CDC: Only 50,000 Died from Covid Only, Not 836,000

[pknopp]

The argument that they would have lived, but for the covid is not a valid argument as every situation is unique and a blanket assessment is the playground of folly.

Which does nothing to dispute many died only after contracting Covid.

If The CDC and the medical community had not mishandled this pandemic, we would have the breakdown of just how threatening this virus is.

for many it's been life threatening.

 

[jknowgood]

No, the suicide killed you. You would be alive without it. Just as the person with diabetes would still be alive if they hadn't contacted covid.

People who committed suicide with covid were counted as dying of covid.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Which does nothing to dispute many died only after contracting Covid.



for many it's been life threatening.

Like motorcyclists plowed into by a semi. They only died after contracting the ChiCom flu.

 

[jknowgood]

I know I lost it when he they want the truth. Lol!

 

[Couchpotato]

No, the suicide killed you. You would be alive without it. Just as the person with diabetes would still be alive if they hadn't contacted covid.

Sure, but they had Diabetes, were likely obese, and 3-4 other things that were killing them. So....

 

[pknopp]

People who committed suicide with covid were counted as dying of covid.

Maybe so, but if so those numbers would be extremely low and it does nothing to counter my point.

 

[pknopp]

Sure, but they had Diabetes, were likely obese, and 3-4 other things that were killing them. So....

So it was the covid that finished them off.

 

[iceberg]

Is it really misleading people? Did the Covid not end up being the reason they died?

would they have died by covid alone?

doesn't sound like it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Maybe so, but if so those numbers would be extremely low and it does nothing to counter my point.

Thousands - tens of thousands- committed suicide.

 

[pknopp]

would they have died by covid alone?

doesn't sound like it.

Perhaps not.

 

[colfax_m]

Sure, but they had Diabetes, were likely obese, and 3-4 other things that were killing them. So....

Does diabetes cause ARDS?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Perhaps not.

You would find it funny tens of thousands committed suicide.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Maybe so, but if so those numbers would be extremely low and it does nothing to counter my point.

Sweden had zero shutdowns and zero mask required.
They told their people to be cautious.

Better results than the states with draconian crackdowns.

 

[task0778]

Funny how the narrative changes when a democrat is in the WH.

 

[pknopp]

Sweden had zero shutdowns and zero mask required.
They told their people to be cautious.

Better results than the states with draconian crackdowns.

Not what is being discussed.

 

[Darkwind]

It’s not a problem for people who aren’t paranoid and delusional.

It is very much a problem when your government lies to you and destroys your livelihood, closes your business, and used threats of prosecution and rhetoric like, "traitor".

I realize that there are those who would believe anything their government will tell them, as long as that government is run by their party, but the truth of the matter is, they continue to destroy our economy on the basis of these half-truths an outright lies.

Just last week, the chief mismanager of the covid response was saying that kids are over-reported for covid.

How can anyone with any integrity not look at the reporting numbers of current cases and not know that they are, 'over-reported cases?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Not what is being discussed.

OP is about the lies and insanity of government shutdowns.

 

[Couchpotato]

So it was the covid that finished them off.

Maybe. We dont have any idea do we? About 40k people die every month of obesity and it's associated health problems typically. That has seen a drastic drop since COVID came on the scene. I dont think people have suddenly got less fat and unhealthy because they were locked up in their house for a year... That's not to say that COVID didnt kill people or wasn't the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back as they say but really if you're over 75 and have 4+ things besides being over 75 that are health issues how do you really determine what killed you? That's the vast majority of the deaths in the US. Old people with a bunch of health problems.

 

[pknopp]

OP is about the lies and insanity of government shutdowns.

Partially argued with lies.

 

[Darkwind]

Which does nothing to dispute many died only after contracting Covid.



for many it's been life threatening.

Many died after contracting it. It cannot be said that they died because of it. Logic dictates that a deeper dive into the causation of ALL OF THOSE deaths be done.

But the government is using those unreliable numbers to foment more and more fear and destruction of liberty.