are on the roof tops screaming how great Wall Street is.
It's the height or arrogance, use of the double standard and hypocrisy.
The DJIA used to be THE indicator of the economic health of the nation. No longer.
The financial markets are so out of touch, so out of whack with the true economic conditions, it no longer matters.
During each trading MINUTE there are literally billions of dollars worth of stocks bought and then sold the next minute. There is actually little investment among traders. It's a gigantic gambling casino. Heck, I know two people who sit at home day trading penny stocks. Buying and selling hundreds of thousands of shares of these companies which have stock prices below or right around one dollar per share. At those prices a 5 cent move can generate a sell order and a profit of 5% is made. In a few minutes.
Or the buy can be a "short"..At the NYSE, stocks are traded much the same way. Except the amounts of shares and the funds boggles the mind.

At one time, traders actually took possession of actual stock certificates. They bought something tangible. The process was much slower. I used to work for a stock transfer company. There actual human beings that handled stock certificates and bearer bonds. Lots of separating and stapling.
It's all a smokescreen. These people buy and sell billions of dollars woth of stock like it was nothing. At the end of the day it all means nothing. The news media reports market moves like it were a big deal. It isn't. The markets are so volatile they are borderline out of control.
 
we slipped back into contraction in 1937 when the artificial stimulus dissipated. It wasn't until the onset of world war 2 that the depression was over.
the us economy did not recover from the great depression until after wwii was completed.

i guess that's the answer then... We need to start wwiii and destroy all of our competition so we can thrive again.... Right? Oh...wait.... That would be wrong, wouldn't it?

Ok, how about this... We end our affiliation with communist china and all the rest of the slave labor countries across the globe, bring the jobs back here, and start paying real wages again...so that people can afford to buy gadgets without going into debt, pay their brand new cars off in two or three years instead of 5-7, and pay their mortgages in 10-15 instead of 25-30.

Oh... Wait... That would cut into the massive profits of the traitorous american conglomerate and might make the obscenely rich merely very wealthy. Oh wait... They earned that money by fucking over the american workforce, didn't they? Didn't they????
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
 
the us economy did not recover from the great depression until after wwii was completed.

i guess that's the answer then... We need to start wwiii and destroy all of our competition so we can thrive again.... Right? Oh...wait.... That would be wrong, wouldn't it?

Ok, how about this... We end our affiliation with communist china and all the rest of the slave labor countries across the globe, bring the jobs back here, and start paying real wages again...so that people can afford to buy gadgets without going into debt, pay their brand new cars off in two or three years instead of 5-7, and pay their mortgages in 10-15 instead of 25-30.

Oh... Wait... That would cut into the massive profits of the traitorous american conglomerate and might make the obscenely rich merely very wealthy. Oh wait... They earned that money by fucking over the american workforce, didn't they? Didn't they????
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

A bump for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Liberals hate liberty.

The stimulus didn't save anyone anything.

If they had not done it, it would have saved us the trouble of educating morons on the left as to what it means to not worship the clown you got elected to the WH.
 

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