Cheating on your Lover

[Sherry]

You believe it's the same? No difference?

Consider the porn industry. How many video makers and magazines and websites thrive on selling images of naked girls to men? How many on selling pics of naked men to women?

The porn industry and how it makes money is not really a very good indicator of whether women have trouble controlling lust. Do you think porn is the only outlet for sexual frustration?

so you are saying that women may do other things as a result of their hard wired lust ?

There is porn in pics and porn in words.

 

[dilloduck]

TMI about your sex life, Amanda.

No no no....keep going....


Need to borrow my camera?

seriously---there is no such thing as TMI as long as it's honest.

 

[dilloduck]

The porn industry and how it makes money is not really a very good indicator of whether women have trouble controlling lust. Do you think porn is the only outlet for sexual frustration?

so you are saying that women may do other things as a result of their hard wired lust ?

There is porn in pics and porn in words.

Is that a yes ?

 

[Sherry]

so you are saying that women may do other things as a result of their hard wired lust ?

There is porn in pics and porn in words.

Is that a yes ?

Yes.

 

[dilloduck]

There is porn in pics and porn in words.

Is that a yes ?

Yes.

so women just think men should satisfy their lust the same way women do and it is just evil if they don't ?

 

[Anguille]

i am always amused at people who value sexuality in thier relationship more than the finer thing of the relationship...or perhaps i should say forced fidelity...cause that is what it is...its human nature to have more than one sexual partner....mongonomy....is forced....by religion etc...

my motto...if i dont know about it...i dont care....he goes out of town....he can do whatever he wants...as long as he is not stupid and flaunts it...he has had a vas for 28 years....and never brought home any diseases..etc..

i, myself, love a good trip out of town on occasion

You pagans sure have more fun.

 

[Anguille]

i am always amused at people who value sexuality in thier relationship more than the finer thing of the relationship...or perhaps i should say forced fidelity...cause that is what it is...its human nature to have more than one sexual partner....mongonomy....is forced....by religion etc...

my motto...if i dont know about it...i dont care....he goes out of town....he can do whatever he wants...as long as he is not stupid and flaunts it...he has had a vas for 28 years....and never brought home any diseases..etc..

i, myself, love a good trip out of town on occasion

That's up to you, and if it works for you that's fine. It's just that some people aren't as able to separate the sexuality from what you call the finer things. You're right about fidelity being forced though, it should never be an ultimatum. But if it matters to me I doubt I'd be happy long term with somebody who wasn't willing to make that choice.

I think the concept of having one sexual partner is basically sound but I'm certainly not going to be devasted if a partner "strays" when the realtionship is solid in other areas. It's no different that a partner agreeing to stay within a budget and then spending to much one day. It happens. Expecting people to be perfect is a sure fire way to be disappointed.

True

 

[Sherry]

Is that a yes ?

Yes.

so women just think men should satisfy their lust the same way women do and it is just evil if they don't ?

Are we just talking about porn?? If so, then whatever works for the individual, or it wouldn't be very satisfying. I don't think porn and/or masturbating is cheating.

 

[dilloduck]

Yes.

so women just think men should satisfy their lust the same way women do and it is just evil if they don't ?

Are we just talking about porn?? If so, then whatever works for the individual, or it wouldn't be very satisfying. I don't think porn and/or masturbating is cheating.

good thing cuz you sure post a lot of naughty looking food.

 

[Anguille]

You believe it's the same? No difference?

Consider the porn industry. How many video makers and magazines and websites thrive on selling images of naked girls to men? How many on selling pics of naked men to women?

The porn industry and how it makes money is not really a very good indicator of whether women have trouble controlling lust. Do you think porn is the only outlet for sexual frustration?

so you are saying that women may do other things as a result of their hard wired lust ?

I'm saying that the porn industry is geared more towards providing a product that men will buy. Because men have more money than women and because it's more socially accepted for men to indulge in porn. Porn doesn't do much for me. Not that I've given it much opportunity. My real life and my imagination pretty much give me what I need to feel satisfied.

 

[goldcatt]

Don't be too envious---unfortunately our emotions kick in after the fact and guilt/shame sucks.

you have no shame

We like to give that impression

Contrary to some of what you seem to be getting from my posts I don't think people have to be perfect. And while I'd certainly want a man who made a commitment to keep it, being imperfect is nothing to live in shame over. Like every other part of life it's something to learn from, and maybe fix or maybe move on depending on the situation and the people involved. But shame solves nothing.

 

[dilloduck]

you have no shame

We like to give that impression

Contrary to some of what you seem to be getting from my posts I don't think people have to be perfect. And while I'd certainly want a man who made a commitment to keep it, being imperfect is nothing to live in shame over. Like every other part of life it's something to learn from, and maybe fix or maybe move on depending on the situation and the people involved. But shame solves nothing.

Ever know a woman who just set out to get laid some weekend ? If so--did she feel shame afterwards or jsut accept it as a natural part of beign a woman ?

 

[Sherry]

The porn industry and how it makes money is not really a very good indicator of whether women have trouble controlling lust. Do you think porn is the only outlet for sexual frustration?

so you are saying that women may do other things as a result of their hard wired lust ?

I'm saying that the porn industry is geared more towards providing a product that men will buy. Because men have more money than women and because it's more socially accepted for men to indulge in porn. Porn doesn't do much for me. Not that I've given it much opportunity. My real life and my imagination pretty much give me what I need to feel satisfied.

I disagree with the money aspect. Some women get pleasure from spending hundreds of dollars on a freakin' purse.

 

[Sherry]

We like to give that impression

Contrary to some of what you seem to be getting from my posts I don't think people have to be perfect. And while I'd certainly want a man who made a commitment to keep it, being imperfect is nothing to live in shame over. Like every other part of life it's something to learn from, and maybe fix or maybe move on depending on the situation and the people involved. But shame solves nothing.

Ever know a woman who just set out to get laid some weekend ? If so--did she feel shame afterwards or jsut accept it as a natural part of beign a woman ?

Again, I envy men.

 

[goldcatt]

We like to give that impression

Contrary to some of what you seem to be getting from my posts I don't think people have to be perfect. And while I'd certainly want a man who made a commitment to keep it, being imperfect is nothing to live in shame over. Like every other part of life it's something to learn from, and maybe fix or maybe move on depending on the situation and the people involved. But shame solves nothing.

Ever know a woman who just set out to get laid some weekend ? If so--did she feel shame afterwards or jsut accept it as a natural part of beign a woman ?

Of course. Hell, I've done it myself. And if I were single, there's sure as hell no shame in it. If I were in a relationship where there was no expectation of fidelity, there's no shame in it. If I were in a committed relationship and went out to just get laid? I don't think I'd be ashamed of wanting sex, but I probably would feel guilty as hell for breaking my word and ashamed of hurting my partner, of course. But to live in guilt and shame forever? Why?

 

[LuckyDan]

What makes you think it's less difficult for women to battle lust? How do you think we are able to control it and men are not?

You believe it's the same? No difference?

Consider the porn industry. How many video makers and magazines and websites thrive on selling images of naked girls to men? How many on selling pics of naked men to women?

The porn industry and how it makes money is not really a very good indicator of whether women have trouble controlling lust. Do you think porn is the only outlet for sexual frustration?

No, I don't. If it were, we wouldn't be talking about infidelity.

My point about the porn is that most men find it to be the most readily available means of relieving frustration, or more appropriately, finding some gratification, because it gets right to the point - sex.

If women had just as difficult a time with lust as men do, it seems they would seek the same directly sexual outlet.

By contrast, the romance novel market is pretty big - has been for years. Who buys them?

 

[dilloduck]

so you are saying that women may do other things as a result of their hard wired lust ?

I'm saying that the porn industry is geared more towards providing a product that men will buy. Because men have more money than women and because it's more socially accepted for men to indulge in porn. Porn doesn't do much for me. Not that I've given it much opportunity. My real life and my imagination pretty much give me what I need to feel satisfied.

I disagree with the money aspect. Some women get pleasure from spending hundreds of dollars on a freakin' purse.

orgasmic shopping---suddenly everything is clear

 

[Anguille]

Question for dilloduck : Have you shared my toothbrush with anyone else?

that is just flat nasty

It was you, wasn't it, that he shared my toothbrush with.

I knew just it!

 

[goldcatt]

You believe it's the same? No difference?

Consider the porn industry. How many video makers and magazines and websites thrive on selling images of naked girls to men? How many on selling pics of naked men to women?

The porn industry and how it makes money is not really a very good indicator of whether women have trouble controlling lust. Do you think porn is the only outlet for sexual frustration?

No, I don't. If it were, we wouldn't be talking about infidelity.

My point about the porn is that most men find it to be the most readily available means of relieving frustration, or more appropriately, finding some gratification, because it gets right to the point - sex.

If women had just as difficult a time with lust as men do, it seems they would seek the same directly sexual outlet.

By contrast, the romance novel market is pretty big - has been for years. Who buys them?

Sherry said it, porn doesn't have to be pictures.

 

[mudwhistle]

Contrary to some of what you seem to be getting from my posts I don't think people have to be perfect. And while I'd certainly want a man who made a commitment to keep it, being imperfect is nothing to live in shame over. Like every other part of life it's something to learn from, and maybe fix or maybe move on depending on the situation and the people involved. But shame solves nothing.

Ever know a woman who just set out to get laid some weekend ? If so--did she feel shame afterwards or jsut accept it as a natural part of beign a woman ?

Again, I envy men.

I'm sure men feel the same guilt as women do.